Winter of Woe Community Chat [MERGED THREADS]

Figured it'd be a good idea to get this started so people can discuss what works and what doesn't. Please feel free to post feedback below!

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Gaborrrrr

I´m Valiant and this content is disgusting, especially because of the awful AI. I´ll pass on this content and rewards with a heavy heart... I´m sad really, it´s a shame

Chuck_Finley

You see, this is Everest Content, mean a few players that are on the top will actually be able to do it without problems, and guess what, these players probably have all the champs in the game even the newest ones, and are able to rank them just for one mission.
So yeah I'm not angry I can't do it with ease because I'm not actually supposed to
Would be more tolerable except they have de-emphasized story and have made it clear this is the new shiny content going forward. This isn’t even necro where you can come back and do it later

So you are just telling all those paragons and even some valiant players not at the tip top of the game “yeah - we don’t need you playing our game anymore”?

You don't have to quit the game because one piece on content isn't suitable for you also, I didn't say you shouldn't play, I said it shouldn't be as easy as it is for End Game players

You are missing the point - there is no other new/shiny content. This is where all efforts are being put - necro, these events for a year vs. story content being reduced, etc. So if this extremely difficult content isn’t for most (especially since it’s resource intensive - which excludes even more players) - you expect everyone to just chill in SQ and EQ for a year and be happy? Well, good luck with that.

Colinwhitworth69

Make MCOC fun again.

IvarTheBoneless

Anyone have a r5 doc oc and enough skill to get the infinite power lock rotation? Im curious
I don't think you can with the unstoppable

I dont think so too but I want to kbow for sure. Mine can't but maybe a max sig can with the power steal?

pingu_tucnacek

So you are just telling all those paragons and even some valiant players not at the tip top of the game “yeah - we don’t need you playing our game anymore”?

That is EXACTLY how I do feel right now.

And hell, if that content is not meant for me, why are they even showing it to me? to make me angry or to give me depresion? Both is equaly wrong in my opinon.

pingu_tucnacek

You don't have to quit the game because one piece on content isn't suitable for you also, I didn't say you shouldn't play, I said it shouldn't be as easy as it is for End Game players

well it is pretty clear to me that this type of content and the showcased difficulty is extly the future they are planning for the game, and if i am not wrong (which i hope I am but we will see in two weeks), then yes, I clearly should stop playing right now.

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Wicket329

This was a problem in the EoP fights too. I think the tags would have been fine if they didn’t completely destroy all sources of secondary damage

Yeah, I think this is where I’m at with this fight. If the anti DOT node really only cut out DOT sources and not all red numbers (except for some like Void and Spider-Ham for reasons unknown!), I think this fight would’ve still been extremely challenging without being quite so obnoxious.

My favorite part of these challenges, historically, has been the theory crafting for viable champs to bring in or play styles to try. That is very noticeably absent for this fight. I’m still gonna do it, but it’s just missing that aspect I enjoyed so much from past iterations.

Zuro

This was a problem in the EoP fights too. I think the tags would have been fine if they didn’t completely destroy all sources of secondary damage

Nah EoP fights were way better, they were hard but actually soloable, and im saying this as someone who had a fairly small account back then. This abs man fight is actually insane, I still managed to solo it with sandman but it took 9 mins, no EoP fight was that bad.

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captain_rogers

What is the hulk sp3 rotation?
Throw an sp3 when you have near 15 fury’s. also knock him down to lose form before sp3. If low enough health go into an sp1 spam and stun lock him. Or do two sp3 and then sp1 stun lock
What if its a 6 star rank 3 hulk, how many sp3's would it need before you go for the sp1 stun cycle? If its a lot, the block damage can be rough at such a low rank.

I really wanna know the same, as my only powerful gamma champ is 6* r4 ibom and 6* r3 hulk. Will I be able to beat abs man in 5 revs with r3 hulk?

captain_rogers

@Kabam Miike
Please take care of these 3 things If you want us not to quit this game, atleast from next fight.

1 - If the difficulty is going to be similar, just reduce the energy cost already, We still have to try 100 times to get a solo, and energy cost is not needed.
2 - Please remove any type of regeneration based opponents. Fights like these, most players actually chip out health , we feel worse when opponent regen the small damage we did.
3 - Don't include a tag if only one or two champs are useful, Like you said sinister 6 champs for valiant, but only 2 out of 12 sinister 6 champs are actually useful. Lmao, Atleast make 6 out of 12 champs (half) usable. We deserve better kabam.

Everyone makes mistakes, This abs man is a mistake from your team, in every damn way. Take our suggestions and atleast try to not make the entire winter of woe a mistake, you still got time, don't let this event get spoiled for god's sake.

Madman_marvin

Let’s see if kabam hit the mark on WoW

pika

Imagine if they didn't nerf Abs-man at all, he will insta regen after you enter the fight when you revive, its either solo or rip run.
Now that would be a real challenge.

Ironman3000

You know that your content is super fun and interactive when your boss refuses to throw a special with 10+ of She-Hulk's furies (each increasing the chance to throw a special by 15%). There is nothing more fun than having all of your furies drop off and take brute-force damage.

Actually, spending 10 energy for that to happen each try is more fun!!!!

kikiFurieux

And remove Brute force or make AI aggressive...

Theholyplunger

Ngl, it seems like they are trying to get us to not play their game. 10 energy per WoW run, high energy cost for EQ, energy cost for BGs, energy cost for SQ, energy cost for apothecary (just to spend more energy in WoW). Kabam is over here forcing me to stop playing the game and go into the real world. I don't wanna do that lol

Perfect_jab

Aaaand if u waste resources an get him down an get all the points you are rewarded with.....lame junk rewards. Come on! This is everest , end game, hardest challenge, very champ specific an you reward with some 6* shards!! Smh. Lame rewards just make it even worse. They get better, but should of started off better. Just gradually making me like the game less an less.

Ironman3000

This one fight isn't that huge of a deal if it was a one-off. Having to burn resources like this every 2 weeks then the final round with all the fights is going to be a nightmare. Be better Kabam.

DrZola

You know that your content is super fun and interactive when your boss refuses to throw a special with 10+ of She-Hulk's furies (each increasing the chance to throw a special by 15%). There is nothing more fun than having all of your furies drop off and take brute-force damage.

Actually, spending 10 energy for that to happen each try is more fun!!!!

This is perhaps one of my favorite features of the game now: (a) champs that either Taunt or increase the likelihood an opponent throws specials combined with (b) an AI that appears secretly immune to behavior manipulation via Taunt, etc.

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Venoween

They need to add the incinerate node as well.

jcphillips7

This one fight isn't that huge of a deal if it was a one-off. Having to burn resources like this every 2 weeks then the final round with all the fights is going to be a nightmare. Be better Kabam.

I would hope the final month may be less restrictive like SOP/EOP. It’s been a while so I can’t remember all the details, but weren’t the objectives pretty basic class objectives (I.e. Beat XXX without a cosmic on your team,” etc.)? It gave a lot more freedom on who you could bring to tackle the fights.

But, who knows. They may have found that too gracious after it was all said and done.

Nemesis_17

It feels like there’s one node too many on this fight going on which significantly shrinks the number of options you can use. Either remove the unstoppable, or the no DOT, or the crit through block, there’s one too many things happening to worry about.

GroundedWisdom

Rarely do I say this on here, but it needs to be toned down. Not looking for a cake walk, but this is not challenging. It's constricting.

Shock29

Has anyone tried Mysterio for the Sinister Six objective? I legitimately think he might work. No poison but if you spam SP3's and make sure to Heal Block him consistently, it could be done. I think the worst part would be playing around the Unstoppable.

laserjohn26

Great content. Back to the good days where skill is necessary and everyone can't get through content in 10 minutes.

Those people who have played the game only since herc came out and never explored act 6 with 5*3 and r4 before it was ever nerfed might now understand why they see *skill issue* so often now.

captain_rogers

Ok how are these champs for the objectives? Can anyone suggest me

R3 hulk vs r3 overseer (both 6*) for gamma

Omega sentinel r4 vs gully99 6* r3 for robot

Sinister six I honestly have no option, will scorpion be able to chip out abs slowly? Otherwise I shouldn't rely on 6* r2 shocker (No sandman above 3*)

Emilia90

It feels like there’s one node too many on this fight going on which significantly shrinks the number of options you can use. Either remove the unstoppable, or the no DOT, or the crit through block, there’s one too many things happening to worry about.

I think they should remove the dot node tbh. Thinking about the fight as a whole, we have an abs man who’s regen can’t be reversed, with crits through block, brute force, unstoppable, immune to dot, and all of abs man’s regular annoying abilities.

If they took DOT immunity away, it opens up so many more options that you could skillfully use to solo. Someone like Viv or Overseer would be tougher to use here, but now they should have access to their main sources of damage. It still keeps the annoyance of the fight intact cause one hit can still kill you, but now you don’t have to keep throwing 1/2 champs at him

Bugmat78

Brute force is a cheap trick Kabam - stop using it for content that already has layers of difficult nodes, restrictive objectives and defenders