Alliance war new globals make it borderline unplayable

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  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,340 ★★★★★

    There’s no point in forums. Actual concerns from players are clearly ignored and critical posts are removed quicker than Quicksilver playing with himself. This defence tactic is beyond stupid, made even worse by an attack tactic that does almost nothing to counter it. It’s amazing how we can continually be surprised by Kabam not giving even half a thought to what the players might think about something before introducing it.

    Quoted for posterity..maybe. :D
  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,340 ★★★★★

    It's so fun facing photon in this node, you can't dex and you can't block lmao what was kabam thinking?

    Had to use CGR and just blitz her in current war - still died once.
  • PIKESTAINPIKESTAIN Member Posts: 185 ★★
    The ignoring part is the worst. Like just admit you guys were wrong. War deaths are doubled, and tripled, even quadrupled on occasion. Thats not a “slight” increase.
  • NeinoIIINeinoIII Member Posts: 64
    We had our best war yet! Only 89 deaths!! Can't wait to go back to triple digits next war 🥰
  • FunnyDudeFunnyDude Member Posts: 541 ★★★★
    Top alliance can still 100% the map with single digit death count, but the war is not designed for 300-500 players, it's designed for 30000-50000 players, to be honest, the tactic is a torture for majority of players.
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,015 ★★★★★
    FunnyDude said:

    Top alliance can still 100% the map with single digit death count, but the war is not designed for 300-500 players, it's designed for 30000-50000 players, to be honest, the tactic is a torture for majority of players.

    Single digits and half to 2/3’s if items used every war even when they play fights perfect. This season is probably the most expensive by a mile and AW rewards vs. cost are going to encourage a lot of players to just not take it seriously.
  • H3t3rH3t3r Member, Guardian Posts: 2,882 Guardian
    PIKESTAIN said:

    The ignoring part is the worst. Like just admit you guys were wrong. War deaths are doubled, and tripled, even quadrupled on occasion. Thats not a “slight” increase.

    Our deaths are weirdly lower this season lol
  • BosleyBosley Member Posts: 281 ★★★
    I skip AW like I skip BGs. The BS isn't worth my time or units. I don't get sucked into KABAMs nonsense. I don't need the rewards that badly.....
  • PIKESTAINPIKESTAIN Member Posts: 185 ★★
    H3t3r said:

    PIKESTAIN said:

    The ignoring part is the worst. Like just admit you guys were wrong. War deaths are doubled, and tripled, even quadrupled on occasion. Thats not a “slight” increase.

    Our deaths are weirdly lower this season lol
    What tier? And I would be willing to bet thats not true for the majority
  • Darkknight_94Darkknight_94 Member Posts: 459 ★★★
    This tactics is hella expensive & honestly loyalty healyh potions are not even good enough to make up for the difficulty increase you guys did with tactics.. not to say loyalty amount as well.
    Majority i think using more loyalty per war then getting it from the war ( win or lose)
  • H3t3rH3t3r Member, Guardian Posts: 2,882 Guardian
    PIKESTAIN said:

    H3t3r said:

    PIKESTAIN said:

    The ignoring part is the worst. Like just admit you guys were wrong. War deaths are doubled, and tripled, even quadrupled on occasion. Thats not a “slight” increase.

    Our deaths are weirdly lower this season lol
    What tier? And I would be willing to bet thats not true for the majority
    T3
  • PIKESTAINPIKESTAIN Member Posts: 185 ★★
    H3t3r said:

    PIKESTAIN said:

    H3t3r said:

    PIKESTAIN said:

    The ignoring part is the worst. Like just admit you guys were wrong. War deaths are doubled, and tripled, even quadrupled on occasion. Thats not a “slight” increase.

    Our deaths are weirdly lower this season lol
    What tier? And I would be willing to bet thats not true for the majority
    T3
    Yeah. I’d say most higher alliance are experiencing significant increases in deaths. Gonna be fun to see Kabam not address this or skirt around the issue like they have been!
  • TherunekingTheruneking Member Posts: 204 ★★
    Where are those "get good" "skill issue" guys?
  • FunnyDudeFunnyDude Member Posts: 541 ★★★★
    The next season could be even worse, imagine blacklist + ban include Herc, Ghost, Warlock, Mantis, Scorpion.
  • Cpt_Awesomeo55Cpt_Awesomeo55 Member Posts: 85
    I would very much love to see the data collected this season and compare it to past seasons by tier. Based on my war experience it has to be close to double the average number of deaths. That’s not a difficulty tweak, that’s a masacre. And it really eliminates the fun in one of the most enjoyable aspects of the game. What was the goal and plan from kabam? Just an attempt to determine how much the player base will take before switching to straight 40% revives.
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 729 ★★★★
    not even halfway and people are already fed up. some saying they're done next season.

    war has become "how can we item out and annoy the hell out of players before they stop playing".

    loyalty potions are stuck in 2021 and we're in 2024 with 120k+ health attackers...

    the meta is NOT fun. it's just not. if the goal was to make it harder so we die more and so that lowers the consequence of each KO and removes the stress of low-scoring matches, mission NOT accomplished because the mode is not fun.
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 729 ★★★★
    the game mode has becomes so restrictive and controlled that we barely get to use our good champions and get forced to rank up and use whatever temporarily boosted B level champs that we're told. and by the time second and final season of a meta rolls in we get 5 global attacker bans and have to scrape the bottom of the barrel with these attackers.

    the blacklists and whitelists mean nothing because how good was hercules in the decay/sugar pill meta when he was whitelisted? was he even used? when the OP champs are whitelisted, the global makes them useless, or they go on the ban lists when they are.

    each meta ends up being:

    - your god tier champs are useless because of the global
    - here, rank some b list champs
    - many of them will be banned the 2nd season of a meta so use worse ones
    - 2 seasons of boring frustrating, costly gameplay (rankups and potions, especially this season)

    then we move onto the next restrictive meta that forces more rankups and keeps benching the good champions.

    kabam is in the driver's seat and we're just a passenger. we have less power and control than we used to and it's not fun anymore.

    can't wait for the next meta..."here...chase and rank all the new champs from feature and use them".
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,015 ★★★★★
    Would love to get an update from the game team on if they are still happy with the tactic with all these new data points. I feel like 75% of the alliances we’ve faced to this point just have given up on this season already.
  • MaskedLegendMaskedLegend Member Posts: 99
    *Players tryna figure out counters to the node*
    Kabam:

  • FunnyDudeFunnyDude Member Posts: 541 ★★★★
    edited January 3
    interesting, I said the tactics should not be designed only for 300 players (top 10 alliances), instead it should be for 30000 players.
    Now Salty is complaining and we all know salty is a top10 war alliance.
    So it's not even designed for 300 players, it's really designed for devs because they are happy with it?
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,015 ★★★★★

    Adding a comment to this, we play in top 10 master and we can see the wish of opponents to just give up in some cases, opponents are dying 50-100 times while boosting and pushing.

    Wars have become extremely costly. Many of our members are completely out of potions at this point in season which is a first.

    It is not OK when some of the best players have to buy potions for units only because they know smaller loyalty potions won’t be enough and they’ll item out if they don’t spend units.

    If the global is not balanced for next season or affordable resources (potions) aren’t added nothing will make people want to push.
    At least do something about potion size and cost (and item count, the global is ruthless and punishing and the current item limit isn’t enough).

    If next season is left exactly the same with the same availability and cost of potions some may not be able to afford war after this season because their resources will be wiped out. Please look into this

    100% agree. This tactic combination exposes fully how completely lackluster the potion economy update was. Loyalty potion rarity, inventory caps, costs and purchase limits are a complete joke compare to health pools that are 80-120k hp.

    Scenario 1: R2 7star KM vs a R1 7star Silk defender. Player gets caught by a rooted sp1… last hit crits and goes from 90% to KO.

    Healing that boosted KM will cost 1 40% revive plus 6 gold AW potions to fully heal… that’s 7 of the 15 alotted items. The player is at risk of itemingbout should a similar mistake happen elsewhere.

    Scenario 2: Player blocks in time but there are 4 daunted passives. 25% of their health is gone for blocking a single sp1. Silk throws another in the same fight… KM is down to 50% health and had 2 more fights… 5 loyalty potions per a fight to heal out and that player is at 10 outta 15 items in 2 fights without taking a single hit. If KM has a 4th assignment the player can item out before evening entering the fight…. While playing well.

    It puts place where they need to resort to using units or risk iteming out… or simply sacrificing all 3 ABs on a node not to item out elsewhere.

    The potion economy like many of us told Kabam at the update it would be is woefully out of date already… especially married to ruthless tactics designed to make us use vastly more potions.
  • YouDontNeedToKnowYouDontNeedToKnow Member Posts: 116

    There’s no point in forums. Actual concerns from players are clearly ignored and critical posts are removed quicker than Quicksilver playing with himself. This defence tactic is beyond stupid, made even worse by an attack tactic that does almost nothing to counter it. It’s amazing how we can continually be surprised by Kabam not giving even half a thought to what the players might think about something before introducing it.


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