Brian Grant just insinuated he may quit the game over the gifting event.....

D0ctor_S

Lovejoy72 said:

Jcobra25 said:

Lovejoy72 said:

Jcobra25 said:

Lovejoy72 said:

Jcobra25 said:

TitoBandito187 said:

-He's a non spender who makes that choice and sticks with it. He gets to play for free because he likes the game (or at least likes it while it has allowed him to be at the top), gets to earn money from YouTube as a side business while playing the game, but has an expectation that he deserves to be at the top with the folks dropping fat cash.
It's absolutely bonkers.

Agreed!!!
At the end of the day he is a YouTuber. Has nobody wondered how many clicks he's gotten on that video in the last 24 hours?
The f2p guy is monetizing on all of this people's concerns about kabam monetizing lol

Both videos he made addressing his controversy have fewer views than his last 6* opening and less than his greater gifting Crystal opening. And they weren’t 47 minutes long. Implying that he’s doing this to profit his channel is an easy way to side step his concerns, but it’s not a legitimate way to address them.

So he isn't making any money out of those +50k views is what you are saying? Lol

I must ask, Brian is that you? Hahahaha

Not the slightest idea what are YouTube earns off of 50,000 views.

And that right there is the quote of the day sir.
You are trying to minimize whatever monetary gainings he made on that video alone. When at the same time you said it yourself. You have no idea about how the whole thing works.

One very simple thing to know is that 50k vies in less than. 24 hours is no small feat. But I digress.
Point being, that's what this dude does for a living and you just out there worries about his hurt feelings lol

Pure nonsense. He can demonetize that video himself, and it would not make his point anymore valid. The fact that video might in someway be monetized might speak to his motive in someway, but at the end of the day does not in anyway change the absolute veracity, or lack thereof, of his claims. That is just how logic and argumentation works. You can cast doubt and aspersions all day long, If that makes you feel like you’ve made a point, but the argument itself still needs to be addressed if you want to make an actual point.

Not to jump on the money side of things - if the video is financially successful more power to him. But there is a lot of inconsistencies in his position and a lack of awareness that whilst this may impact him in his unique position it is not going to impact 99% of the player base.

BG has more r3s than 90% of the player base and is competing at the top end of alliance content so he is going to feel the changes more acutely. Making a video about how it's equally bad for everyone isn't exactly reflective and just leads to a spate of posts from the base of the game stating "it's so unfair" despite it not impacting them.

It's similarly shortsighted as the 210k units video. Yes, a person could have hypothetically ran 8 phones 18 hours a day in a quasi bot farm for 6 weeks but its unlikely. If the video was against bot farms, I'd have been cool with it but it wasn't and the end result was hyping up a problem that didn't really exist with Kabam listening and putting in measures that impact genuine smaller accounts as well as those looking to exploit.

You can't also be "I don't find this content challenging anymore" in relation to variants one minute and "the advantage is unfair" the next. I know it's more nuanced than that and solo content Vs alliance content differences, but the only real advantage is prestige and some hypothetical about a game mode that doesn't yet exist.

BG was already behind on prestige (compared to the top .1% - he's still ahead of most) and if they had not included R4 mats in gifting he would still be behind on prestige. The only difference would be that whales wouldn't spend to get stuff they don't need.

On the challenge side of things, BG makes a big point of saying he doesn't enjoy stuff when overpowered (Diablo). So what is he asking for? R4 availability to make the current content easier but to keep up with prestige? Everyone to stand still to keep some semblance of parity with his account? There's not a solution that solves his very unique situation.

The only real solution is more content, and had 7.4 come out this month with R4 mats there would be far less complaining. But given that schedules may have been impacted by the pandemic things are slightly out of step compared to previous years (which is slightly less dramatic than the game becoming more like a funko pop simulator)

Lovejoy72

FluffyPigMonster said:

If gifting was stinky and didn’t have big rewards, would we be having this discussion?

We would still be having a discussion. About how stinky the event is. That’s how everything is balanced!

GroundedWisdom

SatsuiNoHadou said:

GroundedWisdom said:

FreddyKane said:

GroundedWisdom said:

FreddyKane said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Are we still pretending that people who play for free should have everything that people who spend have?

People by the end of this event will have 4+ r4 6-stars. Me, thronebreaker and everything 100% except abyss will not even have a single one. I'm not asking for 4 but by the time people are getting fully prestiged out with r4s I should get to have at least one.

Spending has always been an option in the game. They will always have more than the people who play for free because money saves time. There is NO way to keep up with people who spend. However, spending is not necessary to play. Which is great, considering the fact that spending makes the game possible for those that don't.
Moreover, Resource will open up more and more as people advance higher up. It's been that way since the game started.

You are completely ignoring the point. The gap here is massive and I have zero way of earning these things apart from dropping massive amounts of cash. How am I ever supposed to get to high tier aw if the resources I need to get there are only offered through cash? Then by the time they get to me the next resource I need to continue to catchup is only offered through cash? And not a miniscule reasonable amount of it. An unreasonable amount is offered making it nearly impossible to catchup. "Money saves time" if that was all it did that wouldnt be a problem but the money is buying time that isnt even available yet.

*for now. As I said, they will become more available down the line. Spenders will always have first dibs. Welcome to the game.

This has gotten way out of hand, I’m with everyone when I say that this year’s gifting has especially skewed progression towards whales. It’s a slap to the face for us active and skilled players when a year’s or even 2 year’s worth of hard earned progression from playing the game organically can simply be overtaken in a day when one spends tens of thousands of dollars without even having to complete any endgame content. Sure the p2w model has always been in existence for gatcha games such as these, but this is taking things way too far!! You seem to lack the wisdom to comment on such issues, but I’m not surprised, this has been the case from you for a long time as well.

People with that kind of money and willingness to spend it in the game have already completed said End-Game content. No new Players are dropping 30k on the game.

GrandOldKai

GroundedWisdom said:

SatsuiNoHadou said:

GroundedWisdom said:

FreddyKane said:

GroundedWisdom said:

FreddyKane said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Are we still pretending that people who play for free should have everything that people who spend have?

People by the end of this event will have 4+ r4 6-stars. Me, thronebreaker and everything 100% except abyss will not even have a single one. I'm not asking for 4 but by the time people are getting fully prestiged out with r4s I should get to have at least one.

Spending has always been an option in the game. They will always have more than the people who play for free because money saves time. There is NO way to keep up with people who spend. However, spending is not necessary to play. Which is great, considering the fact that spending makes the game possible for those that don't.
Moreover, Resource will open up more and more as people advance higher up. It's been that way since the game started.

You are completely ignoring the point. The gap here is massive and I have zero way of earning these things apart from dropping massive amounts of cash. How am I ever supposed to get to high tier aw if the resources I need to get there are only offered through cash? Then by the time they get to me the next resource I need to continue to catchup is only offered through cash? And not a miniscule reasonable amount of it. An unreasonable amount is offered making it nearly impossible to catchup. "Money saves time" if that was all it did that wouldnt be a problem but the money is buying time that isnt even available yet.

*for now. As I said, they will become more available down the line. Spenders will always have first dibs. Welcome to the game.

This has gotten way out of hand, I’m with everyone when I say that this year’s gifting has especially skewed progression towards whales. It’s a slap to the face for us active and skilled players when a year’s or even 2 year’s worth of hard earned progression from playing the game organically can simply be overtaken in a day when one spends tens of thousands of dollars without even having to complete any endgame content. Sure the p2w model has always been in existence for gatcha games such as these, but this is taking things way too far!! You seem to lack the wisdom to comment on such issues, but I’m not surprised, this has been the case from you for a long time as well.

People with that kind of money and willingness to spend it in the game have already completed said End-Game content. No new Players are dropping 30k on the game.

Eh, it could happen, but it's highly unlikely.

Though seeing a level 40 account in one of the top spots would be a little... weird.

Kabam Zibiit

Hey there, we appreciate those who have given constructive feedback here and can pass it along to the team for next year. That said, the thread has gone more than a bit off the rails at this point and has, at points, gotten more personal than it needs to be, so we will be closing this thread down at this time.