Brian Grant just insinuated he may quit the game over the gifting event.....

Jeremy3186Jeremy3186 Member Posts: 308 ★★★
Watch the video below and I'm curious of people's thoughts...

he's basically saying they went too far this time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKHWYCqX8kA
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  • Skiddy212Skiddy212 Member Posts: 1,101 ★★★★

    Skiddy212 said:

    Can someone explain to me what changed with gifting this year please? i do not understand and would like too

    watch the video.. they basically made all objectives to achieve in this game pay to win for the next 2 weeks.... including things you can't get from just playing.
    Thank you, i will watch
  • Lovejoy72Lovejoy72 Member Posts: 1,858 ★★★★

    We'll see what happens in the next couple of weeks when the event is over because for as many people that are angry with how the rewards are scaled, I'm wondering how many of those people will feel the same way if after this event they've acquired the materials that they couldn't have gotten their hands on in the first place. I'm not trying to be dismissive of Brian's arguments but I am noting that people's opinions usually change when they're lucky enough to hit the jackpot. Like I said, we need to wait and see how this plays out

    It’ll be interesting. I just opened more than 50 greater gifting crystals and got maybe fourth or fifth of a T3a and a T6b. Really not very impactful. Admittedly I got almost everything else I could possibly want, including the dupe on 6* NF (so I can use my generic gem on someone else). But if it was somebody trying to keep up with the meta it would’ve been a waste of their time
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,484 ★★★★★

    Are we still pretending that people who play for free should have everything that people who spend have?

    People by the end of this event will have 4+ r4 6-stars. Me, thronebreaker and everything 100% except abyss will not even have a single one. I'm not asking for 4 but by the time people are getting fully prestiged out with r4s I should get to have at least one.
    Spending has always been an option in the game. They will always have more than the people who play for free because money saves time. There is NO way to keep up with people who spend. However, spending is not necessary to play. Which is great, considering the fact that spending makes the game possible for those that don't.
    Moreover, Resource will open up more and more as people advance higher up. It's been that way since the game started.
    You are completely ignoring the point. The gap here is massive and I have zero way of earning these things apart from dropping massive amounts of cash. How am I ever supposed to get to high tier aw if the resources I need to get there are only offered through cash? Then by the time they get to me the next resource I need to continue to catchup is only offered through cash? And not a miniscule reasonable amount of it. An unreasonable amount is offered making it nearly impossible to catchup. "Money saves time" if that was all it did that wouldnt be a problem but the money is buying time that isnt even available yet.
    *for now. As I said, they will become more available down the line. Spenders will always have first dibs. Welcome to the game.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,484 ★★★★★

    Are we still pretending that people who play for free should have everything that people who spend have?

    People by the end of this event will have 4+ r4 6-stars. Me, thronebreaker and everything 100% except abyss will not even have a single one. I'm not asking for 4 but by the time people are getting fully prestiged out with r4s I should get to have at least one.
    Spending has always been an option in the game. They will always have more than the people who play for free because money saves time. There is NO way to keep up with people who spend. However, spending is not necessary to play. Which is great, considering the fact that spending makes the game possible for those that don't.
    Moreover, Resource will open up more and more as people advance higher up. It's been that way since the game started.
    You are completely ignoring the point. The gap here is massive and I have zero way of earning these things apart from dropping massive amounts of cash. How am I ever supposed to get to high tier aw if the resources I need to get there are only offered through cash? Then by the time they get to me the next resource I need to continue to catchup is only offered through cash? And not a miniscule reasonable amount of it. An unreasonable amount is offered making it nearly impossible to catchup. "Money saves time" if that was all it did that wouldnt be a problem but the money is buying time that isnt even available yet.
    *for now. As I said, they will become more available down the line. Spenders will always have first dibs. Welcome to the game.
    how far "down the line" is fair to you? I'm curious... 6 months? a year? How much of a head start should people paying get from those who do not to be fair to both ends of the spectrum?
    Considering how new R4s are, some time. When R3s were introduced, people weren't Ranking them in mass numbers at first. The same goes with any new Rank.
    People who pay will always have an advantage. I'm aware that BG prides himself in trying to compete with spenders, but the game isn't really designed with that in mind. There is no "us vs. them". It allows people to play both for free, and for pay.
  • Fit_Fun9329Fit_Fun9329 Member Posts: 2,084 ★★★★★
    This all feels just .. to much. It’s over the top
  • NickMerksNickMerks Member Posts: 64
    Then you could at least make plans to join/leave an alliance. How are you supposed to position yourself for a mystery event? Just leave ur long time alliance just incase.
  • GameChanger12GameChanger12 Member Posts: 43
    The problem with the gifting is there is a substantial drop off from ranks to even the the top 10%. Many in the top 10% will be spending big but will literally get a fraction of what the no limit spenders go for. If I dropped a boatload and got the short end of the stick I'd be livid. The drop off in reward tiers shouldn't have gone from 100 at top dawg to say 85 at the last rank to like 50 at top 10%. I think it would have been wise for kabam to recap revenue losses by making this event nutty. Where they messed up is the tier brackets. Heck I think even at the top 50% a tiny sampling of t3a and t6b would have made financial sense to act as a constant reminder of what you should strive for and in their eyes try to buy more. That's the whole point of retailers giving samples. When it takes what 3 of each for a r4 what's 100 shards at 50% standing? But people who just missed the ranks get zip. That's dumber than the trade in store where kabam didn't even put out a financial offer to get more AG. Whoever at Kabam is making these strategic decisions is making a laughable string of poor decisions.

    As a f2p player I didn't expect I'd get much of anything and won't be near the top 10%. I have a little over 5k units saved up might be able to get it close to 6k by end of event to spend but that's not much so I'm not talking about what I'm missing out on. If the tiers dropped more gradually for rewards it's doubtful lots of moderate spenders on YouTube would be putting out videos like this because they wouldn't entirely miss the boat.
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★

    I’m pretty salty about the fact that there’s an Abyss nexus in the rewards. That crystal is meant to be a reward for completing the most grueling content in the game (not most difficult, so don’t get on me about that) but now they’re just letting people buy it.
    Same with six star Weapon X. Don’t get me wrong, I was wanting him to be in the GGCs because I love him and want more people to have access to him but having be able to be outright bought rubs me the wrong way.
    Don’t even get me started on the fact that there’s a generic r4 gem before there was ever a class based crystal one.

    The rank up rewards are better than summoner showdown
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 10,694 ★★★★★

    I’m pretty salty about the fact that there’s an Abyss nexus in the rewards. That crystal is meant to be a reward for completing the most grueling content in the game (not most difficult, so don’t get on me about that) but now they’re just letting people buy it.
    Same with six star Weapon X. Don’t get me wrong, I was wanting him to be in the GGCs because I love him and want more people to have access to him but having be able to be outright bought rubs me the wrong way.
    Don’t even get me started on the fact that there’s a generic r4 gem before there was ever a class based crystal one.

    I’m agerd I’m don’t even hav one r4 one do’s not play much so it makes sens but com one can’t even get one r4 before people hav 3 that’s wrong
  • Lovejoy72Lovejoy72 Member Posts: 1,858 ★★★★

    tafre said:

    tafre said:

    I doubt any f2p player has a r4 champ and some people will have 3 of them by the time this event ends. .

    3 of them is achievable in just a few hours, if not less.
    I wouldn't doubt some people would have 20 or more of them at the end of the event
    20 is a bit too much lol but I get your point. They are selling rewards that cannot be consistenly obtained from any part of the game. That is the point. And they can get as much as their bank acct allows.
    Judging by what we've been seeing in the last couple of years, the average top spender would have more than enough for at least 5000 of these crystals.
    Now how much r4's can be achievable there? I have no idea, but probably a good couple of them
    Tell you what, if they pulled approximately the same rate of T4 materials that I did out of 50 crystals, instead did it with 5000 crystals they would be able to make five R4s with a bunch of T3a leftover.
  • DualityCopeDualityCope Member Posts: 435 ★★★
    edited December 2021
    Why is there an abyss nexus in the rewards? That's insulting and takes away one of the main things abyss had.

    Also weapon X? I know he was just an extra for legend runs but still, putting him in the crystal and rank rewards is a bit scummy and devalues having him a significant amount.

    The rest I don't care about honestly. The higher rewards they give out in the milestones/crystals, the more they are forced to give f2p players in the future to keep the "economy" in balance. I expect a large power creep in rewards just like what happened earlier this year.

    I am worried though as to how quick we will be getting r5 6*. I hope they hold off on those for at least another year.
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