Alliance Quest Season 6 - Discussion Thread

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  • Rake2Rake2 Member Posts: 19
    @Kabam Miike those nodes of the mini boss (Hyperion) AQ are very difficult
  • IcejrIcejr Member Posts: 431 ★★★

    IceSnow said:

    Is that any kind of joke @BrianGrant ?
    How many Unstoppable champions people have ? Are we need to recruit 1 unstoppable champions member for per bg to doing map 7 ? Or kabam giving everyone free 6 star thing ? We are talking here from start of the map 7 and you are talkkng about giving back that node again ,

    Wow what a great community

    Show us live in youtube and take that node down ...
    So we can believe you ,


    Alright everybody, we have another fix for Can't Stop Won't Stop coming. This one is a short term fix that should alleviate the issues presented, and there will be a longer term fix coming in the future:

    - Change Damage Reduction from 90% to 50%
    - Change Fury from 100% to 25%
    - Change Power Gain from 10% of a Bar Per second to 2% of a Bar per second

    I don't have a specific ETA on this at this time, but we want to get this tested and out as soon as we can!

    This is a good change and definitely brings the node to a reasonable level of difficulty, so I don't want to sound too critical here, but I think players will ultimately just use Corvus/Omega/Ghost or any other commonly used top champion instead of using a champion that goes unstoppable. Some of these champions still do more damage even with the damage penalty, plus they will avoid giving the enemy any kind of buff.

    The original dev note made it sound like the goal of the node was to use champions that go unstoppable, and play aggressively when you are unstoppable. But it's hard to play aggressively when the enemy is gaining power, even small amounts. I think it would be cool if the enemy gained LESS power when you are unstoppable. Yeah it makes the node easier, which after this change it doesn't need to be, but I think it plays to the theme of the node more and would make people actually want to level up certain champions over the most commonly seen ones.
    Hey Brian,

    @Kabam DK isn't able to come to the Forums right now, but he asked me to let you know that this is a valid concern, but please remember that this is a Temporary fix. The Long Term fix (which won't be out for a bit) will have a bigger damage reduction again (probably not as high as before), but will also be re-tuned to focus more on the original intent of the node. You can be pretty sure that Power Gain won't be involved then.
    Ah ok I guess I missed the short term fix part of the update. I hope the long term fix makes champions that go unstoppable truly feel unstoppable. Would make for a fun lane. Appreciate the update.
    Huh? Maybe there's some kind of misunderstanding here. I'm saying I want the node to buff up our champions more when they go unstoppable. This would make the node easier than it is today. Increase the damage you can do greatly when unstoppable while lowering the enemy's power gain, or give your champion a stacking damage increase each time they trigger unstoppable that lasts the duration of the fight, something like this that helps players.

  • GOLBGOLB Member Posts: 58
    Who was map 6 miniboss
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 10,702 ★★★★★
    GOLB said:

    Who was map 6 miniboss

    Ebony mav. For this week
  • Ascoop24Ascoop24 Member Posts: 128 ★★★
    The end of this round of alliance quest is coming soon have you started or come up with any sort of compensation for everyone effected by these mess ups? Not clearing map 7 or iteming out because the nodes weren’t working properly. Not running the normal amount of map 7 due to this problem. I think at the very least everyone effected by this should get last weeks aq rewards plus whatever we earned this week. Plus some alliance pots since almost everyone had to use items to do map 7.
  • PurpleIsPimpinPurpleIsPimpin Member Posts: 48
    Some pots? I would hope all pots I used would be given back based on how bugged cant stop wont stop was in section 1. I drained my stash and my glory to work around a broken node
  • Ascoop24Ascoop24 Member Posts: 128 ★★★

    Some pots? I would hope all pots I used would be given back based on how bugged cant stop wont stop was in section 1. I drained my stash and my glory to work around a broken node

    I agree but also have to be mindful of how they typically do compensation it’s never exactly what you used. Do I think every person like myself that itemed out should get all 15 items back yes I do but I know that won’t happen. What I suggest is probably more along the lines of what we should at the very least be given.
    Last weeks aq rank and milestone rewards
    Along with some pots and revives.
  • UbersoulUbersoul Member Posts: 53
    Any update on compensation?
  • Jawarrior2001Jawarrior2001 Member Posts: 303
    Has anything been said about Luke Cage not going indestructable vs Thanos in alliance quests? I dont think I've seen any abilties/nodes that would prevent it from happening? Could but wrong but not sure.
  • VincentblackVincentblack Member Posts: 14
    These changes have been really tough for the community and I think even if you give out compensation and promise future changes it still isn't enough. How many times as a community do you expect us to suffer through live testing a game that rakes in boatloads of cash at the cost of our own items/units and sanity while not seeing an increase in rewards for possibly one of the hardest AQ ever. Simply fighting hype 1 time revealed he was incredibly OP I don't really see how that's an acceptable "bug" that slips by. I love this game and honestly at this time with these changes it's really not fun to play and the damage is done. Rage quits have come back into style and that should speak volumes
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,672 ★★★★★
    I'd like to thank the map 7 bugs for helping us get top 90 with just map 6 lol
  • SarcasticTaurusSarcasticTaurus Member Posts: 446 ★★★
    Love the hot new Season 6 Map crystals. :)
  • Zuko_ILCZuko_ILC Member Posts: 1,508 ★★★★★
    Season 6 with season 5 rewards......difficulty increased but......I mean really come on man!
  • StarhawkStarhawk Member Posts: 631 ★★★
    edited June 2019
    hey guys why am i still getting season 5 crystals? i'm owed a bunch of Season 6 crystals.

    I need the resources but i'm afraid you guys won't be able to give me my proper rewards if i open them. when is this going to be fixed? Can i open them and still get some kind of compensation later?
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 5,578 ★★★★★
    Starhawk said:

    hey guys why am i still getting season 5 crystals? i'm owed a bunch of Season 6 crystals.

    I need the resources but i'm afraid you guys won't be able to give me my proper rewards if i open them. when is this going to be fixed? Can i open them and still get some kind of compensation later?

    There is no season 6 crystals yet. They are updating them later
  • OmegaManOmegaMan Member Posts: 383 ★★★
    Yes yes let’s start a new season and give last seasons crystals. This is a great plan nobody will ever know unless they read “season 5” crystals when they open them.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 5,578 ★★★★★
    Mcord117 said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Starhawk said:

    hey guys why am i still getting season 5 crystals? i'm owed a bunch of Season 6 crystals.

    I need the resources but i'm afraid you guys won't be able to give me my proper rewards if i open them. when is this going to be fixed? Can i open them and still get some kind of compensation later?

    There is no season 6 crystals yet. They are updating them later
    Later like when? In time for season 7?
    They havent said exactly how long but they said they had to gather data and itll probably take a couple series of the new aq
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,672 ★★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    Mcord117 said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Starhawk said:

    hey guys why am i still getting season 5 crystals? i'm owed a bunch of Season 6 crystals.

    I need the resources but i'm afraid you guys won't be able to give me my proper rewards if i open them. when is this going to be fixed? Can i open them and still get some kind of compensation later?

    There is no season 6 crystals yet. They are updating them later
    Later like when? In time for season 7?
    They havent said exactly how long but they said they had to gather data and itll probably take a couple series of the new aq
    The have to gather data in order to release season 6 crystals? That doesn't make sense. Can you post the actual announcement?
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 5,578 ★★★★★

    Buttehrs said:

    Mcord117 said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Starhawk said:

    hey guys why am i still getting season 5 crystals? i'm owed a bunch of Season 6 crystals.

    I need the resources but i'm afraid you guys won't be able to give me my proper rewards if i open them. when is this going to be fixed? Can i open them and still get some kind of compensation later?

    There is no season 6 crystals yet. They are updating them later
    Later like when? In time for season 7?
    They havent said exactly how long but they said they had to gather data and itll probably take a couple series of the new aq
    The have to gather data in order to release season 6 crystals? That doesn't make sense. Can you post the actual announcement?

  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,672 ★★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Mcord117 said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Starhawk said:

    hey guys why am i still getting season 5 crystals? i'm owed a bunch of Season 6 crystals.

    I need the resources but i'm afraid you guys won't be able to give me my proper rewards if i open them. when is this going to be fixed? Can i open them and still get some kind of compensation later?

    There is no season 6 crystals yet. They are updating them later
    Later like when? In time for season 7?
    They havent said exactly how long but they said they had to gather data and itll probably take a couple series of the new aq
    The have to gather data in order to release season 6 crystals? That doesn't make sense. Can you post the actual announcement?

    I see. I didn't interpret that as applying to the map crystals but rather to milestones/rank and possibly the completion of the map rewards. Call me crazy but I assumed that season six would start with season six crystals lol. I guess we will have to wait for @Kabam Miike or someone to confirm if we are getting the wrong crystals or if the crystals fall into the "a little later" category.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 5,578 ★★★★★

    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Mcord117 said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Starhawk said:

    hey guys why am i still getting season 5 crystals? i'm owed a bunch of Season 6 crystals.

    I need the resources but i'm afraid you guys won't be able to give me my proper rewards if i open them. when is this going to be fixed? Can i open them and still get some kind of compensation later?

    There is no season 6 crystals yet. They are updating them later
    Later like when? In time for season 7?
    They havent said exactly how long but they said they had to gather data and itll probably take a couple series of the new aq
    The have to gather data in order to release season 6 crystals? That doesn't make sense. Can you post the actual announcement?

    I see. I didn't interpret that as applying to the map crystals but rather to milestones/rank and possibly the completion of the map rewards. Call me crazy but I assumed that season six would start with season six crystals lol. I guess we will have to wait for @Kabam Miike or someone to confirm if we are getting the wrong crystals or if the crystals fall into the "a little later" category.
    Well since the next two paragraphs detail the map and rank rewards the only possibility left for "later" is updated map season crystals lol
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,672 ★★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Mcord117 said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Starhawk said:

    hey guys why am i still getting season 5 crystals? i'm owed a bunch of Season 6 crystals.

    I need the resources but i'm afraid you guys won't be able to give me my proper rewards if i open them. when is this going to be fixed? Can i open them and still get some kind of compensation later?

    There is no season 6 crystals yet. They are updating them later
    Later like when? In time for season 7?
    They havent said exactly how long but they said they had to gather data and itll probably take a couple series of the new aq
    The have to gather data in order to release season 6 crystals? That doesn't make sense. Can you post the actual announcement?

    I see. I didn't interpret that as applying to the map crystals but rather to milestones/rank and possibly the completion of the map rewards. Call me crazy but I assumed that season six would start with season six crystals lol. I guess we will have to wait for @Kabam Miike or someone to confirm if we are getting the wrong crystals or if the crystals fall into the "a little later" category.
    Well since the next two paragraphs detail the map and rank rewards the only possibility left for "later" is updated map season crystals lol
    I'd be surprised if that's what they meant by "our bigger rewards update." Don't think the next two paragraphs were exhaustive. But I've been wrong before.
  • Ascoop24Ascoop24 Member Posts: 128 ★★★
    Any update with map 7 or compensation packages?
  • Kabam MiikeKabam Miike Moderator Posts: 8,269
    tafre said:

    Still no update on any compensation for the map7 and map5 fiasco? Not really unexpected but very disappointing.

    Not yet. It's only been a couple days, and it's going to take longer than that before we can get this all together.

    There were a few issues, so we're still evaluating how many issues affected people, and how much.
  • TomBrady12TomBrady12 Member Posts: 85
    Have the nodes in the other 2 iterations of map 7 been tested? I'm afraid we're gonna have to do this all again next week.
  • Ascoop24Ascoop24 Member Posts: 128 ★★★
    Mcord117 said:

    I don’t see them compensating much here. Honestly any map 7 past day 1 was a choice. I am not trying to be an apologist but once everyone knew it was broken it was 100% free will to run it

    That’s a fair statement but what about those who typically run more then one day of map 7 and because of the bug decided not to run more and just do map 6? They didn’t place where they usually should and if they weren’t able to at least drop the boss they would have taken a prestige hit and not gotten as many points the rest of the week. That’s why I suggested earlier that everyone would get last weeks aq rank and milestones rewards as well as some pots and revives to compensate for spending to get thru the first day and for not placing where you should have.
  • Kabam MiikeKabam Miike Moderator Posts: 8,269
    Summoners,

    We have just pushed the following fixes and changes for Alliance Quests Maps 4, 5, and 7:

    Map 7:
    - Swapping the Bleed Node on She-Hulk with Can't Stop Won't Stop
    - Removing Buff Duration from The Champion and reducing 100% Power Gain to 50% Power Gain

    Map 5:
    - Reducing Both Hyperion Mini-Boss's Empathic Lock 3 to Empathic Lock 1
    - Swapping Oscillate for Sadist on Hyperion Mini-Boss

    Map 4:
    - Swapping Force of Will with Unblockable Specials on the Thanos Boss

    These should be live in game very soon.

    Thank you all for your patience.
  • SWGOH_MosDefSWGOH_MosDef Member Posts: 145
    have heard a couple mentions of 'compensation is under consideration', and have a question about whether switching alliances before compensation is announced/delivered will jeopardize ability to receive them.

    I know of a few people in top AQ alliances, mostly those that are F2P, that need to step down for a bit to build resources back up after this week's fiasco... will they be punished, or will they still receive same comp that they would if they stayed in their current map 7 ally?
  • RaganatorRaganator Member Posts: 2,533 ★★★★★
    edited June 2019

    Summoners,

    We have just pushed the following fixes and changes for Alliance Quests Maps 4, 5, and 7:

    Map 7:
    - Swapping the Bleed Node on She-Hulk with Can't Stop Won't Stop
    - Removing Buff Duration from The Champion and reducing 100% Power Gain to 50% Power Gain

    Map 5:
    - Reducing Both Hyperion Mini-Boss's Empathic Lock 3 to Empathic Lock 1
    - Swapping Oscillate for Sadist on Hyperion Mini-Boss

    Map 4:
    - Swapping Force of Will with Unblockable Specials on the Thanos Boss

    These should be live in game very soon.

    Thank you all for your patience.

    I'm confused. Are you reverted back to how it was at the start of the week and then making these changes? Or, are these on top of the reduced difficulty on days 4 and 5? How is adding another CSWS node the answer to everything after what happened last week? Is it only reduced power gain on Champion or on all the nodes?
  • Ultra8529Ultra8529 Member Posts: 526 ★★★

    Summoners,

    We have just pushed the following fixes and changes for Alliance Quests Maps 4, 5, and 7:

    Map 7:
    - Swapping the Bleed Node on She-Hulk with Can't Stop Won't Stop
    - Removing Buff Duration from The Champion and reducing 100% Power Gain to 50% Power Gain

    Map 5:
    - Reducing Both Hyperion Mini-Boss's Empathic Lock 3 to Empathic Lock 1
    - Swapping Oscillate for Sadist on Hyperion Mini-Boss

    Map 4:
    - Swapping Force of Will with Unblockable Specials on the Thanos Boss

    These should be live in game very soon.

    Thank you all for your patience.

    The solution to a broken node is to apply that node to another fight in AQ? Genius.

    Does this mean that we are not to be expecting any further adjustments to the cant stop wont stop node in general? What about tuning the buff and power gain when the attacker is unstoppable?

    Also, what about the reported bugs about the falter node??
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