Introducing Alliance Quest Modifiers

Worknprogress

Neotwism said:

@Worknprogress Believe it or not, Miike has been wrong in the past.

You dont say? I also haven't noticed any difference personally

Mase1127

Question: is everyone else able to select different modifiers per BG? I tried to start ours today with a BG1 map 5 no modifier, bg2 map 6 with Hurt locker and a BG3 map 7 with no modifier.

When I applied the modifier to BG2 it assigned it to all 3 BGs. I then tried to remove the modifier from BG3 and it removed it from all 3. Is this working as intended?

SummonerNR

Current HONOR Points NOT VISIBLE on main AQ Screen. Needs to be added similar to where current Prestige and Event Score (AQ Points) are listed.

Make some more room below those by consolidating the 3 different sections of Rewards into a single Rewards button (would still be able to view any of the 3 types of Reward Milestone progress, same as it currently does once you go into that).

-OR- just add the actual current Points onto the Rewards Milestones progress (instead of just showing you “which” Milestone you are currently at).
** Oh, and same could be done for ALL EVENTS in game, like 3-day Completion, etc, once you hit top Milestone there is currently nowhere you can actually see what your Points are (for those who are looking to hit a certain (ie.) 20% Rank level above what mnormal top Milestone level is. If actual current Points are added to Milestone Display, then we’d be able to see it.

RagamugginGunner

Why didn't they make a video showing how to correctly select the modifiers? Apparently after selecting one it gives the |Continue" button to start the AQ before selecting the other 2.

SummonerNR

RagamugginGunner said:

Why didn't they make a video showing how to correctly select the modifiers? Apparently after selecting one it gives the |Continue" button to start the AQ before selecting the other 2.

On the screen where you select each MAP you want to play on for that BG, is where you would go into the Modifier Button and select which Modifier FOR THAT BG MAP. Do that BEFORE hitting NEXT to move on to the next BG.

The final CONTINUE is once all 3 BG's are set (Maps and Modifiers). If you haven’t set the Modifiers by that time, go back to the individual BG Selection screens before finalizing.

Buttehrs

Our alliance still cant even turn modifiers on! Still says coming soon even after the officers restart the game. Cmon kabam get it together!

awesomesauce

Buttehrs said:

Our alliance still cant even turn modifiers on! Still says coming soon even after the officers restart the game. Cmon kabam get it together!

I think this is a polite way of the officers telling you they don't want to do them.

SummonerNR

Recap of Known Issues...

Some alliances still saying “Coming Soon”, can’t select Modifiers ...
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/169252/umm-the-aq-modifiers-still-say-coming-soon#latest

(for those that can) BG3 not showing same Bonus and Honor Points on 2nd day as BG 1/2 ...
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/169488/aq-modifiers-not-paying-the-same-points#latest

Colinwhitworth69

MCOC Team said:

Greetings Summoner,

The challenges of our Alliance Quests continue to evolve and change! Starting November 15th a new feature will be coming to Alliance Quests!

Alliance Quest Modifiers

Alliance Quest Modifiers are optional Buffs that Alliance Leaders and Officers can add to Alliance Quest Maps to increase their difficulty, and earn bonus rewards for completing the Map.

Alliance Quest modifiers are meant to act as a stepping stone for mid-tier Alliances to graduate to higher difficulties, and give higher-tier Alliances new content to engage with.

How do they work?

When an Alliance Quest Event is running, Alliance Leaders and/or Officers will have the option to select a Global Buff that will affect all encounters on the Map. They can choose a Buff for each Battlegroup that is participating.

An Alliance will always have the option to not choose a Global Buff, however they will surrender any bonus Points they would have gained from participating in this feature.

There are three tiers of Buffs: Normal, Heroic, or Master. Normal Buffs are best suited for Maps 1-3, Heroic and Master for Maps 4-7.
Each tier contains 5 Buffs, enough for one Buff per day of an Alliance Quest series. You can look forward to more Buffs being added in the future.

These Alliance Quest Modifier Buffs increase the difficulty of the Alliance Quest Map, but Alliances are rewarded with ”Honor” and earn bonus Points when completing Maps with these Buffs selected.

Honor and Bonus Points?

Honor Points are Points that Alliances gain from completing Maps in Alliance Quest Events when they have chosen an Alliance Quest Modifier. Using a Modifier that you haven't used this week will earn your Alliance more points each Quest. Additionally, the higher difficulty Map you run, the more points the Modifiers will earn.

The greater variety of Modifiers you use throughout the series, the more Honor Points you will earn. To reach the highest Honor Milestones, you’ll need to use all 5 Alliance Quest Modifiers throughout the series on Map 7.

Bonus Points are additional Points an Alliance earns for choosing Alliance Quest Modifiers that go towards Rank Rewards.

The Buffs
Normal:

• +45% Armor: The Defender gains +45% Armor Rating from the start of the fight
  
• Sadist - 1: This Defender gains +10% Attack for each Debuff on them.
  
• Opportunist - 1: This Defender gains +10% Attack for each Buff on them.
  
• Physical Resistance 40%:The Defender gains +40% Physical Resistance Rating from the start of the fight
  
• Plagued Mind -1: Attacker's Power is drained every 30 seconds.
  

Heroic:

• Soft Guard - 1: Each Blocked attack reduces Block Proficiency by 2%, up to a maximum of 80% reduction.
  
• Feats of Power: When the Defender is above 1 Bar of Power, gain a Fury Buff. When the Defender is above 2 Bars of Power, gain a Precision Buff. When the Defender is at 3 Bars of Power, gain a Cruelty Buff.
  
• Role Reversal: The Class Relationships on this Node are reversed.
  
• Optimist: Gains Fury, Armor Up, and Health Steal as long as they remain below 25% HP.
  
• Pessimist: Gains Fury, Armor Up, and Health Steal as long as they remain above 75% HP.
  

Master:

• Brute Force: If the Attacker hasn't landed a hit in 6 seconds they begin to Degenerate, losing 100% of their total Health over 30 seconds. Landing a hit removes the Degeneration and resets the timer. The strength of this Degeneration is affected by Class Relationships. (150% over 30 seconds with Class Dis. and 50% over 30 seconds with Class Adv.).
  
• Dismay: Whenever the Attacker loses their highest achieved Combo in a fight, they gain a Degeneration Debuff that deals damage every second equal to 10 times the lost Combo.
  
• Hurt Locker: Using the same type of Special Attack twice in a row gives the Attacker a Delayed Blast charge for {2} seconds which may be removed by landing a Heavy Attack. If the Blast expires, the Attacker takes {1}% of their Health as direct damage.
  
• Bane: Whichever Champion lands the first hit will place a Curse on the opposing Champion which deals {1}% of their current Health as Direct Damage per second. Whenever a Champion with the Curse strikes the other Champion or if the Curse has been on the same Champion for {2} seconds, it passes to the other Champion.
  
• Special Delivery: The Attacker begins the fight with {0} Combo charges which are lost with each landed basic attack. Launching a special attack resets the charges & if all charges run out, the Attacker suffers Degen equal to {1}% of the Defender's attack rating over {2} seconds and then the charges are reset.
  

Honor Milestones
The Top Honor Milestone can only be earned by using all 5 Master Alliance Quest modifiers in a single series on 5x Map 7.


Alliance Quest Modifiers are a completely optional addition to Alliance Quests, and will be available on November 15th, as well as an update to the Glory Store and Rank Rewards, and an update to many Alliance Quest Mini-Bosses! More information on those are coming soon.

Question: Are the bonus points added after the last round ends and not realtime to the daily total? I saw a reference to the bonus impacting your rank rewards, so I am hoping that's why our daily score does not seem to reflect the bonuses we've achieved. Just checking. Thanks.

Bryan_85

This **** is beyond frustrating. You’re forcing alliances to complete 5 days of this stuff to stay on top of the leaderboards.

Simple fix, leave this option, within the alliance only as side mission, etc. don’t force us to do this for extra bonus points. These SHOULDNT affect the leaderboards at all.

Worknprogress

Bryan_85 said:

This **** is beyond frustrating. You’re forcing alliances to complete 5 days of this stuff to stay on top of the leaderboards.

Simple fix, leave this option, within the alliance only as side mission, etc. don’t force us to do this for extra bonus points. These SHOULDNT affect the leaderboards at all.

They're not THAT bad so far. Thanos with bane was annoying. That's really the only one I see being a real pain though. Any alliance near the actual top of the leader boards should be able to handle them pretty easily

Icejr

Whats going on ?
2nd day Also bug on points bonus 😠😠😠
Please Don't Advertise broken game to the world ...

RoninMan

So what’s going to be done for those who experienced the bugs this week and consequently won’t be able to rank as high? Are you going to do an AQ compensation too? It’s not our fault you failed to implement this correctly.

JF79

RagamugginGunner said:

Jaded said:

RagamugginGunner said:

These will make OR so much harder.

Omega red is gone by the 15th. Not that the new mini boss won’t also be a problem. But omega red won’t see these.

True. Wondering how hard of a champ they replace him with. Or need some pretty specific counters. I'm hoping the new boss has a better all around counter then DarkHawk.

Yes cause darkhawk is horrible in my opinion. I have his as a 5* hero and I never use him due to how he is. Coulda done a better job making him for sure

SummonerNR

Regarding an ally's current HONOR POINTS total not being visible anywhere during the AQ Series, what do people think of maybe the following...

*** IDEA... Turn the Honor Points into another type of Ally Event (on the EVENTS tab) like AQ Completion Event is. Would just be a Peak Milestone Event though. There you would be able to track your Honor Progress, and award you the Honor Milestone upon finish of AQ Series.

Archdemon_

Unless I've missed it, we've still not had confirmation that we will be getting compensation for this bug. Can we get some clarification on this? my alliance's potential score has been greatly impacted by this and we're not going to get anything from the honour rewards as we're still unable to select modifiers several days in!

DNA3000

SummonerNR said:

Regarding an ally's current HONOR POINTS total not being visible anywhere during the AQ Series, what do people think of maybe the following...

*** IDEA... Turn the Honor Points into another type of Ally Event (on the EVENTS tab) like AQ Completion Event is. Would just be a Peak Milestone Event though. There you would be able to track your Honor Progress, and award you the Honor Milestone upon finish of AQ Series.

I think there's two problems with this verses just adding the honor points to the AQ screens. The first one is that it forces players to look in two different places for this information, and that's kind of annoying when it happens (for example, the only way to see arena rank is in the stash, not in the arena itself, but conversely you can't see points scored or tier awarded in the stash either unless you have the rewards memorized). The second one is a timing issue: if everyone starts AQ at different times, that could make that alliance event a little more tricky to set up (it might require more code, with more potential for bugs to creep in, relative to adding a point tally in the interface).

Doc_oc

It seems like modifiers aren't working properly.. we playing map 5 on 2 bgs and map 6 on 3rd bg..
But it seems like honor points and honor bonuses are broken on map 6.. honor points are lower on map 6 as compared to map 5.
@Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Vydious @Kabam Lyra @Kabam Porthos

SummonerNR

Display-Bug only, telling you incorrect potential BG3 points. What is actually being given after AQ day ends seems to be the Correct Amount (and not the lower amount it was displaying beforehand).

And same Display-only Bug happens in BG 1/2 as well if you switch up doing different days on different buff Difficulty levels. Switching Difficulty tells you in advance that points will go back to column-1 (day-1) Points, but after AQ ended it actually gave points from correct Column (Day).

Worknprogress

SummonerNR said:

Does anyone know if these bonuses are cumulative or peak bonuses? Do you get 7.2M day 1 of map 7 for 3 bgs and 3 master buffs and then get 21.6M for the 5th day? Or do you just get 21.6M on top of the series score for all 5 days?

SummonerNR

Worknprogress said:

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Does anyone know if these bonuses are cumulative or peak bonuses? Do you get 7.2M day 1 of map 7 for 3 bgs and 3 master buffs and then get 21.6M for the 5th day? Or do you just get 21.6M on top of the series score for all 5 days?

The Bonus Points (above chart) are cumulative, for each day, times each BG. So YES for your example.

The Honor Points themselves (chart below) for each day and BG are also cumulative, although the final Milestone reward for Honor (last chart below) is indeed a Peak Milestone.

SummonerNR

Honor charts...

Worknprogress

SummonerNR said:

Worknprogress said:

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Does anyone know if these bonuses are cumulative or peak bonuses? Do you get 7.2M day 1 of map 7 for 3 bgs and 3 master buffs and then get 21.6M for the 5th day? Or do you just get 21.6M on top of the series score for all 5 days?

The Bonus Points (above chart) are cumulative, for each day, times each BG. So YES for your example.

The Honor Points themselves (chart below) for each day and BG are also cumulative, although the final Milestone reward for Honor (last chart below) is indeed a Peak Milestone.

That's what it was looking like based on our score at end of day 4. Was just curious if that was supposed to be the case. That's some pretty serious score inflation to raise a map 7 alliance by 70+ million points and then call then optional

JMAN337

@Worknprogress you are totally right. For the upper tier alliances the modifiers are in no way optional. Thankfully the nodes are not that bad. We ran them all week no issues.

DNA3000

Worknprogress said:

SummonerNR said:

Worknprogress said:

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Does anyone know if these bonuses are cumulative or peak bonuses? Do you get 7.2M day 1 of map 7 for 3 bgs and 3 master buffs and then get 21.6M for the 5th day? Or do you just get 21.6M on top of the series score for all 5 days?

The Bonus Points (above chart) are cumulative, for each day, times each BG. So YES for your example.

The Honor Points themselves (chart below) for each day and BG are also cumulative, although the final Milestone reward for Honor (last chart below) is indeed a Peak Milestone.

That's what it was looking like based on our score at end of day 4. Was just curious if that was supposed to be the case. That's some pretty serious score inflation to raise a map 7 alliance by 70+ million points and then call then optional

I think that's a matter of context. In the general context of the game, the modifier system is optional. For the vast overwhelming majority of players, the modifier system is optional. If you're in a competitive AQ alliance, the system isn't optional, but only in the sense that nothing is optional in a competition where the goal is to win (or place high, or whatever). Once you pick your goal, everything you need to do to accomplish it is, from your perspective, not optional.

But I don't think it is fair or noteworthy to knock a game developer for describing a game feature as optional when it isn't optional for competitive players, simply because nothing is optional for competitive players if their desire to compete is high enough.

Worknprogress

JMAN337 said:

@Worknprogress you are totally right. For the upper tier alliances the modifiers are in no way optional. Thankfully the nodes are not that bad. We ran them all week no issues.

Same here but I just dont see how they could call them optional for any alliance running map 7. You're not going to put out that resource expenditure and then leave 70m points on the table

SummonerNR

Just putting the Modifier Buff Lists up here as well, and maybe have all 5 screencaps on same thread page for people to reference ...

SummonerNR

@khehmist , it looks like you are able to still advance to the next “Unique Day” even if you change to a different Difficulty Group of buff. (display on screen of potential Bonus/Honor Points will not reflect that currently, but looks like the actual progression of unique points is what was awarded when I tried that)

One might argue that doing a Heroic for first 4 days, and then jumping to a Master for just the last day should not necessarily award you that 5th Day Master worth of Points. But it also wouldn’t seem right if they were to drop you down to the 1st day Unique Master Points Level on that day-5 after 4 days of Completion.

But it’s not really gonna affect high alliances one way or another, as they most likely are going to run all Master Level each day anyways.

Mid-Tier ally's may decide to run something like 4 days of Heroic buffs (maybe leaving out Soft Guard ?) and running 1 day of Hurt Locker from Master (seems like the easiest Master Level buff).

DNA3000

SummonerNR said:

@khehmist , it looks like you are able to still advance to the next “Unique Day” even if you change to a different Difficulty Group of buff. (display on screen of potential Bonus/Honor Points will not reflect that currently, but looks like the actual progression of unique points is what was awarded when I tried that)

One might argue that doing a Heroic for first 4 days, and then jumping to a Master for just the last day should not necessarily award you that 5th Day Master worth of Points. But it also wouldn’t seem right if they were to drop you down to the 1st day Unique Master Points Level on that day-5 after 4 days of Completion.

Actually, that's exactly what I expected the system to do. Allowing players to gain day 5 magnified points for a higher tier by first running a lower tier doesn't make sense to me. In other words, the system would be saying that running the same Master modifier five days in a row would award less points than running four Normal modifiers followed by a Master modifier. That's completely nonsensical.

Because there seems to be visual and other bugs this week, I'm not entirely sure what the game is actually doing and what it is supposed to be doing. But based on how the points are described in the announcements, the only logical thing that should happen is that the number of bonus points you get should be based on how many unique modifiers of the same tier you are running. If today you are running a master tier modifier, you should get master tier points. How many should be based on how many unique master modifiers you've run to this point, including the current one.

If it is actually advancing rightward on every different modifier, even if they are in different tiers, that's horribly broken. Because in that kind of system, if you can run some but not all of the master tier modifiers, the system basically *forces* you to add lower tier modifiers rather than repeat a master tier modifier, or lose points. That is just plain crazy.

SummonerNR

I was thinking that maybe the fairest for when switching Difficulty groups would be to keep you in the same “Unique Column” as previous day. Sort of a middle ground between being able to advance to next column vs having to drop back down and restart column for a different difficulty.
But thought that would be to convoluted to suggest.

Keep in mind that lower ally's would still have to have WIN in those previous days, and by day-5 their Prestige would have jumped up quite high. So if they want to then run a Master Buff on day-5 they are sort of running above their heads a little.
And they’re not really competing against high end ally's anyways.