As I imagine, the compensation will be progression based most likely. But my question is, will it cap out at Paragon or Thronebreaker when it comes to the highest point of the compensation?
I can’t see why it wouldn’t cap out at Paragon. Some players have had 3 r4s for half a year now.
It shouldn't though. It should cap at thronebreaker since paragon came out around the time they said the issues were "fixed"
We're happy to report that our larger, one-time compensation package is nearing completion. It's something we've stated we're hesitant to disclose more information about until our details are set in stone.
We've been told we will have more information to share with you soon but can say it is likely to be out before July!
Thank you @Kabam Miike respond with details on the One-Time Compensation package.
However reading from the OP, I believe they were asking about the monthly compensation as the problem with the Input is still ongoing.
For myself, I'm actually more interest to know, what is Kabam planning going forward regarding this Input system, because :-
1) the input still have a massive problem and not just on timed input, it is even on block, dash and heavy, which are not timed related input.
2) Based on your other reply about AI, the Input may also affected AI as well, which again is a massive problem for players right.
It is all great to get a Big compensation, but this is a game based on precision control, so if input is not working, which is the foundation of the game, then the rest mean very little.
Hope we will get some proper update respond from Kabam.
As I imagine, the compensation will be progression based most likely. But my question is, will it cap out at Paragon or Thronebreaker when it comes to the highest point of the compensation?
I can’t see why it wouldn’t cap out at Paragon. Some players have had 3 r4s for half a year now.
It shouldn't though. It should cap at thronebreaker since paragon came out around the time they said the issues were "fixed"
But where do you join the line?
By that standard, I’m a true thronebreaker, as I already was when the problems started.
What about someone who only made TB this week? Surely they should only get cav comp as presumably they were mostly tackling cav content? Surely at least, I should get more than them?
What about someone who started the game at cyber Monday and whaled their way to Paragon? Should they get conqueror, UC, Cav or TB… or paragon?
Wouldn’t people who paid or grinded their way to paragon, possibly precisely for better comp. be annoyed?
That's different we are talking about titles that have already been out and where out during the issue. This new title didn't come out till right before they said the issue was done. If paragon came put earlier when these issues happened, I'd have a different stance. But this title didn't do that. They announced the title then announced the game fixed. The title itself is still only a month or so old. So people who were dealing with the issues and still are, were capped at thronebreaker titles and could choose to reach that cap if they wanted to.
Go to that post to get a rough idea of when the big compensation will drop. I'd be surprised if we got it while EOP was still running, but now only time will tell.
We're happy to report that our larger, one-time compensation package is nearing completion. It's something we've stated we're hesitant to disclose more information about until our details are set in stone.
We've been told we will have more information to share with you soon but can say it is likely to be out before July!
I hope it is not going to be different compensation for Paragon vs ThronBreakers because this broken input issue started long time ago, much before you introduced the new title
We're happy to report that our larger, one-time compensation package is nearing completion. It's something we've stated we're hesitant to disclose more information about until our details are set in stone.
We've been told we will have more information to share with you soon but can say it is likely to be out before July!
before july sounds good, but july of what year? don't try and pull a fast one on us, mikey boy
That’s a silly question. We both know it’s the year 20–
As I imagine, the compensation will be progression based most likely. But my question is, will it cap out at Paragon or Thronebreaker when it comes to the highest point of the compensation?
I can’t see why it wouldn’t cap out at Paragon. Some players have had 3 r4s for half a year now.
It shouldn't though. It should cap at thronebreaker since paragon came out around the time they said the issues were "fixed"
The whole point of having progression tiers is to differentiate rewards, sales, gifts, etc so they are equally relevant, or as close, to as possible.
ie. Giving 10k shards to a proven player would be ridiculously amazing, whereas it would be great for uncollected, and very meh to a cav player. The value of 10k shards are valued differently, so giving 10k to each group is actually not fair, as they are giving better compensation to proven than cav.
What "wows" current thronebreakers aren't going to "wow" current Paragon players.
Giving the same comp to both groups means that paragon players are actually getting less.
I remember one of the mods said the info of the comp package would be shared by the end of May. Anyone else recalled this?
i have no recollection of this. depending on how old it is, it might be outdated and they could've revised it since then. but definitely would like a screenshot or link of that if you can find it.
Very hard to find but I stand strong for what I say, it was Miike's comment in the beginning of May saying the team would disclose the INFO of the package by the end of this month. It should be in one of the compensation threads asking why no big compensation when there's no longer a weekly comp. But it is like 946543 threads like that now, I wouldnt want to waste my time looking for that specific comment. Btw, I'm not in a rush for a big comp. It comes when it comes.
As I imagine, the compensation will be progression based most likely. But my question is, will it cap out at Paragon or Thronebreaker when it comes to the highest point of the compensation?
I can’t see why it wouldn’t cap out at Paragon. Some players have had 3 r4s for half a year now.
It shouldn't though. It should cap at thronebreaker since paragon came out around the time they said the issues were "fixed"
The whole point of having progression tiers is to differentiate rewards, sales, gifts, etc so they are equally relevant, or as close, to as possible.
ie. Giving 10k shards to a proven player would be ridiculously amazing, whereas it would be great for uncollected, and very meh to a cav player. The value of 10k shards are valued differently, so giving 10k to each group is actually not fair, as they are giving better compensation to proven than cav.
What "wows" current thronebreakers aren't going to "wow" current Paragon players.
Giving the same comp to both groups means that paragon players are actually getting less.
The important difference is that there are not as many paragon players since the title has been active for only a month or less. And thronebreaker includes players who include brand new TB’s all the way to those who have explored about everything and are missing a few fragments to get their 3rd r4. If the paragon title existed when input issues were rampant and many players had the opportunity to get to paragon, your argument would hold some sway. And also people only became paragon after kabam claimed input issues were resolved and announced compensation was coming to an end. Not before.
We're happy to report that our larger, one-time compensation package is nearing completion. It's something we've stated we're hesitant to disclose more information about until our details are set in stone.
We've been told we will have more information to share with you soon but can say it is likely to be out before July!
We're happy to report that our larger, one-time compensation package is nearing completion. It's something we've stated we're hesitant to disclose more information about until our details are set in stone.
We've been told we will have more information to share with you soon but can say it is likely to be out before July!
Thanks Miike. Despite plenty of the evidence to the contrary posted above, I suspect that 99% of us are happy to wait.
@Graves_3 The important difference is that there are not as many paragon players since the title has been active for only a month or less. And thronebreaker includes players who include brand new TB’s all the way to those who have explored about everything and are missing a few fragments to get their 3rd r4. If the paragon title existed when input issues were rampant and many players had the opportunity to get to paragon, your argument would hold some sway. And also people only became paragon after kabam claimed input issues were resolved and announced compensation was coming to an end. Not before.
Lol you're making my point for me. Thronebreaker includes ppl w only a handful of 6* champs and 1 r3. Why would the compensation be the same as someone who has nearly every 6* champ, a plethora of r3s, many at maxed sigs, and at least 3 r4s. How do you compensate both groups in a manner that is equal.
Side note: Paragon players tend to include the big spenders, so why wouldn't Kabam cater to this group?
@Graves_3 The important difference is that there are not as many paragon players since the title has been active for only a month or less. And thronebreaker includes players who include brand new TB’s all the way to those who have explored about everything and are missing a few fragments to get their 3rd r4. If the paragon title existed when input issues were rampant and many players had the opportunity to get to paragon, your argument would hold some sway. And also people only became paragon after kabam claimed input issues were resolved and announced compensation was coming to an end. Not before.
Lol you're making my point for me. Thronebreaker includes ppl w only a handful of 6* champs and 1 r3. Why would the compensation be the same as someone who has nearly every 6* champ, a plethora of r3s, many at maxed sigs, and at least 3 r4s. How do you compensate both groups in a manner that is equal.
Side note: Paragon players tend to include the big spenders, so why wouldn't Kabam cater to this group?
Assuming compensation is for missing out on doing content or the frustration that arises out of it, please remind me what additional content did the paragon players miss out due to input issues which the late thronebreakers didn’t in the past year?
@Graves_3 The important difference is that there are not as many paragon players since the title has been active for only a month or less. And thronebreaker includes players who include brand new TB’s all the way to those who have explored about everything and are missing a few fragments to get their 3rd r4. If the paragon title existed when input issues were rampant and many players had the opportunity to get to paragon, your argument would hold some sway. And also people only became paragon after kabam claimed input issues were resolved and announced compensation was coming to an end. Not before.
Lol you're making my point for me. Thronebreaker includes ppl w only a handful of 6* champs and 1 r3. Why would the compensation be the same as someone who has nearly every 6* champ, a plethora of r3s, many at maxed sigs, and at least 3 r4s. How do you compensate both groups in a manner that is equal.
Side note: Paragon players tend to include the big spenders, so why wouldn't Kabam cater to this group?
Assuming compensation is for missing out on doing content or the frustration that arises out of it, please remind me what additional content did the paragon players miss out due to input issues which the late thronebreakers didn’t in the past year?
Let's assume it's for the frustration. Should uncollected get the same comp as cav, and cav the same as thronebreaker, since the frustration is likely similar. If not, why not? Why shouldnt uncollected get the same 6* nexus and r3 gem (hypothetical) thronebreakers get? They suffered the same amount of frustration, right?
The answer is no they should not get the same comp because the value is much different for them. Most thronebreakers would probably be pretty happy w a class nexus. A class nexus for a Paragon is probably just another 20 sigs on a champ.
Paragons and thronebreakers, especially new ones, want/need different things. A thronebreaker w just a few 6*s likely wants more 6*s, whereas a Paragon either wants very specific 6*s to complete their collection, or would much rather a ton of sig stones, something new thronebreakers would ne less than thrilled about.
Paragons would likely be better served with 20 generic sig stones over a class nexus, which in and of itself is reason for a difference in compensation.
Again, Paragons are the big spenders, so why wouldnt kabam want to offer them good compensation as well.
@Chompy You assumed it’s for frustration. Frustration from not completing what content which other thronebreakers could not access in the past year?
Over the past year there has been a lot of content that some thronebreakers could access while others couldnt. For example, those who got thronebreaker after SOP finished did not have to suffer all the frustration of SOP, or miss those rewards due to bugs. Should they get less? Those who became thronebreaker yesterday suffered even less "thronebreaker level frustration". Surely they should get less, right?
Perhaps, compensation should be based on where we all were at the time of the bug or perhaps it should be based on where we were in the middle of it all, say December etc etc.
Or maybe, just maybe it should be based on where we are when it drops, just like it is for everyone below paragon.
Idk why you think kabam should, in essence, give less compensation to their biggest cash cows than they do to the rest of the community (remember identical comp for paragon and thronebreaker does not mean equal value). Doesn't seem like smart business.
@Chompy You assumed it’s for frustration. Frustration from not completing what content which other thronebreakers could not access in the past year?
Over the past year there has been a lot of content that some thronebreakers could access while others couldnt. For example, those who got thronebreaker after SOP finished did not have to suffer all the frustration of SOP, or miss those rewards due to bugs. Should they get less? Those who became thronebreaker yesterday suffered even less "thronebreaker level frustration". Surely they should get less, right?
Perhaps, compensation should be based on where we all were at the time of the bug or perhaps it should be based on where we were in the middle of it all, say December etc etc.
Or maybe, just maybe it should be based on where we are when it drops, just like it is for everyone below paragon.
Idk why you think kabam should, in essence, give less compensation to their biggest cash cows than they do to the rest of the community (remember identical comp for paragon and thronebreaker does not mean equal value). Doesn't seem like smart business.
You are forgetting that SoP was open even to cavaliers. There is no content which was exclusively open to thronebreakers. And there absolutely was no content which was not accessible to thronebreakers. There still is no content that’s locked for TB’s. In any case I have made my point. Kabam can do what they deem right. I don’t think arguing about it is going to make any difference.
We're happy to report that our larger, one-time compensation package is nearing completion. It's something we've stated we're hesitant to disclose more information about until our details are set in stone.
We've been told we will have more information to share with you soon but can say it is likely to be out before July!
Thanks Miike. Despite plenty of the evidence to the contrary posted above, I suspect that 99% of us are happy to wait.
As I imagine, the compensation will be progression based most likely. But my question is, will it cap out at Paragon or Thronebreaker when it comes to the highest point of the compensation?
I can’t see why it wouldn’t cap out at Paragon. Some players have had 3 r4s for half a year now.
It shouldn't though. It should cap at thronebreaker since paragon came out around the time they said the issues were "fixed"
The whole point of having progression tiers is to differentiate rewards, sales, gifts, etc so they are equally relevant, or as close, to as possible.
ie. Giving 10k shards to a proven player would be ridiculously amazing, whereas it would be great for uncollected, and very meh to a cav player. The value of 10k shards are valued differently, so giving 10k to each group is actually not fair, as they are giving better compensation to proven than cav.
What "wows" current thronebreakers aren't going to "wow" current Paragon players.
Giving the same comp to both groups means that paragon players are actually getting less.
The important difference is that there are not as many paragon players since the title has been active for only a month or less. And thronebreaker includes players who include brand new TB’s all the way to those who have explored about everything and are missing a few fragments to get their 3rd r4. If the paragon title existed when input issues were rampant and many players had the opportunity to get to paragon, your argument would hold some sway. And also people only became paragon after kabam claimed input issues were resolved and announced compensation was coming to an end. Not before.
Lol you're making my point for me. Thronebreaker includes ppl w only a handful of 6* champs and 1 r3. Why would the compensation be the same as someone who has nearly every 6* champ, a plethora of r3s, many at maxed sigs, and at least 3 r4s. How do you compensate both groups in a manner that is equal.
Side note: Paragon players tend to include the big spenders, so why wouldn't Kabam cater to this group?
As I imagine, the compensation will be progression based most likely. But my question is, will it cap out at Paragon or Thronebreaker when it comes to the highest point of the compensation?
I can’t see why it wouldn’t cap out at Paragon. Some players have had 3 r4s for half a year now.
It shouldn't though. It should cap at thronebreaker since paragon came out around the time they said the issues were "fixed"
The whole point of having progression tiers is to differentiate rewards, sales, gifts, etc so they are equally relevant, or as close, to as possible.
ie. Giving 10k shards to a proven player would be ridiculously amazing, whereas it would be great for uncollected, and very meh to a cav player. The value of 10k shards are valued differently, so giving 10k to each group is actually not fair, as they are giving better compensation to proven than cav.
What "wows" current thronebreakers aren't going to "wow" current Paragon players.
Giving the same comp to both groups means that paragon players are actually getting less.
The important difference is that there are not as many paragon players since the title has been active for only a month or less. And thronebreaker includes players who include brand new TB’s all the way to those who have explored about everything and are missing a few fragments to get their 3rd r4. If the paragon title existed when input issues were rampant and many players had the opportunity to get to paragon, your argument would hold some sway. And also people only became paragon after kabam claimed input issues were resolved and announced compensation was coming to an end. Not before.
Lol you're making my point for me. Thronebreaker includes ppl w only a handful of 6* champs and 1 r3. Why would the compensation be the same as someone who has nearly every 6* champ, a plethora of r3s, many at maxed sigs, and at least 3 r4s. How do you compensate both groups in a manner that is equal.
Side note: Paragon players tend to include the big spenders, so why wouldn't Kabam cater to this group?
He isn't making your point for you. Your points are 1. They are in a higher tier so they deserve "better" rewards and 2. They are big spenders
The point of separating these things isn't to favor Players. It's to provide Compensation/Rewards/Resources that are appropriate to whatever level of progress a Player is at.
As I imagine, the compensation will be progression based most likely. But my question is, will it cap out at Paragon or Thronebreaker when it comes to the highest point of the compensation?
I can’t see why it wouldn’t cap out at Paragon. Some players have had 3 r4s for half a year now.
It shouldn't though. It should cap at thronebreaker since paragon came out around the time they said the issues were "fixed"
The whole point of having progression tiers is to differentiate rewards, sales, gifts, etc so they are equally relevant, or as close, to as possible.
ie. Giving 10k shards to a proven player would be ridiculously amazing, whereas it would be great for uncollected, and very meh to a cav player. The value of 10k shards are valued differently, so giving 10k to each group is actually not fair, as they are giving better compensation to proven than cav.
What "wows" current thronebreakers aren't going to "wow" current Paragon players.
Giving the same comp to both groups means that paragon players are actually getting less.
The important difference is that there are not as many paragon players since the title has been active for only a month or less. And thronebreaker includes players who include brand new TB’s all the way to those who have explored about everything and are missing a few fragments to get their 3rd r4. If the paragon title existed when input issues were rampant and many players had the opportunity to get to paragon, your argument would hold some sway. And also people only became paragon after kabam claimed input issues were resolved and announced compensation was coming to an end. Not before.
Lol you're making my point for me. Thronebreaker includes ppl w only a handful of 6* champs and 1 r3. Why would the compensation be the same as someone who has nearly every 6* champ, a plethora of r3s, many at maxed sigs, and at least 3 r4s. How do you compensate both groups in a manner that is equal.
Side note: Paragon players tend to include the big spenders, so why wouldn't Kabam cater to this group?
He isn't making your point for you. Your points are 1. They are in a higher tier so they deserve "better" rewards and 2. They are big spenders
LOL Clearly you're missing the main point. The main point is that both groups deserve to be "wowed". You cant wow your paragon with the same compensation that wows your thronebreaker, especiall your new thronebreakers, who literally have very little roster depth and a single r3. This is why progression tiers exist and this is why it would be unfair to paragons if they were lumped in w thronebreakers, and essentially given less rewards.
Secondary to that, yes these are Kabam's cash cows so why not make sure to fatten em up. Keep em nice and happy. Its good business practice.
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However reading from the OP, I believe they were asking about the monthly compensation as the problem with the Input is still ongoing.
For myself, I'm actually more interest to know, what is Kabam planning going forward regarding this Input system, because :-
1) the input still have a massive problem and not just on timed input, it is even on block, dash and heavy, which are not timed related input.
2) Based on your other reply about AI, the Input may also affected AI as well, which again is a massive problem for players right.
It is all great to get a Big compensation, but this is a game based on precision control, so if input is not working, which is the foundation of the game, then the rest mean very little.
Hope we will get some proper update respond from Kabam.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/302602/pain-is-eternal-the-eternity-of-pain-starts-on-may-11-2022#latest
Go to that post to get a rough idea of when the big compensation will drop. I'd be surprised if we got it while EOP was still running, but now only time will tell.
ie. Giving 10k shards to a proven player would be ridiculously amazing, whereas it would be great for uncollected, and very meh to a cav player. The value of 10k shards are valued differently, so giving 10k to each group is actually not fair, as they are giving better compensation to proven than cav.
What "wows" current thronebreakers aren't going to "wow" current Paragon players.
Giving the same comp to both groups means that paragon players are actually getting less.
Btw, I'm not in a rush for a big comp. It comes when it comes.
Lol you're making my point for me. Thronebreaker includes ppl w only a handful of 6* champs and 1 r3. Why would the compensation be the same as someone who has nearly every 6* champ, a plethora of r3s, many at maxed sigs, and at least 3 r4s. How do you compensate both groups in a manner that is equal.
Side note: Paragon players tend to include the big spenders, so why wouldn't Kabam cater to this group?
Side note: Paragon players tend to include the big spenders, so why wouldn't Kabam cater to this group?
Assuming compensation is for missing out on doing content or the frustration that arises out of it, please remind me what additional content did the paragon players miss out due to input issues which the late thronebreakers didn’t in the past year?
Let's assume it's for the frustration. Should uncollected get the same comp as cav, and cav the same as thronebreaker, since the frustration is likely similar. If not, why not? Why shouldnt uncollected get the same 6* nexus and r3 gem (hypothetical) thronebreakers get? They suffered the same amount of frustration, right?
The answer is no they should not get the same comp because the value is much different for them. Most thronebreakers would probably be pretty happy w a class nexus. A class nexus for a Paragon is probably just another 20 sigs on a champ.
Paragons and thronebreakers, especially new ones, want/need different things. A thronebreaker w just a few 6*s likely wants more 6*s, whereas a Paragon either wants very specific 6*s to complete their collection, or would much rather a ton of sig stones, something new thronebreakers would ne less than thrilled about.
Paragons would likely be better served with 20 generic sig stones over a class nexus, which in and of itself is reason for a difference in compensation.
Again, Paragons are the big spenders, so why wouldnt kabam want to offer them good compensation as well.
Perhaps, compensation should be based on where we all were at the time of the bug or perhaps it should be based on where we were in the middle of it all, say December etc etc.
Or maybe, just maybe it should be based on where we are when it drops, just like it is for everyone below paragon.
Idk why you think kabam should, in essence, give less compensation to their biggest cash cows than they do to the rest of the community (remember identical comp for paragon and thronebreaker does not mean equal value). Doesn't seem like smart business.
Side note: Paragon players tend to include the big spenders, so why wouldn't Kabam cater to this group?
Secondary to that, yes these are Kabam's cash cows so why not make sure to fatten em up. Keep em nice and happy. Its good business practice.