Alliance Wars Season 33 Changelog, Rewards Update, Loyalty Store and Glory Store Updates!

Cpt_Awesomeo55 · March 2022

The change to pots is terrible. If it stands it will probably drive me out of my alliance. I can't afford to maintain the number of pots I need for war. A very disgusting and greedy move.

Jay_duped1 · March 2022

You guys need to change this change to the glory store selection back to how it was when it comes to the potions. This is a horrible decisions. Who was the incompetent person who came with this idea. Even the slightest though I had to spend my hard earned money in this game just went out the window. You guys need to get it together or myself and many others will quit this game and if we don’t Wait we will at the very least boycott any deals you guys bring to the table no matter the event.

GroundedWisdom · March 2022

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:
Think its time to nerf the competitive aspect of AW. Is unnecessary with the introduction of BattleGrounds as well.

Make it a casual game mode.

War is literally a competition.

Master_Dan_1000 · March 2022

Not posted for ages, but this will really affect high tier alliance war unless the costs are reduced or the amount of loyalty increased dramatically. I play in a tier 1 alliance and several members are already making noise about leaving unless this is changed.

Forward · March 2022

What a terrible change. Can't imagine you guys actually thought that would go over well lol. Health potions have been a joke for a long time and need to be % based as of 3+ years ago. Instead we get a step back. Brilliant!

nolcuN · March 2022

I doubt the AW pot change was neither unintended or erroneous. I am already excited to see how this is playing out.

TyEdge · March 2022

thepiggy said:
Put the AW potions back in the glory store, make them generic alliance potions, change the size to 14k and charge 260 glory. It's not 2017 anymore, we can't run your r3/4 6*s without iteming out.

Does anyone at Kabam in charge of this actually play alliance war? I'm serious, because whoever signed off on this doesn't.

If I did high tier war I’d be furious. With that said, this should be a chance for alliances to recenter their expectations and requirements. It’s ridiculous that this game mode normalizes full boosts and healing every fight. Instead of complaining to change it back, it’d be great if war spending decreased and most rankings (never all, I understand) were determined more by skill and less by resource consumption.

Eb0ny-O-M4w · March 2022

GroundedWisdom said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:
Think its time to nerf the competitive aspect of AW. Is unnecessary with the introduction of BattleGrounds as well.

Make it a casual game mode.
War is literally a competition.

If it wasn't I wouldn't say to make it a casual game mode.

If people are so reliant on potions then clearly something is wrong with it. It just goes all back to the "whoever is able to spend most money on it wins" meta. Would be much easier to fix the problem by its base

Mauled · March 2022

Lol, is this actually just April fools 24 hours early?

The only potion update I expected from Kabam was an increase in their potency and if we were lucky a decrease in their cost. Removing them from the store has to all intents and purposes made AW a unit-driven game mode, at least at the top end where many of us already spend a sizeable chunk of our units on boost packs anyway.

If this is a sign that the compensation packages are permanent that’s some salve to the wound but it’s not exactly a solution.

For a sizeable part of the community AW is the main reason we play and rank up champions. For me, AQ is a means to an end - winning in AW. At present content feeds AW, not the other way around. I’ve finished 7.4, the only place my R4 Prof X really matters right now is AW. Not arena, not AQ where dying doesn’t matter, AW where every hit point counts.

Scopeotoe987 · March 2022

Silver rewards still don’t feel worth the effort, can we get allowed to ban champions down here aswell? Would help add spice back in AW for the lower brackets.

Glory store update is great tho

Worknprogress · March 2022

TyEdge said:

thepiggy said:
Put the AW potions back in the glory store, make them generic alliance potions, change the size to 14k and charge 260 glory. It's not 2017 anymore, we can't run your r3/4 6*s without iteming out.

Does anyone at Kabam in charge of this actually play alliance war? I'm serious, because whoever signed off on this doesn't.
If I did high tier war I’d be furious. With that said, this should be a chance for alliances to recenter their expectations and requirements. It’s ridiculous that this game mode normalizes full boosts and healing every fight. Instead of complaining to change it back, it’d be great if war spending decreased and most rankings (never all, I understand) were determined more by skill and less by resource consumption.

This would be a relevant point if they were removing the ability to get those same items for units. They have not. They will not and we all know this. All this does is take a game mode people complained was p2w (it hasn't been btw, none of the top 3 AW alliances this season are in the top 10 or I think even 20 AQ now. With at least 2 outside the 30), and make it so that the only people that can sustain the mode are the heavy spenders.

Worknprogress · March 2022

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:
Think its time to nerf the competitive aspect of AW. Is unnecessary with the introduction of BattleGrounds as well.

Make it a casual game mode.
War is literally a competition.
If it wasn't I wouldn't say to make it a casual game mode.

If people are so reliant on potions then clearly something is wrong with it. It just goes all back to the "whoever is able to spend most money on it wins" meta. Would be much easier to fix the problem by its base

Yeah, none of the top 3 alliances this season "spend the most". This is the dumbest oldest trope that's continually spouted by people that don't even have the slightest but of experience with AW competitively

FiiNCH · March 2022

Worknprogress said:

TyEdge said:

thepiggy said:
Put the AW potions back in the glory store, make them generic alliance potions, change the size to 14k and charge 260 glory. It's not 2017 anymore, we can't run your r3/4 6*s without iteming out.

Does anyone at Kabam in charge of this actually play alliance war? I'm serious, because whoever signed off on this doesn't.
If I did high tier war I’d be furious. With that said, this should be a chance for alliances to recenter their expectations and requirements. It’s ridiculous that this game mode normalizes full boosts and healing every fight. Instead of complaining to change it back, it’d be great if war spending decreased and most rankings (never all, I understand) were determined more by skill and less by resource consumption.
This would be a relevant point if they were removing the ability to get those same items for units. They have not. They will not and we all know this. All this does is take a game mode people complained was p2w (it hasn't been btw, none of the top 3 AW alliances this season are in the top 10 or I think even 20 AQ now. With at least 2 outside the 30), and make it so that the only people that can sustain the mode are the heavy spenders.

Bet you wish you didn’t come out of retirement now

Worknprogress · March 2022

GT40 on a roster/spend comparison to most other T1 alliances is WAAAAYYYYY behind. They've placed 1st 3 seasons in a row. Sounds super p2w

Eb0ny-O-M4w · March 2022

Worknprogress said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:
Think its time to nerf the competitive aspect of AW. Is unnecessary with the introduction of BattleGrounds as well.

Make it a casual game mode.
War is literally a competition.
If it wasn't I wouldn't say to make it a casual game mode.

If people are so reliant on potions then clearly something is wrong with it. It just goes all back to the "whoever is able to spend most money on it wins" meta. Would be much easier to fix the problem by its base
Yeah, none of the top 3 alliances this season "spend the most". This is the dumbest oldest trope that's continually spouted by people that don't even have the slightest but of experience with AW competitively

Top alliances spend. That should be a fact by now.

Mind as well remove the whole potion system from AW so that everyone gets no right to use items

Worknprogress · March 2022

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

Worknprogress said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:
Think its time to nerf the competitive aspect of AW. Is unnecessary with the introduction of BattleGrounds as well.

Make it a casual game mode.
War is literally a competition.
If it wasn't I wouldn't say to make it a casual game mode.

If people are so reliant on potions then clearly something is wrong with it. It just goes all back to the "whoever is able to spend most money on it wins" meta. Would be much easier to fix the problem by its base
Yeah, none of the top 3 alliances this season "spend the most". This is the dumbest oldest trope that's continually spouted by people that don't even have the slightest but of experience with AW competitively
Top alliances spend. That should be a fact by now.

Mind as well remove the whole potion system from AW so that everyone gets no right to use items

Cool story talking about alliances you know absolutely nothing about.

Mauled · March 2022

Worknprogress said:

TyEdge said:

thepiggy said:
Put the AW potions back in the glory store, make them generic alliance potions, change the size to 14k and charge 260 glory. It's not 2017 anymore, we can't run your r3/4 6*s without iteming out.

Does anyone at Kabam in charge of this actually play alliance war? I'm serious, because whoever signed off on this doesn't.
If I did high tier war I’d be furious. With that said, this should be a chance for alliances to recenter their expectations and requirements. It’s ridiculous that this game mode normalizes full boosts and healing every fight. Instead of complaining to change it back, it’d be great if war spending decreased and most rankings (never all, I understand) were determined more by skill and less by resource consumption.
This would be a relevant point if they were removing the ability to get those same items for units. They have not. They will not and we all know this. All this does is take a game mode people complained was p2w (it hasn't been btw, none of the top 3 AW alliances this season are in the top 10 or I think even 20 AQ now. With at least 2 outside the 30), and make it so that the only people that can sustain the mode are the heavy spenders.

What this’ll do is make people like me be able to push AW every other season - stock up comp packages until expiry and slowly work through them across a season - or put all my arena grinding into AW.

A superbly poor piece of judgment

FiiNCH · March 2022

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

Worknprogress said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:
Think its time to nerf the competitive aspect of AW. Is unnecessary with the introduction of BattleGrounds as well.

Make it a casual game mode.
War is literally a competition.
If it wasn't I wouldn't say to make it a casual game mode.

If people are so reliant on potions then clearly something is wrong with it. It just goes all back to the "whoever is able to spend most money on it wins" meta. Would be much easier to fix the problem by its base
Yeah, none of the top 3 alliances this season "spend the most". This is the dumbest oldest trope that's continually spouted by people that don't even have the slightest but of experience with AW competitively
Top alliances spend. That should be a fact by now.

Mind as well remove the whole potion system from AW so that everyone gets no right to use items

That would kill the game mode, especially considering we have defence tactics like high ground.

Worknprogress · March 2022

@Agent_X_zzz welcome to the whale club apparently

Worknprogress · March 2022

FiiNCH said:

Worknprogress said:

TyEdge said:

thepiggy said:
Put the AW potions back in the glory store, make them generic alliance potions, change the size to 14k and charge 260 glory. It's not 2017 anymore, we can't run your r3/4 6*s without iteming out.

Does anyone at Kabam in charge of this actually play alliance war? I'm serious, because whoever signed off on this doesn't.
If I did high tier war I’d be furious. With that said, this should be a chance for alliances to recenter their expectations and requirements. It’s ridiculous that this game mode normalizes full boosts and healing every fight. Instead of complaining to change it back, it’d be great if war spending decreased and most rankings (never all, I understand) were determined more by skill and less by resource consumption.
This would be a relevant point if they were removing the ability to get those same items for units. They have not. They will not and we all know this. All this does is take a game mode people complained was p2w (it hasn't been btw, none of the top 3 AW alliances this season are in the top 10 or I think even 20 AQ now. With at least 2 outside the 30), and make it so that the only people that can sustain the mode are the heavy spenders.
Bet you wish you didn’t come out of retirement now

Not at all

AverageDesi · March 2022

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

Worknprogress said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:
Think its time to nerf the competitive aspect of AW. Is unnecessary with the introduction of BattleGrounds as well.

Make it a casual game mode.
War is literally a competition.
If it wasn't I wouldn't say to make it a casual game mode.

If people are so reliant on potions then clearly something is wrong with it. It just goes all back to the "whoever is able to spend most money on it wins" meta. Would be much easier to fix the problem by its base
Yeah, none of the top 3 alliances this season "spend the most". This is the dumbest oldest trope that's continually spouted by people that don't even have the slightest but of experience with AW competitively
Top alliances spend. That should be a fact by now.

Mind as well remove the whole potion system from AW so that everyone gets no right to use items

No potions would mean people with the most healthpool and attack ie. R4s will get a massive advantage. Isnt that agaisnt your whole principle or something?

Mobile_P0tat0 · March 2022

I can only buy 2 potions every 3 wars, I guess I'll use my units to heal in aw... said no one ever

BitterSteel · March 2022

Worknprogress said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:
Think its time to nerf the competitive aspect of AW. Is unnecessary with the introduction of BattleGrounds as well.

Make it a casual game mode.
War is literally a competition.
If it wasn't I wouldn't say to make it a casual game mode.

If people are so reliant on potions then clearly something is wrong with it. It just goes all back to the "whoever is able to spend most money on it wins" meta. Would be much easier to fix the problem by its base
Yeah, none of the top 3 alliances this season "spend the most". This is the dumbest oldest trope that's continually spouted by people that don't even have the slightest but of experience with AW competitively

Exactly, I’m not in them but I’ve spoken to plenty who are. The amount of skill and organisation that goes into planning out and taking each fight with almost 0 deaths cannot be bought. You need to be skilled and it needs to be planned.

Not everything is P2W just because there’s a leaderboard.

Lawrenceo96 · March 2022

@Kabam Miike come on man really it’s give and take, good release of 7.4, even buffed rewards for aq and aw then the guillotine to the leg with the potions, not all your player base are heavy spenders, cater to all sides not just your elite class of spenders.

FiiNCH · March 2022

BitterSteel said:

Worknprogress said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:
Think its time to nerf the competitive aspect of AW. Is unnecessary with the introduction of BattleGrounds as well.

Make it a casual game mode.
War is literally a competition.
If it wasn't I wouldn't say to make it a casual game mode.

If people are so reliant on potions then clearly something is wrong with it. It just goes all back to the "whoever is able to spend most money on it wins" meta. Would be much easier to fix the problem by its base
Yeah, none of the top 3 alliances this season "spend the most". This is the dumbest oldest trope that's continually spouted by people that don't even have the slightest but of experience with AW competitively
Exactly, I’m not in them but I’ve spoken to plenty who are. The amount of skill and organisation that goes into planning out and taking each fight with almost 0 deaths cannot be bought. You need to be skilled and it needs to be planned.

Not everything is P2W just because there’s a leaderboard.

If anything, this change will mean even more planning for officers, and place a bigger reliance on having 10 active people to support with mini’s/boss.

Worknprogress · March 2022

FiiNCH said:

BitterSteel said:

Worknprogress said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:
Think its time to nerf the competitive aspect of AW. Is unnecessary with the introduction of BattleGrounds as well.

Make it a casual game mode.
War is literally a competition.
If it wasn't I wouldn't say to make it a casual game mode.

If people are so reliant on potions then clearly something is wrong with it. It just goes all back to the "whoever is able to spend most money on it wins" meta. Would be much easier to fix the problem by its base
Yeah, none of the top 3 alliances this season "spend the most". This is the dumbest oldest trope that's continually spouted by people that don't even have the slightest but of experience with AW competitively
Exactly, I’m not in them but I’ve spoken to plenty who are. The amount of skill and organisation that goes into planning out and taking each fight with almost 0 deaths cannot be bought. You need to be skilled and it needs to be planned.

Not everything is P2W just because there’s a leaderboard.
If anything, this change will mean even more planning for officers, and place a bigger reliance on having 10 active people to support with mini’s/boss.

No, people will just stop playing unless they can/want to spend to finish maps. Already loads of people from T1 that have said they'll just quit AW

FiiNCH · March 2022

Worknprogress said:

FiiNCH said:

BitterSteel said:

Worknprogress said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:
Think its time to nerf the competitive aspect of AW. Is unnecessary with the introduction of BattleGrounds as well.

Make it a casual game mode.
War is literally a competition.
If it wasn't I wouldn't say to make it a casual game mode.

If people are so reliant on potions then clearly something is wrong with it. It just goes all back to the "whoever is able to spend most money on it wins" meta. Would be much easier to fix the problem by its base
Yeah, none of the top 3 alliances this season "spend the most". This is the dumbest oldest trope that's continually spouted by people that don't even have the slightest but of experience with AW competitively
Exactly, I’m not in them but I’ve spoken to plenty who are. The amount of skill and organisation that goes into planning out and taking each fight with almost 0 deaths cannot be bought. You need to be skilled and it needs to be planned.

Not everything is P2W just because there’s a leaderboard.
If anything, this change will mean even more planning for officers, and place a bigger reliance on having 10 active people to support with mini’s/boss.
No, people will just stop playing unless they can/want to spend to finish maps. Already loads of people from T1 that have said they'll just quit AW

Absolutely, that’s the reality here.

I’m an officer in a tier 4 alliance, and I’m seeing the same response.

Chatterofforums · March 2022

I'm shocked so many of you are surprised. Kabam been doing subtle changes like this to encourage spending in AW in competitive alliances for many years (which is why I retired from competitive AW years ago).

Alliance Wars Season 33 Changelog, Rewards Update, Loyalty Store and Glory Store Updates!

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