**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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If they're barely cobtributing and there that long, they're already getting Rewards along the way. Is it a douche move? Could be. Perhaps they also waited until the end of the Season to reevaluate who contributed, or perhaps they just decided then. Point being, it's not as if they are booted with nothing. If they're not really doing anything and collecting Rewards up until they're booted, there's not much argument for fairness.
You hit two options, let freeloader stay, or recruit someone else.
If you let freeloader stay you are saying he's got a value because he's better than nothing. Then it's your choice to keep him there. He deserve rewards because you decided to keep him her whoever
Are you familiar with Henny Penny?
As I said, there are a lot of greedy guys who kick players just because they have someone else to add with better prestige or better defenders/attackers. That's the problem. I don't think anyone is so stupid to come here and complain after doing nothing.
You're considering that individual, not you as a leader officer. It's you're choice to pay that person or not. Your choice to kick or not whether or not they deserve it.
I love work examples:
Hire a temp to perm position. Fire temp a day before his official hire date when you know he's not going to work out or fire them with months left on his contract when you know he's not going to work out???
But then if you lock within the last five wars you're saying people can misbehave in any manner they wish during the last two weeks because no one can do anything about it. That's equally bad.
This is ridiculous. Now you're saying that someone that places five defenders and then doesn't attack at all should get rewards because any contribution at all deserves full credit. That if you'd be worse off without any little thing someone does, that makes them critical. So I could place one defender, and I'm still making a contribution.
No sane person judges participation that way. You don't contribute to an alliance on your terms. You do so on theirs. Or you leave. Because any alliance leader will tell you that the most important reason to kick someone is that everyone else doesn't want them there. If someone is sandbagging, you have to kick them. Or else soon enough you won't have anyone else around either.
I would rather lose with nine than win with ten if one of them was deliberately not putting in comparable effort as the rest. Because in the long run, those rewards won't be enough to compensate for the trouble that would cause.
I disagree with your assumption that anyone kicked was kicked for a valid reason. I've encountered guys who are forced to rank champs to the detriment of their accounts. Use resources on aw for silver and bronze tier rewa6that would have been better spent growing an account to actually be productive. I've seen these same guys kicked just before rewards drop by spiteful leaders simply because they questioned orders that made no real sense. Not all leaders and officers are reasonable decent people looking out for the welfare of the alliance as a whole. Its these people who are kicking just for the self gratification of doing it that this thread is about.
Right but you wouldnt keep that person around long enough to see the light of day...
That's all I'm saying. You get rid of them immediately not suck them dry
Unless the person is just a terrible human being shouting racist and derogatory **** then yeah gotta give them the rewards...but I mean can't really cause in game issues when every thing is said and done in terms of war.
Having said that there is no governing body in MCOC that will/can enforce/regulate such things like in RL, this means you’re at the mercy of the people above you in your alliance so choose your alliance/actions carefully and check your attitude if you want to get paid after doing something to get fired.
Last war of the season? If he played the other 4-12 and did not present those issues he earned season rewards.
I wouldn’t keep him but i also wouldn’t withhold his paycheck because I felt slighted by his actions (which likely didn’t effect the season anyways).
Cash me outside.
Kabam needs to fix this or I believe in a penalty as well. You should have your stuff in order and set in by the 10-12 day deadline
Here's an idea, why don't one of you create an alliance for all the 'badly done to' people,
I guarantee within a week you'll realise why they were kicked, you might get 1 out of the 30 thats a good active player, but the vast majority with be trash, the alliance will get nowhere, then everything we've been saying will start to sink in.
Most run their alliance like an actual army, and in the army you don't back chat your Commanding Officer, you don't just not turn up for training, and you do what you're told to the letter, nothing more, nothing less, and you certainly don't question it.
If you cant take orders, and you can't handle authority, just play the game solo, because you won't stay in any good alliance for long...
This thread needs to be put to bed, it's got ridiculous...
"the eligibility for war rewards in game is you have to be a part of 5 wars to get rewards, so if you've been a part of 5 wars you should get rewards"
That is exactly the same argument as "why shouldn't I claim benefits/welfare instead of working, they are available, I'm eligible, so I deserve them and I'm taking them, even though I'm capable of working"
The epitome of self-entitlement.
News flash...
You don't deserve anything you don't work for, thats the law of the universe in general, you reap what you sow.
In other words you work hard and your hard work will reward you, if you don't it won't...
However, if the biggest problem here is that people get kicked after the season ends, but before the rewards are awarded. Shouldn't the rewards be calculated and set the moment war season ends, and then at least those who were participating in war that season get the rewards, even if they have been kicked out of the alliance after the war ended?
Sure, an evil officer might still kick someone just before it ends. I guess life isn't fair. Just like RNG.
Ill share you some griefing stores from masters/platinum1 on people
1. We had a person who said they didn't have enough "resources" unit/glory to buy potions, so some of pitched in a gifted him so we can 100% the war, gave him heads up he was gona have to go. He took it the wrong way and in chat said he was thinking of just leaving right on the spot at the time
he died..to r3 hood using r5 blade he died like 6 times
2. Just before the cutoff an officer, messed up and dies abunch of times in war, he knew he was gona get kicked...
so he booted more than half of the alliance before he was kicked
and ofcourse I also see a lot of players leave mid war
1 strike/day and you're out.
Or, it needs 3 kicks from 3 different officers/leader
you're missing the entire point man. it's all about the TIMING of it.
here's the issue once again: alliance leaders and officers are kicking people out of the alliance to prevent them from earning rewards even after the final war has completed.
That's the problem people are facing.
all your reasons to kick someone are VALID. get rid of the dead weight.
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now I'm not trying to protect freeloaders. I'm not trying to side with people who should be booted. I'm trying to PREVENT leaders and officers from sucking the life out of someone, waiting until the very last war of the season to kick someone out when they SHOULD have done it wars ago. get that please and stop derailing this thread by making it about why it's justified to kick someone out.
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**** idea ,just **** off
# lets say we have 3 weeks for 1 aw season.
#when the bracket is locked,whole rewards on 1 season is divided to per war. So if someone get kicked, he didnt loss the prize.
Personally if we had a situation where we should win the war/ complete whole aq 100% BUT because some people holding others (either die easily and only gain little point on aq or even worse, didnt move much and make others need to do more work) i dont like that kind of player (even tho they still participating, better than not at all ).
But i also feel bad if officer/leader kick them when they really close to get the prize, and they miss all the prize, and even they try to join new alliance they cant get the prize because the time is not enough.
I hope kabam consider this matter