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Alliance Tickets [Merged Threads]

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  • ChampioncriticChampioncritic Member Posts: 3,347 ★★★★

    I get where you're coming from, but when you donate to the Treasury, those resources become solely to open Alliance Quest Maps, and that's what Alliance Tickets.

    It would be the same thing that happened if Map 5 became free without the new ticket system.

    Good point, but it still sucks though. I feel it would be a much fairer solution to split the alliance treasury amounts between the alliance mates and return them the resources. Yes definitely some will benefit more than others, but its better than getting AQ tickets that Map 5 alliances will never use.
  • GreywardenGreywarden Member Posts: 843 ★★★★
    Why do you even charge entry to aq to begin with....
    Barrier to entry should be skill and roster development. Let everyone in the game try the hardest map. What difference does it make to anybody if it all comes down to prestige anyway.
    Really making the game worse at your most pivotal time in years.
  • Stagedear85Stagedear85 Member Posts: 774 ★★★
    I think this is a step in the right direction, there's no fix that's going to please everyone someone will be unhappy if they give everyone 5 tier 5 crystal someone going to ask why or why not 6. lets wait and see how the new process goes and be happy they're listening and trying to make things better.
  • Vicious_DeliciousVicious_Delicious Member Posts: 33
    Wahyau said:

    Absolute shady move. We had months of Donations in, people were donating for each other because life. Not everyone can play all the time and that's where the understanding was. We are a bunch of guys playing together from years. And not everyone was doing the same maps, so we split the costs. We allowed some free donations to the guys who helped out the ally like set defense, plan war or aq, like a reward for them. And overnight, you guys just destroy years of hard earned donations and say take back only 5 months?

    Another move totally out of tune with what is happening at the ground level. No heads up to atleast burn back the excess donations. Many are gonna just quit coz not all are gonna farm resources by grinding. Choice should be on the team to let some players donations be taken care of, I can grind and pay the donations for my friend if I want to! Also years of having a system and you throw it away overnight???
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Member Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★

    Why do you even charge entry to aq to begin with....
    Barrier to entry should be skill and roster development. Let everyone in the game try the hardest map. What difference does it make to anybody if it all comes down to prestige anyway.
    Really making the game worse at your most pivotal time in years.

    Free AQ periods allow players to try the hardest map.

    IMO.No entry costs allow players to continually run maps they are not capable of completing which has many negative effects a game designer wouldn’t want to encourage.
  • KrukkKrukk Member Posts: 12
    Another map 5 alliance who loses everything for something we will never do. The RIGHT thing to do is split it back up to the people who earned it and put it in. This is just like a government policy you pay in we keep it all...
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Member Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    Maybe there can be a way for players in an alliance to open a spot on a higher map but not take that spot. This allows lower map participants to share the cost burden. With that said the cost of AQ seems to have been made significantly cheaper so higher map players might not see much of an increase in the cost, but it is an increase in relative cost.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,520 ★★★★★
    TwmR said:

    Knorr7227 said:

    Map 5 players should get a refund of donations, not tickets

    They are refunding your donations in tickets if you only do map 5 you have no need for tickets....
    They would never refund Donations. Any idea how intricate that would be or long it would take? Splitting it up is equally as unfair. Some donated more, some less, some not at all. When you give a Donation, you don't get it back. That much has been true for the duration of the game.
  • FreeToPlay_21FreeToPlay_21 Member Posts: 1,594 ★★★★
    It's so unnecessary in my opinion. The donation system is the least of the worries when it comes to AQ for a good chunk of the community. Kabam could've addressed so many other issues regarding AQ.

    They could've tackled the energy timer issues or the general repetitiveness of AQ, or literally anything else, but no. They have to break the only thing that works fine. Almost nobody cares about the donations.
  • Planc2007Planc2007 Member Posts: 48
    Also does individual people need tickets to join map 6? Or do the tickets all go into a pot for the alliance?

    So if map 5 is ran do the people who do the map 5 BG need tickets?
  • ChampioncriticChampioncritic Member Posts: 3,347 ★★★★

    It's so unnecessary in my opinion. The donation system is the least of the worries when it comes to AQ for a good chunk of the community. Kabam could've addressed so many other issues regarding AQ.

    They could've tackled the energy timer issues or the general repetitiveness of AQ, or literally anything else, but no. They have to break the only thing that works fine. Almost nobody cares about the donations.

    Well, they are gonna change the map 5 AI to be more aggressive which means they hopefully will be more willing to launch specials, thats something good i guess.
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Member Posts: 8,852 ★★★★★
    Planc2007 said:

    Also does individual people need tickets to join map 6? Or do the tickets all go into a pot for the alliance?

    So if map 5 is ran do the people who do the map 5 BG need tickets?

    I believe each player has their own stash of tickets. Map five is free
  • BrokenBroken Member Posts: 224
    @Kabam Miike can you clear how many tickets can be used to open 1 time map6
  • slackerslacker Member Posts: 775 ★★★★
    How about making AQ ticket sellable with the same cost ? That way if player get refund by ticket and only map 5 , they could sold those ticket and get their gold back
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Member Posts: 8,852 ★★★★★
    This is just setting us up for bases... Well played kabam
  • Kabam MiikeKabam Miike Moderator Posts: 8,269

    How/when does the ticket store (don’t know what to call it) reset?

    Is 450 units worth of tickets for 1 week of map 7 accurate?

    How can the alliance ensure players have tickets on hand to pay for the week? There is potential for players bad at accounting to leave the other players high and dry for the week.

    The price of tickets will reset on the same schedule as the Glory Store!

    450 Tickets is the price of 150 Tickets, which is 5 days of Alliance Quests.

    It's not really possible to know what each of your members has on hand, but that's why we wanted to make costs more flexible. If you don't have a lot of Loyalty to use, you can use Gold or Battle Chips, etc.
  • ChampioncriticChampioncritic Member Posts: 3,347 ★★★★
    Grimm said:

    I get where you're coming from, but when you donate to the Treasury, those resources become solely to open Alliance Quest Maps, and that's what Alliance Tickets.

    It would be the same thing that happened if Map 5 became free without the new ticket system.

    Come on dude.... you have been here long enough that you cant possibly believe this. But for the sake of argument lets debunk that:

    - Alliance treasury existed to fund maps 5-7... which means map 5 was included.... so if an alliance only did 5x5, it would have significant resources on the treasury.... yet, instead of refunding the resources you give them tickets for map 6 and 7 which they cant use... if map 5 became free, the treasury could still be used to fund individual BGs in map 6 or 7, but now part of these tickets are given back to people that wont use them while forcing others to pay for the whole alliance

    - The whole point of the new AQ system was to allow different maps for different BGs but now, in this poorly designed system, only the map 6 and 7 players pay full cost while everyone gets the same rewards.... obviously nonsensical

    It is not possible that moderators/developers know so little about the game that they dont understand that... one has to ask, why do this???? it could have been easily solved by transforming the alliance treasury into a ticket holder where players donate with the same flexibility you suggested but still sharing the costs and the benefits.

    This move will create friction between alliance mates... will reduce the ability of higher players to coexist with lower players in the same alliance...

    so we beta test changes to heroes but these decisions are made without any consultation....

    If I were you, I would strongly suggest to put a stop to this immediately and go back to the drawing board....
    I'll rephrase this request, keep the intended change of making map 5 free, but don't implement the ticket system yet. And in the event that the ticket system will go on as planned, strongly consider distributing the alliance treasury resources between all the members of the alliance instead of issuing tickets.
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,329 ★★★★★
    Awesome change.

    At least players get to choose what resource they want to spend when purchasing tickets.
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