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  • AgresssorAgresssor Member Posts: 251 ★★
    Grim7787 said:

    Agresssor said:


    4/55 138k heavy attack with 28 hexs chargers + suicides mastery

    Wow, wtf

    The Update is out?
    Yes
  • AgresssorAgresssor Member Posts: 251 ★★
    edited March 2021
    KRoNX1 said:

    Agresssor said:


    4/55 138k heavy attack with 28 hexs chargers + suicides mastery

    Okay . So can u show the other side of the pic? Moreover wht everyone is pissed abt is the fact that kabam took his utilties away.
    No problem

  • Grim7787Grim7787 Member Posts: 73
    Not seeing it yet...
  • AgresssorAgresssor Member Posts: 251 ★★
    Graves_3 said:

    Agresssor said:


    4/55 138k heavy attack with 28 hexs chargers + suicides mastery

    This is psylocke without suicides. How many people actually use psylocke?
    The damage doesn’t mean much when his utility has been stripped.

    Edit: just to clarify, I am not dissing on psylocke.
    Look at the number of hits
  • CosmicGuardianCosmicGuardian Member Posts: 408 ★★★
    Agresssor said:


    4/55 138k heavy attack with 28 hexs chargers + suicides mastery

    I don’t think the update is out yet, I don’t see it on my device, unless it’s only out on one provider so far. Where did this picture come from? Just curious as to the validity of what we’re seeing.
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,560 ★★★★★
    Agresssor said:


    Graves_3 said:

    Agresssor said:


    4/55 138k heavy attack with 28 hexs chargers + suicides mastery

    This is psylocke without suicides. How many people actually use psylocke?
    The damage doesn’t mean much when his utility has been stripped.

    Edit: just to clarify, I am not dissing on psylocke.
    Look at the number of hits
    Cap marvel is dead though 😂
  • AgresssorAgresssor Member Posts: 251 ★★

    Agresssor said:


    4/55 138k heavy attack with 28 hexs chargers + suicides mastery

    I don’t think the update is out yet, I don’t see it on my device, unless it’s only out on one provider so far. Where did this picture come from? Just curious as to the validity of what we’re seeing.
    The pcitures come from my smartphone
  • Grim7787Grim7787 Member Posts: 73
    Graves_3 said:

    Agresssor said:


    Graves_3 said:

    Agresssor said:


    4/55 138k heavy attack with 28 hexs chargers + suicides mastery

    This is psylocke without suicides. How many people actually use psylocke?
    The damage doesn’t mean much when his utility has been stripped.

    Edit: just to clarify, I am not dissing on psylocke.
    Look at the number of hits
    Cap marvel is dead though 😂
    Half. What about the rest, lol
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,560 ★★★★★
    edited March 2021
    Grim7787 said:

    Graves_3 said:

    Agresssor said:


    Graves_3 said:

    Agresssor said:


    4/55 138k heavy attack with 28 hexs chargers + suicides mastery

    This is psylocke without suicides. How many people actually use psylocke?
    The damage doesn’t mean much when his utility has been stripped.

    Edit: just to clarify, I am not dissing on psylocke.
    Look at the number of hits
    Cap marvel is dead though 😂
    Half. What about the rest, lol
    I meant with psylocke..not hood...lol..wonder how long it will take to get the remaining down with just 2 more bullets
  • Grim7787Grim7787 Member Posts: 73
    Update just showed for me...

    iOS
  • AgresssorAgresssor Member Posts: 251 ★★
    41 charges = 160k from 4/55


  • Pancake_FacePancake_Face Member Posts: 1,390 ★★★★
    Grim7787 said:

    But, @Texas_11, you're missing the point. Of course there are ways around things. However, those of us who do use Hood regularly should not have to now "work around" something because they took away a "CORE" part of his kit that was perfectly fine to begin with.

    Exactly my mini has Hood and I was planning on using him for 6.2 but I guess not
  • AgresssorAgresssor Member Posts: 251 ★★

    Agresssor said:

    41 charges = 160k from 4/55


    Great, now what I’ve I don’t have a buff control champ and I wanted one?

    What if with the next update to a champ takes their utility and doesn’t get the numbers right. This does not make the hood buff ok.
    I dont know what about the fateseal but i like the new hex pistols burst damage
  • KRoNX1KRoNX1 Member Posts: 1,089 ★★★★
    edited March 2021
    Agresssor said:

    Agresssor said:

    41 charges = 160k from 4/55


    Great, now what I’ve I don’t have a buff control champ and I wanted one?

    What if with the next update to a champ takes their utility and doesn’t get the numbers right. This does not make the hood buff ok.
    I dont know what about the fateseal but i like the new hex pistols burst damage
    Can u KO cap marvel and then send the screenshot? He also has class advantage in that fight. The number of bullets also play a mojor part in his usability . Why should someone use a damage champ for one fight when there r champs who have better damage and can be used in multiple fights.
  • AgresssorAgresssor Member Posts: 251 ★★
    KRoNX1 said:

    Agresssor said:

    Agresssor said:

    41 charges = 160k from 4/55


    Great, now what I’ve I don’t have a buff control champ and I wanted one?

    What if with the next update to a champ takes their utility and doesn’t get the numbers right. This does not make the hood buff ok.
    I dont know what about the fateseal but i like the new hex pistols burst damage
    Can u KO cap marvel and then send the screenshot? He also has class advantage in that fight.
    5 min i will try
  • KRoNX1KRoNX1 Member Posts: 1,089 ★★★★
    KRoNX1 said:

    Agresssor said:

    Agresssor said:

    41 charges = 160k from 4/55


    Great, now what I’ve I don’t have a buff control champ and I wanted one?

    What if with the next update to a champ takes their utility and doesn’t get the numbers right. This does not make the hood buff ok.
    I dont know what about the fateseal but i like the new hex pistols burst damage
    Can u KO cap marvel and then send the screenshot? He also has class advantage in that fight. The number of bullets also play a mojor part in his usability . Why should someone use a damage champ for one fight when there r champs who have better damage and can be used in multiple fights.
    He was really good at doing wht he does but now his not viable for anything.
  • PulyamanPulyaman Member Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★
    its a little tricky managing the bullets. On a buff heavy matchup you could probably manage them easily. Winter soldier hardly procs any buffs so its going to be a hard time. One way is going invisible, taking some hits ghost style and then using them again. He was not a great option for low buff matches earlier, which he is slightly better now. All of his problems discussed earlier exist though by the removal of fate seal.
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,560 ★★★★★

    Agresssor said:


    Graves_3 said:

    Agresssor said:


    4/55 138k heavy attack with 28 hexs chargers + suicides mastery

    This is psylocke without suicides. How many people actually use psylocke?
    The damage doesn’t mean much when his utility has been stripped.

    Edit: just to clarify, I am not dissing on psylocke.
    Look at the number of hits
    The thing is though, after those 28 hits, you only have 2 bullets left. Honestly, I don’t think ROL is actually a good place to test him since most of the champs in there that have buffs are at the end other than Juggernaut. While yes, that was a nice burst, how sustainable was the new hex bullet mechanic? If it isn’t very sustainable then after 1 or 2 fights then you’re all out without a way to gain back a massive amount. Besides, as the other picture showed, Psylocke can get similar damage from her heavies albeit in more hits. The only thing is, I personally feel like after his update, Psylocke actually has more utility than Hood since she can power lock and shut down the opponent, while Hood can deal with some buffs. I don’t really think this makes much difference to him. Before he had great utility with mediocre damage, now it seems like he has some nice damage but little utility, so to me that’s not really an improvement.
    This is exactly what I was trying to highlight with the psylocke comparison.
  • Grim7787Grim7787 Member Posts: 73
    Ok, the dmg is actually pretty ridiculous, and it’s act

    Agresssor said:


    Graves_3 said:

    Agresssor said:


    4/55 138k heavy attack with 28 hexs chargers + suicides mastery

    This is psylocke without suicides. How many people actually use psylocke?
    The damage doesn’t mean much when his utility has been stripped.

    Edit: just to clarify, I am not dissing on psylocke.
    Look at the number of hits
    The thing is though, after those 28 hits, you only have 2 bullets left. Honestly, I don’t think ROL is actually a good place to test him since most of the champs in there that have buffs are at the end other than Juggernaut. While yes, that was a nice burst, how sustainable was the new hex bullet mechanic? If it isn’t very sustainable then after 1 or 2 fights then you’re all out without a way to gain back a massive amount. Besides, as the other picture showed, Psylocke can get similar damage from her heavies albeit in more hits. The only thing is, I personally feel like after his update, Psylocke actually has more utility than Hood since she can power lock and shut down the opponent, while Hood can deal with some buffs. I don’t really think this makes much difference to him. Before he had great utility with mediocre damage, now it seems like he has some nice damage but little utility, so to me that’s not really an improvement.
    The bullet thing is actually not true. you can get more with misses and nullifies. pics comin.
  • KRoNX1KRoNX1 Member Posts: 1,089 ★★★★
    I think the reason why they removed is becuz he can get a load of bullets by nullify it with fate seal.
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