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Grub88 · February 12

You would think the harder fights would be closer to the end like in all other content, lets keep hoping though

Terminatrix · February 12

Void works great if you're not concerned about the objectives! 😁 I've only made a post about him before seeing this one 5 days and 18 pages later lol

End of my fight:

https://youtu.be/GbOzvNoBWqY?si=jE1ZD2yQgYJfgBx_

5 reasons I chose Void:

1. Class Advantage (Hits harder and Degen works slower)
2. Petrify to stop regeneration (Spam Sp 1)
3. Incinerate immune. AbsMan can be pushed to Sp 2 if needed and it won't affect Void.
4. One hell of an intercepter.
5. Sp 2 inflicts Power Sting which will give a weakness or degen.

UlfricFrost · February 12

This is simple, Kabam you are in the wrong here. If you are going to leave a ridiculous fight in the game at least make the cost to do the fight either free or the cheapest it can possibly be. Blah blah blah blah blah revive farm blah blah blah blah blah. Fix the problem, listen to the community, DO BETTER.

I_tell_no_tales_1 · February 12

Absorbing man has evolved into Mike Tyson and will light intercept every hit I try to land

TangerineBalls · February 12

Outrageous that Kabam have made the WoW 10 energy to run this event. Knowing full well people will be forever restarting the event over and over to retry this fight. It’s going to take 30,40,50+ goes at trying to nail this guy and that’s going to cost crazy energy refills. Low blow from Kabam, they should be making this type of challenging content 1 energy to run, the amount of retries required to get your muscle memory and skills honed in for such a fight. We’re going to get 7 goes with a full energy count, before having to splash out on refills. Another sly way of potentially fun content… errr not so fun!

GroundedWisdom · February 12

I'm down to 2 Refills and still no luck. You either play perfectly through one run through, or you're screwed. I don't understand how a Fight like this is left as it is. This isn't just a challenge. The only people who enjoy this are the best of the best of the best at the game, and that's not a gauge to place on Players, even at the Paragon and up stage. I'm either going to give up on this or drive myself crazy. Either way at this point, it's hard to find the willingness to keep trying. Every technique I try ends in me getting side swiped, and spending all my energy trying again. Grr. Lol! Not fun.

GrO_ot78 · February 12

Got him down with R4 200 sig Void, fully boosted. Spam sp 1, no regen, a few revives, done 🫡

Raganator · February 12

Having now done the fight, I don't have much to add beyond what has already been said. I love Everest content, but this fight may be my least favorite - and at minimum hits my top 3 least favorite (list includes Abyss boss, no retreat champion boss (back in the day), and this fight). Just not fun or enjoyable. Any given node or interaction on their own would probably be fine, but it seems we are back to the point we were like 5 years ago - just keep adding nodes to try and outsmart the players. I don't even see this fight as being creative. And yes, the energy cost is just stupid.

Chovner · February 12

GroundedWisdom said:
I'm down to 2 Refills and still no luck. You either play perfectly through one run through, or you're screwed. I don't understand how a Fight like this is left as it is. This isn't just a challenge. The only people who enjoy this are the best of the best of the best at the game, and that's not a gauge to place on Players, even at the Paragon and up stage. I'm either going to give up on this or drive myself crazy. Either way at this point, it's hard to find the willingness to keep trying. Every technique I try ends in me getting side swiped, and spending all my energy trying again. Grr. Lol! Not fun.

You know it's bad when this man isn't somehow defending something Kabam released.....

This fight is nuts, I've burned through so much energy with nothing to show for it other than stress, PTSD, and a cracked phone case from phone rage quit syndrome

GroundedWisdom · February 12

Chovner said:

GroundedWisdom said:
I'm down to 2 Refills and still no luck. You either play perfectly through one run through, or you're screwed. I don't understand how a Fight like this is left as it is. This isn't just a challenge. The only people who enjoy this are the best of the best of the best at the game, and that's not a gauge to place on Players, even at the Paragon and up stage. I'm either going to give up on this or drive myself crazy. Either way at this point, it's hard to find the willingness to keep trying. Every technique I try ends in me getting side swiped, and spending all my energy trying again. Grr. Lol! Not fun.
You know it's bad when this man isn't somehow defending something Kabam released.....

This fight is nuts, I've burned through so much energy with nothing to show for it other than stress, PTSD, and a cracked phone case from phone rage quit syndrome

The Regen needs to be adjusted, or the Brute Force, one or the other. Then it's a slog, but it's more doable. As it is now, it's just torture.

Chovner · February 12

My wife's instructed me I'm only allowed to try that fight once her and the kids have went to bed, because I'm apparently "too touchy" for about 30-40 minutes after burning through 70 energy on the fight lol.

I'm stumped, I've NEVER had this much trouble making progress in a fight. And I want to highlight that I'm not expecting to solo the fight, just make positive PROGRESS. I'd say I've spent 10 revives worth of energy trying the Gamma objective and the best I've done is 15%. One run I decided to just revive a couple times and after 6 revives Abs Man was at 100% health, and I was at the end of my patience.

I was able to get the fight done with 7* Sandman, but it was the one time where the AI actually cooperated and acted aggressive the whole fight. Every other time since then Abs Man holds block and waits for me to do something (usually dash in) to light intercept me, or just waits me out until brute force and unstoppable kicks in... BRUTAL!!! I can't even imagine how I'd be doing if I was trying the robots objective (I don't think I will

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o_o · February 12

I_tell_no_tales_1 said:
Absorbing man has evolved into Mike Tyson and will light intercept every hit I try to land

DrZola · February 12

Chovner said:
My wife's instructed me I'm only allowed to try that fight once her and the kids have went to bed, because I'm apparently "too touchy" for about 30-40 minutes after burning through 70 energy on the fight lol.

I'm stumped, I've NEVER had this much trouble making progress in a fight. And I want to highlight that I'm not expecting to solo the fight, just make positive PROGRESS. I'd say I've spent 10 revives worth of energy trying the Gamma objective and the best I've done is 15%. One run I decided to just revive a couple times and after 6 revives Abs Man was at 100% health, and I was at the end of my patience.

I was able to get the fight done with 7* Sandman, but it was the one time where the AI actually cooperated and acted aggressive the whole fight. Every other time since then Abs Man holds block and waits for me to do something (usually dash in) to light intercept me, or just waits me out until brute force and unstoppable kicks in... BRUTAL!!! I can't even imagine how I'd be doing if I was trying the robots objective (I don't think I will )

I burned a dumb number of pots and simply HulkSmashed. I watched a few videos and concluded “what the heck, let’s ride and see what happens!” As others have pointed out, it’s basically get close to Sp2 and drop Sp1 into a physically vulnerable AbsMan. Watch out for the unstoppable and go ham stun locking until you die. Don’t even think about letting Abs drop anything other than a Sp3.

It isn’t fun. It’s poorly designed. The game doesn’t seem to be able to handle all the interactions going on. Things like lag, AI behavior, striker misfires and janky inputs seem even more prevalent given the high stakes and punishment built into the fight.

Will I hit the #robot objective? Maybe. I flirted with Viv and WL a few times and just put the game down and watched football.

Weirdly, energy is less of an issue right now—but only because I’ve found myself not turning to the game much at all. When I do, it’s to auto-fight one of the silly-easy energy suck quests that popped up alongside WoW this week. I even forgot BGs existed for the last 5 days.

All of this can be summed up thusly: if the intent was to nudge me to put MCoC way on the back burner, then mission accomplished!

Dr. Zola

Chovner · February 12

Yeah I decided to do what I normally do every month and go back to knocking out TB and Paragon EQ, then move onto other things. This was the first month in a while I had little progress in EQ halfway through the month.

Last EOP was challenging but I was still having fun constantly trying to take on that rotation's boss and doing a little better every time until finally committing to a decent run, throwing revies and pots and knocking it out. This boss is no fun, no learning, infinite loop of pots in my case... Necropolis was hard and satisfying, this is hard and kinda garbage.

I'd rather fight Necro Air Walker with every Necro global node one at a time to knock off this one objective as opposed to fighting this Abs Man once...

Standardman1989 · February 12

We still don't have the answer for the additional point when it is relevant. I finished with Hulk but only 2 points

ItsClobberinTime · February 12

Jeez 18 pages full of complaints... Kabam, do better, almost nobody's happy with this.

PistolcuApa · February 12

I've done the robot task with r4 viv vision ascended. Took me 15 revives because the bloody ai did not want to co-operate. 1st run was with hitmonkey 5 revives. With the free point they're awarding, 20 revives ain't so bad for 2 t6bc and 2 t3a. Or is it? Used like 10 stashed energy refills.

Malchaeis · February 13

For anybody stuck and can't solo him, there is a way to chip damage him. It's not an ideal way by any means but it can work if you have revives. Usually around 50% health, his regen can completely overwhelm your advancement if you die and restart the fight. He will only start to regen once he throws his first special. Using just level 1 revives, try to do as much damage as you can and try not to bait his specials. If Using she hulk, just do the fight normally (parry heavy attack to add slow etc.) and use your special 1. Hold block after it and usually he will dash in. Intercept him either with a light attack or a dash of your own if your fast enough. Can try to get a heavy in by charging it but Brute force might kill you before he throws his special. But as long as you die before or to the special he won't regen much. Can chip 3-9% health or more off depending on the AI or your skill a revive. Like I said it's not ideal but an option.

Zeke_the_Xbot · February 13

There is no tracker or special rewards but I would love to see the raw fail and success rates of this and subsequent fights.

ReignkingTW · February 13

Standardman1989 said:
We still don't have the answer for the additional point when it is relevant. I finished with Hulk but only 2 points

Why do people expect them to have this answer when they just made it up? They can't even do the mastery point math you expect this overnight?

Sajadala_Geezy · February 13

The general consensus here is that we all want challenging content but this is TOO MUCH. It’s unbearable and unenjoyable. I got reemed because I mentioned ways they need to nerf this fight a bit. It wouldn’t take much: get rid of unstoppable or brute force and adjust that regen a bit. Even with the broken AI, higher rank players should be able to overcome it. People hated me for suggesting that but the majority is over this challenge (myself included) and after Kabam’s message of “we are not changing anything” is kind of a slap in the face for players who love the game and players who spend money to any degree. Sucks but I stopped playing some years ago and got back on last year. I’ve been enjoying it, but it’s looking like I’m going to take the month off at least and see what’s next.

Bulmkt · February 13

I’m an Adult MCOC player of 8 years and at every significant spending event such as 4 JUL and Cyber week I often spend around AUD$500 on the various cash deals on offer during these special events.

I’m Valiant progression and have completed (not fully explored) most of the game content. I consider myself a better than average player (I acknowledge I’m not a Top Gun Player but cut me some slack as I’m 51 years old!)

But I can’t for the life of me beat this juiced up Abs-Man in EOP 2.0 WoW. I managed to get Abs-Man to 12% HP with my duped R2 7-Star Hulk OG when I got KO’d. I thought I’d just revive and take out the final 12%. To my complete dismay all I did was watch in total despair as Abs-man regenerated his health in quick succession all the way back to 70%. That’s soul destroying to see. It’s also annoying and you just don’t want to participant with content designed like this.

WoW just isn’t enjoyable game content IMO. We’re now asked to try and play near impossible opponents who seem to have a sole purpose to make us players use items or worse, drain our saved Units to buy more items or doubly worse to make us spend money to buy more Units to be used on buying more revives and HP potions.

If the future direction of MCOC is impossible content like WoW then I think I have reached the point where I don’t have the skill to continue so rather than rage quit the game because I have invested a lot of my time and money playing I’ll just become another of the ever growing 100% F2P players and just take it easy.

I'll just collect my free daily Valiant crystal and just participant in content that is fun to play (BG's, Season AW & monthly EQ) and await the day when the penny drops by the other spenders that’s not worth contributing to a mobile game that through design has slowly killed off the enjoyment this game once held.

Grub88 · February 13

Challenging fights is like any of the Act 7 or 8 bosses or the unique nodes like in Necropolis. Challenging is not throwing a bunch of rubbish nodes on an already broken character on top of a rubbish AI.

Phantomfire500 · February 13

PROG73 said:
Can someone please confirm the math for me based on what has been said?

I am valiant and have managed to do the gamma objective - overseer was all I had and it was painful. Can I still get to the top milestone based on what kabam have said about the extra point and also the grace point for the objective with deathless guillotine? Also when do we get the additional point- I show as having only 2 so far.

Thanks

I think the Valiant (and paragon) grace point requires deathless Guilly @PROG73

Sajadala_Geezy · February 13

I just finished WoW with She hulk (gamma) I’m not doing the robot challenge. As a Paragon, will I still be able to hit top prize as well? Also, can anyone explain the grace point that I’m hearing about?

GroundedWisdom · February 13

I'm absolutely disgusted. I just went through my entire Revive stores trying the suggestions people were kind enough to share with me. That Champ with those Nodes and sneaky AI that darts across for an aggressive one-shot kill? No excuse for it. I'm tired of trying and scrambling for ways to take him down and pretending it's okay. Leaving the Fight in the game the way it is, is just wrong. Period. Over it. It needs to be toned down or shut down. I'm not going to sit here and say it's reasonable. The frustration, the Resources, all of it. There comes a point where you have to say enough is enough. It's the definition of unfair.

GroundedWisdom · February 13

I'm disappointed at the outcome of this. I don't know how much more feedback it would take to get the message across.

ReignkingTW · February 13

GroundedWisdom said:
I'm disappointed at the outcome of this. I don't know how much more feedback it would take to get the message across.

Between your struggles and reading about the insane regen negating any progress, this is a real low point.

TrongNov · February 13

GroundedWisdom said:
I'm disappointed at the outcome of this. I don't know how much more feedback it would take to get the message across.

If you have Quicksilver, use him. He's the safest option, he counters unstoppable and if you run despair, Abs won't ever regen, Of course he doesn't have those tags. Given that you know QS's rotation, even you can't kill Abs in one go, you can chip his health away without worrying him gaining back the HP he already lost.

GroundedWisdom · February 13

TrongNov said:

GroundedWisdom said:
I'm disappointed at the outcome of this. I don't know how much more feedback it would take to get the message across.
If you have Quicksilver, use him. He's the safest option, he counters unstoppable and if you run despair, Abs won't ever regen, Of course he doesn't have those tags. Given that you know QS's rotation, even you can't kill Abs in one go, you can chip his health away without worrying him gaining back the HP he already lost.

Tried and failed.

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