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  • Nick_Caine_32Nick_Caine_32 Member Posts: 587 ★★★★
    Pulyaman said:




    If you don't have the roster or skills to do it, then it's not for you

    Huh? Use your common sense big guy. You don't have to defend Kabam about literally everything. This is not about having the skills or roster, it's about common sense. What kind of common sense goes into making a 1.4 million health Silver Surfer with insanely niche nodes (need a consistent armor breaker or coldsnap immune) AND you can only use 4 star champions. 4 STAR CHAMPIONS. The last time I've upgraded a 4 star champion was a long, long time ago. And all of this for 3k 5 star shards?! Pathetic.
    It's optional. You don't have to do it. They made a challenging quest to make us think outside the box. It's free to try and you can attempt it as much as you want. I tried it and after a couple attempts, for sure not going to waste my time on it. They said all along that this was supposed to be a very hard challenge.
    Think outside the box? In what way? Literally the only requirement for this fight is skill and a cold snap immune champ. Colossus is going to own the leaderboard since he’s the hardest hitting coldsnap immune champ.
    Coldsnap immune is not the only way to go. There's a much larger group of Champions that have access to Armor Break, and that ability does not activate when Armor Broken. I am definitely not the most skilled player here, but I found the most success with Medusa using the Karnak synergy. One heavy attack and that ability is finished for the whole fight.
    Can you maybe provide a video of this? I’m trying to do this and my armor breaks after doing a heavy aren’t permanent like the synergy says. It looks permanent after the first one when I do a heavy, and then the second I do another armor break they start to fall off/time out. I haven’t been able to recreate this with 4 tries now.

    Or maybe someone else can enlighten me if I’m doing it wrong?
    May be you are inflicting 6 armor breaks and it gets converted into armor shatter. I think the synergy says you can inflict max 4 permanent armor breaks. If you get to six, they get converted and armor shatter is not permanent.
    Nope it’s before I’m getting to armor shatter. I have video proof too. I do one heavy at the start, it shows the armor break with the permanent icon. The second you do another heavy or medium to apply another armor break, it starts to time out and disappears. The opposite of permanent and definitely not the easy application Miike was describing. I have used Medusa for years, so I’m pretty sure I understand the difference between the break and shatter. Would love to know exactly how people are getting “up to 4 permanent armor breaks” doing this when I can’t recreate it in multiple fights.
  • Kabam MiikeKabam Miike Moderator Posts: 8,269

    Pulyaman said:




    If you don't have the roster or skills to do it, then it's not for you

    Huh? Use your common sense big guy. You don't have to defend Kabam about literally everything. This is not about having the skills or roster, it's about common sense. What kind of common sense goes into making a 1.4 million health Silver Surfer with insanely niche nodes (need a consistent armor breaker or coldsnap immune) AND you can only use 4 star champions. 4 STAR CHAMPIONS. The last time I've upgraded a 4 star champion was a long, long time ago. And all of this for 3k 5 star shards?! Pathetic.
    It's optional. You don't have to do it. They made a challenging quest to make us think outside the box. It's free to try and you can attempt it as much as you want. I tried it and after a couple attempts, for sure not going to waste my time on it. They said all along that this was supposed to be a very hard challenge.
    Think outside the box? In what way? Literally the only requirement for this fight is skill and a cold snap immune champ. Colossus is going to own the leaderboard since he’s the hardest hitting coldsnap immune champ.
    Coldsnap immune is not the only way to go. There's a much larger group of Champions that have access to Armor Break, and that ability does not activate when Armor Broken. I am definitely not the most skilled player here, but I found the most success with Medusa using the Karnak synergy. One heavy attack and that ability is finished for the whole fight.
    Can you maybe provide a video of this? I’m trying to do this and my armor breaks after doing a heavy aren’t permanent like the synergy says. It looks permanent after the first one when I do a heavy, and then the second I do another armor break they start to fall off/time out. I haven’t been able to recreate this with 4 tries now.

    Or maybe someone else can enlighten me if I’m doing it wrong?
    May be you are inflicting 6 armor breaks and it gets converted into armor shatter. I think the synergy says you can inflict max 4 permanent armor breaks. If you get to six, they get converted and armor shatter is not permanent.
    Nope it’s before I’m getting to armor shatter. I have video proof too. I do one heavy at the start, it shows the armor break with the permanent icon. The second you do another heavy or medium to apply another armor break, it starts to time out and disappears. The opposite of permanent and definitely not the easy application Miike was describing. I have used Medusa for years, so I’m pretty sure I understand the difference between the break and shatter. Would love to know exactly how people are getting “up to 4 permanent armor breaks” doing this when I can’t recreate it in multiple fights.
    Does your Permanent one disappear, or just the temporary ones that you place after?
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  • Nick_Caine_32Nick_Caine_32 Member Posts: 587 ★★★★
    Well I just recorded it again and it is working it seems. You just can’t trigger an armor shattered or it falls off...which seems like a really hard way to use her and makes for a super long fight.

  • MagrailothosMagrailothos Member Posts: 5,953 ★★★★★
    edited August 2020

    Pulyaman said:

    Anyone try mephisto? Just grasping at a straw on that one.

    Actually a good call. His damage is meh. But if you can get him to sp2 and fire an sp3 you get a permanent aura making tour damage decent. He has some synergies that increase his aura damage too.
    I might give it a go. I have a 4-5 mystic rank up gem. I also have mystic dispersion.

    I tried it, but don't actually recommend it. He kind of works (but only for a while):
    First you'll need a synergy partners like DS/GR, otherwise you'll do no Incinerate damage at all.
    I added DS, Hela, Guillotine and Heimdall, so I could effectively gain an extra soul, plus permanent Fury+Precision buffs. That gave me a lot of extra power gain.
    Quick up to an SP3, drain SS's Power and get a permanent aura for more power.
    Throw SP1s and 2s for buff control and a bit of damage.

    Unfortunately, Mephisto runs out of souls and can't control buffs thereafter; plus his base damage is meh, and worsened by SS's resistance to Incinerate. So starting with three souls and Hela, you've got an absolute maximum of five Soul Imprisonments (that's 75 seconds), after which SS starts accruing buffs and you're in serious trouble.
    Reviving your way through isn't a great option: if you die and revive, you start the next match with no souls...

    So Mephisto can start out okay, but IMO, he's not an option that can carry you through a fight against an opponent with 1.3 million health.

  • LilMaddogHTLilMaddogHT Member Posts: 1,203 ★★★★
    I haven't touched 4*s in a really long time. Most don't even go to 3/30 because of the cost of the T1A :D . I figured I could spare a couple T4B/T1A to take Col from R3 to R4 though to speed this up some. Definitely 1-shot'able but not worth the time to spend after initial completion, I've had L1 revives expiring like crazy so NBD.

    I don't mind the difficulty but just sad that the ShowDown option isn't more like NYCC where you get to pick/use any champ at maxed. So many good options but none will see my resources as 4*s. Fingers crossed for future weeks that I got something able to compete at 5/50 but not counting on it.









  • Nick_Caine_32Nick_Caine_32 Member Posts: 587 ★★★★

    Pulyaman said:




    If you don't have the roster or skills to do it, then it's not for you

    Huh? Use your common sense big guy. You don't have to defend Kabam about literally everything. This is not about having the skills or roster, it's about common sense. What kind of common sense goes into making a 1.4 million health Silver Surfer with insanely niche nodes (need a consistent armor breaker or coldsnap immune) AND you can only use 4 star champions. 4 STAR CHAMPIONS. The last time I've upgraded a 4 star champion was a long, long time ago. And all of this for 3k 5 star shards?! Pathetic.
    It's optional. You don't have to do it. They made a challenging quest to make us think outside the box. It's free to try and you can attempt it as much as you want. I tried it and after a couple attempts, for sure not going to waste my time on it. They said all along that this was supposed to be a very hard challenge.
    Think outside the box? In what way? Literally the only requirement for this fight is skill and a cold snap immune champ. Colossus is going to own the leaderboard since he’s the hardest hitting coldsnap immune champ.
    Coldsnap immune is not the only way to go. There's a much larger group of Champions that have access to Armor Break, and that ability does not activate when Armor Broken. I am definitely not the most skilled player here, but I found the most success with Medusa using the Karnak synergy. One heavy attack and that ability is finished for the whole fight.
    Can you maybe provide a video of this? I’m trying to do this and my armor breaks after doing a heavy aren’t permanent like the synergy says. It looks permanent after the first one when I do a heavy, and then the second I do another armor break they start to fall off/time out. I haven’t been able to recreate this with 4 tries now.

    Or maybe someone else can enlighten me if I’m doing it wrong?
    May be you are inflicting 6 armor breaks and it gets converted into armor shatter. I think the synergy says you can inflict max 4 permanent armor breaks. If you get to six, they get converted and armor shatter is not permanent.
    Nope it’s before I’m getting to armor shatter. I have video proof too. I do one heavy at the start, it shows the armor break with the permanent icon. The second you do another heavy or medium to apply another armor break, it starts to time out and disappears. The opposite of permanent and definitely not the easy application Miike was describing. I have used Medusa for years, so I’m pretty sure I understand the difference between the break and shatter. Would love to know exactly how people are getting “up to 4 permanent armor breaks” doing this when I can’t recreate it in multiple fights.
    Does your Permanent one disappear, or just the temporary ones that you place after?

    Ignore my previous messages lol. It’s working fine, it just makes for a long fight if you’re not doing the armor shatter. I can’t play without using mediums so it was hard to see if they were staying on or not. Thanks for the answer though
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    King09712 said:

    bitter disappointment again, sadly was excited to try the basic one then saw you fed the whales again forgetting the normal players. That is not worth 3,000 shards not when people have to rank up etc champions that will sit on the side line again afterwards. Again Rich get richer while normal every day players seem to scraps. You need to find balance between Beginner > Intermediate > UC > Cav and balance content to match it with adaquite prizes to do that content.

    I am not saying the rewards have to be amazing for lower tier, but should also toss us a bone every once in awhile.

    Bones: Bosh rush x6

    it seems "every once in a while" means every time there is some content.
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,941 ★★★★★

    Kabam: This is Blah! Blah! Blah! It means to be challenging.
    Me: Sure! Challenge is accepted. But, 3,000 shards and that 5-star? Seems like Me going to kill John Cena for 5 bucks.

    Challenge is not an issue, the reward is that sucks.

    but why would you kill John Cena in the first place
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Jaded said:

    Lormif said:

    King09712 said:

    bitter disappointment again, sadly was excited to try the basic one then saw you fed the whales again forgetting the normal players. That is not worth 3,000 shards not when people have to rank up etc champions that will sit on the side line again afterwards. Again Rich get richer while normal every day players seem to scraps. You need to find balance between Beginner > Intermediate > UC > Cav and balance content to match it with adaquite prizes to do that content.

    I am not saying the rewards have to be amazing for lower tier, but should also toss us a bone every once in awhile.

    Bones: Bosh rush x6

    it seems "every once in a while" means every time there is some content.
    You really don’t add much to the forums. Always a waste of time reading your garbage.
    You not liking my opinions does not mean I dont add anything the forums, I can say the same for yours.
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★

    Lormif said:

    King09712 said:

    bitter disappointment again, sadly was excited to try the basic one then saw you fed the whales again forgetting the normal players. That is not worth 3,000 shards not when people have to rank up etc champions that will sit on the side line again afterwards. Again Rich get richer while normal every day players seem to scraps. You need to find balance between Beginner > Intermediate > UC > Cav and balance content to match it with adaquite prizes to do that content.

    I am not saying the rewards have to be amazing for lower tier, but should also toss us a bone every once in awhile.

    Bones: Bosh rush x6

    it seems "every once in a while" means every time there is some content.
    Why do you feel the need to argue with every player voicing their opinion and disapproval of this event in here? Are they not allowed to state their opinion without you taking swipes at them? Man, between you, GW and demonfyze it’s like clockwork.

    Great, fine, we get it. You don’t think there’s anything wrong with this. Why are you spending your time going after everyone who doesn’t think the same? Do you really think it’s productive or appropriate or do you think you’re gonna change their minds?

    They play the game too and should be able to tell kabam how they feel without getting blasted by the same repeat offenders on here.
    Why do you feel the need to argue with every player voicing their opinion and approval of the events in here? Are they not allowed without you taking swipes at them.

    Great, fine, we get it. You think there is something wrong with this. Why are you spending your time going after everyone who doesn't think the same? Do you really think it’s productive or appropriate or do you think you’re gonna change their minds?


    You guys are not the only people who are allowed to express their opinions and disagree with others. Stop trying to block off others beliefs and discussions just because you want to solely be able to express your own without any regard for the other side.
  • Jedi_HawkeJedi_Hawke Member Posts: 955 ★★★
    @Magrailothos appreciate it. I think I have what I need with colossus, HT, medusa, and venom. Will keep trying. I refuse to use a revive until I can take a large chunk of his life down. Right now I am averaging only 3-5% per fight. But my concentration isn’t there right now. Will try again another day.
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Jaded said:

    Lormif said:

    Jaded said:

    Lormif said:

    King09712 said:

    bitter disappointment again, sadly was excited to try the basic one then saw you fed the whales again forgetting the normal players. That is not worth 3,000 shards not when people have to rank up etc champions that will sit on the side line again afterwards. Again Rich get richer while normal every day players seem to scraps. You need to find balance between Beginner > Intermediate > UC > Cav and balance content to match it with adaquite prizes to do that content.

    I am not saying the rewards have to be amazing for lower tier, but should also toss us a bone every once in awhile.

    Bones: Bosh rush x6

    it seems "every once in a while" means every time there is some content.
    You really don’t add much to the forums. Always a waste of time reading your garbage.
    You not liking my opinions does not mean I dont add anything the forums, I can say the same for yours.
    I’m not here spewing garbage about how this content is okay. You are, then proceed to shame anyone that has any opinion opposite to yours. So yes, you can say whatever you want about me. But you’re clearly in denial of your purpose. I already know I’m Jaded.
    You are stating an opinion, I am stating an opinion. You are shaming others who has any opinion opposite yours. You are doing the same exact thing you accuse me of, atleast I am using logic. Those in glass houses.
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★

    Lormif said:

    Lormif said:

    King09712 said:

    bitter disappointment again, sadly was excited to try the basic one then saw you fed the whales again forgetting the normal players. That is not worth 3,000 shards not when people have to rank up etc champions that will sit on the side line again afterwards. Again Rich get richer while normal every day players seem to scraps. You need to find balance between Beginner > Intermediate > UC > Cav and balance content to match it with adaquite prizes to do that content.

    I am not saying the rewards have to be amazing for lower tier, but should also toss us a bone every once in awhile.

    Bones: Bosh rush x6

    it seems "every once in a while" means every time there is some content.
    Why do you feel the need to argue with every player voicing their opinion and disapproval of this event in here? Are they not allowed to state their opinion without you taking swipes at them? Man, between you, GW and demonfyze it’s like clockwork.

    Great, fine, we get it. You don’t think there’s anything wrong with this. Why are you spending your time going after everyone who doesn’t think the same? Do you really think it’s productive or appropriate or do you think you’re gonna change their minds?

    They play the game too and should be able to tell kabam how they feel without getting blasted by the same repeat offenders on here.
    Why do you feel the need to argue with every player voicing their opinion and approval of the events in here? Are they not allowed without you taking swipes at them.

    Great, fine, we get it. You think there is something wrong with this. Why are you spending your time going after everyone who doesn't think the same? Do you really think it’s productive or appropriate or do you think you’re gonna change their minds?


    You guys are not the only people who are allowed to express their opinions and disagree with others. Stop trying to block off others beliefs and discussions just because you want to solely be able to express your own without any regard for the other side.
    The problem is you are going after everyone who says this is bad or not worth the effort, and doing so in a mainly derogatory manner
    Not everyone, and not in a derogatory is not a bad word, and again you are doing the same thing.
  • LordSmasherLordSmasher Member Posts: 1,564 ★★★★★
    I think its fine, its just giving the option to have a go at the Showdown with a full team.

    As for the rewards, they are **** for the effort but at least that makes skipping it less of FOMO thing.
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  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,941 ★★★★★
    Lormif said:

    Lormif said:

    Lormif said:

    King09712 said:

    bitter disappointment again, sadly was excited to try the basic one then saw you fed the whales again forgetting the normal players. That is not worth 3,000 shards not when people have to rank up etc champions that will sit on the side line again afterwards. Again Rich get richer while normal every day players seem to scraps. You need to find balance between Beginner > Intermediate > UC > Cav and balance content to match it with adaquite prizes to do that content.

    I am not saying the rewards have to be amazing for lower tier, but should also toss us a bone every once in awhile.

    Bones: Bosh rush x6

    it seems "every once in a while" means every time there is some content.
    Why do you feel the need to argue with every player voicing their opinion and disapproval of this event in here? Are they not allowed to state their opinion without you taking swipes at them? Man, between you, GW and demonfyze it’s like clockwork.

    Great, fine, we get it. You don’t think there’s anything wrong with this. Why are you spending your time going after everyone who doesn’t think the same? Do you really think it’s productive or appropriate or do you think you’re gonna change their minds?

    They play the game too and should be able to tell kabam how they feel without getting blasted by the same repeat offenders on here.
    Why do you feel the need to argue with every player voicing their opinion and approval of the events in here? Are they not allowed without you taking swipes at them.

    Great, fine, we get it. You think there is something wrong with this. Why are you spending your time going after everyone who doesn't think the same? Do you really think it’s productive or appropriate or do you think you’re gonna change their minds?


    You guys are not the only people who are allowed to express their opinions and disagree with others. Stop trying to block off others beliefs and discussions just because you want to solely be able to express your own without any regard for the other side.
    The problem is you are going after everyone who says this is bad or not worth the effort, and doing so in a mainly derogatory manner
    Not everyone, and not in a derogatory is not a bad word, and again you are doing the same thing.
    how? Generally curious.
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★

    Lormif said:

    Lormif said:

    Lormif said:

    King09712 said:

    bitter disappointment again, sadly was excited to try the basic one then saw you fed the whales again forgetting the normal players. That is not worth 3,000 shards not when people have to rank up etc champions that will sit on the side line again afterwards. Again Rich get richer while normal every day players seem to scraps. You need to find balance between Beginner > Intermediate > UC > Cav and balance content to match it with adaquite prizes to do that content.

    I am not saying the rewards have to be amazing for lower tier, but should also toss us a bone every once in awhile.

    Bones: Bosh rush x6

    it seems "every once in a while" means every time there is some content.
    Why do you feel the need to argue with every player voicing their opinion and disapproval of this event in here? Are they not allowed to state their opinion without you taking swipes at them? Man, between you, GW and demonfyze it’s like clockwork.

    Great, fine, we get it. You don’t think there’s anything wrong with this. Why are you spending your time going after everyone who doesn’t think the same? Do you really think it’s productive or appropriate or do you think you’re gonna change their minds?

    They play the game too and should be able to tell kabam how they feel without getting blasted by the same repeat offenders on here.
    Why do you feel the need to argue with every player voicing their opinion and approval of the events in here? Are they not allowed without you taking swipes at them.

    Great, fine, we get it. You think there is something wrong with this. Why are you spending your time going after everyone who doesn't think the same? Do you really think it’s productive or appropriate or do you think you’re gonna change their minds?


    You guys are not the only people who are allowed to express their opinions and disagree with others. Stop trying to block off others beliefs and discussions just because you want to solely be able to express your own without any regard for the other side.
    The problem is you are going after everyone who says this is bad or not worth the effort, and doing so in a mainly derogatory manner
    Not everyone, and not in a derogatory is not a bad word, and again you are doing the same thing.
    how? Generally curious.
    You mean like telling people to just "don’t even try with this guy", that is pretty disrespectful.
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