Introducing the next Campaign Progression Level: Paragon!

Chanfs

Title progression was never tied to in game offer before. Thronebreaker was achievable back then with an abyss run. In addition, the announcement is after the 7.4 released. I would purchase the offer if I knew the requirements as I wouldn’t as upset I am now.

Personally, I completed all the content except 1 carina one and 4 carina 2 challenges. I don’t even have enough t3a now for second r4 until I finished carina 1.

The 3 rR4 requirement is ridiculous

Eb0ny-O-M4w

thepiggy said:

Everyone critical of the requirements should be willing to post their roster, AW/AQ rankings, and all endgame content progress (Story, Abyss, Carinas).

As many have posted already, even if you have everything in the game completed and bought the offers, checking all requirements listed in the initial post, it is still not enough to get a 3rd rank 4 champion.

They even went ahead and included offers in the calculations, even after advertising it as not necessary. Unless you're spending on the gifting event and are being carried by P2W alliances, its still unreachable for a F2P player at this point, which was their premise to release the title to begin with.

It feels rushed. Like it wasn't meant to come out yet, but they had to lie about it and make up some way to "get more resources", even if not f2p friendly, just as an excuse to release the title now before the deals.

GoDlyZor

CloudOfContempt said:

That said, adding in one of each catalyst from all of those offers is 45,000 T3A and 57,000 T6B, with both of those AND the Act 7 deal, you would still be short 9,000 T3A. That certainly closes the gap and I imagine that 9k can be acquired from AQ/AW.

You also missed that for july 4th it wasn't just the 10k deal but the 4k deal to unlock the 10k offered 14,250 t6b. I thought cyber weekend was the same deal but now can't find what I saw.

BigBlueOx

I’m ok with this being something to strive for. But agree with everyone disappointed that even if they wanted to hustle for this title in advance they can’t. And fully agree about the timing of the announcement. Minimally I think it would be appreciated if Kabam refreshed that offer this weekend

AMS94

What a way to ensure butt loads of spending for spring cleaning

J0eySn0w

The way things are going and from what I've been hearing, lots of people will be Para-gone even before Paragon goes live

GOTG

brownlikebambi said:

not that it really matters a ton, but i have no idea why people are so desperate to claim themselves as ftp if they spend on deals and monthly stuff like sigil. it’s not that deep, you just aren’t ftp lmao

Dont understand this mentality either, I was a moderate spender myself and those time was great.

The requirements for Paragon title seems reasonable I agree, maybe a bit low. I think players should explore all Story Quest to get it.

ChriissR

Honestly this isn't surprising from a scummy company. Let's be real, they did this right before spring cleaning to milk players. Too many players are blinded by FOMO (Fear of Missing Out) and will blow cash just to get the title. Strategic business plan to milk the community. Definition of a scumbag company.

Demonzfyre

ChriissR said:

Honestly this isn't surprising from a scummy company. Let's be real, they did this right before spring cleaning to milk players. Too many players are blinded by FOMO (Fear of Missing Out) and will blow cash just to get the title. Strategic business plan to milk the community. Definition of a scumbag company.

Yes, because heaven forbid they make money to keep developing the game. Super scummy.

BuggyDClown

BitterSteel said:

BuggyDClown said:

Demonzfyre said:

BuggyDClown said:

Demonzfyre said:

BuggyDClown said:

Wow Great timing to demotivate players like us. Yes I am not in High tier Aw ( P3 currently) and Aq( top 100). Have done all the challenges except Carina which I am working my way on. So F2Ps or players who don't spend money straight up screwed. There's difference between making said resources available slowly than having thake resources available only locked behind skill wall.
TB came when people could achieve it without spending money. Because content had enough to give you one.

But 3 r4s is total bs. Because If this new event is like Summer of pain then only very few people will get benefit from that title and it's exclusive objectives. Now remember how much gap there was between CAV rewards and TB rewards due to the point and objective system. But I coud understand that as game still offered to get you TB title with your skills and content availability.
But this new one does not give at all.it straight up BS to say have 3 r4s but when realistically players like me have at most 2 r4s at hand.
Exclude the deals and look at the all events and content till now. There's no way F2ps and very low spenders have chance to have 3 r4s anytime soon.

I know now some people jump at me saying that SPENDERS DESERVE SUCH ADVANTAGE BLA BLA BLA BLA. In reality it's rich getting richer with really no scope for other players to catch up. let me clear one thing, don't say that people will get r4 materials eventually etc etc. It's still rarest resources ( not including gifting event and 10k unit deals)in game and it will not be available in big chunks. And if this new event as I said structured like SOP, it will be a straight slap to players like me as like SOP, we may get some chunk of r4 material ; after the event ends. I am still hopeful how that event turns out. But as usual it's kind of predictable how it will come out .
Constant bugs, lags, Aw controversy and now this.

I don't understand how this is demotivating at all. It would be if it's something you could NEVER achieve but that's not the case here. You might not be Paragon day 1 but just like all other progression titles, you'll get there once you catch up.

You said it yourself, you don't high tier AQ and AW. That's not on Kabam and they can't just make a title to fit your individual needs or your personal requirements.

You missed the point by mile like always. Why isn't demotivating??? Progression titles has been gated behind story content. TB was gated behind champ rank up wall. Understandable.
But why new titel is being factorized behind PvP??? I never said to give war title to gold rank ally. I never said to factorize the war title in single mode content.
It's the direction of game I am unhappy with. I am not sad that I will not get the title on day one. I am sad because it's doesn't give fair and equal shot when it's kind of gated behind competitive mode. Don't get me wrong here. I meant to say that they wanna raise the difficulty but they only have taken spending and competitive mode in evaluation when PROGRESSION TITLE should ans always been gated to solo mode regardless of AW/Aq. They used to add some bits to it but wasn't a factor behind it.
So a player who have done all the content necessary to get r4 materials, had to be in like top alliances like top 20. So you mean this new title should only be exclusive to only 600 players meanwhile disregarding the SKILL factor????? Monetizing the Solo mode with includance of competitive mode with regards of spending too. Does it look like PROGRESSION TITLE OR TITLE made for very ELITE SPENDERS.

I can only guess that you may be in high tier war like p1 or masters alliance. And we already have issue of war cost at the hand. which ironically dealing with same issue. So can you tell me how much of SKILL factor is taken in acount rather than SPENDING when we talk about while community instead of certain group of spenders.
Why the hell AW/Aq are benchmark for justification of Story mode title???? It doesn't make any sense except the spending. Would you will be happy if War titles are distributed if suddenly solo mode is taken into consideration. Will you justify it lol

I am not currently in P1 or masters and I only have 1 R4 right now and I am a huge spender by most definitions. You're wanting to fit where you are in the game to the title presented. Just like Thronebreaker was available to those that did abyss and act 6 100% and had a R3, they did things others weren't wanting to do or willing to do. But these days, we are seeing TBs at level 56 because the mats are so much easier to come by.

There isn't anything different in this title vs TB. The day 1 release isn't meant for a wide majority but for those that are at the top because there is way less for them in the game to strive for. All they have is top tier AQ and AW to do. Also, AW and AQ aren't the benchmark for this title, it's just part of it because there is constant R4 mats in rewards.

There are F2P out there with 3 R4's, may not be as many as spenders but it's still possible. At some point we'll all be paragon and the same groups will be complaining about the requirements for the next title to be released.

You yourself said that TB was achieveable when it came. Even I did abyss for TB rank up. But you either missed or didn't wanted to point out one crucial thing. Let me remind you then. Alliances played 0 role, spending played 0 role. It was the content which had ability to present the title. AOL completion guarantees r3 rank up. Exploring act 6 gives 2nd r3. And if rng is in favour one can actually r3 their 3rd 6 star. Aq/Aw didn't mattered in it at all, as it was solo content title. That was the situation during TB introduction.

Your entire emoji-strewn post is built on shaky foundation.

In the past, progression titles were 100% built around story content - that’s why having done the story content in the past let you get there on day one. Now, progression titles are not built around story content so they have to use other aspects in the game to judge who gets it day 1. They’ve chosen previous hard content, and in this case, high tier AW and AQ.

You cannot therefore say that having done abyss or act 6 guaranteed you TB, so having done content today should guarantee you Paragon - because you’re comparing apples to oranges. Times change, parameters change. Being in a high ranking alliance could help you get T5cc before, it helps you get rank 4 materials now.

Nah you still wrong. There is difference between alliance mode and solo content. How does it make sense to tie it with Alliance mode when the whole benefit is for individual.
You are saying that having done abyss or act 6 exploration 6 guarantees the TB ?!!!
Changing the parameter to spending and justification is on the grounds in being very at top competitive mode doesn't add anything. If War title is only given to top alliances, I never saw someone saying that progression of solo content should be reflective to that.
Same way how you expect that a solo content progress is not only being tied to spending (spending should have advantage not a monopoly on day 1) but it's being reflected by and individual existence in A HIGH TIER ALLIANCE. How thats even fair??How does that even make sense? Raising difficult within content is normal. Making people pay individually is normal. Making people have advantage through sounding is normal. Making non- spenders to work hard is normal to get to the top level in solo content. But you are saying that alliances should play role in it now ???? And virtually creating a situation where non spender have 0% chance to achieve it by doing the content???? And then reflecting the progress of an individual being factorise by being in some high tier ally ( idk if they meant gifting or Aw and Aq). How does that even make sense

GroundedWisdom

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

thepiggy said:

Everyone critical of the requirements should be willing to post their roster, AW/AQ rankings, and all endgame content progress (Story, Abyss, Carinas).

As many have posted already, even if you have everything in the game completed and bought the offers, checking all requirements listed in the initial post, it is still not enough to get a 3rd rank 4 champion.

They even went ahead and included offers in the calculations, even after advertising it as not necessary. Unless you're spending on the gifting event and are being carried by P2W alliances, its still unreachable for a F2P player at this point, which was their premise to release the title to begin with.

It feels rushed. Like it wasn't meant to come out yet, but they had to lie about it and make up some way to "get more resources", even if not f2p friendly, just as an excuse to release the title now before the deals.

There is no rush. That's the point that I, along with a few others, have been making. It's supposed to be a long-term goal for some. Otherwise, there's no point in releasing it at all. People will hit it the day it comes out.

TimeGenesis

LeNoirFaineant said:

Kiwer said:

This is totally unfair #kabam I love this game but this is getting too crazy, I do have all the requirements except to play in higher tier competitive alliance. I just don’t have time to play in top alliance now, work, school, kids, wife etc I currently play in a gold2 chill alliance, I do have 3 6*s r4 I did SPENT A LOT MONEY in this game so far, sometimes I do have problems with the wife because I spent on this game but what about us? People who still spending on this game, who has everything 100% we do deserve the title too! People have a life out of this game! #disappointing 😔

Playing in a high alliance is not a requirement. If you have 3 r4s and you beat act 7 you're good.

But they literally said high tier alliance in their post 🤷‍♂️ @LeNoirFaineant

Demonzfyre

BuggyDClown said:

BitterSteel said:

BuggyDClown said:

Demonzfyre said:

BuggyDClown said:

Demonzfyre said:

BuggyDClown said:

Wow Great timing to demotivate players like us. Yes I am not in High tier Aw ( P3 currently) and Aq( top 100). Have done all the challenges except Carina which I am working my way on. So F2Ps or players who don't spend money straight up screwed. There's difference between making said resources available slowly than having thake resources available only locked behind skill wall.
TB came when people could achieve it without spending money. Because content had enough to give you one.

But 3 r4s is total bs. Because If this new event is like Summer of pain then only very few people will get benefit from that title and it's exclusive objectives. Now remember how much gap there was between CAV rewards and TB rewards due to the point and objective system. But I coud understand that as game still offered to get you TB title with your skills and content availability.
But this new one does not give at all.it straight up BS to say have 3 r4s but when realistically players like me have at most 2 r4s at hand.
Exclude the deals and look at the all events and content till now. There's no way F2ps and very low spenders have chance to have 3 r4s anytime soon.

I know now some people jump at me saying that SPENDERS DESERVE SUCH ADVANTAGE BLA BLA BLA BLA. In reality it's rich getting richer with really no scope for other players to catch up. let me clear one thing, don't say that people will get r4 materials eventually etc etc. It's still rarest resources ( not including gifting event and 10k unit deals)in game and it will not be available in big chunks. And if this new event as I said structured like SOP, it will be a straight slap to players like me as like SOP, we may get some chunk of r4 material ; after the event ends. I am still hopeful how that event turns out. But as usual it's kind of predictable how it will come out .
Constant bugs, lags, Aw controversy and now this.

I don't understand how this is demotivating at all. It would be if it's something you could NEVER achieve but that's not the case here. You might not be Paragon day 1 but just like all other progression titles, you'll get there once you catch up.

You said it yourself, you don't high tier AQ and AW. That's not on Kabam and they can't just make a title to fit your individual needs or your personal requirements.

You missed the point by mile like always. Why isn't demotivating??? Progression titles has been gated behind story content. TB was gated behind champ rank up wall. Understandable.
But why new titel is being factorized behind PvP??? I never said to give war title to gold rank ally. I never said to factorize the war title in single mode content.
It's the direction of game I am unhappy with. I am not sad that I will not get the title on day one. I am sad because it's doesn't give fair and equal shot when it's kind of gated behind competitive mode. Don't get me wrong here. I meant to say that they wanna raise the difficulty but they only have taken spending and competitive mode in evaluation when PROGRESSION TITLE should ans always been gated to solo mode regardless of AW/Aq. They used to add some bits to it but wasn't a factor behind it.
So a player who have done all the content necessary to get r4 materials, had to be in like top alliances like top 20. So you mean this new title should only be exclusive to only 600 players meanwhile disregarding the SKILL factor????? Monetizing the Solo mode with includance of competitive mode with regards of spending too. Does it look like PROGRESSION TITLE OR TITLE made for very ELITE SPENDERS.

I can only guess that you may be in high tier war like p1 or masters alliance. And we already have issue of war cost at the hand. which ironically dealing with same issue. So can you tell me how much of SKILL factor is taken in acount rather than SPENDING when we talk about while community instead of certain group of spenders.
Why the hell AW/Aq are benchmark for justification of Story mode title???? It doesn't make any sense except the spending. Would you will be happy if War titles are distributed if suddenly solo mode is taken into consideration. Will you justify it lol

I am not currently in P1 or masters and I only have 1 R4 right now and I am a huge spender by most definitions. You're wanting to fit where you are in the game to the title presented. Just like Thronebreaker was available to those that did abyss and act 6 100% and had a R3, they did things others weren't wanting to do or willing to do. But these days, we are seeing TBs at level 56 because the mats are so much easier to come by.

There isn't anything different in this title vs TB. The day 1 release isn't meant for a wide majority but for those that are at the top because there is way less for them in the game to strive for. All they have is top tier AQ and AW to do. Also, AW and AQ aren't the benchmark for this title, it's just part of it because there is constant R4 mats in rewards.

There are F2P out there with 3 R4's, may not be as many as spenders but it's still possible. At some point we'll all be paragon and the same groups will be complaining about the requirements for the next title to be released.

You yourself said that TB was achieveable when it came. Even I did abyss for TB rank up. But you either missed or didn't wanted to point out one crucial thing. Let me remind you then. Alliances played 0 role, spending played 0 role. It was the content which had ability to present the title. AOL completion guarantees r3 rank up. Exploring act 6 gives 2nd r3. And if rng is in favour one can actually r3 their 3rd 6 star. Aq/Aw didn't mattered in it at all, as it was solo content title. That was the situation during TB introduction.

Your entire emoji-strewn post is built on shaky foundation.

In the past, progression titles were 100% built around story content - that’s why having done the story content in the past let you get there on day one. Now, progression titles are not built around story content so they have to use other aspects in the game to judge who gets it day 1. They’ve chosen previous hard content, and in this case, high tier AW and AQ.

You cannot therefore say that having done abyss or act 6 guaranteed you TB, so having done content today should guarantee you Paragon - because you’re comparing apples to oranges. Times change, parameters change. Being in a high ranking alliance could help you get T5cc before, it helps you get rank 4 materials now.

Nah you still wrong. There is difference between alliance mode and solo content. How does it make sense to tie it with Alliance mode when the whole benefit is for individual.
You are saying that having done abyss or act 6 exploration 6 guarantees the TB ?!!!
Changing the parameter to spending and justification is on the grounds in being very at top competitive mode doesn't add anything. If War title is only given to top alliances, I never saw someone saying that progression of solo content should be reflective to that.
Same way how you expect that a solo content progress is not only being tied to spending (spending should have advantage not a monopoly on day 1) but it's being reflected by and individual existence in A HIGH TIER ALLIANCE. How thats even fair??How does that even make sense? Raising difficult within content is normal. Making people pay individually is normal. Making people have advantage through sounding is normal. Making non- spenders to work hard is normal to get to the top level in solo content. But you are saying that alliances should play role in it now ???? And virtually creating a situation where non spender have 0% chance to achieve it by doing the content???? And then reflecting the progress of an individual being factorise by being in some high tier ally ( idk if they meant gifting or Aw and Aq). How does that even make sense

For the last time, they are not tying in the title to Alliance modes. They explained that AQ and AW were part of their equation in that if you played high enough in AW and AQ plus everything else they listed, you could have 3 R4's.
There.
Are.
R4.
Mats.
In.
AQ.
And.
AW.

Again, if you're someone who is chasing R4's before this title was ever announced, one of the more consistent places to get R4 mats was alliance modes. How hard is it for you to understand this? Alliance modes have always played a role in getting rank up mats. It used to be this way for anyone trying to get T4CC back with R4/5 5*'s were a thing. You HAD to play high tier AQ to get those in bulk.

And please stop with the non-spenders bit. There are non-spends with 3 R4's and there are non-spenders playing high tier AQ and AW. Y'all just making stuff up as you go along.

Demonzfyre

TimeGenesis said:

LeNoirFaineant said:

Kiwer said:

This is totally unfair #kabam I love this game but this is getting too crazy, I do have all the requirements except to play in higher tier competitive alliance. I just don’t have time to play in top alliance now, work, school, kids, wife etc I currently play in a gold2 chill alliance, I do have 3 6*s r4 I did SPENT A LOT MONEY in this game so far, sometimes I do have problems with the wife because I spent on this game but what about us? People who still spending on this game, who has everything 100% we do deserve the title too! People have a life out of this game! #disappointing 😔

Playing in a high alliance is not a requirement. If you have 3 r4s and you beat act 7 you're good.

But they literally said high tier alliance in their post 🤷‍♂️ @LeNoirFaineant

They listed high tier AQ and AW as part of how they calculated where people can get R4 mats outside of offers. It's not a requirement to be in a high tier alliance.

Darklord60

All of this is informing me that there won't be any sort of gameplay fix or any compensation for over ten month's of bugging us,,in other word's they've moved on away from this issue altogether

TimeGenesis

Demonzfyre said:

TimeGenesis said:

LeNoirFaineant said:

Kiwer said:

This is totally unfair #kabam I love this game but this is getting too crazy, I do have all the requirements except to play in higher tier competitive alliance. I just don’t have time to play in top alliance now, work, school, kids, wife etc I currently play in a gold2 chill alliance, I do have 3 6*s r4 I did SPENT A LOT MONEY in this game so far, sometimes I do have problems with the wife because I spent on this game but what about us? People who still spending on this game, who has everything 100% we do deserve the title too! People have a life out of this game! #disappointing 😔

Playing in a high alliance is not a requirement. If you have 3 r4s and you beat act 7 you're good.

But they literally said high tier alliance in their post 🤷‍♂️ @LeNoirFaineant

They listed high tier AQ and AW as part of how they calculated where people can get R4 mats outside of offers. It's not a requirement to be in a high tier alliance.

Ah gotcha. Now am happy. thanks

Demonzfyre

Jeremy3186 said:

So this is a literal paywall in MCOC for the first time... they've sold things that enhance the game for pay to play players... they speed progress for pay players.. but this will be the first time I've ever seen something that's not physically possible to achieve without paying. Heck.. most pay to pay players (non whales) can't have 3 R4's by the end of this month... this is absolutely disgusting and insane to me. 3 R3's... understandable.. 3 R4's.. you may have just given me the reason to quit the game after almost 8 years.

This is not a paywall by any means.

benshb

"a new title to grind for"

GroundedWisdom said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

thepiggy said:

Everyone critical of the requirements should be willing to post their roster, AW/AQ rankings, and all endgame content progress (Story, Abyss, Carinas).

As many have posted already, even if you have everything in the game completed and bought the offers, checking all requirements listed in the initial post, it is still not enough to get a 3rd rank 4 champion.

They even went ahead and included offers in the calculations, even after advertising it as not necessary. Unless you're spending on the gifting event and are being carried by P2W alliances, its still unreachable for a F2P player at this point, which was their premise to release the title to begin with.

It feels rushed. Like it wasn't meant to come out yet, but they had to lie about it and make up some way to "get more resources", even if not f2p friendly, just as an excuse to release the title now before the deals.

There is no rush. That's the point that I, along with a few others, have been making. It's supposed to be a long-term goal for some. Otherwise, there's no point in releasing it at all. People will hit it the day it comes out.

People already hitting it day 1. Sure, there are some F2P (I'd say I can count them with only 1 of my hand), but we know exactly that it's meant for the paying part of the players. Which is fine by me, as soon as they acknowledge it, and not trying to feed us the usual "it's for F2Ps too" BS.
Since the other requirement is only COMPLETION of Act7, which doesn't even comes close to even 1 r4, it's clear that the title is for the spenders (on day1). If they really wanted it for the non-spenders, BUT F2Ps who really trying to push forward in the game. They would have made it only 2 r4, for which you still need to 100% Act7.

GroundedWisdom

benshb said:

"a new title to grind for"

GroundedWisdom said:

Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

thepiggy said:

Everyone critical of the requirements should be willing to post their roster, AW/AQ rankings, and all endgame content progress (Story, Abyss, Carinas).

As many have posted already, even if you have everything in the game completed and bought the offers, checking all requirements listed in the initial post, it is still not enough to get a 3rd rank 4 champion.

They even went ahead and included offers in the calculations, even after advertising it as not necessary. Unless you're spending on the gifting event and are being carried by P2W alliances, its still unreachable for a F2P player at this point, which was their premise to release the title to begin with.

It feels rushed. Like it wasn't meant to come out yet, but they had to lie about it and make up some way to "get more resources", even if not f2p friendly, just as an excuse to release the title now before the deals.

There is no rush. That's the point that I, along with a few others, have been making. It's supposed to be a long-term goal for some. Otherwise, there's no point in releasing it at all. People will hit it the day it comes out.

People already hitting it day 1. Sure, there are some F2P (I'd say I can count them with only 1 of my hand), but we know exactly that it's meant for the paying part of the players. Which is fine by me, as soon as they acknowledge it, and not trying to feed us the usual "it's for F2Ps too" BS.
Since the other requirement is only COMPLETION of Act7, which doesn't even comes close to even 1 r4, it's clear that the title is for the spenders (on day1). If they really wanted it for the non-spenders, BUT F2Ps who really trying to push forward in the game. They would have made it only 2 r4, for which you still need to 100% Act7.

It's meant for all Players. People who have spent thus far to acquire R4s will be the first. What people keep losing sight of is the fact that there will be more Resources made available, and it's not solely targeted at spenders. It's not going anywhere, and it's not acquired through spending only.

GroundedWisdom

For some reason, people can't see past the money aspect like it's some sort of personal insult.

GroundedWisdom

Let me be quite frank. If I based my enjoyment and accomplishments on comparing myself with the big spenders, I'd be miserable. This whole F2P vs. P2P is a losing perspective.
I mean, it's one thing to take pride in how far we can get without spending. It's another to consider it a competitive aspect of the game. The game is not divided into spenders and non-spenders.

Kerneas

I just think 3 r4s are simply too much.

1 is guaranteed from Act 7, that's fair
1 is in Carina's let's say, that's also fair (although some are incredible cashgrab for f2p players, looking at you LoL)

And the third is nowhere to be found...yet. As it is now, I think 2 r4s would be more fair, unless they release Abyss 2 that will give it. But as of now it is literally impossible without paying (correct me if I am wrong please)

Polygon

@Kabam Miike any chance you can pass over feedback to the team to have the number reverted to 2? 3 just seems way too far fetched and enough players, including several end game players have chimed in on this.

From the original post, isn’t Paragon aimed to be targeted to those end game players that have completed everything? It seems like a misalignment if those same players are the ones insisting that the requirement should be changed to 2 r4’s

airmundo

Kerneas said:

I just think 3 r4s are simply too much.

1 is guaranteed from Act 7, that's fair
1 is in Carina's let's say, that's also fair (although some are incredible cashgrab for f2p players, looking at you LoL)

And the third is nowhere to be found...yet. As it is now, I think 2 r4s would be more fair, unless they release Abyss 2 that will give it. But as of now it is literally impossible without paying (correct me if I am wrong please)

Carina can be done for F2P just requires a lot of farming revives. Lots of play time and planning but doable.

100% agree on third R4 no where to be found though. If it was just 2 R4’s needed then I’d agree with kabam when they say achievable “regardless of monetary investments” but to say 3 of them are at this point in the game is wrong. Maybe in another 6 months to a year but not right now.

Lorddrew

Very happy with a new title, not so happy with the requirements.
I have cleared every single SOP/Content but abyss and carina v1. Since those combined with input items seem so terrible designed. It's not something for "skilled" players, some designs are purposly made for a champ to get KO'd even with the best counter.

rephrase skill with cash, that would read more in line with the reality.

A new title should feel rewarding, not a like an investment, TB is why i have a darkhawk r3 sig 200.
6* RNG or targeting champs that you would like to rank up are still a thing.
If things like % based potions were a thing or even a new way to target champions getting those "free" recourses would be more achieveble.

Now you basicly reward those that give 20k on cybermonday, not those that enjoy marvel..