@Kabam Miike Here are my thoughts on why this event is poorly designed :
The summer showdown is a competition where you have to do your best to qualified. You don’t have to beat the surfer (but it’s better), just do your best and eventually be the the best in your region to be qualified for the rest of the competition. You expect no rewards and have only one try at a time. It can be fun and a good training for people who wish to test their skill. There is challenge and even if the fight gets frustrating, at least you can compare your skill against others, notably other known youtubers ... why not
For those who cannot participate in the showdown, we have the showup which is the exact replica of the showdown with one exception : you MUST beat the surfer to get rewards and move to the next week. And to beat it we have... 4 stars only. The kind of champion uncollected and cavalier summoner stopped ranking up because act 6 forbade us to use and the ressources to rank them up are better used for our 5 stars. But ok why not... if you happen to have a duped medusa ou Colossus you might have a chance to beat the surfer, just to win 3000 5-stars shards 😑
So player have to spend time, even ressources in order to rank up some decent 4 stars, maybe use revive, get a bit frustrated trying a few fight for 3000 5-stars shards ? The variant 5 was challenging, fun and gave nice rewards, the new boss rush are fun too (by the way there is one tomorrow that will give us better rewards), the heralds of galactus quests are challenging and rewarding but this showup of your is all but fun, challenging and rewarding ! You completely miss the mark on this event
Oh and i forgot another point. Because of the nodes, you are limited to a few 4 stars champions so bye-bye Quake, Doom, symbiote supreme and every other champion not coldsnap immune or cannot armor break their opponent. Better have one of those already at rank 5 or you will have to spend those nice ressources in hope to get 3000 5-stars shards 😅
I don’t even talk about the week 2 where you will probably have to use, and maybe rank up, another specific 4 stars to get some juicy 3000 5-stars shards... wow amazing 😂
I think ghost(hood synergy as well) is the best but you need him to only throw sp3s
No, you can solo him with full Ghost, keeping him in SP2 and SP3 only. If he does throw SP1 you just run away. I solo with Full ghost in 3:00 ish. Wasn’t that bad, once you have the timing down.
The way Showup difficultly was marketed and portrayed was kinda misleading and bad. It was portrayed as something for everyone, a bit challenging, but doable and rewarding without having to toss an unfathomable amount of revives, potions, boosts, and rank up materials for 4*s.
The exact words were "This difficulty is just like the Showdown Difficulty with some key differences. You will be able to bring in a team of five Champions with the ability to use boosts and consumables. Scores completed in this difficulty will not be entered into the leaderboard and/or the official Summoner Showdown Tournament."
That said, I understand why people are upset. When we see content in-game, it's easy to view it as all the same. Every piece of content serving the same purpose, with it being account progression. That's not the case here. This is supplementary content that is a celebration of the Summoner Showdown and went live in a month that already has extra content like the Boss Rushes coming every week, and the Solo Objective tied to the Side Quest.
Regardless, I have made sure we've raised this sentiment to the team.
The problem isn’t necessarily the difficulty it is the difficulty for the rewards. The rewards are something the mid tier players could use, but the difficulty is outrageously out of proportion. This reminds me of The Maze, good content but I didn’t touch it as the rewards came nowhere close to being worth it. To put it in context, the summer smackdown gives 6k 5* shards and 500 6* shards is several orders of magnitude easier. It is disappointing, but I have the option to not do it. It makes me question rewards moving forward.
I think ghost(hood synergy as well) is the best but you need him to only throw sp3s
No, you can solo him with full Ghost, keeping him in SP2 and SP3 only. If he does throw SP1 you just run away. I solo with Full ghost in 3:00 ish. Wasn’t that bad, once you have the timing down.
Yeah my best was taking him down to 40 percent ish. Finished him with torch and medusa
After having a go at silver surfer 3 times now, I realize there's just really no point in spending more recourses trying to defeat this champ. I was so looking forward to this showdown, thought it could be the most epic tournament ever. When I saw SS's health, my heart stopped and I was just like..."oh hell no m8". In the end, with the weak rewards Kabam has offered, and that insane difficulty, it just isn't worth it.
I tried it with my medusa and it was pretty mind numbing lol. I got like 20% down and just put my phone down and was like nope. I think it's ok to have an event that is challenging like this and for rewards like this. just not something I'm in to. for those who are committed to it, good on you for stepping up to the challenge. personally, there's no incentive for me to do it. again, not a complaint, just saying this isn't my thing
If you like the fight, then play it and get the 3k shards. I soloed with a R4 Colossus. Got to half health with Medusa.
If you don’t like the fight, don’t do it.
If you think the rewards are very low (which I kinda agree), don’t do it.
It’s not a Variant or a new Act. It’s just 1 fight. Just don’t do it. You’re not really missing out on anything.
Personally, it was a fun fight for me. Took me A LOT of tries. But it’s completely free. Just went in again and again and again until I got it.
agree with this. disappointing for me, but not everything released is for everyone. a lot of people didn't like this, but many did and that's great. I feel like they did exaggerate the event a tiny bit but not a big deal
If you like the fight, then play it and get the 3k shards. I soloed with a R4 Colossus. Got to half health with Medusa.
If you don’t like the fight, don’t do it.
If you think the rewards are very low (which I kinda agree), don’t do it.
It’s not a Variant or a new Act. It’s just 1 fight. Just don’t do it. You’re not really missing out on anything.
Personally, it was a fun fight for me. Took me A LOT of tries. But it’s completely free. Just went in again and again and again until I got it.
I agree, ur not missing anything, but when Kabam announced that the showdown would be available to ALL summoners, everyone was like: "oh so it must be a very inclusive event, a decent challenge (obviously), CAn'T WAIt To TrY ThIS OUt. The rewards ain't half bad it looks like." *sees SS's health* "Ya, imma head out."
The way Showup difficultly was marketed and portrayed was kinda misleading and bad. It was portrayed as something for everyone, a bit challenging, but doable and rewarding without having to toss an unfathomable amount of revives, potions, boosts, and rank up materials for 4*s.
The exact words were "This difficulty is just like the Showdown Difficulty with some key differences. You will be able to bring in a team of five Champions with the ability to use boosts and consumables. Scores completed in this difficulty will not be entered into the leaderboard and/or the official Summoner Showdown Tournament."
That said, I understand why people are upset. When we see content in-game, it's easy to view it as all the same. Every piece of content serving the same purpose, with it being account progression. That's not the case here. This is supplementary content that is a celebration of the Summoner Showdown and went live in a month that already has extra content like the Boss Rushes coming every week, and the Solo Objective tied to the Side Quest.
Regardless, I have made sure we've raised this sentiment to the team.
The problem isn’t necessarily the difficulty it is the difficulty for the rewards. The rewards are something the mid tier players could use, but the difficulty is outrageously out of proportion. This reminds me of The Maze, good content but I didn’t touch it as the rewards came nowhere close to being worth it. To put it in context, the summer smackdown gives 6k 5* shards and 500 6* shards is several orders of magnitude easier. It is disappointing, but I have the option to not do it. It makes me question rewards moving forward.
You are missing the point. The quest where everyone can do it is just for kicks. It's not meant to help progression or anything of the sorts. The actual competition is what this whole thing is about. There are some serious rewards for it. That's the focus. The only reason they even did a 2nd quest is because of all the restrictions the actual contest has. They wanted everyone to see what they couldn't normally see.
@GroundedWisdom dude i use to think people bashed on you constently an felt like it was way over the top . but this is t the time to be pro kabam you literly are agruing against the truth . no wonder ppl are always on your case ... dude!
I have no idea what you're reading, but I've commented on techniques to take him down. Aside from the mistake I made about two different Quests. Even that has a point because if this was the Tournament, people would still have to compete the same hard challenge. I said the strategy Miike suggested works. You can Heavy Medusa with the Synergy because I tested it. I said Pyramid X is another option because of Ice Tempest. I said Curler was right because Colossus was a good option with the OR/Jugs Synergy. Those are all things I tested myself. I haven't commented on much else. It's one Fight per Chapter. Is it hard? Sure. It's supposed to be. It's a taste of the Tourney.
If people are fighting to get them to tone it down or something, I'm not arguing for or against that. So I'm not pro anything. I'm just looking at things that work. Colossus R5 L2 with that Synergy takes down the most Health I've seen thus far.
If you like the fight, then play it and get the 3k shards. I soloed with a R4 Colossus. Got to half health with Medusa.
If you don’t like the fight, don’t do it.
If you think the rewards are very low (which I kinda agree), don’t do it.
It’s not a Variant or a new Act. It’s just 1 fight. Just don’t do it. You’re not really missing out on anything.
Personally, it was a fun fight for me. Took me A LOT of tries. But it’s completely free. Just went in again and again and again until I got it.
I agree, ur not missing anything, but when Kabam announced that the showdown would be available to ALL summoners, everyone was like: "oh so it must be a very inclusive event, a decent challenge (obviously), CAn'T WAIt To TrY ThIS OUt. The rewards ain't half bad it looks like." *sees SS's health* "Ya, imma head out."
I agree with you and truly I get your point. But it’s just one fight. One. You won’t be missing out on good rewards, a title, a trophy champ, anything. It’s not this month’s side event, it’s not even a boss rush (which is a very small piece of content).
I never expected it to be as hard as it was either. And yeah. Maybe they should have toned it down. But I considered the fight a great challenge for myself and kept trying. It literally took me way more than 20 times to find the right synergy team to be able to solo with a R4 and I wouldn’t have ever, EVER, R5 Colossus for the fight. So if I couldn’t do it with the R4 I just wouldn’t have done it period. It would’ve made me sad that I couldn’t complete it but not as angry as some others are here.
If you like the fight, then play it and get the 3k shards. I soloed with a R4 Colossus. Got to half health with Medusa.
If you don’t like the fight, don’t do it.
If you think the rewards are very low (which I kinda agree), don’t do it.
It’s not a Variant or a new Act. It’s just 1 fight. Just don’t do it. You’re not really missing out on anything.
Personally, it was a fun fight for me. Took me A LOT of tries. But it’s completely free. Just went in again and again and again until I got it.
agree with this. disappointing for me, but not everything released is for everyone. a lot of people didn't like this, but many did and that's great. I feel like they did exaggerate the event a tiny bit but not a big deal
Exactly. And if it was a more consequential event like the month’s side event or part of the boss rushes I wouldn’t totally agree with everyone here and be as angry as them.
But really, this time, is just a little gift for some who want and like the grind to solo a boss. It’s definitely not worth any revives or rank up resources. If this seems fun do it, if not, don’t. You won’t miss out on anything of importance.
So I re-read the event description as I was wondering how my expectations and reality were so far apart...
In retrospect, what got me was the use of "EPIC". I immediately processed that as in line with typical Epic event difficulty and rewards. Seeing here where it says the difficulty is the same, but then referencing we can bring 5 total champs added to it. Kabam was very specific in the big boy pants level challenge to state the 4* restriction. They didn't mention any restrictions at all for the junior version. My assumption was I'd be trying with my max roster. That coupled with the invitation to all... and here we are at DEFCON 4.
I think I'm not the only one who read it that way based on the current overall reaction.
I'll give it a few more goes. I don't mind trying and failing a bit. But considering my last two 5*s were Jugs and a double dupe of Ronan... for me, the rewards don't justify the use of boosts or revives.
I tip my cap to those that get it done at this level, let alone the big boy pants level...
Mods, don't know if you are still paying attention, but maybe the Kabam PR team needs to consider a little more caution...and maybe a review by a lawyer.
Lol, seeing this again made me realize that they screwed up. Badly.
We encourage all our summoners to use the show up difficulty to challenge themselves.
1) Encouragement wise, this does a bad job at doing that. 2) 'All Summoners'. I can't get over those 2 words. Who all is doing this exactly? I hope this was a spelling error because this is NOT for all summoners. No matter their progression or level? Is that a joke?
Encourage ALL summoners.
All means all.
Everyone has 4*s
If you make the fight easy, such that anyone can beat it easily, then you dont challenge ALL. They did not say it would be easy for ALL, in fact they stated quite clearly in your own post it would be a challenge to them.
my alt that hasn't logged on in 3 months disagrees
When I saw the rewards I thought Show Up Difficulty will be similar to ROL. LOL is easier than this because you can take 5* and 6* champs. Doing this is like doing LOL with 4* champs. Not worth the time and effort.
If you like the fight, then play it and get the 3k shards. I soloed with a R4 Colossus. Got to half health with Medusa.
If you don’t like the fight, don’t do it.
If you think the rewards are very low (which I kinda agree), don’t do it.
It’s not a Variant or a new Act. It’s just 1 fight. Just don’t do it. You’re not really missing out on anything.
Personally, it was a fun fight for me. Took me A LOT of tries. But it’s completely free. Just went in again and again and again until I got it.
agree with this. disappointing for me, but not everything released is for everyone. a lot of people didn't like this, but many did and that's great. I feel like they did exaggerate the event a tiny bit but not a big deal
Exactly. And if it was a more consequential event like the month’s side event or part of the boss rushes I wouldn’t totally agree with everyone here and be as angry as them.
But really, this time, is just a little gift for some who want and like the grind to solo a boss. It’s definitely not worth any revives or rank up resources. If this seems fun do it, if not, don’t. You won’t miss out on anything of importance.
yeah the rewards are so insignificant it really doesn't matter if you cant do it or don't want to
If you like the fight, then play it and get the 3k shards. I soloed with a R4 Colossus. Got to half health with Medusa.
If you don’t like the fight, don’t do it.
If you think the rewards are very low (which I kinda agree), don’t do it.
It’s not a Variant or a new Act. It’s just 1 fight. Just don’t do it. You’re not really missing out on anything.
Personally, it was a fun fight for me. Took me A LOT of tries. But it’s completely free. Just went in again and again and again until I got it.
I agree, ur not missing anything, but when Kabam announced that the showdown would be available to ALL summoners, everyone was like: "oh so it must be a very inclusive event, a decent challenge (obviously), CAn'T WAIt To TrY ThIS OUt. The rewards ain't half bad it looks like." *sees SS's health* "Ya, imma head out."
I agree with you and truly I get your point. But it’s just one fight. One. You won’t be missing out on good rewards, a title, a trophy champ, anything. It’s not this month’s side event, it’s not even a boss rush (which is a very small piece of content).
I never expected it to be as hard as it was either. And yeah. Maybe they should have toned it down. But I considered the fight a great challenge for myself and kept trying. It literally took me way more than 20 times to find the right synergy team to be able to solo with a R4 and I wouldn’t have ever, EVER, R5 Colossus for the fight. So if I couldn’t do it with the R4 I just wouldn’t have done it period. It would’ve made me sad that I couldn’t complete it but not as angry as some others are here.
I highly agree with you. However, while YOU may have been able to complete the challenge. I estimate 85% of the other summoners went in and just couldn't do it. Kabam said that everyone could join the tournament, that you could test your skills. Well, how can you test your skills when SS's damage knocks each one of ur champions out in 30 seconds if you're lucky. That sparked the inevitably false belief that it was going to be a challenge of course, but not as hard as it was. The way Kabam advertised this built up hype but destroyed it for most of the summoners out there.
The reward is actually really good. I believe this fight is for endgame players who could do a long fight with some good skills in baiting and dexing the special from SS. without that long fight endurance, you absolutely gonna use items.
bitter disappointment again, sadly was excited to try the basic one then saw you fed the whales again forgetting the normal players. That is not worth 3,000 shards not when people have to rank up etc champions that will sit on the side line again afterwards. Again Rich get richer while normal every day players seem to scraps. You need to find balance between Beginner > Intermediate > UC > Cav and balance content to match it with adaquite prizes to do that content.
I am not saying the rewards have to be amazing for lower tier, but should also toss us a bone every once in awhile.
Bones: Bosh rush x6
it seems "every once in a while" means every time there is some content.
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Wow this thread has reached 18 pages, of which atleast 15.5 will be complains and the rest pointless defenses. Good work kabam!
Overall, the final verdict is this: For 3 weeks, Kabam built up a crazy amount of hype for a tournament that was going to be all INCLUSIVE, a place where ALL summoners could test their skills. Welp, the day finally came for the PARTICIPATION lvl, Kabam's greeting? Staring at a white box for an hour, then making most of us mindlessly spend resources to try and defeat SS. Most summoners either went in and couldn't do it, or just didn't do it at all. The ones who did end up making it had an extreme challenge as well, and for what...3k 5* shards and some gold! Kabam made a mistake, a large mistake, but that doesn't mean it can't improve in the future. @Kabam Miike this is a great game, keep it that way pls.
Well after several failed attempts with the champions and synergies people who beat it with used, I have come the conclusion that I suck lol. I mean really suck. My best was taking 12% life from silver surfer, and that wasn’t with 1 champ, that was with all 5. I gotta git more gud.
My consolation is that i can get gold and 5shards in several ways in this game. Now if the rewards were T5cc and T5 basic I might be crying on the inside.
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Here are my thoughts on why this event is poorly designed :
The summer showdown is a competition where you have to do your best to qualified.
You don’t have to beat the surfer (but it’s better), just do your best and eventually be the the best in your region to be qualified for the rest of the competition.
You expect no rewards and have only one try at a time.
It can be fun and a good training for people who wish to test their skill.
There is challenge and even if the fight gets frustrating, at least you can compare your skill against others, notably other known youtubers ... why not
For those who cannot participate in the showdown, we have the showup which is the exact replica of the showdown with one exception : you MUST beat the surfer to get rewards and move to the next week.
And to beat it we have... 4 stars only. The kind of champion uncollected and cavalier summoner stopped ranking up because act 6 forbade us to use and the ressources to rank them up are better used for our 5 stars.
But ok why not... if you happen to have a duped medusa ou Colossus you might have a chance to beat the surfer, just to win 3000 5-stars shards 😑
So player have to spend time, even ressources in order to rank up some decent 4 stars, maybe use revive, get a bit frustrated trying a few fight for 3000 5-stars shards ?
The variant 5 was challenging, fun and gave nice rewards, the new boss rush are fun too (by the way there is one tomorrow that will give us better rewards), the heralds of galactus quests are challenging and rewarding but this showup of your is all but fun, challenging and rewarding !
You completely miss the mark on this event
Because of the nodes, you are limited to a few 4 stars champions so bye-bye Quake, Doom, symbiote supreme and every other champion not coldsnap immune or cannot armor break their opponent.
Better have one of those already at rank 5 or you will have to spend those nice ressources in hope to get 3000 5-stars shards 😅
I don’t even talk about the week 2 where you will probably have to use, and maybe rank up, another specific 4 stars to get some juicy 3000 5-stars shards... wow amazing 😂
This reminds me of The Maze, good content but I didn’t touch it as the rewards came nowhere close to being worth it.
To put it in context, the summer smackdown gives 6k 5* shards and 500 6* shards is several orders of magnitude easier.
It is disappointing, but I have the option to not do it. It makes me question rewards moving forward.
In the end, with the weak rewards Kabam has offered, and that insane difficulty, it just isn't worth it.
If you like the fight, then play it and get the 3k shards. I soloed with a R4 Colossus.
Got to half health with Medusa.
If you don’t like the fight, don’t do it.
If you think the rewards are very low (which I kinda agree), don’t do it.
It’s not a Variant or a new Act. It’s just 1 fight. Just don’t do it. You’re not really missing out on anything.
Personally, it was a fun fight for me. Took me A LOT of tries. But it’s completely free. Just went in again and again and again until I got it.
I said the strategy Miike suggested works. You can Heavy Medusa with the Synergy because I tested it. I said Pyramid X is another option because of Ice Tempest. I said Curler was right because Colossus was a good option with the OR/Jugs Synergy. Those are all things I tested myself.
I haven't commented on much else. It's one Fight per Chapter. Is it hard? Sure. It's supposed to be. It's a taste of the Tourney.
You won’t be missing out on good rewards, a title, a trophy champ, anything. It’s not this month’s side event, it’s not even a boss rush (which is a very small piece of content).
I never expected it to be as hard as it was either. And yeah. Maybe they should have toned it down. But I considered the fight a great challenge for myself and kept trying. It literally took me way more than 20 times to find the right synergy team to be able to solo with a R4 and I wouldn’t have ever, EVER, R5 Colossus for the fight. So if I couldn’t do it with the R4 I just wouldn’t have done it period.
It would’ve made me sad that I couldn’t complete it but not as angry as some others are here.
But really, this time, is just a little gift for some who want and like the grind to solo a boss.
It’s definitely not worth any revives or rank up resources.
If this seems fun do it, if not, don’t. You won’t miss out on anything of importance.
LOL is easier than this because you can take 5* and 6* champs. Doing this is like doing LOL with 4* champs. Not worth the time and effort.
The way Kabam advertised this built up hype but destroyed it for most of the summoners out there.
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For 3 weeks, Kabam built up a crazy amount of hype for a tournament that was going to be all INCLUSIVE, a place where ALL summoners could test their skills. Welp, the day finally came for the PARTICIPATION lvl, Kabam's greeting? Staring at a white box for an hour, then making most of us mindlessly spend resources to try and defeat SS. Most summoners either went in and couldn't do it, or just didn't do it at all. The ones who did end up making it had an extreme challenge as well, and for what...3k 5* shards and some gold!
Kabam made a mistake, a large mistake, but that doesn't mean it can't improve in the future.
@Kabam Miike this is a great game, keep it that way pls.
My consolation is that i can get gold and 5shards in several ways in this game. Now if the rewards were T5cc and T5 basic I might be crying on the inside.