Serpent Really Isn’t Getting Rebalanced?

1161719212232

Comments

  • Mirac1eMirac1e Member Posts: 57
    smdam38 said:

    First of all, I said OVER 40k points.

    Second of all, I don’t play that game mode at all.
    explains
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,418 ★★★★★

    Fighting Serpent is just awful. It's like he's an EoP fight in non EoP modes.

    Anytime I see him now in BG it's an instant ban even unduped. It's just not worth tailoring my deck specifically around him. You need 4 counters to him (kushala, america, SS, wiccan) so that if your 3 get banned you still have 1 left. Only you might not get that champ due to rng of the draft. Just easier to ban him and not worry about it.

    Imagine if we see him as the last SoS boss
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,418 ★★★★★
    19 pages already, I wonder how long this will continue to last
  • ESFESF Member Posts: 2,084 ★★★★★
    BigBlueOx said:

    Ok. I’ll definitely give a tip of the cap to this. Thats a cool Easter eggy interaction. Too bad for me that old T-Rex arms might be my least favorite champ they’ve ever released. And rather use anyone else, including Blue Cyclops as he exists now
    LOL I also have a feeling, if Truth Serum was administered to all involved, the fact that a ton of players dislike T-Rex Arms 😅😅 also amused a few people at Kabam HQ, because if you don’t have a Kushala yet, and Chavez and Tigra are tricky enough to keep you from getting him down…LOL

    Why…why won’t they just give him a more dignified model? WHY?!?! 😅😅😅
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 1,763 ★★★

    Oh we can tell, trust me. Maybe go try it out for yourself before saying he doesn't need a nerf then?
    I trust you man lol.

    I’m on the nerf side goofy. Even though it affects me absolutely zero.

    I still support the players.
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,732 ★★★★★

    Spot on. Serpent is a defender who invalidates skill. You can learn to dex onslaught's sp1, push photon into pure light at zero power, light intercept korg. Atleast when I lose to these, I still respect them as it pushes me to develop my skill further. What does serpent require me to do? Dash back and turtle up to take specials.
    I mean that’s the pinnacle of skill according to all the people thinking “git gud” is the answer to this one
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 1,763 ★★★
    Very good point.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,418 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    I definitely think that’s the goal lmao. New toxic defender and they said they’d stop doing hard counters for a while so while we may get good options, we’ll have to wait a while

    If there are a bunch of mystics coming this year like spiral then we could hopefully see some good options for him before the end of the year but that might be too optimistic
    Then they’re milking the whales then
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,443 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    I definitely think that’s the goal lmao. New toxic defender and they said they’d stop doing hard counters for a while so while we may get good options, we’ll have to wait a while

    If there are a bunch of mystics coming this year like spiral then we could hopefully see some good options for him before the end of the year but that might be too optimistic
    I think it's a lot more likely that they'll release counters from other classes rather than mystic ones exclusively.
    For example if Dani's damage wasn't burst and crit reliant she would be a great counter, same thing for Luke he wouldn't be as slow if he could deal more damage.
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,732 ★★★★★
    edited September 2024

    I think it's a lot more likely that they'll release counters from other classes rather than mystic ones exclusively.
    For example if Dani's damage wasn't burst and crit reliant she would be a great counter, same thing for Luke he wouldn't be as slow if he could deal more damage.
    There’s that troublesome element of hit kit, where non-mystics are immediately handicapped vs him though that really makes it hard to truly counter him outside of class relationships. That alone severely restricted our options.

    If that was adjusted to simply say his power gain can not be inverted below 0 by non-mystics it would open up alot more options
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,418 ★★★★★

    His kit is just so random. His kit screws over typical mystic abilities but you’re supposed to use mystics to counter him and control his power rate. Even though power is generally controlled by science and tech champs. It almost feels like Serpent should’ve been mystic and he’s superior to other mystics saying they can’t touch him, but science champs should be the ones to counter him. I don’t know this champ is just so bizarre.
    That’s why I call him the defensive Hercules
  • DarkNightRiseDarkNightRise Member Posts: 461 ★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    The discord is going crazy rn lol. They’re fuming
    Do they response on Discord or just keep silence like here forum?
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,443 ★★★★★
    BigBlueOx said:

    There’s that troublesome element of hit kit, where non-mystics are immediately handicapped vs him though that really makes it hard to truly counter him outside of class relationships. That alone severely restricted our options.

    If that was adjusted to simply say his power gain can not be inverted below 0 by non-mystics it would open up alot more options
    Realistically though we just need them to have dot, if Dani and Luke dealt damage through dot they would be able to nuke Serpent pretty easily so while I do agree either the death immunity buff or the power gain have to be addressed (at least one of them) that main problem is that stupid dread. That's the only reason he's so tanky but anything with massive dot could do the fight.
  • ESFESF Member Posts: 2,084 ★★★★★
    What you see above in the three practice kills of the Serpent with Thor (Ragnarok) is the absolute consistency of the kills — it’s absolutely a rotation. Anyone can do the rotation.

    Again, it’s not easy and it is not fast. But it can be done.

    But not with ANYTHING that helps an already broken kit. My gosh. I cannot believe that kit didn’t get tuned IN ANY WAY
Sign In or Register to comment.