Alliance Quest Miniboss and Sentinel Refresh - April 2018 - Discussion Thread [Updated April 13]

Summoners,

We've just announced a small refresh of Alliance Quests that will start April 2nd. This will include new Minibosses, and a farewell to our Symbioid friends!

Read all about it, then ask your questions!

UPDATE:
We've just posted an update in regards to your feedback on Alliance Quests. This post includes some adjustments to Sentinels and Alliance Quests that will be coming with the next series (Starting April 18th). Take a look right here: http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/62626/upcoming-adjustments-to-alliance-quests-april-18th-2018

Comments

Fingfangfoomfanes

Maat1985 wrote: »

I a few weeks everyone will have learnt how to best cope with these guys and there will be no problem....
Just put some focus and thought in and lets learn how to adapt....

When life throws you lemons.... make lemonade.....

When life throws you oranges dont try and make lemonade.....
Learn how to make orange juice.....

When kabam throws you ****, what do you make of it? Chocolate Milkshake?

Maat1985

Fingfangfoomfanes wrote: »

Maat1985 wrote: »

I a few weeks everyone will have learnt how to best cope with these guys and there will be no problem....
Just put some focus and thought in and lets learn how to adapt....

When life throws you lemons.... make lemonade.....

When life throws you oranges dont try and make lemonade.....
Learn how to make orange juice.....

When kabam throws you ****, what do you make of it? Chocolate Milkshake?

Actually i make a sandwich and feed it to all the entitled ##### around here

Syndicated

#NerfSentinelCans

General__Ross

I think I’m the only one who likes the change. AQ was too repetitive, can’t wait for the full release.

D14rock

SignalPack8651 wrote: »

I think I’m the only one who likes the change. AQ was too repetitive, can’t wait for the full release.

So fighting the same different classes of Sentinels, all with the exact same move set isn't repetitive? AQ is a blast now.that I get to fight psylocke, AA, and now Sentinel over and over and over again. Lol

TKS87

Maat1985 wrote: »

Luke cage is also kick ass to kill dorm and is bleed immune.... quake is amazing for alot if you know how to use her....
At the moment personally i am going to see what works best out of
GR, Blade, Luke Cage
Or
Medusa, GR, Luke Cage

I can say that Medusa, GR and Cage works quite well. Exactly the team I used, and haven't needed to use any items, granted it's only day 1.

Scud77

just looking at how my alliance have ended up I’d say difficulty has made a drastic change, and not all rely on damage over time champs

Scud77

I do feel the addition of the changes are premature, and sentinels are way Too OP, the way they are currently in game, we do map 3 and with the current AQ even our top guys are feeling it

SpiritOfVengeance

The thing is kabam it aint the actual changes that are annoying it is the fact that we have had to change up our team by wasting more resources and we recieve the same rewards for it.

I guarantee if you had helped us by deranking some of our champions so that we could try prepare for it and we had some reward changes then we wouldn't mind the new enemies. You would have the couple comments that would still hate but the amount of hate that is being pushed your way would of been turned into something like "awesome new changes and we can prepare for it the right way".

Acanthus

They're not hard to fight per se, they're just annoying and obnoxious.

Symbioid on day 5: 30-40 second fight
Sentinel on day1: 1 min 30 second fight

I mean.. yeah

GroundedWisdom

SpiritOfVengeance wrote: »

The thing is kabam it aint the actual changes that are annoying it is the fact that we have had to change up our team by wasting more resources and we recieve the same rewards for it.

I guarantee if you had helped us by deranking some of our champions so that we could try prepare for it and we had some reward changes then we wouldn't mind the new enemies. You would have the couple comments that would still hate but the amount of hate that is being pushed your way would of been turned into something like "awesome new changes and we can prepare for it the right way".

That's why it's useful to Rank more than the same, few Champs. It's also probably best to Rank for more than one reason.

Razy

420sam wrote: »

So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

Was there anything done before that benefit to pkayer?

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Luciferos

So when are you nerfing Sentinels? It’s day one AQ and I am getting close to being timed out quite a bit. Sentinels are too ****; literally too slow and defensive. Yet somehow can they can pull off a special with speed.

It would be nice if this change came with a 5/6* Wolverine in my mailbox. Or worthwhile rewards. Or to be given a more proportionate value for buying units.

I don’t know. It seems every change shafts players just a little bit more.

Mike_10

Change simbiods by sentinels on AQ only means one thing... kabam needs more money !! What they earns is Never enough! Whenever they changes anything in the game it is always to benefit in their own behalf! We the players are always harmed by these changes !! Not mention the prizes that are getting worse ! Shame on you Kabam!!

MEKA5

The refresh is a good thing. But also just a money grab
IF
increased difficulty's not awarded with updated rewards.
@Kabam Miike

mum_m2

SignalPack8651 wrote: »

I think I’m the only one who likes the change. AQ was too repetitive, can’t wait for the full release.

then get used to fighting the same champ with the same specials over and over again 5 days a week. at least symbiodes had different specials and defensive properties. all of the sentinels are bleed poison immune. they all have the same major weakness. they can change the class all they want, but we are still baiting and evading the l1 until they use it.

I'd rather they just replace one sentinel per path with a normal champ. i'm not saying I'm tired of them now, but I will be the third week or so.

WC303

So it seems you’re back to rolling out unwanted and untested updates, Kabam. I agree that AQ needed a bit of a refresh, but adding bleed and poison immune opponents (Sentinels) along with minibosses that require players to bring bleed immune champs (Map 5) before adding updated, better rewards is just poor decision making by the game team. If you’re working on a full refresh why wouldn’t you just wait for it to be 100% ready for roll out? The current update isn’t even stable. We’re back to the game crashing when we press “Continue” to start a fight, which results in the loss of half health penalty. One step forward, two steps back, Kabam. Get it together, please. ASAP.

Kdog76

All for a refresh but agree on sentinels being too much. Causing bleed or power drain thru a block is ridiculous. Even a parry will cost you now.

And no they don’t “melt” with armor break. I’ve used Medusa, IF, and even lowly 4* Thor.

All this has done is push us into bleed immune champs and negated DW mastery for AQ. Can’t the game get more interesting and fun without feeling like we got screwed?

Amonthir

Would absolutely take a random champ of the appropriate class over Sentineloids. Just insert the code from the MODOK labs for those nodes, modify it for class, and boom, a more interesting AQ already. Sents are annoying, boring, and tedious to fight. Their AI is weirdly defensive, their attacks are slow and oddly spaced, but just fast enough where slipping in an attack is dangerous. Have not fought a Mystic one yet. Also, our defensive abilities seem off, and I have had Sents punch right through a block with regular attacks, and ignore parries.

Primmer79

Okay so here's an idea. This was a refresh to keep us busy. When infinity war event is over, put new thanos as boss, and his children/army become these nodes. At least then they would be normal champs and differing move set.

ChefSkallywag

I have a great idea for a refresh. Maybe put in different champs. I fight 10 Sentinels on any given AQ. My path is 7/7/7. Is it difficult to add actual champs to AQ? Why do mystic Sentinels get MD and Nullify through blocks? Why are Skill Sentinels totally immune?

Is map 5 worth the insanely high cost with such **** rewards and fights? Why is my alliance mates 5* Iceman timing out on day one against NC? F map 5. It’s still boring.

MadMax79

@Maat1985 be proud of yourself.. what a great achievement ... so very productive .. well done dude well done

Dax_Janiels

21 pages of unhappy players. Not a response from the game team. That's a bit disappointing.

ChefSkallywag

Par for the course

RagamugginGunner

Primmer79 wrote: »

Okay so here's an idea. This was a refresh to keep us busy. When infinity war event is over, put new thanos as boss, and his children/army become these nodes. At least then they would be normal champs and differing move set.

This was a ploy to keep spending up between AW seasons. A complete scumbag move from a scumbag company.

Zapp

So you made AQ harder but kept the rewards the same? (Sentinels are a LOT harder to fight, if you claim otherwise you should probably try for yourself first)

Have to say I’m not surprised that not a lot of people are big fans of this change.

Legendsend

I was waiting to try it out before judging... After trying it out and having never been here to "complain" before I have to say that the difficulty of aq is raised and therefore the rewards should reflect said change. Unblockable specials and heavies, nc with the crazy evade... etc... That raised the difficulty but I had to try it out before coming here to say anything. I'm doing really well but I can't say the same for others in the alliance and it's day 1. This is not me advocating for a change or for anything to remain the same... This is me merely stating a fact.

RagamugginGunner

I really don't think you guys realize long it takes to change the glory rewards in AW. I'm talking about hundreds of seconds here. There is no logical way they could have increased the rewards along with the new champs in AQ. It was simply not possible.

Knightarthus

Sometimes in real life you end up doing more work for the same pay due to rise of competition or some other factors. This should never be the case in games, games are based on dopamine stimulation. This was a weird approach I don’t recall seeing anywhere else in games.

This is the community feed back as seen here and in different threads so hopefully it will be addressed.