Well, there is a "refresh champion" button. You refresh the boosted r3's and grind with them. You need only 3 6* and a ton of units. Does it make sense now?
Still that a bs Amun’s of unit for 6 star that 60 unit ever 3 so me wil be out of that
It sure is, but my 6* was about 2400 units in crystals without any quaranty getting him so...
I’m aware I’m just trying to enjoy the game and just grind milestone is esay for me then a champions then I’m rather get it when in the basice
For sure. Just Saw a video from a guy who placed 54 (with 147) claiming he spent 14k units in refresh 🙄
Anyway I grinded casual for 38m and got 1-5% which are a huge update in terms of shards.
I’ve got a fairly developed roster with 103 6*s, plenty at r3 and a lot of r5s. If I did take time off work to go for the featured grind I could definitely get top 100. But to me it’s no big deal for one simple reason. I value real life above anything game related. This is a time sink that would adversely impact my productivity, so to OP no need to feel bad. Just focus on IRL stuff that matter more.
Also, i do just enough in my own free time to grind all 16.5m point milestones without any stress. Maybe I’ll put up 21m to get top 10% for more 6* shards; that’ll go a long way for when I do pull for desirable champs in each new set of 6* featured crystals. I’m perfectly happy with my pace of progression and this should apply to the wider community as well. Just play the game and enjoy it without any needless stress or fatigue setting in. 😊
As predicted, my long comment got deleted on this thread. It was not off topic, it did not break any forum rules, yet it got deleted. Just because I was talking about how some people make the top 100 leaderboard.
This shows a lot about how Kabam would rather bury the truth and delete comments that talk about how people steal arena champs from others, LIKE NUMBER 26 ON THE SHANG CHI LEADERBOARD, than actually take a stance and ban these players. People are gonna get cheated out of the top 100, until the game company stops ignoring this.
What you are suggesting is a conspiracy on Kabam's part. Unless and otherwise kabam can confirm that the account has changed hands themselves, they cannot outright ban the account. We can chat in line, have videos in YouTube and have a discussion in discord about these things, but unless they can find it in game, they won't take action. That is the reason many people who have admitted to account sharing and mercing in YouTube have their accounts still active. That is also the reason they could not root out mercs in legend runs, they use vpn, use the same device and have so many ways of getting around detection.
As predicted, my long comment got deleted on this thread. It was not off topic, it did not break any forum rules, yet it got deleted. Just because I was talking about how some people make the top 100 leaderboard.
This shows a lot about how Kabam would rather bury the truth and delete comments that talk about how people steal arena champs from others, LIKE NUMBER 26 ON THE SHANG CHI LEADERBOARD, than actually take a stance and ban these players. People are gonna get cheated out of the top 100, until the game company stops ignoring this.
What you are suggesting is a conspiracy on Kabam's part. Unless and otherwise kabam can confirm that the account has changed hands themselves, they cannot outright ban the account. We can chat in line, have videos in YouTube and have a discussion in discord about these things, but unless they can find it in game, they won't take action. That is the reason many people who have admitted to account sharing and mercing in YouTube have their accounts still active. That is also the reason they could not root out mercs in legend runs, they use vpn, use the same device and have so many ways of getting around detection.
Funny thing is they did ban him for the 7.1 legend run attempt since his account went inactive for a week or so. Also this is the American guy who popped up on the European leaderboard in the Summoner Showdown. They know the history behind this account, they just don’t take action for the arenas, period. Never did, probably never will. I’ll be the first to say kudos to Kabam if they do actually ban these guys but I highly doubt it.
All my comments are gonna get deleted anyways so... Btw I know that I didn’t break any forum rules on the deleted comments since I did not get a forum warning/ban, indicating that it was just censored since clearly it was not off topic.
Do you have proof of them banning him for legends run? I have not seen anything like that. The switching between regions can easily be explained away as using VPN which is not against the TOS. How can you ban an account from arena unless you have proof that he is a bot? Lots of high tier players use mercs to grind for them and should be banned, but cannot be because there is no proof. I cannot comment on the comments getting deleted without getting a warning, so I am not going to go into that.
I dont get the complaint about people that spend money having a better roster and an advantage. Thats the way it should be lol if you are prepared to spend more money to improve your roster you should have it avaliable to use. NONE of us would be playing the game if nobody spent money
The cutoffs are fine as is IMO. You get to target any champ you want and if you miss out then you miss out because other players beat you with a higher score. We have never been able to target specific 6* before these new arenas. The cutoffs for good, new 6* champs is going to be ridiculously high.
IMO anyone who puts in that amount of time to grind for over 70mil pts deserves whatever champion their going for.
Nope, nope, nope
This game has NEVER been that way and it shouldn’t be that way. Arenas for characters and gear has always been Big Boy Territory, not for people who are gonna quit just because it gets tough
Anyone remember an older game called Avengers Alliance? Awesome game for what it was
But you want to talk about nasty, nasty Arena...my gosh. You had people — including me — who were setting up combinations of teams that were absolutely lethal. The meta would shift just like that
I got the featured in that game only a handful of times. You lose one match and you could drop 30, 40 slots...and it was impossible to win them all, unlike this game
I feel bad for the OP but people have to learn that sometimes, just because you want something doesn’t mean you’re gonna get it
I dont think you guys are getting the message here. The fact that you need more than 115 million points in these arenas for the 6* is just freaking ridiculous. This is fundamentally flawed. This is major spending territory. Huge cash dump. Something needs to change
I know quite a few people that came top 100 with minimal unit spend just a ton of time grinding. What's the solution? Tell everyone to please not go past 100 million? As long as it's top 100 players will push as high as they can to make it.
As if it would be “too much” to remove leaderboard altogether and just give the champs at milestones.
80 million points - new 5* 100 million points - new 6*
Those that can grind the 100 million for “free” will be thankful they won’t miss. Those that have to spend at least get a guaranteed new champion.
Pinning people against each other just creates a toxic community. It’s not needed, arenas boast no skills required. Only time and money.
Edit: I wouldn’t be opposed to kabam changing the milestone points as roster grow the points will be easier to obtain.
You do understand how the entire core concept of this game works? Pinning people against each other creates a healthy community. It’s really more encouraging spirited competition.
This game doesn’t work if everyone wins a trophy. You have to be better/ higher than someone else or else what is the point of spending?
If that happens we are just playing street fighter at that point. I thought about having milestones in arena for a 5* champ, but it can’t happen.
Effort does not = Reward
This could happen if champions weren’t such a strong factor within game. Maybe when they introduce relics that is something you can put in milestone.
Grinded 115 million in 6 star arena...thanks for helping me decide to quit this game. It's obvious that arenas are solely made for those with the biggest rosters now. There's no way in hell that ANYONE should grind up 115 million points over a weekend and miss the cutoff for a 6 star. That's way too much time and effort placed for a 5 star. I'm a spender in this game whose roster of 6 stars is just under 40 champs, so there's no way for guys like me to compete with guys with over 100 6 stars. Grinding for these 6 stars would be the only way to try increase that pool. After this weekends grind, I realize that's no longer possible as I do not see myself wanting to grind for over 100 million+ points again. Thanks Kabam. You've lost another paying customer from your player base.
You should have waited for the first arena result and then planned for the second arena. This the first time 6 star arenas released so no one can predict the points.
As if it would be “too much” to remove leaderboard altogether and just give the champs at milestones.
80 million points - new 5* 100 million points - new 6*
Those that can grind the 100 million for “free” will be thankful they won’t miss. Those that have to spend at least get a guaranteed new champion.
Pinning people against each other just creates a toxic community. It’s not needed, arenas boast no skills required. Only time and money.
Edit: I wouldn’t be opposed to kabam changing the milestone points as roster grow the points will be easier to obtain.
You do understand how the entire core concept of this game works? Pinning people against each other creates a healthy community. It’s really more encouraging spirited competition.
This game doesn’t work if everyone wins a trophy. You have to be better/ higher than someone else or else what is the point of spending?
If that happens we are just playing street fighter at that point. I thought about having milestones in arena for a 5* champ, but it can’t happen.
Effort does not = Reward
This could happen if champions weren’t such a strong factor within game. Maybe when they introduce relics that is something you can put in milestone.
Not in arenas. The game works this way everywhere else, it doesn’t have to apply in arenas. This isn’t an actual player vs player section of the game. It’s a fake PVP, there isn’t a trophy for arena wins except the titles. Eventually the champions all enter the basic crystal and will be available. Hence not a trophy as you would like to see it as. Reality dictates it’s just kabam feeding addictions and abusing people. If you are okay with that, then your argument makes sense.
Making a push for champions to be in the milestones is an obvious sign from kabam that they also see it this way. Unfortunately they still want to make money. Arena is a pit of money, the unknown to the player base = gambling. Even if they aren’t spending they are gambling their points are sufficient for what they want. It causes undue stress and excessive spending. As others have stated it’s smarter to spend on feature runs then cavalier crystals. Leading to more of a gap in the leaderboards.
Damn. Sucks man, but yeah 6* arena is a little absurd when it comes to points. Think everyone is missing the fact he is trying to expand his 6* roster so he is grinding in the arena. But i think you should have went for the basic champ in that case, before going for the featured champ.
I don’t see how making the champ a milestone is that bad. Yeah it becomes guaranteed which makes it a “trophy prize”, but that shouldn’t be a bad thing. This isn’t the real world and we aren’t children in need of learning the lesson that not everyone can or is a winner.The amount of time spent to get these champs in insane and nearly all content released ever has guaranteed rewards except Aq,Aw, and arena. Don’t mind a heavy grind as long as the reward is near or equals said grind. Maybe if the arena didn’t have so many mercs/bots we could talk about another solution, but here we are. They can make the milestone really high if needed to offset the change.No one should have to wait 3 days to see where is a good spot to stop grinding for the next round in the first place. Heck, with Mtrucos and ArenaResultsKnight they might as well just post the scores themselves.
Is there a reason why there can't just be two more milestones:
40 million: the 5 star champion 80 million: the 6 star champion
I'll leave it to the "experts" as to whether these scores are too high or too low... but there is something to be said about making it a milestone / guarantee, rather than rage quitting from getting just a little short.
Maybe if the game lasts long enough, we will see 5-stars as a milestone. There once was a time when a 4-star being a milestone was unthinkable, so it could happen
But right now, 5-stars are still at a power level that can clear almost all content, though 6-stars are where Act 7 is geared
I think there's a chance 5-stars might be milestones one day, but I don't think it's gonna be soon
As if it would be “too much” to remove leaderboard altogether and just give the champs at milestones.
80 million points - new 5* 100 million points - new 6*
Those that can grind the 100 million for “free” will be thankful they won’t miss. Those that have to spend at least get a guaranteed new champion.
Pinning people against each other just creates a toxic community. It’s not needed, arenas boast no skills required. Only time and money.
Edit: I wouldn’t be opposed to kabam changing the milestone points as roster grow the points will be easier to obtain.
You do understand how the entire core concept of this game works? Pinning people against each other creates a healthy community. It’s really more encouraging spirited competition.
This game doesn’t work if everyone wins a trophy. You have to be better/ higher than someone else or else what is the point of spending?
If that happens we are just playing street fighter at that point. I thought about having milestones in arena for a 5* champ, but it can’t happen.
Effort does not = Reward
This could happen if champions weren’t such a strong factor within game. Maybe when they introduce relics that is something you can put in milestone.
Not in arenas. The game works this way everywhere else, it doesn’t have to apply in arenas. This isn’t an actual player vs player section of the game. It’s a fake PVP, there isn’t a trophy for arena wins except the titles. Eventually the champions all enter the basic crystal and will be available. Hence not a trophy as you would like to see it as. Reality dictates it’s just kabam feeding addictions and abusing people. If you are okay with that, then your argument makes sense.
Making a push for champions to be in the milestones is an obvious sign from kabam that they also see it this way. Unfortunately they still want to make money. Arena is a pit of money, the unknown to the player base = gambling. Even if they aren’t spending they are gambling their points are sufficient for what they want. It causes undue stress and excessive spending. As others have stated it’s smarter to spend on feature runs then cavalier crystals. Leading to more of a gap in the leaderboards.
Nah, I don’t accept your argument. Try again.
It is not an "argument" it is the simple truth of how Kabam sees champion acquisition. Not only is it trivially easy to deduce from how the game has always been managed, its also been confirmed explicitly by Kabam in interviews. Chasing champions is one of the fundamentals of the game, and that chase has tiers. At this point in the game, putting 3* and 4* champions in milestones is reasonable because they are no longer the top pursuit items, and even there you can see that the basic champion is put in relatively low milestones but the featured is put in much higher milestones. The idea being that players who have already progressed to the point where their rosters have almost certainly outgrown 3* and 4* champions as pursuit items have an easy time getting them. For players that are still on the hunt for those rarity tiers, trying to get the newest champs still takes huge effort. it takes much less effort to get them months later when they aren't the new champs anymore. Even for 3* and 4* champs, Kabam still balances milestones based on the notion that chasing specific targets should be very hard, when those rarities are still relevant.
The very highest rarity tiers are still top pursuit items, and thus the ability for players to target them is much more strictly limited. That's why there's a 5* dual class crystal, but not a 6* one. That's why specifically targeting 5* and 6* champs is still a competition, not a milestone, in the arena.
Because this is fundamental to the game, this applies everywhere. It affects how Kabam designs crystals, game modes, even cash offers. Targeting champs is always going to be harder than random acquisition, and the higher rarities are always going to be harder and more expensive than the lower ones, and there will always be at least one top tier champion rarity that is extremely difficult to target. Not only has it always been this way, it has also been something that Kabam has all but stated is not even on the table to change. They can soften things around the edges over time, but there is no way, literally no way Kabam will be giving out the 6* champs as milestones as long as 6* champs are the highest rarity champ.
I'm saying this as a statement of fact, not a guess. If you start an argument with "I think the 6* champ should be given out as a milestone" the devs aren't going to read past that word to even find out what that milestone is. Whatever it is, the answer would be no, it would imply you don't understand the fundamentals of the game the devs have to work with, and there'd be no point in continuing to read the rest.
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Anyway I grinded casual for 38m and got 1-5% which are a huge update in terms of shards.
Also, i do just enough in my own free time to grind all 16.5m point milestones without any stress. Maybe I’ll put up 21m to get top 10% for more 6* shards; that’ll go a long way for when I do pull for desirable champs in each new set of 6* featured crystals. I’m perfectly happy with my pace of progression and this should apply to the wider community as well. Just play the game and enjoy it without any needless stress or fatigue setting in. 😊
I cannot comment on the comments getting deleted without getting a warning, so I am not going to go into that.
This game has NEVER been that way and it shouldn’t be that way. Arenas for characters and gear has always been Big Boy Territory, not for people who are gonna quit just because it gets tough
Anyone remember an older game called Avengers Alliance? Awesome game for what it was
But you want to talk about nasty, nasty Arena...my gosh. You had people — including me — who were setting up combinations of teams that were absolutely lethal. The meta would shift just like that
I got the featured in that game only a handful of times. You lose one match and you could drop 30, 40 slots...and it was impossible to win them all, unlike this game
I feel bad for the OP but people have to learn that sometimes, just because you want something doesn’t mean you’re gonna get it
That’s life
80 million points - new 5*
100 million points - new 6*
Those that can grind the 100 million for “free” will be thankful they won’t miss. Those that have to spend at least get a guaranteed new champion.
Pinning people against each other just creates a toxic community. It’s not needed, arenas boast no skills required. Only time and money.
Edit: I wouldn’t be opposed to kabam changing the milestone points as roster grow the points will be easier to obtain.
2) y’all are giving the OP a lot of grief when they have a point
3) but I do agree with @Demonzfyre....I’d rather just gamble on cavs than lose my mind in arena.
This game doesn’t work if everyone wins a trophy. You have to be better/ higher than someone else or else what is the point of spending?
If that happens we are just playing street fighter at that point. I thought about having milestones in arena for a 5* champ, but it can’t happen.
Effort does not = Reward
This could happen if champions weren’t such a strong factor within game. Maybe when they introduce relics that is something you can put in milestone.
Making a push for champions to be in the milestones is an obvious sign from kabam that they also see it this way. Unfortunately they still want to make money. Arena is a pit of money, the unknown to the player base = gambling. Even if they aren’t spending they are gambling their points are sufficient for what they want. It causes undue stress and excessive spending. As others have stated it’s smarter to spend on feature runs then cavalier crystals. Leading to more of a gap in the leaderboards.
Nah, I don’t accept your argument. Try again.
At some point, people have to answer this question: You can grind for Units as milestones. You can grind for Battlechips which drop Units.
You can use those Units to open Crystals.
Let's say you do that. You grinded out 900 Units, opened three Featureds, got 6-star Shang-Chi.
If you do that and get the Featured, costing you only time spent grinding the Units, how, exactly, does Kabam earn revenue?
Developing the game isn't free. There are people who will get the character without spending a dime.
But at some point, that cannot be "everyone who hits a milestone."
We can go back and forth about a lot of things, but Kabam can't just give new characters away. They can't just give 6-stars away.
There has to be a cost and a cutoff, because some people, through RNG, will get the character and not spend a penny
40 million: the 5 star champion
80 million: the 6 star champion
I'll leave it to the "experts" as to whether these scores are too high or too low... but there is something to be said about making it a milestone / guarantee, rather than rage quitting from getting just a little short.
But right now, 5-stars are still at a power level that can clear almost all content, though 6-stars are where Act 7 is geared
I think there's a chance 5-stars might be milestones one day, but I don't think it's gonna be soon
The very highest rarity tiers are still top pursuit items, and thus the ability for players to target them is much more strictly limited. That's why there's a 5* dual class crystal, but not a 6* one. That's why specifically targeting 5* and 6* champs is still a competition, not a milestone, in the arena.
Because this is fundamental to the game, this applies everywhere. It affects how Kabam designs crystals, game modes, even cash offers. Targeting champs is always going to be harder than random acquisition, and the higher rarities are always going to be harder and more expensive than the lower ones, and there will always be at least one top tier champion rarity that is extremely difficult to target. Not only has it always been this way, it has also been something that Kabam has all but stated is not even on the table to change. They can soften things around the edges over time, but there is no way, literally no way Kabam will be giving out the 6* champs as milestones as long as 6* champs are the highest rarity champ.
I'm saying this as a statement of fact, not a guess. If you start an argument with "I think the 6* champ should be given out as a milestone" the devs aren't going to read past that word to even find out what that milestone is. Whatever it is, the answer would be no, it would imply you don't understand the fundamentals of the game the devs have to work with, and there'd be no point in continuing to read the rest.