Thoughts on BGs Farming
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It seems a lot of people are losing a bunch of matches on purpose with energy and then getting easy wins with elder marks pretty much since there's no prestige based matchmaking on Diamond leagues. Thoughts? Should Kabam do something about it yes or no? Why?
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I do hope kabam does something about it next season because it is difficult for some people to move up if they get caught in the vicious win-cycle of these farmers.
But isn't it Win get 2 Token and Lost lose 1 Token, if so players are doing that, they would take 1 win but give 2 lost back, is this actually not help more players move up? In theory if the two players have 2 matches in the row, the none farming player would come out with more tokens than they lost.
Also player choice to use Energy or Elder Mark at the beginning of the fight, would that not mean they have no way of know if it will be a hard or easy fight, i.e to win or lose, or to use energy or Elder mark?
I'm sure stuck in a cycle, but it is because all of these wonderful bugs in the game mode.🤣 Sure would mind being match with a few of these players, all I got matched so far are maxi account with lovely Legend title.
As for what Kabam can do, well maybe not put these AW rewards at silly high milestones points (but I guess this is a 1 time thing, so won't matter next season). Also maybe focus more resources on improving the stability of this game mode, make it more enjoyable to players. But hey what do I know.
I do agree with everyone else though, if we didn't need so many points, most people wouldn't be doing this.
I have lost 10 fights in a row with energy and elders marks, sure I am not a top 5% skilled player, while my roster is solid I have 5 r4 six star champs and no r5, nor r2 7 stars.
As someone mentioned previously it's not categorised meaning I am more often than not facing huge rosters. Winning is rare and this setup of the game is demoralising and not too much fun. So farming is the only answer, even if it's not on purpose
And I say this as someone who’s season placement will be negatively impacted by this. I’d still rather see the cheaters be handled first. Especially after the disgusting end to season 8
With it being EM scoring 6x of what Energy does, it's natural people use it for farming points.
Kabam can't stop it else.
They can't ban anyone because he "should" win the matches he loses.
It's an efficient strategy that the game design offers.
As for as it is unfair or not, it isn't.
Because players are winning smaller accounts on purpose, but they also are giving equal number of wins to smaller accounts also.
It's a zero sum game overall for the smaller accounts, they aren't losing anything they would otherwise gain.
If the gap between Elder Marks and Energy doesn't close, the win two - lose two on purpose strategy, will only get more popular 😉
In any case, they mentioned working on a way to streamline progress from Season to Season, so whatever people are doing will not be very advantageous for long.
As I said I don't see an issue with it and I don't consider it cheating I just think it's scummy and it sucks for the people on the receiving end hence I haven't done it myself
Dont hate the player hate the game my guy 🤷♂️
Overall it's a zero sum game, not any specific demographic (overall) is losing anything.
That's the big picture of it.
The only thing that is slightly affected by this, are the solo BGs ranked rewards.
If two identical players play the same number of matches, use the same amount of resources (Elder Marks and Energy) and win the same number of matches, the one that farmed will end up with much more points, as his EM win ratio will be close to 100%, while statistically the non farmer's will be only around 50%.
Do I think this is a good thing? Not at all.
Do I understand why others would look for loopholes to increase their participation scores when they know that direct cheaters got to keep their awards last season, and they are competing with those cheaters? For sure I do.
Until Kabam takes fair play more seriously in how they distribute awards, then this “gamesmanship” will continue to be status quo.
You have to choose elder marks or energy before you match, so you don't know who you're going to match. I have used elder marks the first 2 times and won (against big accounts with almost full r4 deck like me). So if I wanted to stay in plat 2 I now had to use energy for at least 2 matches and 4 matches to get back to zero medals. For all those 4 matches I matched with conquerer/unc/cav accounts. I gave 4 low accounts 2 medals each in this method. When I went to use elder marks I got matched up with big accounts again (and one thronebreaker - the poor guy). This cycle has been continuing for my last 20 something matches.
This is purely coincidence but shows that the opposite is also happening. For every match I win I'm propelling 2 low level player forward in the VT, letting them earn more rewards. I can't be the only farming player this is happening to because statistics so that's the other side of the coin.
Fun sidenote: I really have to hurry to forfeit the game because those conquerer/unc/cav players also quit out fast lol
Unlike last season where I came across a lot of lower level accounts when reach Diamond, I had one match this season and the rest paragons. It probably has a little to do with the farming in higher VT tiers.
It does not break any ToR, and people can decide how THEY will play the game.
Otherwise it would be like me getting angry with people that dont support Kabam by spending real money on this game as I do 🤷🏼♂️
From my point of view this is on Kabam for putting such a high point milestone(s) as they have