5-Star Featured Crystal Change Discussion Thread

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  • Titan_A97Titan_A97 Member Posts: 179
    If I had to sum this change up in one sentence: If it ain't broken, it don't need fixin'.

    The featured crystal now is good the way it is. Players seem pretty content with it; satisfied you might say. Sure there may have been cases were an unlucky Youtuber or player goes 0/5, 0/11 and so on but they never blamed the crystal itself. They blamed RNG, luck, chance, fortune, whatever you want to call it. Not the crystal itself. I don't really recall anyone calling for a huge overhaul to the current featured crystal (besides a few guys here and there maybe) and so by deduction, it reveals an important piece of information:

    It tells you that most, not all, most, players are OK with the current status of the featured crystal and don't feel the need for any change.

    However, I'd like to admit that I've never personally purchased the 15,000 shard Featured Crystal (as my luck is absolutely abominable and I'd rather not test it) so you are welcome to dismiss my opinion as stupid, uneducated or lacking evidence and that's completely fair and fine by me. Although, I'd like to add that changes to the game are required for it to stay healthy and fresh. However, change the game where needs to be changed like subpar champions and bug fixing; don't change the game solely because you can, want and/ or have the power to. Put the needs in front of the wants and guaranteed you'll have happy customers and an even happier player base! :smiley:
  • BadroseBadrose Member Posts: 779 ★★★
    Can't believe people get trolled by the king of trolls in every thread. STOP IT! IGNORE HIM!
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,480 ★★★★★
    RedRooster wrote: »
    Maybe so but I am VERY OFFENDED at the personal attack lmao

    That wasn't a personal attack. It means the comment was a spin on the subject.

    Funny, it's basically what I asked you to do and I was very explicit asking for a straightforward answer. I gave you the opportunity multiple times.

    I answered your question. You asked if I thought it was better. I said better depends on the perspective. I said it was a viable option and that I understand the reasons. Better in what sense? Better for people trying to get a new Champ, or better than the current system? If the answer you're looking for is overall better, then that would ultimately be a yes. At least on paper. We have yet to see it circulated. The distinction is important because what is best for the state of the Crystals isn't necessarily what people want. I've given you replies multiple times now. I respond in the way I think. I cannot and will not be interviewed 20/20-style.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    There is no point talking to Gw. He has said in the past that someone on act 2 has just as valid an opinion as I (someone on act 5) do when we’re talking about act 5.
  • CuteshelfCuteshelf Member Posts: 747 ★★★
    There is no point talking to Gw. He has said in the past that someone on act 2 has just as valid an opinion as I (someone on act 5) do when we’re talking about act 5.

    Just ignore him. I did... feels so much better now, he even showed me how to do it earlier in this thread.
  • LocoMotivesLocoMotives Member Posts: 1,200 ★★★
    Cute, another thread that players keep talking in for weeks while Kabam keeps it contained to a single thread to make it easier to ignore.

    Decision is made fellas, they didn’t like us having so much of a chance to dictate our roster as they continue to increase 5* shard output.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Cute, another thread that players keep talking in for weeks while Kabam keeps it contained to a single thread to make it easier to ignore.

    Decision is made fellas, they didn’t like us having so much of a chance to dictate our roster as they continue to increase 5* shard output.

    Well firstly, most of this thread is “someone” crying victim. And secondly, the decision isn’t necessarily made yet, like with those arena changes if people protest enough then kabam could change their mind. I don’t think they will but there’s a chance
  • Mmx1991Mmx1991 Member Posts: 674 ★★★★
    The new feature crystal wouldn't be so bad if 5* arenas were coming very soon and the supply of 5* shards was greatly increased.

    By itself this crystal is very bad for us. We need to know what else in the works that can justify these new changes.
  • Mmx1991Mmx1991 Member Posts: 674 ★★★★
    ^u'll need more than twice that to maybe get the feature u want
  • Dr_ARCHerDr_ARCHer Member Posts: 127
    Mets17 wrote: »
    So is it worth it 2 open my 5* crystals in Feb or wait later on?s08dn4wzrq4x.png

    Question is, do you want 15 **** champs or 10 **** champs? Ok, 15 **** champs or 9 **** champs and 1 Blade?

    😊
  • Ja1970Ja1970 Member Posts: 114
    Very good changes, this will bring balance to the game, i am personally looking forward to this. And yes i have pulled god tier 5* champions, and recognize the difference it makes to a players progression in this game
  • tutyimutyitutyimutyi Member Posts: 326
    This new feautured 5* crystal is not featured at all.here is the future,waste of units/money on fgmc and gmc crystals.i feel so bad,when i watch this video.poor Lagacy :(

  • tutyimutyitutyimutyi Member Posts: 326
    Ja1970 wrote: »
    Very good changes, this will bring balance to the game, i am personally looking forward to this. And yes i have pulled god tier 5* champions, and recognize the difference it makes to a players progression in this game

    is that a balance,when you can't use the t2 alpha,because you are full of useless 5* heroes,like antman and spidergwen and you have to suffer with 4* heroes in aq,aw,act 5 and in the uncollected event quest?i do not think so.
  • CuteshelfCuteshelf Member Posts: 747 ★★★
    edited January 2018
    Will a featured 6* crystal come out soon then?

    If 5* are the new 4* etc...
  • SignumSignum Member Posts: 133
    I would have too look at the hero pool, but I do think this may have the possibility of being a good change, or a step in the right direction. There is a fair chance to get any of the 24 heros and you would know which 24 heros they are. The current featured has an assumed 20% and we really aren't too sure what else is in there but I have seen some **** champs pulled from those. I personally prefer the second crystal, even though I have finished act 5 and have 3 gems, I feel like I won't cringe as much next time I open a featured 5 star crystal because I know exactly what's in there and what my odds are. Kudos to apple.
  • SpiritOfVengeanceSpiritOfVengeance Member Posts: 2,353 ★★★★
    edited January 2018
    Get what you mean but the way the 18 basics were put in was kinda bad I mean look how many us don't like most of the basics we know who is the most effective so why on earth do they act like they know what's best for us? Anyway this clearly won't be changed since money comes first so I personally am just gonna just my shards for the second pool hoping it is better.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,480 ★★★★★
    It's not about the most effective at all. They're looking at the data and avoiding the least effective based on what they're finding. Which means anything else can be included. People might have an opinion one way or another, but the data shows what it shows.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    It's not about the most effective at all. They're looking at the data and avoiding the least effective based on what they're finding. Which means anything else can be included. People might have an opinion one way or another, but the data shows what it shows.

    And data can be used to lie, meaning that it shows nothing significant
  • HuonuoHuonuo Member Posts: 42
    All these bickering are way off topic from the actual matter, let's not to help burying our oppositions to this changes. There is always going to be some people who think they know what's in Kabam's mind and argue against the majority for the sake of arguing. Let's focus, it's clear that the majority have voiced their opposition to the change, let's make sure that Kabam sees this as representation of the wisdom of the crowd and hope to force them to revisit the matter.

    #focus #kabamisthebadguy #newfeaturecrystalsucks
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,480 ★★★★★
    It's not about the most effective at all. They're looking at the data and avoiding the least effective based on what they're finding. Which means anything else can be included. People might have an opinion one way or another, but the data shows what it shows.

    And data can be used to lie, meaning that it shows nothing significant

    Data doesn't lie. It shows the actual usage of the Champs. When examining the effectiveness of Champs, that's about as significant and impartial as it gets. There is a difference between general concensus on who is good and who is not, and the actual performance data.
    TL:DR - Just because Top Tier Players think that half the Roster sucks doesn't mean that will reflect in the data. The efficiency of a Champ is more than just one area of the game.
  • GangsterSauceGangsterSauce Member Posts: 63
    Don't worry guys. Kabam is always looking out for the players just like how Donald Trump looks out for Americans. o:)
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    It's not about the most effective at all. They're looking at the data and avoiding the least effective based on what they're finding. Which means anything else can be included. People might have an opinion one way or another, but the data shows what it shows.

    And data can be used to lie, meaning that it shows nothing significant

    Data doesn't lie. It shows the actual usage of the Champs. When examining the effectiveness of Champs, that's about as significant and impartial as it gets. There is a difference between general concensus on who is good and who is not, and the actual performance data.
    TL:DR - Just because Top Tier Players think that half the Roster sucks doesn't mean that will reflect in the data. The efficiency of a Champ is more than just one area of the game.

    I didn’t say data doesn’t lie. But it can be used to lie, for example here
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    And this is just one example, research how to lie with statistics and there’s a huge range of ways kabam could have (emphasis on could have) manipulated their data to conclude that cyclops is amongst the effective champs such as star Lord and gwenpool.

    They could have just taken easy level fights and because we don’t know the parameters of their data collection, they will conclude that cyclops is effective because he wins 100% of his fights! Isn’t that great?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,480 ★★★★★
    Don't worry guys. Kabam is always looking out for the players just like how Donald Trump looks out for Americans. o:)

    Lol. Can't agree with that comparison. Kabam allows Players from all areas of the world. XD
  • HuonuoHuonuo Member Posts: 42
    Let's be real, there is no justification of the effectiveness of the 18 Basics in the proposed feature crystal except lower the chances for people to get recently release champs. They are there to lower the chances of people getting recent champs. We don't need to help Kabam justify why there are there. I can use Cyclops effectively, but that doesn't mean I want to spend 50% more to get him. The game is progress forward with 6* coming, we should have more ways to get 5* champs, feature and basics a like. This change along is reducing our options from 2 to 1 if there is no other changes in the works. This is not progression..
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,480 ★★★★★
    It's not about the most effective at all. They're looking at the data and avoiding the least effective based on what they're finding. Which means anything else can be included. People might have an opinion one way or another, but the data shows what it shows.

    And data can be used to lie, meaning that it shows nothing significant

    Data doesn't lie. It shows the actual usage of the Champs. When examining the effectiveness of Champs, that's about as significant and impartial as it gets. There is a difference between general concensus on who is good and who is not, and the actual performance data.
    TL:DR - Just because Top Tier Players think that half the Roster sucks doesn't mean that will reflect in the data. The efficiency of a Champ is more than just one area of the game.

    I didn’t say data doesn’t lie. But it can be used to lie, for example here
    2a4tay2y1kzv.jpeg

    And this is just one example, research how to lie with statistics and there’s a huge range of ways kabam could have (emphasis on could have) manipulated their data to conclude that cyclops is amongst the effective champs such as star Lord and gwenpool.

    They could have just taken easy level fights and because we don’t know the parameters of their data collection, they will conclude that cyclops is effective because he wins 100% of his fights! Isn’t that great?

    Why would they do that? Let's overlook the fact that it's conspiracy. If they wanted to include the Champs they wanted, they wouldn't go through the trouble of concocting an excuse to look at "easy data".
    We don't know the specifics. However, if they're looking at all Champs available as 5*s and identifying the lowest performing, that means they're looking at all Champs, regardless of what Tier they're in. That's the part people aren't getting. Just because we personally think a particular Champ sucks doesn't mean they are useless. Has nothing to do with being suited for any particular Tier, or easy Fights. The Crystal is going to have a range of Champs that alternate. We can form whatever opinions we want on the Champs in it, but those are the Champs available. The only thing we know is that they're making an effort not to include the ones that perform poorly. Which is reasonable. We can't expect a Crystal full of "God Tier Champs".
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    It's not about the most effective at all. They're looking at the data and avoiding the least effective based on what they're finding. Which means anything else can be included. People might have an opinion one way or another, but the data shows what it shows.

    And data can be used to lie, meaning that it shows nothing significant

    Data doesn't lie. It shows the actual usage of the Champs. When examining the effectiveness of Champs, that's about as significant and impartial as it gets. There is a difference between general concensus on who is good and who is not, and the actual performance data.
    TL:DR - Just because Top Tier Players think that half the Roster sucks doesn't mean that will reflect in the data. The efficiency of a Champ is more than just one area of the game.

    I didn’t say data doesn’t lie. But it can be used to lie, for example here
    2a4tay2y1kzv.jpeg

    And this is just one example, research how to lie with statistics and there’s a huge range of ways kabam could have (emphasis on could have) manipulated their data to conclude that cyclops is amongst the effective champs such as star Lord and gwenpool.

    They could have just taken easy level fights and because we don’t know the parameters of their data collection, they will conclude that cyclops is effective because he wins 100% of his fights! Isn’t that great?

    Why would they do that? Let's overlook the fact that it's conspiracy. If they wanted to include the Champs they wanted, they wouldn't go through the trouble of concocting an excuse to look at "easy data".
    We don't know the specifics. However, if they're looking at all Champs available as 5*s and identifying the lowest performing, that means they're looking at all Champs, regardless of what Tier they're in. That's the part people aren't getting. Just because we personally think a particular Champ sucks doesn't mean they are useless. Has nothing to do with being suited for any particular Tier, or easy Fights. The Crystal is going to have a range of Champs that alternate. We can form whatever opinions we want on the Champs in it, but those are the Champs available. The only thing we know is that they're making an effort not to include the ones that perform poorly. Which is reasonable. We can't expect a Crystal full of "God Tier Champs".

    It is a fact that if people don’t have as good champions, they won’t do as well. That’s not my opinion, if you have wolverine, star Lord and blade in aq you will do much better on average than if you had Khamalha Khan, spidergwen and Luke cage (excluding beta). If kabam wanted to make more money then they would put champions like that in the pool more than the better ones.

    You’re just assuming the data was collected that way, unless I missed something. The only thing we know is that Kabam “say” they are making an effort to not include ones that perform poorly.

    I know we can’t expect a crystal full of God tier champs, but I think we should expect at least a few. This crystal literally has no god tier champs, only trash and a couple of decent champs.
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