The Future of Content(Pretty Long)

danielmath · December 2020

Ace_03 said:

Mr_Predictor said:
Also, for the people that disagree, what do you suggest endgame players do in their spare time then? What SHOULD they be doing? Summer of Pain was promised and delayed.

Also, I definitely agree with you OP.
Isn't map 7 and tier 1 wars enough for you? Maybe play another game in the meantime?

Even tier 1 war has been nerfed pretty hard. Map 7 (depending on the paths you have) can be a little challenging because of the globals (without globals it’s a joke), but that’s not much.

Worknprogress · December 2020

Ace_03 said:

Ebony_Naw said:

Ace_03 said:
A

And yes, I beat all the variants, as soon as they we're released.

And I beat all of act 6, before any re-balancing, my position still is the same, nice try at condescendingly mocking me by assuming I was just a mid tier player having a moan.
Great, so what's the problem with endgamers wanting a greater challenge in content? As someone who has months' worth of content still to go through, I have no problem with people getting content in game that is currently out of reach for me. Why is that a farfetched position?

Strawmanning and harping on a single point in my comment does nothing to disprove the underlying theme of my argument? Your comment was still toxic, and my statement was meant to assert that I do not believe I am an endgame player, but I see no problem in there being content that's too much for me to chew off.
You have no argument, the only counter you have is typing toxic.

I've already made my points, you just can't accept the reality of the situation, 1st you try to discredit my post by implying I'm not end game, then it's back to the only thing you can throw at me, toxic, because anything that disagrees with what you believe is right is just wrong and poisonous right?

I CLEARLY wrote the time will come when ultra hard content is released, it's just not the time atm, and I'll write it again, we had to stomach act 6 for a year, now you all have to stomach act 7.

Ultra hard content should not be the norm, but a novelty and you're arguing and harping about a niche piece of content that is the exception, not the rule.

Smh.

Most people didn't stomach it. They just sat around and complained about it. I plan on returning the favor. As you said, deal with it.

danielmath · December 2020

Ace_03 said:

danielmath said:

Ace_03 said:

Mr_Predictor said:
Also, for the people that disagree, what do you suggest endgame players do in their spare time then? What SHOULD they be doing? Summer of Pain was promised and delayed.

Also, I definitely agree with you OP.
Isn't map 7 and tier 1 wars enough for you? Maybe play another game in the meantime?
Even tier 1 war has been nerfed pretty hard. Map 7 (depending on the paths you have) can be a little challenging because of the globals (without globals it’s a joke), but that’s not much.
Nothing will ever be enough for anyone in MCOC, can't cater to everyone, we have periods of catering, now it's the mid tier catering time, like I wrote before, your time will come.

Yup, the entire roadmap was focused on nerfing everything and making everything easier so 7.1 and V6 are exactly what I expected. Is it a bummer? Of course, is it surprising? Absolutely not. Is it wrong of them to do it? Probably not (even if you lose the interest of top players).

ESF · December 2020

One thing that I honestly think Kabam could/should do is create "Solo Incursions."

Hear me out -- seriously. Hear me out. I've played games for decades. There's a way to have content for endgame players that continually adapts and evolves for them.

It just requires Kabam to invest in giving those players a reason to enter a mode where they are "dungeon crawling," for purposes of lore AND rewards that are commensurate for the level of endgame players.

For example: Say you're an endgame player. And you want to start on the path to R4 6-stars.

Kabam says "OK. Here's the content that you have to take on. Gated for only 6-stars. You get 2 percent of the catalysts you need for every dungeon you clear, three bosses per dungeon. It scales and gets harder with every room you clear."

See, that's what needs to happen here. You have to give people 1. a challenge, 2. a purpose, and 3. a goal.

Incursions right now...they have the mechanics of it. But making people drag a partner with them...it's so pointless to me.

Repurpose those mechanics into a solo mode, have it scale in difficulty, gate it to 6-stars, reward the players who enter accordingly.

That solves every single problem.

ESF · December 2020

This game -- which I truly enjoy -- has always baffled me in that they almost force you to play with other people in the modes that adapt and scale in difficulty.

I have been endgame in many games over the years. The last thing you want when you've got a huge, OP roster is to constantly have to look for someone else to do something with.

You want to test your skills AND your roster SOLO. It baffles me how Kabam makes the content that scales require you to bring someone else. Totally baffles me

Mauled · December 2020

HI_guys said:

Mauled said:

Moot4Life said:
i reckon perhaps using some lower ranked champions can make things harder
I personally don’t see the point in having to use lower ranked or rarity champions in anything other than things like the 4* challenge MEQ because it defeats the whole purpose of the game which is the development of a wide and powerful roster.
The sole reason of upgrading champs is so that you can make future content easier for you.

that's pretty much what I said

ESF · December 2020

Here's how I'd scale "Solo Incursions" for rewards:

Rooms 1-4: 2 percent catalyst crystals
Room 5: 10 percent catalyst crystal
Room 6-9: 2 percent catalyst crystals
Room 10: 10 percent catalyst selector
Room 11-14: 2 percent catalyst crystals
Room 15: 10 percent catalyst selector

You can only enter once per day, on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays.

Sprinkle in some Signature Stones, as needed.

That's how you solve this problem

Masterpuff · December 2020

Ace_03 said:

Worknprogress said:

Ace_03 said:

Ebony_Naw said:

Ace_03 said:
A

And yes, I beat all the variants, as soon as they we're released.

And I beat all of act 6, before any re-balancing, my position still is the same, nice try at condescendingly mocking me by assuming I was just a mid tier player having a moan.
Great, so what's the problem with endgamers wanting a greater challenge in content? As someone who has months' worth of content still to go through, I have no problem with people getting content in game that is currently out of reach for me. Why is that a farfetched position?

Strawmanning and harping on a single point in my comment does nothing to disprove the underlying theme of my argument? Your comment was still toxic, and my statement was meant to assert that I do not believe I am an endgame player, but I see no problem in there being content that's too much for me to chew off.
You have no argument, the only counter you have is typing toxic.

I've already made my points, you just can't accept the reality of the situation, 1st you try to discredit my post by implying I'm not end game, then it's back to the only thing you can throw at me, toxic, because anything that disagrees with what you believe is right is just wrong and poisonous right?

I CLEARLY wrote the time will come when ultra hard content is released, it's just not the time atm, and I'll write it again, we had to stomach act 6 for a year, now you all have to stomach act 7.

Ultra hard content should not be the norm, but a novelty and you're arguing and harping about a niche piece of content that is the exception, not the rule.

Smh.

Most people didn't stomach it. They just sat around and complained about it. I plan on returning the favor. As you said, deal with it.
I didn't, I beat it, so not sure what is your point. If you just want to write something to have the final word, feel free to do so after this message.

Quit being so defensive, not everyone is insulting you with a response.

The_Sentry06 · December 2020

Ace_03 said:

Worknprogress said:

Ace_03 said:

Ebony_Naw said:

Ace_03 said:
A

And yes, I beat all the variants, as soon as they we're released.

And I beat all of act 6, before any re-balancing, my position still is the same, nice try at condescendingly mocking me by assuming I was just a mid tier player having a moan.
Great, so what's the problem with endgamers wanting a greater challenge in content? As someone who has months' worth of content still to go through, I have no problem with people getting content in game that is currently out of reach for me. Why is that a farfetched position?

Strawmanning and harping on a single point in my comment does nothing to disprove the underlying theme of my argument? Your comment was still toxic, and my statement was meant to assert that I do not believe I am an endgame player, but I see no problem in there being content that's too much for me to chew off.
You have no argument, the only counter you have is typing toxic.

I've already made my points, you just can't accept the reality of the situation, 1st you try to discredit my post by implying I'm not end game, then it's back to the only thing you can throw at me, toxic, because anything that disagrees with what you believe is right is just wrong and poisonous right?

I CLEARLY wrote the time will come when ultra hard content is released, it's just not the time atm, and I'll write it again, we had to stomach act 6 for a year, now you all have to stomach act 7.

Ultra hard content should not be the norm, but a novelty and you're arguing and harping about a niche piece of content that is the exception, not the rule.

Smh.

Most people didn't stomach it. They just sat around and complained about it. I plan on returning the favor. As you said, deal with it.
I didn't, I beat it, so not sure what is your point. If you just want to write something to have the final word, feel free to do so after this message.

YOU might not have but majority of the community have. I too would find it extremely boring if I had nothing else to acomplish in game. I hope Kabam releases some content for endgame players soon.

Hammerbro_64 · December 2020

I’m not in your camp as I am still fairly challenged by Variants and some paths in 7.1 since my roster is still very much under development. I agree with your sentiment though. Heck, half of why I’m in a solo alliance is so I don’t hit a content cap since I’m a few good pulls (and a bunch of leveling materials) away from being able to do almost any content I really set my mind to.

Arslankhan629 · December 2020

Form which level I should be able to apply variants

The_Sentry06 · December 2020

Ace_03 said:

The_Sentry06 said:

Ace_03 said:

Worknprogress said:

Ace_03 said:

Ebony_Naw said:

Ace_03 said:
A

And yes, I beat all the variants, as soon as they we're released.

And I beat all of act 6, before any re-balancing, my position still is the same, nice try at condescendingly mocking me by assuming I was just a mid tier player having a moan.
Great, so what's the problem with endgamers wanting a greater challenge in content? As someone who has months' worth of content still to go through, I have no problem with people getting content in game that is currently out of reach for me. Why is that a farfetched position?

Strawmanning and harping on a single point in my comment does nothing to disprove the underlying theme of my argument? Your comment was still toxic, and my statement was meant to assert that I do not believe I am an endgame player, but I see no problem in there being content that's too much for me to chew off.
You have no argument, the only counter you have is typing toxic.

I've already made my points, you just can't accept the reality of the situation, 1st you try to discredit my post by implying I'm not end game, then it's back to the only thing you can throw at me, toxic, because anything that disagrees with what you believe is right is just wrong and poisonous right?

I CLEARLY wrote the time will come when ultra hard content is released, it's just not the time atm, and I'll write it again, we had to stomach act 6 for a year, now you all have to stomach act 7.

Ultra hard content should not be the norm, but a novelty and you're arguing and harping about a niche piece of content that is the exception, not the rule.

Smh.

Most people didn't stomach it. They just sat around and complained about it. I plan on returning the favor. As you said, deal with it.
I didn't, I beat it, so not sure what is your point. If you just want to write something to have the final word, feel free to do so after this message.
YOU might not have but majority of the community have. I too would find it extremely boring if I had nothing else to acomplish in game. I hope Kabam releases some content for endgame players soon.
Majority? Sure man, whatever fits your narrative.

Were you living under a rock?

Sarvanga1_ · December 2020

Yes there should be challenging content for end gamers soon. But v6 and act 7.1 designs are top-notch and too much fun.

ESF · December 2020

I'm not saying that folks can't argue with each other, but I am saying that if someone from Kabam does read this, it might be helpful to actually lay out something that you want to play that makes sense for you AND them, instead of talking to each other in a way that makes them close the thread and move on with their day

They have proven that they listen -- even if they don't do exactly what any particular person wants

But they'll close this thread if you keep fighting over nothing

Thunderstruck77 · December 2020

It’s the point of the game to rank champs to make content easier...

The_Sentry06 · December 2020

Ace_03 said:

The_Sentry06 said:

Ace_03 said:

The_Sentry06 said:

Ace_03 said:

Worknprogress said:

Ace_03 said:

Ebony_Naw said:

Ace_03 said:
A

And yes, I beat all the variants, as soon as they we're released.

And I beat all of act 6, before any re-balancing, my position still is the same, nice try at condescendingly mocking me by assuming I was just a mid tier player having a moan.
Great, so what's the problem with endgamers wanting a greater challenge in content? As someone who has months' worth of content still to go through, I have no problem with people getting content in game that is currently out of reach for me. Why is that a farfetched position?

Strawmanning and harping on a single point in my comment does nothing to disprove the underlying theme of my argument? Your comment was still toxic, and my statement was meant to assert that I do not believe I am an endgame player, but I see no problem in there being content that's too much for me to chew off.
You have no argument, the only counter you have is typing toxic.

I've already made my points, you just can't accept the reality of the situation, 1st you try to discredit my post by implying I'm not end game, then it's back to the only thing you can throw at me, toxic, because anything that disagrees with what you believe is right is just wrong and poisonous right?

I CLEARLY wrote the time will come when ultra hard content is released, it's just not the time atm, and I'll write it again, we had to stomach act 6 for a year, now you all have to stomach act 7.

Ultra hard content should not be the norm, but a novelty and you're arguing and harping about a niche piece of content that is the exception, not the rule.

Smh.

Most people didn't stomach it. They just sat around and complained about it. I plan on returning the favor. As you said, deal with it.
I didn't, I beat it, so not sure what is your point. If you just want to write something to have the final word, feel free to do so after this message.
YOU might not have but majority of the community have. I too would find it extremely boring if I had nothing else to acomplish in game. I hope Kabam releases some content for endgame players soon.
Majority? Sure man, whatever fits your narrative.
Were you living under a rock?
The response for act 7 and V6 has been overwhelmingly positive, well received.

To state otherwise is just confusing to me. No matter how many times you try to dispute this, it won't make it anymore true.

Ahhh shucks...I thought you were talking about act 6. In that case, I agree with your points. Now if you excuse me, I am gonna sit here in humiliation.

danielmath · December 2020

Ace_03 said:

The_Sentry06 said:

Ace_03 said:

The_Sentry06 said:

Ace_03 said:

Worknprogress said:

Ace_03 said:

Ebony_Naw said:

Ace_03 said:
A

And yes, I beat all the variants, as soon as they we're released.

And I beat all of act 6, before any re-balancing, my position still is the same, nice try at condescendingly mocking me by assuming I was just a mid tier player having a moan.
Great, so what's the problem with endgamers wanting a greater challenge in content? As someone who has months' worth of content still to go through, I have no problem with people getting content in game that is currently out of reach for me. Why is that a farfetched position?

Strawmanning and harping on a single point in my comment does nothing to disprove the underlying theme of my argument? Your comment was still toxic, and my statement was meant to assert that I do not believe I am an endgame player, but I see no problem in there being content that's too much for me to chew off.
You have no argument, the only counter you have is typing toxic.

I've already made my points, you just can't accept the reality of the situation, 1st you try to discredit my post by implying I'm not end game, then it's back to the only thing you can throw at me, toxic, because anything that disagrees with what you believe is right is just wrong and poisonous right?

I CLEARLY wrote the time will come when ultra hard content is released, it's just not the time atm, and I'll write it again, we had to stomach act 6 for a year, now you all have to stomach act 7.

Ultra hard content should not be the norm, but a novelty and you're arguing and harping about a niche piece of content that is the exception, not the rule.

Smh.

Most people didn't stomach it. They just sat around and complained about it. I plan on returning the favor. As you said, deal with it.
I didn't, I beat it, so not sure what is your point. If you just want to write something to have the final word, feel free to do so after this message.
YOU might not have but majority of the community have. I too would find it extremely boring if I had nothing else to acomplish in game. I hope Kabam releases some content for endgame players soon.
Majority? Sure man, whatever fits your narrative.
Were you living under a rock?
The response for act 7 and V6 has been overwhelmingly positive, well received.

To state otherwise is just confusing to me. No matter how many times you try to dispute this, it won't make it anymore true.

Ya super positive, easy content will also be very well received. There was a thread recently about people’s favorite event ever and the most voted one was gwenpool goes to the movies. In that event, you just did autofight and got a 5* crystal

H3t3r · December 2020

danielmath said:

Ace_03 said:

The_Sentry06 said:

Ace_03 said:

The_Sentry06 said:

Ace_03 said:

Worknprogress said:

Ace_03 said:

Ebony_Naw said:

Ace_03 said:
A

And yes, I beat all the variants, as soon as they we're released.

And I beat all of act 6, before any re-balancing, my position still is the same, nice try at condescendingly mocking me by assuming I was just a mid tier player having a moan.
Great, so what's the problem with endgamers wanting a greater challenge in content? As someone who has months' worth of content still to go through, I have no problem with people getting content in game that is currently out of reach for me. Why is that a farfetched position?

Strawmanning and harping on a single point in my comment does nothing to disprove the underlying theme of my argument? Your comment was still toxic, and my statement was meant to assert that I do not believe I am an endgame player, but I see no problem in there being content that's too much for me to chew off.
You have no argument, the only counter you have is typing toxic.

I've already made my points, you just can't accept the reality of the situation, 1st you try to discredit my post by implying I'm not end game, then it's back to the only thing you can throw at me, toxic, because anything that disagrees with what you believe is right is just wrong and poisonous right?

I CLEARLY wrote the time will come when ultra hard content is released, it's just not the time atm, and I'll write it again, we had to stomach act 6 for a year, now you all have to stomach act 7.

Ultra hard content should not be the norm, but a novelty and you're arguing and harping about a niche piece of content that is the exception, not the rule.

Smh.

Most people didn't stomach it. They just sat around and complained about it. I plan on returning the favor. As you said, deal with it.
I didn't, I beat it, so not sure what is your point. If you just want to write something to have the final word, feel free to do so after this message.
YOU might not have but majority of the community have. I too would find it extremely boring if I had nothing else to acomplish in game. I hope Kabam releases some content for endgame players soon.
Majority? Sure man, whatever fits your narrative.
Were you living under a rock?
The response for act 7 and V6 has been overwhelmingly positive, well received.

To state otherwise is just confusing to me. No matter how many times you try to dispute this, it won't make it anymore true.
Ya super positive, easy content will also be very well received. There was a thread recently about people’s favorite event ever and the most voted one was gwenpool goes to the movies. In that event, you just did autofight and got a 5* crystal

How is my little symbiote or rockets scrap yard not the peoples favorite. They were extremely unique and we haven't quite had events like those in a long time. Still boggles my mind how gwenpool goes to the movies is the peoples favourite

danielmath · December 2020

H3t3r said:

danielmath said:

Ace_03 said:

The_Sentry06 said:

Ace_03 said:

The_Sentry06 said:

Ace_03 said:

Worknprogress said:

Ace_03 said:

Ebony_Naw said:

Ace_03 said:
A

And yes, I beat all the variants, as soon as they we're released.

And I beat all of act 6, before any re-balancing, my position still is the same, nice try at condescendingly mocking me by assuming I was just a mid tier player having a moan.
Great, so what's the problem with endgamers wanting a greater challenge in content? As someone who has months' worth of content still to go through, I have no problem with people getting content in game that is currently out of reach for me. Why is that a farfetched position?

Strawmanning and harping on a single point in my comment does nothing to disprove the underlying theme of my argument? Your comment was still toxic, and my statement was meant to assert that I do not believe I am an endgame player, but I see no problem in there being content that's too much for me to chew off.
You have no argument, the only counter you have is typing toxic.

I've already made my points, you just can't accept the reality of the situation, 1st you try to discredit my post by implying I'm not end game, then it's back to the only thing you can throw at me, toxic, because anything that disagrees with what you believe is right is just wrong and poisonous right?

I CLEARLY wrote the time will come when ultra hard content is released, it's just not the time atm, and I'll write it again, we had to stomach act 6 for a year, now you all have to stomach act 7.

Ultra hard content should not be the norm, but a novelty and you're arguing and harping about a niche piece of content that is the exception, not the rule.

Smh.

Most people didn't stomach it. They just sat around and complained about it. I plan on returning the favor. As you said, deal with it.
I didn't, I beat it, so not sure what is your point. If you just want to write something to have the final word, feel free to do so after this message.
YOU might not have but majority of the community have. I too would find it extremely boring if I had nothing else to acomplish in game. I hope Kabam releases some content for endgame players soon.
Majority? Sure man, whatever fits your narrative.
Were you living under a rock?
The response for act 7 and V6 has been overwhelmingly positive, well received.

To state otherwise is just confusing to me. No matter how many times you try to dispute this, it won't make it anymore true.
Ya super positive, easy content will also be very well received. There was a thread recently about people’s favorite event ever and the most voted one was gwenpool goes to the movies. In that event, you just did autofight and got a 5* crystal
How is my little symbiote or rockets scrap yard not the peoples favorite. They were extremely unique and we haven't quite had events like those in a long time. Still boggles my mind how gwenpool goes to the movies is the peoples favourite

Because it was free rewards......

Crcrcrc · December 2020

The issue is that no matter how difficult the content gets, endgamers will just keep throwing revives at it and be done in a week. Kabam can’t just throw out content completable by 5% of the playerbase that is done in 2 days. They will lose all non endgame players. Kabam has to focus on the biggest group of players, and that is the ones who do not have a massive roster from years of playing and $1000s of dollars.

The Future of Content(Pretty Long)

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