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  • Chrisco66Chrisco66 Member Posts: 66 ★
    Only way it’ll change peeps is 1 $top $pending & 2 keep voicing your opinions here. They’ll notice
  • SnizzbarSnizzbar Member Posts: 2,172 ★★★★★
    TyEdge said:

    I had a word censored from my post that corresponds to the current American president. That was confusing.

    Interesting to see that after four years of horror his five-letter surname is now a four-letter swear word
  • WeeHobbit89WeeHobbit89 Member Posts: 146 ★
    Wow, so many people claiming their getting screwed by the deals. The only ones getting screwed here are the ones willing to hand all their money to kabam. Save your money for something worth it. (Former addict speaking)
  • Scopeotoe987Scopeotoe987 Member Posts: 1,554 ★★★★★
    Why has kabam not commented on all this? There is a large majority of cav / Ftp players that are rightfully upset with how things are going and so far it’s been nothing but silence...
  • Noodes_Noodes_ Member Posts: 113 ★
    BadPullsMarco said:

    Man, I just realized had I just bought the 2 offers they had for the t5cc selectors a few weeks ago, I'd be throne breaker...I remember thinking to myself that it was unfathomable that they wouldn't be in the cash offers on cyber weekend and if id hold off id get a way better deal...did not see this coming!

    Same, but I didn’t want to take the risk, so I bought those offers. Not trying to rub it in, just saying that probably nobody predicted THIS
  • Dromar_13Dromar_13 Member Posts: 56 ★
    MostWanted said:



    So You all are telling me that Kabam thinks I'm at the same level of who actually has beaten Sentinel on first chapter, right?
    I got the wrong catalysts, RNG with fragments was so bad against me, so I cannot have a r3. I'm.Breaker of thrones, but I have Cavalier Title. Nice.

    Im sure you have a 6* champ that you can take to r3, you just want the perfect champ to do it, sometimes you cant, I had to take Manthing to r3 because something told me that kabam was going to pull a fast one and I was right.
  • StevieManWonderStevieManWonder Member Posts: 5,019 ★★★★★
    Scopeotoe987 said:

    Why has kabam not commented on all this? There is a large majority of cav / Ftp players that are rightfully upset with how things are going and so far it’s been nothing but silence...

    Well, they already did. Miike said earlier that they are taking the feedback and learning from it for future deals. Beyond that, there really isn't anything left to say or do. They won't just change the deals now because that will cause a whole other sh*tstorm. If they change the deals, what about the people like myself who already bought them? Do we get new items as well and the people who buy the new deals only get the new stuff? Do the people who bought the deals already miss out on the new deals? Do they get to buy them again?
    There really isn't any good choice for Kabam, any way they do it, people will be mad. I for one would be pissed if the deals got changed now and I either didn't get the new stuff in my inbox or if they asked me to pay for the deals again since I bought the deals under the information that they would not change. If I would get sent the new stuff, people would be upset that I got to essentially double dip on some of the offers.
    The best thing to do is just leave it, unfortunately.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,520 ★★★★★
    1_ShuNeu_1 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Dr_Centino said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Dr_Centino said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Bahubali said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Bahubali said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales for Class Cats. The game balance is also something that needs to be taken into consideration.

    Gifting event says hi
    People keep bringing up Gifting, but they don't stop to consider the numbers. How many people would have hit TB with CM versus how many people are going to actually benefit from Gifting? Think.
    Did you even see the rewards for gifting event..just go look at the solo rank rewards.. Doesn't matter if I'm conqueror, UC, CV or TB.. If I spend money, I can get the best rewards in the game.. Even Hardest of the quests(Abyss 100%/Act6 100%) wont give me those rewards. Game balance and your statement
    "Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales"
    are just jokes..

    Money >>>>>>>> Skill
    120 people will get significant Rewards from Solo. 120, who will be spending tens of thousands of dollars to get it. The amount alone means they'll be earning it, but stop and think. 120 people, versus how many would have jumped to TB this weekend. I can assure you the number would have been much higher. There are always limitations to these things. Not even money can get past the game balance.
    Sir, game balance is a joke. See my post for more clarity.
    I've seen your Post. It lacks information.
    Gifting. Event. Cyber. Weekend. If you've seen these rewards and think that game balance is still in tact, you are braindead or don't play the game. Don't even get me started on beginner progression neither my guy
    I see. So you think because there are a limited amount available because of spending, game balance isn't a thing. You would be wrong. If game balance wasn't a thing, there would be no limitations on Resources. Everyone would be Thronebreaker, no one would have to wait for any Resource, no one would be able to play for free, and the Devs would work one day a week.
    Beginner progression is a) not the same as it used to be, and b) very different for someone learning to play the game and not starting an Alt. By all means, get started. Just have some substance to your conjecture.
    Game balance is totally in tact when you can spend your way to the top
    They gave t5c offers for purchase which bypasses the play wall

    You can buy cavs after cavs and get champs, iso, gold, etc
    You for the most part don’t have to play much if at all to get a bomb account

    People are mad and you aren’t gonna change that bickering
    They totally messed over a huge amount of players based on a ranked 3 6*
    That’s the issue and you really should just drop it because you aren’t helping
    Game balance has nothing to do with allowing F2P to catch up to, or go head-to-head with, spenders. There is no F2P vs. P2P. You just can't keep up with them. Nor is there a race to compete with the people already at Thronebreaker. Anyone who is well into the Title and never even batted an eyelash when it came out is not competing with people struggling to get their first R3. I think people are overestimating their position.
    Game balance changes as the situation changes. It's not even a specific number tally so much as it is keeping an overall pace for growth. Even the whaliest of whales can't change the fact that there are limits on how much you can buy. The idea that game balance is a myth is just petulant.
  • BadPullsMarcoBadPullsMarco Member Posts: 420 ★★★
    @Sbkrueb That was the best thing to come out cyber weekend.
  • 1_ShuNeu_11_ShuNeu_1 Member Posts: 375 ★★★
    GroundedWisdom said:

    1_ShuNeu_1 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Dr_Centino said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Dr_Centino said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Bahubali said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Bahubali said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales for Class Cats. The game balance is also something that needs to be taken into consideration.

    Gifting event says hi
    People keep bringing up Gifting, but they don't stop to consider the numbers. How many people would have hit TB with CM versus how many people are going to actually benefit from Gifting? Think.
    Did you even see the rewards for gifting event..just go look at the solo rank rewards.. Doesn't matter if I'm conqueror, UC, CV or TB.. If I spend money, I can get the best rewards in the game.. Even Hardest of the quests(Abyss 100%/Act6 100%) wont give me those rewards. Game balance and your statement
    "Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales"
    are just jokes..

    Money >>>>>>>> Skill
    120 people will get significant Rewards from Solo. 120, who will be spending tens of thousands of dollars to get it. The amount alone means they'll be earning it, but stop and think. 120 people, versus how many would have jumped to TB this weekend. I can assure you the number would have been much higher. There are always limitations to these things. Not even money can get past the game balance.
    Sir, game balance is a joke. See my post for more clarity.
    I've seen your Post. It lacks information.
    Gifting. Event. Cyber. Weekend. If you've seen these rewards and think that game balance is still in tact, you are braindead or don't play the game. Don't even get me started on beginner progression neither my guy
    I see. So you think because there are a limited amount available because of spending, game balance isn't a thing. You would be wrong. If game balance wasn't a thing, there would be no limitations on Resources. Everyone would be Thronebreaker, no one would have to wait for any Resource, no one would be able to play for free, and the Devs would work one day a week.
    Beginner progression is a) not the same as it used to be, and b) very different for someone learning to play the game and not starting an Alt. By all means, get started. Just have some substance to your conjecture.
    Game balance is totally in tact when you can spend your way to the top
    They gave t5c offers for purchase which bypasses the play wall

    You can buy cavs after cavs and get champs, iso, gold, etc
    You for the most part don’t have to play much if at all to get a bomb account

    People are mad and you aren’t gonna change that bickering
    They totally messed over a huge amount of players based on a ranked 3 6*
    That’s the issue and you really should just drop it because you aren’t helping
    Game balance has nothing to do with allowing F2P to catch up to, or go head-to-head with, spenders. There is no F2P vs. P2P. You just can't keep up with them. Nor is there a race to compete with the people already at Thronebreaker. Anyone who is well into the Title and never even batted an eyelash when it came out is not competing with people struggling to get their first R3. I think people are overestimating their position.
    Game balance changes as the situation changes. It's not even a specific number tally so much as it is keeping an overall pace for growth. Even the whaliest of whales can't change the fact that there are limits on how much you can buy. The idea that game balance is a myth is just petulant.
    Bro you aren’t even making sense anymore
    Like what’s your point?

    The whaliest of whales have unbelievably advanced accounts. You can absolutely spend your way to a sick account.

    I don’t have any issue allowing people to spend thousands a sitting on the game. I actually enjoy when they put it on YouTube because it feeds my itch to open crystals

    But the issue, the reason for this thread
    Is because they last minute changed the bar by making a r3 6* a requirement to have access to these disgustingly good unit offers
    That’s the issue - people are upset that because they either have bad rng or won’t buy the t5c offers they are prevented from accessing the offers

    Their 30$ doesn’t go nearly as far from cav to tb

    If the unit based deals were different that’s one thing. But the unit store (real money) deals are drastically different and it’s a wall you can’t get passed if you get bad rng
    Ie you get the wrong class from abyss to a class you don’t have options for
    And using very valuable resources to r3 a trash champ is a huge “f that”

    HOWEVER you can Buy the t5c offers and bypass the need to play anything
    The issue is they implement a last minute change to then leverage said change to further create disparity between the top players and the ones just a step away.
    30$ on the tb deals is arguably better than the cav Odin, and it’s real world money
    Not the f2p unit offers that you can save the in game currency up to purchase

    But real money, sure they can do what they want but the players who keep their game running have a right to be upset and voice that here
  • BadPullsMarcoBadPullsMarco Member Posts: 420 ★★★
    edited November 2020
    Thats definitely a major point there, throne breaker just appeared so recently that not enough time has been given to give enough people meaningful access. Id be curious and I'm sure @DrZola probably has the answer to this but how much time was given to players to get cavalier before their first major offer?

    Another interesting question would be, had act 7 not been pulled back, would the clearing of content to get throne breaker been easier/more realistic than obtaining this R3, given that the admins have already acknowledged that abyss (which I'm sure is 75% of the communities ability to get an R3) is intended for a roster comprising of R3s.
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Member Posts: 2,638 ★★★★★
    1_ShuNeu_1 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    1_ShuNeu_1 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Dr_Centino said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Dr_Centino said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Bahubali said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Bahubali said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales for Class Cats. The game balance is also something that needs to be taken into consideration.

    Gifting event says hi
    People keep bringing up Gifting, but they don't stop to consider the numbers. How many people would have hit TB with CM versus how many people are going to actually benefit from Gifting? Think.
    Did you even see the rewards for gifting event..just go look at the solo rank rewards.. Doesn't matter if I'm conqueror, UC, CV or TB.. If I spend money, I can get the best rewards in the game.. Even Hardest of the quests(Abyss 100%/Act6 100%) wont give me those rewards. Game balance and your statement
    "Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales"
    are just jokes..

    Money >>>>>>>> Skill
    120 people will get significant Rewards from Solo. 120, who will be spending tens of thousands of dollars to get it. The amount alone means they'll be earning it, but stop and think. 120 people, versus how many would have jumped to TB this weekend. I can assure you the number would have been much higher. There are always limitations to these things. Not even money can get past the game balance.
    Sir, game balance is a joke. See my post for more clarity.
    I've seen your Post. It lacks information.
    Gifting. Event. Cyber. Weekend. If you've seen these rewards and think that game balance is still in tact, you are braindead or don't play the game. Don't even get me started on beginner progression neither my guy
    I see. So you think because there are a limited amount available because of spending, game balance isn't a thing. You would be wrong. If game balance wasn't a thing, there would be no limitations on Resources. Everyone would be Thronebreaker, no one would have to wait for any Resource, no one would be able to play for free, and the Devs would work one day a week.
    Beginner progression is a) not the same as it used to be, and b) very different for someone learning to play the game and not starting an Alt. By all means, get started. Just have some substance to your conjecture.
    Game balance is totally in tact when you can spend your way to the top
    They gave t5c offers for purchase which bypasses the play wall

    You can buy cavs after cavs and get champs, iso, gold, etc
    You for the most part don’t have to play much if at all to get a bomb account

    People are mad and you aren’t gonna change that bickering
    They totally messed over a huge amount of players based on a ranked 3 6*
    That’s the issue and you really should just drop it because you aren’t helping
    Game balance has nothing to do with allowing F2P to catch up to, or go head-to-head with, spenders. There is no F2P vs. P2P. You just can't keep up with them. Nor is there a race to compete with the people already at Thronebreaker. Anyone who is well into the Title and never even batted an eyelash when it came out is not competing with people struggling to get their first R3. I think people are overestimating their position.
    Game balance changes as the situation changes. It's not even a specific number tally so much as it is keeping an overall pace for growth. Even the whaliest of whales can't change the fact that there are limits on how much you can buy. The idea that game balance is a myth is just petulant.
    Bro you aren’t even making sense anymore
    Like what’s your point?

    The whaliest of whales have unbelievably advanced accounts. You can absolutely spend your way to a sick account.

    I don’t have any issue allowing people to spend thousands a sitting on the game. I actually enjoy when they put it on YouTube because it feeds my itch to open crystals

    But the issue, the reason for this thread
    Is because they last minute changed the bar by making a r3 6* a requirement to have access to these disgustingly good unit offers
    That’s the issue - people are upset that because they either have bad rng or won’t buy the t5c offers they are prevented from accessing the offers

    Their 30$ doesn’t go nearly as far from cav to tb

    If the unit based deals were different that’s one thing. But the unit store (real money) deals are drastically different and it’s a wall you can’t get passed if you get bad rng
    Ie you get the wrong class from abyss to a class you don’t have options for
    And using very valuable resources to r3 a trash champ is a huge “f that”

    HOWEVER you can Buy the t5c offers and bypass the need to play anything
    The issue is they implement a last minute change to then leverage said change to further create disparity between the top players and the ones just a step away.
    30$ on the tb deals is arguably better than the cav Odin, and it’s real world money
    Not the f2p unit offers that you can save the in game currency up to purchase

    But real money, sure they can do what they want but the players who keep their game running have a right to be upset and voice that here
    The top players will never compete with those that are close to TB.

    What happens is those people get their first R3 and now they are in a 5x5 ally in war tearing up another ally that may not have those resources. It’s all about balance.
  • VinhThaiVinhThai Member Posts: 5 ★
    StevieManWonder said:

    Scopeotoe987 said:

    Why has kabam not commented on all this? There is a large majority of cav / Ftp players that are rightfully upset with how things are going and so far it’s been nothing but silence...

    Well, they already did. Miike said earlier that they are taking the feedback and learning from it for future deals. Beyond that, there really isn't anything left to say or do. They won't just change the deals now because that will cause a whole other sh*tstorm. If they change the deals, what about the people like myself who already bought them? Do we get new items as well and the people who buy the new deals only get the new stuff? Do the people who bought the deals already miss out on the new deals? Do they get to buy them again?
    There really isn't any good choice for Kabam, any way they do it, people will be mad. I for one would be pissed if the deals got changed now and I either didn't get the new stuff in my inbox or if they asked me to pay for the deals again since I bought the deals under the information that they would not change. If I would get sent the new stuff, people would be upset that I got to essentially double dip on some of the offers.
    The best thing to do is just leave it, unfortunately.
    I think Kabam can minimize the damage by selling some T5CC selectors in the unit store tomorrow (in separate packages). Cavaliers that are close to TB will become TB and receive the TB offers. It's a win-win situation. Kabam makes more money while players can buy something worth their money.
  • VendemiaireVendemiaire Member Posts: 2,178 ★★★★★
    edited November 2020
    I and several of my alliance-mates just became Cavalier this month and the last so the deals are still big for us and meant something.

    I feel sorry for those who are almost Thronebreakers that got shafted though.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,520 ★★★★★
    1_ShuNeu_1 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    1_ShuNeu_1 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Dr_Centino said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Dr_Centino said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Bahubali said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Bahubali said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales for Class Cats. The game balance is also something that needs to be taken into consideration.

    Gifting event says hi
    People keep bringing up Gifting, but they don't stop to consider the numbers. How many people would have hit TB with CM versus how many people are going to actually benefit from Gifting? Think.
    Did you even see the rewards for gifting event..just go look at the solo rank rewards.. Doesn't matter if I'm conqueror, UC, CV or TB.. If I spend money, I can get the best rewards in the game.. Even Hardest of the quests(Abyss 100%/Act6 100%) wont give me those rewards. Game balance and your statement
    "Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales"
    are just jokes..

    Money >>>>>>>> Skill
    120 people will get significant Rewards from Solo. 120, who will be spending tens of thousands of dollars to get it. The amount alone means they'll be earning it, but stop and think. 120 people, versus how many would have jumped to TB this weekend. I can assure you the number would have been much higher. There are always limitations to these things. Not even money can get past the game balance.
    Sir, game balance is a joke. See my post for more clarity.
    I've seen your Post. It lacks information.
    Gifting. Event. Cyber. Weekend. If you've seen these rewards and think that game balance is still in tact, you are braindead or don't play the game. Don't even get me started on beginner progression neither my guy
    I see. So you think because there are a limited amount available because of spending, game balance isn't a thing. You would be wrong. If game balance wasn't a thing, there would be no limitations on Resources. Everyone would be Thronebreaker, no one would have to wait for any Resource, no one would be able to play for free, and the Devs would work one day a week.
    Beginner progression is a) not the same as it used to be, and b) very different for someone learning to play the game and not starting an Alt. By all means, get started. Just have some substance to your conjecture.
    Game balance is totally in tact when you can spend your way to the top
    They gave t5c offers for purchase which bypasses the play wall

    You can buy cavs after cavs and get champs, iso, gold, etc
    You for the most part don’t have to play much if at all to get a bomb account

    People are mad and you aren’t gonna change that bickering
    They totally messed over a huge amount of players based on a ranked 3 6*
    That’s the issue and you really should just drop it because you aren’t helping
    Game balance has nothing to do with allowing F2P to catch up to, or go head-to-head with, spenders. There is no F2P vs. P2P. You just can't keep up with them. Nor is there a race to compete with the people already at Thronebreaker. Anyone who is well into the Title and never even batted an eyelash when it came out is not competing with people struggling to get their first R3. I think people are overestimating their position.
    Game balance changes as the situation changes. It's not even a specific number tally so much as it is keeping an overall pace for growth. Even the whaliest of whales can't change the fact that there are limits on how much you can buy. The idea that game balance is a myth is just petulant.
    Bro you aren’t even making sense anymore
    Like what’s your point?

    The whaliest of whales have unbelievably advanced accounts. You can absolutely spend your way to a sick account.

    I don’t have any issue allowing people to spend thousands a sitting on the game. I actually enjoy when they put it on YouTube because it feeds my itch to open crystals

    But the issue, the reason for this thread
    Is because they last minute changed the bar by making a r3 6* a requirement to have access to these disgustingly good unit offers
    That’s the issue - people are upset that because they either have bad rng or won’t buy the t5c offers they are prevented from accessing the offers

    Their 30$ doesn’t go nearly as far from cav to tb

    If the unit based deals were different that’s one thing. But the unit store (real money) deals are drastically different and it’s a wall you can’t get passed if you get bad rng
    Ie you get the wrong class from abyss to a class you don’t have options for
    And using very valuable resources to r3 a trash champ is a huge “f that”

    HOWEVER you can Buy the t5c offers and bypass the need to play anything
    The issue is they implement a last minute change to then leverage said change to further create disparity between the top players and the ones just a step away.
    30$ on the tb deals is arguably better than the cav Odin, and it’s real world money
    Not the f2p unit offers that you can save the in game currency up to purchase

    But real money, sure they can do what they want but the players who keep their game running have a right to be upset and voice that here
    There was nothing last-minute about it. Thronebreaker has been a thing for months now. We all knew that Thronebreaker would get the most offered. As for "allowing" people to spend, what part of spending requires permission from us?
  • 1_ShuNeu_11_ShuNeu_1 Member Posts: 375 ★★★
    Texas_11 said:

    1_ShuNeu_1 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    1_ShuNeu_1 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Dr_Centino said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Dr_Centino said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Bahubali said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Bahubali said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales for Class Cats. The game balance is also something that needs to be taken into consideration.

    Gifting event says hi
    People keep bringing up Gifting, but they don't stop to consider the numbers. How many people would have hit TB with CM versus how many people are going to actually benefit from Gifting? Think.
    Did you even see the rewards for gifting event..just go look at the solo rank rewards.. Doesn't matter if I'm conqueror, UC, CV or TB.. If I spend money, I can get the best rewards in the game.. Even Hardest of the quests(Abyss 100%/Act6 100%) wont give me those rewards. Game balance and your statement
    "Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales"
    are just jokes..

    Money >>>>>>>> Skill
    120 people will get significant Rewards from Solo. 120, who will be spending tens of thousands of dollars to get it. The amount alone means they'll be earning it, but stop and think. 120 people, versus how many would have jumped to TB this weekend. I can assure you the number would have been much higher. There are always limitations to these things. Not even money can get past the game balance.
    Sir, game balance is a joke. See my post for more clarity.
    I've seen your Post. It lacks information.
    Gifting. Event. Cyber. Weekend. If you've seen these rewards and think that game balance is still in tact, you are braindead or don't play the game. Don't even get me started on beginner progression neither my guy
    I see. So you think because there are a limited amount available because of spending, game balance isn't a thing. You would be wrong. If game balance wasn't a thing, there would be no limitations on Resources. Everyone would be Thronebreaker, no one would have to wait for any Resource, no one would be able to play for free, and the Devs would work one day a week.
    Beginner progression is a) not the same as it used to be, and b) very different for someone learning to play the game and not starting an Alt. By all means, get started. Just have some substance to your conjecture.
    Game balance is totally in tact when you can spend your way to the top
    They gave t5c offers for purchase which bypasses the play wall

    You can buy cavs after cavs and get champs, iso, gold, etc
    You for the most part don’t have to play much if at all to get a bomb account

    People are mad and you aren’t gonna change that bickering
    They totally messed over a huge amount of players based on a ranked 3 6*
    That’s the issue and you really should just drop it because you aren’t helping
    Game balance has nothing to do with allowing F2P to catch up to, or go head-to-head with, spenders. There is no F2P vs. P2P. You just can't keep up with them. Nor is there a race to compete with the people already at Thronebreaker. Anyone who is well into the Title and never even batted an eyelash when it came out is not competing with people struggling to get their first R3. I think people are overestimating their position.
    Game balance changes as the situation changes. It's not even a specific number tally so much as it is keeping an overall pace for growth. Even the whaliest of whales can't change the fact that there are limits on how much you can buy. The idea that game balance is a myth is just petulant.
    Bro you aren’t even making sense anymore
    Like what’s your point?

    The whaliest of whales have unbelievably advanced accounts. You can absolutely spend your way to a sick account.

    I don’t have any issue allowing people to spend thousands a sitting on the game. I actually enjoy when they put it on YouTube because it feeds my itch to open crystals

    But the issue, the reason for this thread
    Is because they last minute changed the bar by making a r3 6* a requirement to have access to these disgustingly good unit offers
    That’s the issue - people are upset that because they either have bad rng or won’t buy the t5c offers they are prevented from accessing the offers

    Their 30$ doesn’t go nearly as far from cav to tb

    If the unit based deals were different that’s one thing. But the unit store (real money) deals are drastically different and it’s a wall you can’t get passed if you get bad rng
    Ie you get the wrong class from abyss to a class you don’t have options for
    And using very valuable resources to r3 a trash champ is a huge “f that”

    HOWEVER you can Buy the t5c offers and bypass the need to play anything
    The issue is they implement a last minute change to then leverage said change to further create disparity between the top players and the ones just a step away.
    30$ on the tb deals is arguably better than the cav Odin, and it’s real world money
    Not the f2p unit offers that you can save the in game currency up to purchase

    But real money, sure they can do what they want but the players who keep their game running have a right to be upset and voice that here
    The top players will never compete with those that are close to TB.

    What happens is those people get their first R3 and now they are in a 5x5 ally in war tearing up another ally that may not have those resources. It’s all about balance.
    How does an r3 equate to ruining other alliances in war? An r3 doesn’t immediately mean you’re gonna win
    Furthermore this forced equity is nonsense
    Give the offers to everyone and let the chips fall where they may - they should of let even brand new day 1 accounts purchase the tb offers imo

    If someone wants to spend and excel let them
    But forcing balance has become extremely unbalanced - and has upset a huge portion of players because a last minute arbitrary change
  • 1_ShuNeu_11_ShuNeu_1 Member Posts: 375 ★★★
    VinhThai said:

    StevieManWonder said:

    Scopeotoe987 said:

    Why has kabam not commented on all this? There is a large majority of cav / Ftp players that are rightfully upset with how things are going and so far it’s been nothing but silence...

    Well, they already did. Miike said earlier that they are taking the feedback and learning from it for future deals. Beyond that, there really isn't anything left to say or do. They won't just change the deals now because that will cause a whole other sh*tstorm. If they change the deals, what about the people like myself who already bought them? Do we get new items as well and the people who buy the new deals only get the new stuff? Do the people who bought the deals already miss out on the new deals? Do they get to buy them again?
    There really isn't any good choice for Kabam, any way they do it, people will be mad. I for one would be pissed if the deals got changed now and I either didn't get the new stuff in my inbox or if they asked me to pay for the deals again since I bought the deals under the information that they would not change. If I would get sent the new stuff, people would be upset that I got to essentially double dip on some of the offers.
    The best thing to do is just leave it, unfortunately.
    I think Kabam can minimize the damage by selling some T5CC selectors in the unit store tomorrow (in separate packages). Cavaliers that are close to TB will become TB and receive the TB offers. It's a win-win situation. Kabam makes more money while players can buy something worth their money.
    A single t5c selector for 50$ would make them boatloads
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,520 ★★★★★
    1_ShuNeu_1 said:

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    GroundedWisdom said:

    Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales for Class Cats. The game balance is also something that needs to be taken into consideration.

    Gifting event says hi
    People keep bringing up Gifting, but they don't stop to consider the numbers. How many people would have hit TB with CM versus how many people are going to actually benefit from Gifting? Think.
    Did you even see the rewards for gifting event..just go look at the solo rank rewards.. Doesn't matter if I'm conqueror, UC, CV or TB.. If I spend money, I can get the best rewards in the game.. Even Hardest of the quests(Abyss 100%/Act6 100%) wont give me those rewards. Game balance and your statement
    "Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales"
    are just jokes..

    Money >>>>>>>> Skill
    120 people will get significant Rewards from Solo. 120, who will be spending tens of thousands of dollars to get it. The amount alone means they'll be earning it, but stop and think. 120 people, versus how many would have jumped to TB this weekend. I can assure you the number would have been much higher. There are always limitations to these things. Not even money can get past the game balance.
    Sir, game balance is a joke. See my post for more clarity.
    I've seen your Post. It lacks information.
    Gifting. Event. Cyber. Weekend. If you've seen these rewards and think that game balance is still in tact, you are braindead or don't play the game. Don't even get me started on beginner progression neither my guy
    I see. So you think because there are a limited amount available because of spending, game balance isn't a thing. You would be wrong. If game balance wasn't a thing, there would be no limitations on Resources. Everyone would be Thronebreaker, no one would have to wait for any Resource, no one would be able to play for free, and the Devs would work one day a week.
    Beginner progression is a) not the same as it used to be, and b) very different for someone learning to play the game and not starting an Alt. By all means, get started. Just have some substance to your conjecture.
    Game balance is totally in tact when you can spend your way to the top
    They gave t5c offers for purchase which bypasses the play wall

    You can buy cavs after cavs and get champs, iso, gold, etc
    You for the most part don’t have to play much if at all to get a bomb account

    People are mad and you aren’t gonna change that bickering
    They totally messed over a huge amount of players based on a ranked 3 6*
    That’s the issue and you really should just drop it because you aren’t helping
    Game balance has nothing to do with allowing F2P to catch up to, or go head-to-head with, spenders. There is no F2P vs. P2P. You just can't keep up with them. Nor is there a race to compete with the people already at Thronebreaker. Anyone who is well into the Title and never even batted an eyelash when it came out is not competing with people struggling to get their first R3. I think people are overestimating their position.
    Game balance changes as the situation changes. It's not even a specific number tally so much as it is keeping an overall pace for growth. Even the whaliest of whales can't change the fact that there are limits on how much you can buy. The idea that game balance is a myth is just petulant.
    Bro you aren’t even making sense anymore
    Like what’s your point?

    The whaliest of whales have unbelievably advanced accounts. You can absolutely spend your way to a sick account.

    I don’t have any issue allowing people to spend thousands a sitting on the game. I actually enjoy when they put it on YouTube because it feeds my itch to open crystals

    But the issue, the reason for this thread
    Is because they last minute changed the bar by making a r3 6* a requirement to have access to these disgustingly good unit offers
    That’s the issue - people are upset that because they either have bad rng or won’t buy the t5c offers they are prevented from accessing the offers

    Their 30$ doesn’t go nearly as far from cav to tb

    If the unit based deals were different that’s one thing. But the unit store (real money) deals are drastically different and it’s a wall you can’t get passed if you get bad rng
    Ie you get the wrong class from abyss to a class you don’t have options for
    And using very valuable resources to r3 a trash champ is a huge “f that”

    HOWEVER you can Buy the t5c offers and bypass the need to play anything
    The issue is they implement a last minute change to then leverage said change to further create disparity between the top players and the ones just a step away.
    30$ on the tb deals is arguably better than the cav Odin, and it’s real world money
    Not the f2p unit offers that you can save the in game currency up to purchase

    But real money, sure they can do what they want but the players who keep their game running have a right to be upset and voice that here
    The top players will never compete with those that are close to TB.

    What happens is those people get their first R3 and now they are in a 5x5 ally in war tearing up another ally that may not have those resources. It’s all about balance.
    How does an r3 equate to ruining other alliances in war? An r3 doesn’t immediately mean you’re gonna win
    Furthermore this forced equity is nonsense
    Give the offers to everyone and let the chips fall where they may - they should of let even brand new day 1 accounts purchase the tb offers imo

    If someone wants to spend and excel let them
    But forcing balance has become extremely unbalanced - and has upset a huge portion of players because a last minute arbitrary change
    Right. Just give everyone what they want. Balance is a myth. We all play in a bubble. It's not like progress affects game systems or anything. Who cares about what state the game will be in after that? Who cares about the work it takes after peppering things through the ranks? Just let people have whatever they want, and do the work to fix everything after.
    Petulant.
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