what if your young and your sister has to log in on there phone to buy you an offer is that account sharing
It’ll be ok as long as your doing it to spend money! 😂
Seriously though, that’s technically against the rules.
In another thread Adora implied that a parent logging into an account to monitor what their children are doing is something they would not consider a violation of their terms of service, although there would be no reason for a parent to actually play the game for their child. I believe this falls into similar territory; if a parent or other adult has to log in to allow an account played by a minor to purchase something because they don't have that ability on their own, that would not be a violation of their terms either, so long as no actual game play was occurring.
I am not a Kabam spokesperson, so I can only extrapolate but that seems to be a reasonable extrapolation.
My nephew is graduating, my friend is getting married, my favorite band is going to be playing in town and my wife wants to go to Florida....all on the same day. I can do 1 of these things. That's how things work....but in the MCOC world, everyone feels they HAVE to do everything, all the time.
That's not really on Kabam, that's on the players choices, the competitive nature of people. if you lose a war, or don't finish an AQ, or miss rewards from an event or two you'll still be able to play and progress, you might even enjoy the game more if you don't stress so much on finishing all content all the time
I agree with this, you'll be affecting entire alliance systems by enforcing this. Almost 75% of the player base accounts share, and to be honest, it's not to extreme. Account sharing usually occurs when some can't play at that given moment or any other circumstance. You can't punish people for wanting to play but not being able to because they have some sort of life occurrence outside of mcoc.
Obviously they can, it's their TOS. You can argue they shouldn't, but you can also argue that 5 star AGs should cost less than 6.8 million dust nonsense and get just as far with changing anyone's minds about the subject.
lmao, that is true. Tbh, this argument could go on till kingdom come, I'm only really mentioning how its gonna affect most of the player fan base.
My nephew is graduating, my friend is getting married, my favorite band is going to be playing in town and my wife wants to go to Florida....all on the same day. I can do 1 of these things. That's how things work....but in the MCOC world, everyone feels they HAVE to do everything, all the time.
That's not really on Kabam, that's on the players choices, the competitive nature of people. if you lose a war, or don't finish an AQ, or miss rewards from an event or two you'll still be able to play and progress, you might even enjoy the game more if you don't stress so much on finishing all content all the time
How about I'm going to be gone for 1 month on a trip to the Himilayas and won't have phone access? Why kick me..i'm just a normal person on vacation....Should I borrow the Yetti's phone? You can go on and on about this... Leave your alliance during that time then. If they really want you, they will invite you back. Stop crying. It is what it is and you can't expect Kabam to figure out every scenario
Kabam....if you want to Crack down on piloted accounts fine but you have to understand a few things. You will lose players if you do not make any in game changes. People have real lives out side of this game and life comes first, always. A suggestion would be to do 15 players in 2 bgs or alliances of 40 players with 3 bgs or less paths in AW and AQ. Either accept that people want to live life and play the game or that you will be banning most of your players. Make the right choice for once
If Kabam is willing to ban players for account sharing, warning them that this course of action will cost them players seems moot.
I definitely agree that account piloting & sharing is not a fair play. But being able to access the game from different devices shouldn't be confused with that.
I have an iPad which I usually play in while m at home. But I use my smart phone to access the game when I want to play this game but m not at home. So I am scared now that if I continue using both my devices like that I will be unnecessarily banned under the pretext of sharing and piloting??
My nephew is graduating, my friend is getting married, my favorite band is going to be playing in town and my wife wants to go to Florida....all on the same day. I can do 1 of these things. That's how things work....but in the MCOC world, everyone feels they HAVE to do everything, all the time.
That's not really on Kabam, that's on the players choices, the competitive nature of people. if you lose a war, or don't finish an AQ, or miss rewards from an event or two you'll still be able to play and progress, you might even enjoy the game more if you don't stress so much on finishing all content all the time
How about I'm going to be gone for 1 month on a trip to the Himilayas and won't have phone access? Why kick me..i'm just a normal person on vacation....Should I borrow the Yetti's phone? You can go on and on about this... Leave your alliance during that time then. If they really want you, they will invite you back. Stop crying. It is what it is and you can't expect Kabam to figure out every scenario
You think its easy to just replace someone you trust with someone you know nothing about and could just leave mid event? You must have no experience as a leader then. Leaders take all the risk, good or bad. I would like you to go through what we leaders do and try to find new members that match all the characteristics you need, that kabam dictates (like prestige). Then if you do have to replace a loyal member and that member is ready to come back and you have no space, is it right to just discard the help? So long and thanks for the fish? Why should we even have to do that?
@Kabam Miike i have 3 accounts thats is my own account and i merge it in the same alliance as u said as long as we play our own account it okey so how about Alliance war season 2 i will play my 3 accts in one alliance or i will separate them or i can play them because its my own acct?
One more question @Kabam Miike
How i can prove that i play my 3 accts in one alliance i will link them in one cellphone to avoid ban
I definitely agree that account piloting & sharing is not a fair play. But being able to access the game from different devices shouldn't be confused with that.
I have an iPad which I usually play in while m at home. But I use my smart phone to access the game when I want to play this game but m not at home. So I am scared now that if I continue using both my devices like that I will be unnecessarily banned under the pretext of sharing and piloting??
@Kabam Miike I propose a strike system. Maximum penalty resulting in ban on the first offense isn't fair. The person should get a warning that continuing to do so will escalate the punishment. It is not fair that it would affect the ENTIRE alliance in points and rating. A member should be dealt with personally from Kabam. This was one of the problems with AW Season 1 as the punishment affected everyone else's effort and in doing so, driving some to give up playing altogether.
So what if someone is running an account for someone for an extended period due to real life issues and they are the only ones logging in? I know a friend in game who was gifted an account while the guy attends to real life for a while? That an issue?
Account Sharing is against our terms of service, and always has been. We understand that this might come as a shock to some players, but this is something that many players have been discussing since the beginning of Alliance Wars Season 1, if not long before. It is not fair to allow some players to break the Terms of Service, while others that are playing legitimately are at a disadvantage.
You are allowed to have more than one account, and as long as you are playing your own accounts, you do not have to worry. If you're not breaking the Terms of Service here, you shouldn't be worried.
Miike...
How about : I Have 3 accounts and playing that accounts alternately with my 2 phone devices?
are that will mean "account sharing"?
as i know, Kabam never heard and listen when we say kabam wrongly banned an account.
So what if someone is running an account for someone for an extended period due to real life issues and they are the only ones logging in? I know a friend in game who was gifted an account while the guy attends to real life for a while? That an issue?
Actually, yeah it is an issue. Why should your "friend" get to have his account progress when they aren't playing it?
What part of the words "account sharing is not allowed" is complicated?
What if you use multiple devices? how would that work? I go from tablet, to phone, to ipod, to another tablet lol....
Multiple devices and multiple accounts are allowed. You just can't play on an account that doesn't belong to you
Yes, but what I'm saying is how can they tell the difference between having multiple devices and account sharing?
We can, but we're not going to be discussing our methods.
I like that you confirm this, but I don't believe it. I think this entire threat was blind and that you can't tell the difference. I think this threat was only to appease the lower end player base that can't compete with the upper half.
Piloting, account sharing or logging on to help a friend is wrong. It may seem like nothing, but the whole point of aq/Aw is to work as a team. When you log in for someone else it removes the team aspect of it.
Piloting, account sharing or logging on to help a friend is wrong. It may seem like nothing, but the whole point of aq/Aw is to work as a team. When you log in for someone else it removes the team aspect of it.
Are you sure it's not about getting the rewards? Sure seems like it. How does it remove the team aspect of it? You are still doing it as a team. Have you been a leader before? Sure doesn't sound like it, must be nice huh?
Perhaps its because I'm in a casual alliance and below the level where people feel a need to cheat, but I don't see the advantages of account sharing. If you let others do all the challenging fights for you, how can you grow as a player? Its the challenge that makes the game fun and interesting. If you have someone else doing the fun parts for you, then why are you playing?
What if you use multiple devices? how would that work? I go from tablet, to phone, to ipod, to another tablet lol....
Multiple devices and multiple accounts are allowed. You just can't play on an account that doesn't belong to you
Yes, but what I'm saying is how can they tell the difference between having multiple devices and account sharing?
We can, but we're not going to be discussing our methods.
I like that you confirm this, but I don't believe it. I think this entire threat was blind and that you can't tell the difference. I think this threat was only to appease the lower end player base that can't compete with the upper half.
Seems to me that if a person needs someone else to move for them, they are the ones who can't compete...because, welp, they aren't actually competing, now are they
Piloting, account sharing or logging on to help a friend is wrong. It may seem like nothing, but the whole point of aq/Aw is to work as a team. When you log in for someone else it removes the team aspect of it.
Are you sure it's not about getting the rewards? Sure seems like it. How does it remove the team aspect of it? You are still doing it as a team. Have you been a leader before? Sure doesn't sound like it, must be nice huh?
I'm a leader. We don't cheat.
Sometimes we don't finish maps. Sometimes people have to work. Sometimes people can't play.
Some of us don't cheat, then come and cry about it when Kabam actually enforces a rule they have had since forever
Piloting, account sharing or logging on to help a friend is wrong. It may seem like nothing, but the whole point of aq/Aw is to work as a team. When you log in for someone else it removes the team aspect of it.
Are you sure it's not about getting the rewards? Sure seems like it. How does it remove the team aspect of it? You are still doing it as a team. Have you been a leader before? Sure doesn't sound like it, must be nice huh?
Seems like someone is annoyed about not being able to pilot anymore. It removes the team aspect because if one person is doing everything then it’s just one person with ten accounts, if it’s one person doing the majority then it’s still wrong. I’ve been a leader before, it’s still wrong to pilot. It’s against the rules, it’s against the spirit of a game. It’s wrong. Get over it.
For months, the pilots and piloted came here to shout down every post about this with "it doesn't happen" or "you don't KNOW that it happens" or launch faulty arguments based on ip addresses. They flagged, they got threads closed, then they complained about people spamming the forum.
Now after this announcement, they come here to openly challenge kabam (the owner of the servers they're logging in to and sending untold amounts of data to), saying they don't believe kabam can identify account sharing. That's a ridiculous notion. They're also crying about the duties of leadership, which they apparently see piloting as falling under that category. They try to come up with imaginary scenarios where kabam may make a mistake in identification.
It's funny that there are no more denials or challenges about this occurring in a widespread manner.
I'm glad kabam made a strong statement. I feel like they left wiggle room for themselves in that statement, and I'm not so enthused by that. But at least they made a statement. I hope there is real follow thru tho. I hope the "egregious" line is an objective one and not subjective or based on tier, etc. I guess we'll find out before too long whether it's an empty threat or a true correction to the biggest problem in the game.
And here's the deal. You don't have to pilot. You don't have to be piloted. Stomping your feet like a spoiled brat and saying "I want these rewards" doesn't mean you deserve them. Everyone here that has a problem w the post complains about time. Take whatever time you want for life. This is just a game lmao. If you can do map 5/6, finish monthly content, participate in alliance events and still have a life.... Great. If you can't, relax. Find a more laid back alliance. Don't stress. Your world isn't over
Beyond that... This is a competitive game with ranking systems based on individuals playing for themselves to accomplish goals as a team. If you aren't doing that, you're cheating honest players out of their rewards... So there's absolutely zero reason to empathize with you. I haven't heard one person sympathize with the pilot using so much of his/her time to carry you ungrateful, dead weight accounts on their backs. YOU don't have enough time to do a, b, c, d but you'll surely let Mr pilot waste his life running 5-20 accounts lmao. Toss rules and honesty out the window and your arguments still don't hold water for that reason above. Its gotta be a pain in the ass to run more than one account, much less 15. You're selfish and entitled. That's literally all there is to it. So tell me again why anyone should care about the points raised by selfish, entitled cheaters?
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It’ll be ok as long as your doing it to spend money! 😂
Seriously though, that’s technically against the rules.
In another thread Adora implied that a parent logging into an account to monitor what their children are doing is something they would not consider a violation of their terms of service, although there would be no reason for a parent to actually play the game for their child. I believe this falls into similar territory; if a parent or other adult has to log in to allow an account played by a minor to purchase something because they don't have that ability on their own, that would not be a violation of their terms either, so long as no actual game play was occurring.
I am not a Kabam spokesperson, so I can only extrapolate but that seems to be a reasonable extrapolation.
cf: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/387046/#Comment_387046
That's not really on Kabam, that's on the players choices, the competitive nature of people. if you lose a war, or don't finish an AQ, or miss rewards from an event or two you'll still be able to play and progress, you might even enjoy the game more if you don't stress so much on finishing all content all the time
lmao, that is true. Tbh, this argument could go on till kingdom come, I'm only really mentioning how its gonna affect most of the player fan base.
How about I'm going to be gone for 1 month on a trip to the Himilayas and won't have phone access? Why kick me..i'm just a normal person on vacation....Should I borrow the Yetti's phone? You can go on and on about this... Leave your alliance during that time then. If they really want you, they will invite you back. Stop crying. It is what it is and you can't expect Kabam to figure out every scenario
If Kabam is willing to ban players for account sharing, warning them that this course of action will cost them players seems moot.
I have an iPad which I usually play in while m at home. But I use my smart phone to access the game when I want to play this game but m not at home. So I am scared now that if I continue using both my devices like that I will be unnecessarily banned under the pretext of sharing and piloting??
You think its easy to just replace someone you trust with someone you know nothing about and could just leave mid event? You must have no experience as a leader then. Leaders take all the risk, good or bad. I would like you to go through what we leaders do and try to find new members that match all the characteristics you need, that kabam dictates (like prestige). Then if you do have to replace a loyal member and that member is ready to come back and you have no space, is it right to just discard the help? So long and thanks for the fish? Why should we even have to do that?
One more question @Kabam Miike
How i can prove that i play my 3 accts in one alliance i will link them in one cellphone to avoid ban
Why?
More words: It's about time. Pretty much sick of all the excuses about why people cheat.
Some of us out here don't cheat. If you have to cheat and you are sour about increased scrutiny and want to leave, bye
Miike...
How about : I Have 3 accounts and playing that accounts alternately with my 2 phone devices?
are that will mean "account sharing"?
as i know, Kabam never heard and listen when we say kabam wrongly banned an account.
Actually, yeah it is an issue. Why should your "friend" get to have his account progress when they aren't playing it?
What part of the words "account sharing is not allowed" is complicated?
These cheaters have run rampant long enough. Every one of their excuses is absolute garbage.
Don't back down.
I like that you confirm this, but I don't believe it. I think this entire threat was blind and that you can't tell the difference. I think this threat was only to appease the lower end player base that can't compete with the upper half.
Piloting, account sharing or logging on to help a friend is wrong. It may seem like nothing, but the whole point of aq/Aw is to work as a team. When you log in for someone else it removes the team aspect of it.
Are you sure it's not about getting the rewards? Sure seems like it. How does it remove the team aspect of it? You are still doing it as a team. Have you been a leader before? Sure doesn't sound like it, must be nice huh?
Seems to me that if a person needs someone else to move for them, they are the ones who can't compete...because, welp, they aren't actually competing, now are they
I'm a leader. We don't cheat.
Sometimes we don't finish maps. Sometimes people have to work. Sometimes people can't play.
Some of us don't cheat, then come and cry about it when Kabam actually enforces a rule they have had since forever
Seems like someone is annoyed about not being able to pilot anymore. It removes the team aspect because if one person is doing everything then it’s just one person with ten accounts, if it’s one person doing the majority then it’s still wrong. I’ve been a leader before, it’s still wrong to pilot. It’s against the rules, it’s against the spirit of a game. It’s wrong. Get over it.
I'm flattered,Thanks for calling me,lol.
Of course,Account sharing and "piloting" is wroooong
Now after this announcement, they come here to openly challenge kabam (the owner of the servers they're logging in to and sending untold amounts of data to), saying they don't believe kabam can identify account sharing. That's a ridiculous notion. They're also crying about the duties of leadership, which they apparently see piloting as falling under that category. They try to come up with imaginary scenarios where kabam may make a mistake in identification.
It's funny that there are no more denials or challenges about this occurring in a widespread manner.
I'm glad kabam made a strong statement. I feel like they left wiggle room for themselves in that statement, and I'm not so enthused by that. But at least they made a statement. I hope there is real follow thru tho. I hope the "egregious" line is an objective one and not subjective or based on tier, etc. I guess we'll find out before too long whether it's an empty threat or a true correction to the biggest problem in the game.
And here's the deal. You don't have to pilot. You don't have to be piloted. Stomping your feet like a spoiled brat and saying "I want these rewards" doesn't mean you deserve them. Everyone here that has a problem w the post complains about time. Take whatever time you want for life. This is just a game lmao. If you can do map 5/6, finish monthly content, participate in alliance events and still have a life.... Great. If you can't, relax. Find a more laid back alliance. Don't stress. Your world isn't over
Beyond that... This is a competitive game with ranking systems based on individuals playing for themselves to accomplish goals as a team. If you aren't doing that, you're cheating honest players out of their rewards... So there's absolutely zero reason to empathize with you. I haven't heard one person sympathize with the pilot using so much of his/her time to carry you ungrateful, dead weight accounts on their backs. YOU don't have enough time to do a, b, c, d but you'll surely let Mr pilot waste his life running 5-20 accounts lmao. Toss rules and honesty out the window and your arguments still don't hold water for that reason above. Its gotta be a pain in the ass to run more than one account, much less 15. You're selfish and entitled. That's literally all there is to it. So tell me again why anyone should care about the points raised by selfish, entitled cheaters?