Bad matchmaking in battlegrounds

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  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 4,621 ★★★★★

    Yes matchmaking is bad I go in to one and if a see an opponent with 16,000 or above champions I will forfeit because I know I don’t have a chance to win and will repeat until I find an opponent the I do have chance against and the only reason why I’m playing BG is for the magnetron crystals once they are gone I’ll be back to losing on purpose.

    You should never forfeit. There are matches I've lost against bigger opponents that have made me realise good or bad matchups, just today I realised that prowler can't be used against scorpion and now I know not to use him against him. It's not just the individual matches, it's about strategy and learning. If I have someone in my deck and find myself not picking them for 5 fights in a row I know to take them out of my deck, it's all a learning experience
    Why would I fight an opponent that I know I don’t have a chance in the underworld of winning against where there’s no consequences of forfeiting to find an opponent that I do have a chance against.
    To not waste your match finding resource...
  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 12,340 Guardian

    Yes matchmaking is bad I go in to one and if a see an opponent with 16,000 or above champions I will forfeit because I know I don’t have a chance to win and will repeat until I find an opponent the I do have chance against and the only reason why I’m playing BG is for the magnetron crystals once they are gone I’ll be back to losing on purpose.

    You should never forfeit. There are matches I've lost against bigger opponents that have made me realise good or bad matchups, just today I realised that prowler can't be used against scorpion and now I know not to use him against him. It's not just the individual matches, it's about strategy and learning. If I have someone in my deck and find myself not picking them for 5 fights in a row I know to take them out of my deck, it's all a learning experience
    Why would I fight an opponent that I know I don’t have a chance in the underworld of winning against where there’s no consequences of forfeiting to find an opponent that I do have a chance against.
    To not waste your match finding resource...
    Not a waste if all I need is 1 win to get magnetron crystals or the move up until I can’t anymore.
    So you don’t care about your BG SOLO EVENT points toward those milestones ? (or rank rewards afterwards even if you hit top milestone already).

    Or aren’t being a very nice Ally Member, by refusing to contribute potential points toward the similar ALLY EVENT.
  • Shadowking79Shadowking79 Member Posts: 96

    Yes matchmaking is bad I go in to one and if a see an opponent with 16,000 or above champions I will forfeit because I know I don’t have a chance to win and will repeat until I find an opponent the I do have chance against and the only reason why I’m playing BG is for the magnetron crystals once they are gone I’ll be back to losing on purpose.

    You should never forfeit. There are matches I've lost against bigger opponents that have made me realise good or bad matchups, just today I realised that prowler can't be used against scorpion and now I know not to use him against him. It's not just the individual matches, it's about strategy and learning. If I have someone in my deck and find myself not picking them for 5 fights in a row I know to take them out of my deck, it's all a learning experience
    Why would I fight an opponent that I know I don’t have a chance in the underworld of winning against where there’s no consequences of forfeiting to find an opponent that I do have a chance against.
    To not waste your match finding resource...
    Not a waste if all I need is 1 win to get magnetron crystals or the move up until I can’t anymore.
    You are wasting points in the solo event 🤷
    And losing your chance of getting some 7star shard goodies
  • Shadowking79Shadowking79 Member Posts: 96

    Yes matchmaking is bad I go in to one and if a see an opponent with 16,000 or above champions I will forfeit because I know I don’t have a chance to win and will repeat until I find an opponent the I do have chance against and the only reason why I’m playing BG is for the magnetron crystals once they are gone I’ll be back to losing on purpose.

    You should never forfeit. There are matches I've lost against bigger opponents that have made me realise good or bad matchups, just today I realised that prowler can't be used against scorpion and now I know not to use him against him. It's not just the individual matches, it's about strategy and learning. If I have someone in my deck and find myself not picking them for 5 fights in a row I know to take them out of my deck, it's all a learning experience
    Why would I fight an opponent that I know I don’t have a chance in the underworld of winning against where there’s no consequences of forfeiting to find an opponent that I do have a chance against.
    To not waste your match finding resource...
    Not a waste if all I need is 1 win to get magnetron crystals or the move up until I can’t anymore.
    So you don’t care about your BG SOLO EVENT points toward those milestones ? (or rank rewards afterwards even if you hit top milestone already).

    Or aren’t being a very nice Ally Member, by refusing to contribute potential points toward the similar ALLY EVENT.
    Nope don’t care about BG solo event and my alliance is only 5 members and we all don’t care about Battlegrounds in general. I’m only doing it for the magnetron crystals.
    So what are saying is that you would rather have a crystal that has a chance to get a 6star or a 7star champion when you could grind through the solo event and have a 100 percent chance to get a 7star or a 6star champion ok 👍
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,158 ★★★★★
    🐸🐸 Matchmaking frogs when they see 7r3 enemy decks but also refuses to do act-8 100% and Necro 1 time completion to get those 7r3 in their own deck 🐸🐸
  • Shadowking79Shadowking79 Member Posts: 96
    PT_99 said:

    🐸🐸 Matchmaking frogs when they see 7r3 enemy decks but also refuses to do act-8 100% and Necro 1 time completion to get those 7r3 in their own deck
    True

  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 1,396 ★★★

    smdam38 said:

    I mean, you can love something and still complain about it. You never had a girlfriend or wife before? Or husband. I’m not being dis-inclusive and not making assumptions.

    He complained about almost everything in the game, while not doing any alliance modes, while not getting alliance mode rewards in general even less in special events, and now BGs... You talk about relationships, this is like complaining about a virtual long distance relationship with a timezone difference and a language barrier.
    It sounds like you think Tatania’s not coming.
    I paid postage and everything. Their boats just aren’t that great and Internet is bad there right now so it takes time.

    I just have to keep sending money for virtually nothing in return and it’ll all work out.
  • OldManHopOldManHop Member Posts: 294 ★★★
    edited July 6


    I play the game a lot but I don’t play certain game modes outside of events or content in the game and I call out BS when I see is it.

    You're stuck at thronebreaker and used a 6* AG on Goldpool.

    Your second strongest champion is a 6* R4 Ascended Redpool.

    My friend, you have a lot of learning to do.
  • OldManHopOldManHop Member Posts: 294 ★★★

    OldManHop said:


    I play the game a lot but I don’t play certain game modes outside of events or content in the game and I call out BS when I see is it.

    You're stuck at thronebreaker and used a 6* AG on Goldpool.

    I just got to TB and I’m working my way up at my own pace because not everyone play a game the same way as others do.

    And yeah so I used a 6star AG on Goldpool because the odds of me pulling him again is way lower then me pulling a mutant out of the base or dual Crystal.
    That would make sense... If you didn't continually make choices that prevent you from making progress and then complain about not making progress.
  • Shadowking79Shadowking79 Member Posts: 96

    OldManHop said:

    OldManHop said:


    I play the game a lot but I don’t play certain game modes outside of events or content in the game and I call out BS when I see is it.

    You're stuck at thronebreaker and used a 6* AG on Goldpool.

    I just got to TB and I’m working my way up at my own pace because not everyone play a game the same way as others do.

    And yeah so I used a 6star AG on Goldpool because the odds of me pulling him again is way lower then me pulling a mutant out of the base or dual Crystal.
    That would make sense... If you didn't continually make choices that prevent you from making progress and then complain about not making progress.
    My choice on who to used the AG on didn’t prevent me from making progress it was the lack of revives.

    And to let you know you and I are 2 different people we see and play the game in different ways.
    I think agon is a bad choice for gold pool and don't blame it on the lack of revive just because you made a bad choice
  • OldManHopOldManHop Member Posts: 294 ★★★
    I can't even with this thread anymore...

    Willful ignorance can't be beaten.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 4,621 ★★★★★
    edited July 6

    OldManHop said:

    OldManHop said:


    I play the game a lot but I don’t play certain game modes outside of events or content in the game and I call out BS when I see is it.

    You're stuck at thronebreaker and used a 6* AG on Goldpool.

    I just got to TB and I’m working my way up at my own pace because not everyone play a game the same way as others do.

    And yeah so I used a 6star AG on Goldpool because the odds of me pulling him again is way lower then me pulling a mutant out of the base or dual Crystal.
    That would make sense... If you didn't continually make choices that prevent you from making progress and then complain about not making progress.
    My choice on who to used the AG on didn’t prevent me from making progress it was the lack of revives.

    And to let you know you and I are 2 different people we see and play the game in different ways.
    Remember when you complained about getting rank up mats to get TB thru the alternate route?..
    If you were in a decent alliance that does AQ and AW you wouldn't had those problems.
    Sure enjoy the game you want, nothing wrong with that. Problem is when you say things as people ahead of you pay their way and complain about the things you can't get or achieve when you really don't do much.... Farming revives doing EQ and SQ is not "playing a lot" really...
    I was in a decent alliance back before BG ever came out and was kicked because I didn’t lvl and rank champs they told me to. To me that not how an alliance should work.
    The other problem you forgetting that when people/players complain that something is to hard or unfair about content the players that got past that say “we had it way harder or say lower progression players you don’t deserve the resources or even 7stars”

    OldManHop said:

    OldManHop said:


    I play the game a lot but I don’t play certain game modes outside of events or content in the game and I call out BS when I see is it.

    You're stuck at thronebreaker and used a 6* AG on Goldpool.

    I just got to TB and I’m working my way up at my own pace because not everyone play a game the same way as others do.

    And yeah so I used a 6star AG on Goldpool because the odds of me pulling him again is way lower then me pulling a mutant out of the base or dual Crystal.
    That would make sense... If you didn't continually make choices that prevent you from making progress and then complain about not making progress.
    My choice on who to used the AG on didn’t prevent me from making progress it was the lack of revives.

    And to let you know you and I are 2 different people we see and play the game in different ways.
    I think agon is a bad choice for gold pool and don't blame it on the lack of revive just because you made a bad choice
    I don’t make bad choices on who I want to lvl, rank up and use items on because there no bad choices in this game.

    And by the way to all. the Conversation went from about BG bad matchmaking to about me all because all i said I forfeit until I find an opponent that I have a chance of winning over an opponent that I don’t stand a chance against.
    So you had 1 bad experince with an alliance therefore all alliances are bad?...
    Yes the conversation deviated a bit; but its all related. You don't do much in the game, your progression is subpar, therefore your bad experience in a PvP game mode is justified.
  • OldManHopOldManHop Member Posts: 294 ★★★


    I don’t make bad choices on who I want to lvl, rank up and use items on because there no bad choices in this game.

    This might be the least true thing ever said on this forum.

  • Shadowking79Shadowking79 Member Posts: 96

    OldManHop said:

    OldManHop said:


    I play the game a lot but I don’t play certain game modes outside of events or content in the game and I call out BS when I see is it.

    You're stuck at thronebreaker and used a 6* AG on Goldpool.

    I just got to TB and I’m working my way up at my own pace because not everyone play a game the same way as others do.

    And yeah so I used a 6star AG on Goldpool because the odds of me pulling him again is way lower then me pulling a mutant out of the base or dual Crystal.
    That would make sense... If you didn't continually make choices that prevent you from making progress and then complain about not making progress.
    My choice on who to used the AG on didn’t prevent me from making progress it was the lack of revives.

    And to let you know you and I are 2 different people we see and play the game in different ways.
    Remember when you complained about getting rank up mats to get TB thru the alternate route?..
    If you were in a decent alliance that does AQ and AW you wouldn't had those problems.
    Sure enjoy the game you want, nothing wrong with that. Problem is when you say things as people ahead of you pay their way and complain about the things you can't get or achieve when you really don't do much.... Farming revives doing EQ and SQ is not "playing a lot" really...
    I was in a decent alliance back before BG ever came out and was kicked because I didn’t lvl and rank champs they told me to. To me that not how an alliance should work.
    The other problem you forgetting that when people/players complain that something is to hard or unfair about content the players that got past that say “we had it way harder or say lower progression players you don’t deserve the resources or even 7stars”

    OldManHop said:

    OldManHop said:


    I play the game a lot but I don’t play certain game modes outside of events or content in the game and I call out BS when I see is it.

    You're stuck at thronebreaker and used a 6* AG on Goldpool.

    I just got to TB and I’m working my way up at my own pace because not everyone play a game the same way as others do.

    And yeah so I used a 6star AG on Goldpool because the odds of me pulling him again is way lower then me pulling a mutant out of the base or dual Crystal.
    That would make sense... If you didn't continually make choices that prevent you from making progress and then complain about not making progress.
    My choice on who to used the AG on didn’t prevent me from making progress it was the lack of revives.

    And to let you know you and I are 2 different people we see and play the game in different ways.
    I think agon is a bad choice for gold pool and don't blame it on the lack of revive just because you made a bad choice
    I don’t make bad choices on who I want to lvl, rank up and use items on because there no bad choices in this game.

    And by the way to all. the Conversation went from about BG bad matchmaking to about me all because all i said I forfeit until I find an opponent that I have a chance of winning over an opponent that I don’t stand a chance against.
    It's okay to rank up a champion but don't complain when you see them not completely destroying your opponent and losing the fight also you brought the hate to yourself not me
  • OldManHopOldManHop Member Posts: 294 ★★★
    You're bad at the game, and that's okay.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 4,621 ★★★★★
    smdam38 said:

    OldManHop said:

    I can't even with this thread anymore...

    Willful ignorance can't be beaten.

    Ok 13 year old girl from 2019 “I can’t even”
    I guess old fits your moniker.
    There are threads galore. Like a literal, giant galore full, of threads.

    You do realize that you don’t HAVE to tap or click on every single one? It’s a thing, nobody is forcing you to do.
    The Kabaam gods aren’t hiding in your basement threatening you with a 7* Groot.

    Yes, battlegrounds is being handled poorly and needs some work.
    BGs have been handled poorly, 20 seasons trying make the matchmaking work for people that don't care much about progression and stay the same for too long. Nothing really has changed or improved for end game players, its about time people are forced to progress or improve their rosters if they want to play the mode.
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 1,396 ★★★
    I’ve seen some really good suggestions from the community. They don’t even have to come up with their own unique ideas.
    Just take one of the good ones.
  • OldManHopOldManHop Member Posts: 294 ★★★
    Learn to swim.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 4,621 ★★★★★
    I haven't seen a single suggestion about improving BGs for end game players...
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 4,621 ★★★★★
    OldManHop said:

    I haven't seen a single suggestion about improving BGs for end game players...

    I'll be honest, I don't like BG's.

    It's not that I find anything wrong with it, I actually think it's an extremely well-designed mode (given what the devs had to work with.) I don't know that I'd even change anything... But I'm a casual PvE player by nature, and that's why you won't catch me complaining about competitive modes in general.

    If anything, it seems like players get access to the mode too early. The difficulty scaling across this game is... weird for a newer player... and some stuff could use a few more warning signs that they're in for a hard time.

    As to improving things for endgame players... Beats me, man.

    They spent so much time on matchmaking and making some people happy...
    Lets put it this way.. after you get to GC, there is almost no incemtice.to keep on playing.
    Oh yay we might get some relic mats (new relics have been discontinued for a long time) and a few more shards along with bragging rights maybe?...
    20 seasons and we are still talking about matchmaking for lower progression.
  • LordSmasherLordSmasher Member Posts: 1,545 ★★★★★

    I haven't seen a single suggestion about improving BGs for end game players...

    * Simultaneous drafting
    * Less matches in VC
    * Reduce the roster gap advantage a tad. Maybe like bonus to 4-6 stars champs to get them closer (not better, just not as far away)
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 4,621 ★★★★★

    I haven't seen a single suggestion about improving BGs for end game players...

    * Simultaneous drafting
    * Less matches in VC
    * Reduce the roster gap advantage a tad. Maybe like bonus to 4-6 stars champs to get them closer (not better, just not as far away)
    ... Roster gap? How is that a suggestion for end game players?.. What endgame player has 4*s in his deck...
  • LordSmasherLordSmasher Member Posts: 1,545 ★★★★★

    I haven't seen a single suggestion about improving BGs for end game players...

    * Simultaneous drafting
    * Less matches in VC
    * Reduce the roster gap advantage a tad. Maybe like bonus to 4-6 stars champs to get them closer (not better, just not as far away)
    ... Roster gap? How is that a suggestion for end game players?.. What endgame player has 4*s in his deck...
    Constant forfeits are not fun. Less, more meaningful matches.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 4,621 ★★★★★

    I haven't seen a single suggestion about improving BGs for end game players...

    * Simultaneous drafting
    * Less matches in VC
    * Reduce the roster gap advantage a tad. Maybe like bonus to 4-6 stars champs to get them closer (not better, just not as far away)
    ... Roster gap? How is that a suggestion for end game players?.. What endgame player has 4*s in his deck...
    Constant forfeits are not fun. Less, more meaningful matches.
    So your suggestion as an improvement for end game players is buffing up lower star champions for other people...

    Like i said not a single suggestion to improve the game mode for end game.players...
  • OldManHopOldManHop Member Posts: 294 ★★★
    edited July 6

    Lets put it this way... after you get to GC, there is almost no incentive to keep on playing.

    I'm honestly surprised that champion skins haven't become a thing yet. I'm not saying that it's the solution, but it would at least be some semblance of a justification for ranking high on the ladder.

    As far as cosmetics go, titles and pfp's just aren't very motivating... but I could see a lot of previously-disinterested people going hard in Arena/AW/BG's if the top players got a unique skin for certain champs.
  • LordSmasherLordSmasher Member Posts: 1,545 ★★★★★

    I haven't seen a single suggestion about improving BGs for end game players...

    * Simultaneous drafting
    * Less matches in VC
    * Reduce the roster gap advantage a tad. Maybe like bonus to 4-6 stars champs to get them closer (not better, just not as far away)
    ... Roster gap? How is that a suggestion for end game players?.. What endgame player has 4*s in his deck...
    Constant forfeits are not fun. Less, more meaningful matches.
    So your suggestion as an improvement for end game players is buffing up lower star champions for other people...

    Like i said not a single suggestion to improve the game mode for end game.players...
    Oh, I thought when you send "improve the game mode" it was about making it more fun to play. Getting wins via forfeits ain't a ton of fun.
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