The best solution will be to add para gauntlet rewards to people who did not exploited that and also giving them additional rewards. Giving them additional rewards will encourage people not to do exploits in future. Also no bans for people exploited para gauntlet as it is Kabam mistake
"Oh nooooooo!!!!! I got everything I was entitled to but someone else got moooooore!!!!"
I have no clue how you people get through real life if the fact that someone got a free fake item that you didn't get bothers you so much. Life is really gonna slap you in the face when you graduate high school.
I did ut a second and third time for event quest completion solo event because the paragauntles was very easy last month. I didn't get any second set of rewards.
I then saw 80% of my alli mates hearing about the bug, redoing the gauntlet and getting a second set of rewards. To say it didn't sting a bit would be a lie
I did ut a second and third time for event quest completion solo event because the paragauntles was very easy last month. I didn't get any second set of rewards.
I then saw 80% of my alli mates hearing about the bug, redoing the gauntlet and getting a second set of rewards. To say it didn't sting a bit would be a lie
Such is life. I've routinely warned alliance mates not to this stuff only for members to watch others reap the rewards. Such is life haha.
"Oh nooooooo!!!!! I got everything I was entitled to but someone else got moooooore!!!!"
I have no clue how you people get through real life if the fact that someone got a free fake item that you didn't get bothers you so much. Life is really gonna slap you in the face when you graduate high school.
This is such a stupid argument. If you don't care about 'free fake items' then why are you even playing this game? So you would be happy if everyone else was allowed to repeat act 8 and obtain double rewards but you weren't? Or even simpler, everyone else got a free gift of a R3 gem but you didn't? Technically you're not entitled to any gift by your previous logic, so you should just shrug off the fact that other people got a bonus 'free fake item'.
If you are so set on a real world example, you're not 'entitled' to anything beyond your salary at your job. But if you saw a coworker got a bonus that year, but you got nothing when you did the same amount of work as them, you're going to feel hard done by.
It's not necessarily the rewards here, it's the principle. It happened earlier this month and some people were allowed to double dip on victory track rewards. Does it matter that much? Probably not. Are people happy about it? Of course not, they feel like they're missing out, because they are.
"Oh nooooooo!!!!! I got everything I was entitled to but someone else got moooooore!!!!"
I have no clue how you people get through real life if the fact that someone got a free fake item that you didn't get bothers you so much. Life is really gonna slap you in the face when you graduate high school.
why are you even playing this game?
To kill time and have fun. I also enjoy progressing my roster, just like everyone else. As long as I get what I am supposed to get, if a few people get a little extra, it's no skin off my back.
"Oh nooooooo!!!!! I got everything I was entitled to but someone else got moooooore!!!!"
I have no clue how you people get through real life if the fact that someone got a free fake item that you didn't get bothers you so much. Life is really gonna slap you in the face when you graduate high school.
So you would be happy if everyone else was allowed to repeat act 8 and obtain double rewards but you weren't? Or even simpler, everyone else got a free gift of a R3 gem but you didn't? Technically you're not entitled to any gift by your previous logic, so you should just shrug off the fact that other people got a bonus 'free fake item'.
Yeah, I wouldn't care. I didn't do any extra runs of gauntlet so I did get anything extra. And here I am saying it's no big deal.
"Oh nooooooo!!!!! I got everything I was entitled to but someone else got moooooore!!!!"
I have no clue how you people get through real life if the fact that someone got a free fake item that you didn't get bothers you so much. Life is really gonna slap you in the face when you graduate high school.
If you are so set on a real world example, you're not 'entitled' to anything beyond your salary at your job. But if you saw a coworker got a bonus that year, but you got nothing when you did the same amount of work as them, you're going to feel hard done by.
I'm not sure why you're bringing up the bonus hypothetical. I said fake items in a mobile game don't matter. Bonus income in real life absolutely matters.
And I've been in the situation you described with a manager who played favorites and screwed me over with bonuses and vacation time and other things. Yeah, it sucked. But you know what I did? What an adult does. I got a new job.
But again, all of that is completely irrelevant to the discussion because those are things that actually affect my life. This is a game. It's not that big a deal.
Yeah, I wouldn't care. I didn't do any extra runs of gauntlet so I did get anything extra. And here I am saying it's no big deal.
I highly doubt that you wouldn't care if everyone got a free gift of a R3 gem and you didn't. I get that the game isn't a big deal for you and you don't really care about some of the items in the game. And if this game had no spending element, I probably wouldn't care either. But for other people, especially those that spend money, it's really not acceptable when people get free rewards considering you've probably paid for less valuable items, as the t6cc and 7 star shards, which are some of the most valuable items in game.
My main point still stands. It simply doesn't feel good to be excluded for no legitimate reason, other than 'Kabam screwed up again.' It's like being picked last for a sports team, especially when you don't consider yourself the worst player. It doesn't matter at all, but it still doesn't feel good, simply because it feels unfair.
Wait what? So Kabam didnt even hold up to their word when they stated that although those who did it without exploration during the bug would not get banned, but would not be able to do it again a 2nd time?
How many times has this happened now that people exploit a bug without being reprimanded and those honest players are left with the short end of the stick?
There was a season in BGs in which players were able to grind out trophy tokens due to a glitch in the rankings before everyones rank reset, and there was no compensation there either.
This begs the question, why be a ToS abiding player, when players can abuse exploits without consequences and honest players are left without any compensation?
Yeah, I wouldn't care. I didn't do any extra runs of gauntlet so I did get anything extra. And here I am saying it's no big deal.
I highly doubt that you wouldn't care if everyone got a free gift of a R3 gem and you didn't. I get that the game isn't a big deal for you and you don't really care about some of the items in the game. And if this game had no spending element, I probably wouldn't care either. But for other people, especially those that spend money, it's really not acceptable when people get free rewards considering you've probably paid for less valuable items, as the t6cc and 7 star shards, which are some of the most valuable items in game.
My main point still stands. It simply doesn't feel good to be excluded for no legitimate reason, other than 'Kabam screwed up again.' It's like being picked last for a sports team, especially when you don't consider yourself the worst player. It doesn't matter at all, but it still doesn't feel good, simply because it feels unfair.
Boo hoo. Life isn't fair. There are much more important inequities in life that are actually worth devoting my limited bandwidth to.
Doubt all you want, but I wouldn't care. Or, more accurately, I'd be annoyed for a brief moment and then I'd move on. It's also not an equivalent situation, because in your example, I am being specifically excluded in a way that appeared to be intentional, rather than it just being an accidental situation that a small number of people were able to benefit from. But I also use hyperbolic examples when debating so I won't belabor the point.
I am also a spender. Not a huge amount, but enough to notice. This is also an irrelevant example, because people are not getting a reward for free that you paid for. They are getting more free rewards than you. And I'm also 100% certain that a significant number of the people who went through the extra runs used items to do so, so it wasn't quite free for them anyway.
However, since you brought spending up, here's another example. Let's say you paid to go see a movie. Later you discover that someone of the people whom you saw the movie with stayed and snuck into another movie. Is your response to go to the management and demand free tickets since other people got to see a free movie?
I purposefully didn't re-run it in case it was considered an exploit, but Kabam aren't even acknowledging it and now people who didn't re-run it are at a disadvantage. Idk man, feels bad. I didn't double dip on battlegrounds rewards either. Way to make your honest players feel under-appreciated, Kabam.
I purposefully didn't re-run it in case it was considered an exploit, but Kabam aren't even acknowledging it and now people who didn't re-run it are at a disadvantage. Idk man, feels bad. I didn't double dip on battlegrounds rewards either. Way to make your honest players feel under-appreciated, Kabam.
What was the double dipping in BG rewards?
BGs launched sooner than it shouldve and people basically got free trophy tokens. No action was taken against the exploiters , and no compensation was given to those that chose to abide by the ToS.
If anyone can notice, the communication from Kabam isnt firm. On one side, we’re told that if we farm in BGs we’ll get banned. However on the other side, we have seen multiple exploits go by without any action to the exploiters, Such as the BGs and paragon gauntlet fiasco
This is silly. I run that quest for event quest completion and hero use as do many people. To call this an exploit is ridiculous and to beg for compensation just means you’re just a hypocrite who wants the rewards while pretending to be a pious person.
Out of all the quests you can do for hero use, this is probably the last anyone would pick.
This is silly. I run that quest for event quest completion and hero use as do many people. To call this an exploit is ridiculous and to beg for compensation just means you’re just a hypocrite who wants the rewards while pretending to be a pious person.
Out of all the quests you can do for hero use, this is probably the last anyone would pick.
It makes sense if he wants to do this quest for event quest completion (which was not even the topic of discussion) but to just beat down someone's point, bro said he would do the Paragauntlet for hero use 😭
I think the issue here, at least for me, is inconsistency. I also don’t agree with the “I demand compensation” attitude. I didn’t run it a 2nd time because I didn’t want to get put in timeout. However, this has happened enough now that if they don’t pop those who did run it twice, there is no incentive not to join their ranks next time. Don’t penalize me for sneaking a peek if you decide to run around with no clothes on again and again.
This is why I've consistently said that it's impossible to do and just a Kabam L. How would you separate the people who did it knowingly from the people who run that quest for event quest and hero use (to farm revives for Necropolis)?
The issue is not people running the gauntlet multiple times. As you said, they are welcome to do that as they wish. The issue is if they got rewards multiple times.
So intention is irrelevant, all that matters is multiple rewards. Rewards should be removed. I don't think Bans or Compensation is needed, just removal.
And besides, running a second time just for Event Completion and happening to get duplicate rewards is believable. But, if you run it a third time and now have 3x the rewards you should be receiving, the intention clearly is now about getting the rewards, so Solo objective milestones are no longer a believable defense at all.
This is why I've consistently said that it's impossible to do and just a Kabam L. How would you separate the people who did it knowingly from the people who run that quest for event quest and hero use (to farm revives for Necropolis)?
The issue is not people running the gauntlet multiple times. As you said, they are welcome to do that as they wish. The issue is if they got rewards multiple times.
So intention is irrelevant, all that matters is multiple rewards. Rewards should be removed. I don't think Bans or Compensation is needed, just removal.
And besides, running a second time just for Event Completion and happening to get duplicate rewards is believable. But, if you run it a third time and now have 3x the rewards you should be receiving, the intention clearly is now about getting the rewards, so Solo objective milestones are no longer a believable defense at all.
Hero Use is entirely a laughable defense.
Now that I think about it, rewards being removed makes more sense than compensations or bans. But the problem is, they said the same about the mythic crystal situation and look where we are now (people still have the champs, shards obtained from dupes, the gold and the iso too). If they manage to carry it out well, removal of rewards is fine too.
I see people listing the paragon gauntlet for EQ completion points but it is still not listed there - how many points does it give? Bwcause if it's a lot I might do it more than once this month just for that.
I see people listing the paragon gauntlet for EQ completion points but it is still not listed there - how many points does it give? Bwcause if it's a lot I might do it more than once this month just for that.
If I'm not wrong, two runs of the paragon gauntlet means all the five objectives of "event completion" being done. That's 12 energy for completing "event completion" solo objectives.
I see people listing the paragon gauntlet for EQ completion points but it is still not listed there - how many points does it give? Bwcause if it's a lot I might do it more than once this month just for that.
If I'm not wrong, two runs of the paragon gauntlet means all the five objectives of "event completion" being done. That's 12 energy for completing "event completion" solo objectives.
I see people listing the paragon gauntlet for EQ completion points but it is still not listed there - how many points does it give? Bwcause if it's a lot I might do it more than once this month just for that.
If I'm not wrong, two runs of the paragon gauntlet means all the five objectives of "event completion" being done. That's 12 energy for completing "event completion" solo objectives.
Dayum!
You should definitely try it out. Although the bosses are a bit annoying, 12 fights for all solo objectives is sweet.
I see people listing the paragon gauntlet for EQ completion points but it is still not listed there - how many points does it give? Bwcause if it's a lot I might do it more than once this month just for that.
I purposefully didn't re-run it in case it was considered an exploit, but Kabam aren't even acknowledging it and now people who didn't re-run it are at a disadvantage. Idk man, feels bad. I didn't double dip on battlegrounds rewards either. Way to make your honest players feel under-appreciated, Kabam.
What was the double dipping in BG rewards?
BGs launched sooner than it shouldve and people basically got free trophy tokens. No action was taken against the exploiters , and no compensation was given to those that chose to abide by the ToS.
If anyone can notice, the communication from Kabam isnt firm. On one side, we’re told that if we farm in BGs we’ll get banned. However on the other side, we have seen multiple exploits go by without any action to the exploiters, Such as the BGs and paragon gauntlet fiasco
Exploiters? You really want to feel like a paragon of virtue eh? I didn't play because I expected the rewards not to apply but your bitterness towards the people who did is extreme lol.
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I have no clue how you people get through real life if the fact that someone got a free fake item that you didn't get bothers you so much. Life is really gonna slap you in the face when you graduate high school.
I then saw 80% of my alli mates hearing about the bug, redoing the gauntlet and getting a second set of rewards. To say it didn't sting a bit would be a lie
If you are so set on a real world example, you're not 'entitled' to anything beyond your salary at your job. But if you saw a coworker got a bonus that year, but you got nothing when you did the same amount of work as them, you're going to feel hard done by.
It's not necessarily the rewards here, it's the principle. It happened earlier this month and some people were allowed to double dip on victory track rewards. Does it matter that much? Probably not. Are people happy about it? Of course not, they feel like they're missing out, because they are.
So the cheaters do not deserve them, the others who didn’t even knew there is a Bug do not deserve them, nobody.
They might take the items away and temporarily ban the biggest cheaters, that’s how they usually handle this. But we can just wait for their info.
And I've been in the situation you described with a manager who played favorites and screwed me over with bonuses and vacation time and other things. Yeah, it sucked. But you know what I did? What an adult does. I got a new job.
But again, all of that is completely irrelevant to the discussion because those are things that actually affect my life. This is a game. It's not that big a deal.
My main point still stands. It simply doesn't feel good to be excluded for no legitimate reason, other than 'Kabam screwed up again.' It's like being picked last for a sports team, especially when you don't consider yourself the worst player. It doesn't matter at all, but it still doesn't feel good, simply because it feels unfair.
How many times has this happened now that people exploit a bug without being reprimanded and those honest players are left with the short end of the stick?
There was a season in BGs in which players were able to grind out trophy tokens due to a glitch in the rankings before everyones rank reset, and there was no compensation there either.
This begs the question, why be a ToS abiding player, when players can abuse exploits without consequences and honest players are left without any compensation?
Doubt all you want, but I wouldn't care. Or, more accurately, I'd be annoyed for a brief moment and then I'd move on. It's also not an equivalent situation, because in your example, I am being specifically excluded in a way that appeared to be intentional, rather than it just being an accidental situation that a small number of people were able to benefit from. But I also use hyperbolic examples when debating so I won't belabor the point.
I am also a spender. Not a huge amount, but enough to notice. This is also an irrelevant example, because people are not getting a reward for free that you paid for. They are getting more free rewards than you. And I'm also 100% certain that a significant number of the people who went through the extra runs used items to do so, so it wasn't quite free for them anyway.
However, since you brought spending up, here's another example. Let's say you paid to go see a movie. Later you discover that someone of the people whom you saw the movie with stayed and snuck into another movie. Is your response to go to the management and demand free tickets since other people got to see a free movie?
- This thread.
If anyone can notice, the communication from Kabam isnt firm. On one side, we’re told that if we farm in BGs we’ll get banned. However on the other side, we have seen multiple exploits go by without any action to the exploiters, Such as the BGs and paragon gauntlet fiasco
The issue is if they got rewards multiple times.
So intention is irrelevant, all that matters is multiple rewards. Rewards should be removed. I don't think Bans or Compensation is needed, just removal.
And besides, running a second time just for Event Completion and happening to get duplicate rewards is believable. But, if you run it a third time and now have 3x the rewards you should be receiving, the intention clearly is now about getting the rewards, so Solo objective milestones are no longer a believable defense at all.
Hero Use is entirely a laughable defense.