Where is it written that Spidey (or Ultron, NC, BW,...) can evade 2 hits at the same time?
Where is it written that Spidey's evade (same with Ultron, NC, BW,...) causes Drax's pushback?
Answer : NOWHERE.
Conclusion : It's a nerf. Do your homework. My turn to laugh.
Lol u want my homework here it is
So it says Mordo can evade all non special attacks now let's look at this hmmm is a double hit an special attack answer no so therefore it DOES say he can evade it so like I said you got an F on your homework do urself a favor and read carefully ROTFLMAO
Dude...
What do you think about X-23's and AA's Heavies? They both by-pass Astral Evade though...
And once again : I don't care about Mordo. He's easy fight. Drax has been nerfed against all evaders.
The idea that they only make changes that benefit them has been debunked many times before, so there's no need to again here.
Well, well. You just piqued my interest there. Can you please point out a few examples, e.g. forum posts that substantiate this particular statement. I apparently missed them, which is only human, I guess, so I would love to play catch up. Given the (apparently) multitude of debunks out in the wild, I suppose that would be fairly easy to do, so shouldn’t be too much of a hassle. Thanks in advance!
Forum examples, I'm not really going to give because I don't have much time to hunt. However, some things take more time to resolve than others. That's just how it works.
Rewards are server-side. That can be addressed easier than mechanics that need rework or redesigns. When you have valuable resources leaking into the game, that's a priority. Same with exploitable situations. That's not exclusive to this game. Most games would consider exploits a high priority.
In fact, there have been many things that have benefited Players that weren't resolved until they became a much larger problem, which is exactly what we're looking at here. It's the opposite of the implication, really.
It has very little to do with what benefits who, and more to do with the overall functioning of the game. The perception may be that they only fix things that help people, but the reality is exploitable situations and Reward leaks don't help anyone. They break the game and force them to come up with an immediate solution. The Gold glitch nearly broke the in-game economy, for example.
They don't want bugs in the game any more than we do. Some things they have more immediate control over others, and some situations force them to come up with a quick solution before damage compounds.
Of course you cannot list any. You making up facts and pretend that everything you say is true 😂
I must say that this has got to be one of the lengthiest posts I've ever read that contains only 1 sentence that is a semi-specific(I'm feeling generous) example that directly relates to the game this forum is intended for, which is MCoC. The remainder of it could be an ambiguous copy/paste statement that could easily describe a bunch of other games on the market.
Come on folks, I get that those of you who want to argue on and on against most topics have your right to do so, and I give respect where its due. But it's comments similar to this one that don't necessarily offer anything substantial to the discussion and tend to cause it to sidetrack into personal argument.
Hence my request the other day for some hearty specifics as to why, what, where, when associated with the thread topic itself.
Some may view this topic of AA, Drax, general champ changes as it relates to RDT's as trivial, but I believe there are many including myself that consider this quite an important area that needs to be addressed by official word from Kabam regarding what their intentions were and are going forward when it comes to providing players a game that is constantly in flux from the periodic changes. To me, being in constant flux is basically the opposite of "being in balance" and that is what has driven me further away from a game which I truly enjoyed in the past. I would like to enjoy playing it again tbh.
So please, open a thread of your own if you'd like to continue discussion relating to ambiguous statements and how to make it work for your debate and I will gladly humor you there.
But I beg of you to please refrain from it here. I will do the same because I'm not innocent of similar comments now and again myself.
Where is it written that Spidey (or Ultron, NC, BW,...) can evade 2 hits at the same time?
Where is it written that Spidey's evade (same with Ultron, NC, BW,...) causes Drax's pushback?
Answer : NOWHERE.
Conclusion : It's a nerf. Do your homework. My turn to laugh.
Lol u want my homework here it is
So it says Mordo can evade all non special attacks now let's look at this hmmm is a double hit an special attack answer no so therefore it DOES say he can evade it so like I said you got an F on your homework do urself a favor and read carefully ROTFLMAO
Dude...
What do you think about X-23's and AA's Heavies? They both by-pass Astral Evade though...
And once again : I don't care about Mordo. He's easy fight. Drax has been nerfed against all evaders.
Sorry for your homework but you failed.
Lol u really don't understand logic
1 All evaders are easy to fight
2 Just because other champs do it doesn't mean it isn't a bug
3 Nothing in that post was wrong which does an double hit fall under a special attack, or all other attacks
4 Kabam already stated when Mordo was first released that Drax was bugged so the decision to rank him because of a bug as kabam called it was on you
5 Doesn't matter how much you argue kabam already said no rank down tickets so whaaaa
6 Don't Tell me no one cares about Mordo that's how this whole thing freaking started because he was and I quote "useless against Mordo now"
What's the long face, what's all the crying for
Didn't you expect it when you opened your door
To the man with the long coat and the long list of victims
Everybody watching knows he's the one keeping score
>from where she sits, everyone stands in judgement
People watching as the curtain falls down
See the lights do a long slow fade...
The show goes on, and the sad-eyed sisters go walking on
Everyone watching all along
The show goes on, as the autumn's coming
And the summer's all gone
Still without you, the show goes on
Some say she's alright, some say she'll never learn
Some rush into things, some stand and wait their turn
I've been here all along standing here all this time
But you never noticed, just let the same tired flames burn
>from where she sits, everyone stands in judgement
People watching as the curtain falls down
See the lights do a long slow fade
The show goes on, and the sad-eyed sisters go walking on
Everyone watching all along
The show goes on, as the autumn's coming
And the summer's all gone
Still without you, the show goes on
Time is passing, slowly passing you by
You better try to find it before it passes you by
As I watch you walking to another cold dawn
And you keep on walking
And they keep on talking
Talking all along
>from where she sits, everyone stands in judgement
People watching as the curtain falls down
See the lights do a long slow fade
The show goes on, and the sad-eyed sisters go walking on
Everyone watching all along
The show goes on, as the autumn's coming
And the summer's all gone
Still without you, the show goes on
Lol u really don't understand logic
1 All evaders are easy to fight
2 Just because other champs do it doesn't mean it isn't a bug
3 Nothing in that post was wrong which does an double hit fall under a special attack, or all other attacks
4 Kabam already stated when Mordo was first released that Drax was bugged so the decision to rank him because of a bug as kabam called it was on you
5 Doesn't matter how much you argue kabam already said no rank down tickets so whaaaa
6 Don't Tell me no one cares about Mordo that's how this whole thing freaking started because he was and I quote "useless against Mordo now"
Now go learn logic before making dumb arguments
1. OK. Please upload a video of you beating OG Ultron in 5.4.6 (I did it, big part with Drax)
2. It wasn't a bug.
3. Kabam Miike clarified that mechanic 2 years ago
4. Not true. They never stated it was a bug
5. Wrong again. They told us no rdt except for big modifications. Drax has been deeply modified. It's a fact.
6. I repeat : even Drax isn't a counter to AE anymore, I don't care about it cause Mordo isn't a big deal.
in 12.0, 3 champs were changed and rank downs were given.
Now every mystic champ and any champ that was ranked solely for diversity has been changed and no rank downs. My math isn't that good but I'm pretty sure these new changes affect a lot more than 3 champs.
Lol u really don't understand logic
1 All evaders are easy to fight
2 Just because other champs do it doesn't mean it isn't a bug
3 Nothing in that post was wrong which does an double hit fall under a special attack, or all other attacks
4 Kabam already stated when Mordo was first released that Drax was bugged so the decision to rank him because of a bug as kabam called it was on you
5 Doesn't matter how much you argue kabam already said no rank down tickets so whaaaa
6 Don't Tell me no one cares about Mordo that's how this whole thing freaking started because he was and I quote "useless against Mordo now"
Now go learn logic before making dumb arguments
1. OK. Please upload a video of you beating OG Ultron in 5.4.6 (I did it, big part with Drax)
2. It wasn't a bug.
3. Kabam Miike clarified that mechanic 2 years ago
4. Not true. They never stated it was a bug
5. Wrong again. They told us no rdt except for big modifications. Drax has been deeply modified. It's a fact.
6. I repeat : even Drax isn't a counter to AE anymore, I don't care about it cause Mordo isn't a big deal.
But the fact is that it was never stated in draxs abilities that he can counter evade, so kabam can claim it as a bug fix and does not have to give out rdts, nor should they
Rank down tickets wont happen again, they opened a box and can't shut, truth is they will change this game when ever they feel like they can make more money. wether its adding silly boosted nodes or making it so you face 10 medusa, imiw, domino. It all increases the bottom line and makes you spend. No matter how they package it. The only thing that makes a different is to use your voice, on social media reach out to apple and contact marvel. No matter what they will change any character that gives the player an upper hand, like drax and aa recently. You need to do more than just talk on forums if you want anything to be done.
You cannot just introduce a super important variable to AW, keep it for months and then just remove it in the name of "meta changes". The meta of the game do change but its dynamic nature is a result of the game itself. Thats why its called META. It refers to itself. By removing diversity you are not shifting/changing meta, you are re-writing the rules and saying "F you!" to all your playerbase (except whales I guess?)
This has to be one of the most scummy moves I have ever seen in the video game industry ever.
With or without rankdown tickets the aw defenses will be flooded with the best defenders (medusa, imiw, classic spidey, dormammu, nightcrawler you name it).
The correct solution to this debacle is to revert the change and keep diversity as a smaller variable to aw score.
seriously though medusa is the best cosmic over all. everyone who has her is going to rank her up. not just for defense. she's dynamic. can be used for both.
I have every god tier defender other than the really new ones already ranked up. But the rankdown tickets would allow us to pull valuable resources from worthless diversity champs. Will this fix the problem, no. But it would sure go along way in showing some goodwill towards us. Just say “we messed up on diversity, here have some of your resources we caused you to waste back.”
But the fact is that it was never stated in draxs abilities that he can counter evade, so kabam can claim it as a bug fix and does not have to give out rdts, nor should they
Nope. The fact is : Drax had a six-hits combo with first double medium and that medium had a better chance to land against evaders.
Second fact : Evaders now evade further against Drax than against any champs and Drax steps back while they're evading.
Its not the whole solution but it eases some of the pain, people can rank down champs they only ranked for diversity and use resources to strenghen their attack to combat the new defensive champs or match them by placing them too.
i agree with this, rdt will help us to level up the properly attackers, but the problem is deeper... i think that diversity must return, and forget this pathetic 24 hours
No, never forget it. We can’t just let it go, I think.
Rank down tickets are not the solution we should be asking for
Sure we can fix some of our roster but I would much rather keep AW diversity to continue to have fun in AW and it not become something I dread because I have to fight the same annoying champion over and over much like with AQ
if there will be rdt, we will see 10 medusas, 10 dormammus and 10 spidermans for Battlegroup
Then adapt. All of these champions can be countered. Heck, Quake alone can beat any of these champs. My alliance leader ranked up his Colosuss to 4/55 for diversity. What is he supposed to do with him now?
I’d disagree with the OP’s assertion. Many of the best defenders (Medusa, dormammu, Magik, mephisto, iceman) have utility elsewhere and would have been ranked. And in general people will rank top defenders regardless diversity.
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Dude...
What do you think about X-23's and AA's Heavies? They both by-pass Astral Evade though...
And once again : I don't care about Mordo. He's easy fight. Drax has been nerfed against all evaders.
Sorry for your homework but you failed.
I must say that this has got to be one of the lengthiest posts I've ever read that contains only 1 sentence that is a semi-specific(I'm feeling generous) example that directly relates to the game this forum is intended for, which is MCoC. The remainder of it could be an ambiguous copy/paste statement that could easily describe a bunch of other games on the market.
Come on folks, I get that those of you who want to argue on and on against most topics have your right to do so, and I give respect where its due. But it's comments similar to this one that don't necessarily offer anything substantial to the discussion and tend to cause it to sidetrack into personal argument.
Hence my request the other day for some hearty specifics as to why, what, where, when associated with the thread topic itself.
Some may view this topic of AA, Drax, general champ changes as it relates to RDT's as trivial, but I believe there are many including myself that consider this quite an important area that needs to be addressed by official word from Kabam regarding what their intentions were and are going forward when it comes to providing players a game that is constantly in flux from the periodic changes. To me, being in constant flux is basically the opposite of "being in balance" and that is what has driven me further away from a game which I truly enjoyed in the past. I would like to enjoy playing it again tbh.
So please, open a thread of your own if you'd like to continue discussion relating to ambiguous statements and how to make it work for your debate and I will gladly humor you there.
But I beg of you to please refrain from it here. I will do the same because I'm not innocent of similar comments now and again myself.
Thank you kabam
Lol u really don't understand logic
1 All evaders are easy to fight
2 Just because other champs do it doesn't mean it isn't a bug
3 Nothing in that post was wrong which does an double hit fall under a special attack, or all other attacks
4 Kabam already stated when Mordo was first released that Drax was bugged so the decision to rank him because of a bug as kabam called it was on you
5 Doesn't matter how much you argue kabam already said no rank down tickets so whaaaa
6 Don't Tell me no one cares about Mordo that's how this whole thing freaking started because he was and I quote "useless against Mordo now"
Now go learn logic before making dumb arguments
Didn't you expect it when you opened your door
To the man with the long coat and the long list of victims
Everybody watching knows he's the one keeping score
>from where she sits, everyone stands in judgement
People watching as the curtain falls down
See the lights do a long slow fade...
The show goes on, and the sad-eyed sisters go walking on
Everyone watching all along
The show goes on, as the autumn's coming
And the summer's all gone
Still without you, the show goes on
Some say she's alright, some say she'll never learn
Some rush into things, some stand and wait their turn
I've been here all along standing here all this time
But you never noticed, just let the same tired flames burn
>from where she sits, everyone stands in judgement
People watching as the curtain falls down
See the lights do a long slow fade
The show goes on, and the sad-eyed sisters go walking on
Everyone watching all along
The show goes on, as the autumn's coming
And the summer's all gone
Still without you, the show goes on
Time is passing, slowly passing you by
You better try to find it before it passes you by
As I watch you walking to another cold dawn
And you keep on walking
And they keep on talking
Talking all along
>from where she sits, everyone stands in judgement
People watching as the curtain falls down
See the lights do a long slow fade
The show goes on, and the sad-eyed sisters go walking on
Everyone watching all along
The show goes on, as the autumn's coming
And the summer's all gone
Still without you, the show goes on
1. OK. Please upload a video of you beating OG Ultron in 5.4.6 (I did it, big part with Drax)
2. It wasn't a bug.
3. Kabam Miike clarified that mechanic 2 years ago
4. Not true. They never stated it was a bug
5. Wrong again. They told us no rdt except for big modifications. Drax has been deeply modified. It's a fact.
6. I repeat : even Drax isn't a counter to AE anymore, I don't care about it cause Mordo isn't a big deal.
Now every mystic champ and any champ that was ranked solely for diversity has been changed and no rank downs. My math isn't that good but I'm pretty sure these new changes affect a lot more than 3 champs.
But the fact is that it was never stated in draxs abilities that he can counter evade, so kabam can claim it as a bug fix and does not have to give out rdts, nor should they
Not 10 of them per bg. This guy is right, the way to win in the proposed setup is to have the most recently released paid defenders.
We have people who would have ranked Medusa, but decided to play within Kabam's system. Now they wish they had ranked Medusa.
EDIT: But as I have said in other posts. I agree with you. RDT do not solve the bigger problem.
This has to be one of the most scummy moves I have ever seen in the video game industry ever.
With or without rankdown tickets the aw defenses will be flooded with the best defenders (medusa, imiw, classic spidey, dormammu, nightcrawler you name it).
The correct solution to this debacle is to revert the change and keep diversity as a smaller variable to aw score.
The only thing that has changed is that with the elimination of diversity, we'll see more of them in every war.
Nope. The fact is : Drax had a six-hits combo with first double medium and that medium had a better chance to land against evaders.
Second fact : Evaders now evade further against Drax than against any champs and Drax steps back while they're evading.
That. Is. Called. A. Nerf.
No, never forget it. We can’t just let it go, I think.
Sure we can fix some of our roster but I would much rather keep AW diversity to continue to have fun in AW and it not become something I dread because I have to fight the same annoying champion over and over much like with AQ
Then adapt. All of these champions can be countered. Heck, Quake alone can beat any of these champs. My alliance leader ranked up his Colosuss to 4/55 for diversity. What is he supposed to do with him now?