We don't even know how much of what is in each Package yet, and people are reacting.
Why do you consistently ignore the fact that we were unable to play every part of the game, and we have to choose only one area that we wish to be compensated for?
There's also a Universal Package that has something for every area.
And if I thought that would even remotely cover the problems I had due to overheating and downtime then I would not be complaining. However after 3 1/2 years of dealing with kabam I know what they’re like. There is no way a universal package will have anywhere near what losses I had from overheating.
If I’m wrong, you and kabam can both expect a full apology. I’ll even gift you some energy refills, I’m so confident it will not cover the issues we had.
Is there anything they can give at this point that will? Somehow I feel like emotional distress is factoring in.
Let me rephrase it. What would cover it for you?
So personally attacking people by saying they’re in emotional distress over not being adequately compensated for all areas of the game being affected. With no possibility other than phone damage should they try to play. A new low, even for you at least argue a position normally, even if it is intellectually or ethically wrong. I will reiterate what someone said earlier in that you’re not being contrarian or pragmatic, just trolling or derailing genuine discussion most of the time and should really reflect on that and stop.
We don't even know how much of what is in each Package yet, and people are reacting.
Why do you consistently ignore the fact that we were unable to play every part of the game, and we have to choose only one area that we wish to be compensated for?
There's also a Universal Package that has something for every area.
And if I thought that would even remotely cover the problems I had due to overheating and downtime then I would not be complaining. However after 3 1/2 years of dealing with kabam I know what they’re like. There is no way a universal package will have anywhere near what losses I had from overheating.
If I’m wrong, you and kabam can both expect a full apology. I’ll even gift you some energy refills, I’m so confident it will not cover the issues we had.
Is there anything they can give at this point that will? Somehow I feel like emotional distress is factoring in.
Let me rephrase it. What would cover it for you?
So personally attacking people by saying they’re in emotional distress over not being adequately compensated for all areas of the game being affected. With no possibility other than phone damage should they try to play. A new low, even for you at least argue a position normally, even if it is intellectually or ethically wrong. I will reiterate what someone said earlier in that you’re not being contrarian or pragmatic, just trolling or derailing genuine discussion most of the time and should really reflect on that and stop.
That's not a personal attack at all. I'm saying people may be factoring in emotional distress. Meaning, the frustration is adding to the reasoning.
TL:DR - It's difficult to come to something adequate when the anger is high.
For the record, I don't have anything invested in what people get for it. I could care less if people get all they ask for. There's also a logical part of me that has to consider things like the Arena and War. Both are Competitions, and it gets tricky when factoring them in because you can't claim being owed something that has to be competed for. War for example, you can't factor in a Win or Loss when those depend on performance. You can't guarantee a Win or Loss if the game was running properly. Same with the Arenas. They're based on what we put up. It may be possible to see what someone usually averages, but that all depends if they choose to run it or not, so once again, no guarantees. AQ is a bit different, and that's a possibility, because it is based on long-term, consistent runs.
I get that people are upset and I'm not trying to agitate anyone. I'm just saying that it's not helping to go into histrionics, and we don't have all the information to add up what's being given. It all has a value. It's really difficult to give every Player what they always run, because it's too specific, and it could take a long time to calculate individually and dole that out. Could they? Technically, yes. I'm pretty sure. All I'm trying to do is help people think logically so they can communicate more clearly. Makes no difference to me what people get. I'm not bothered by it. I'm trying to help clarify thoughts is all. I'm not trolling at all. People are just upset and I'm trying to be rational with them.
As for devices, that's a whole other bag of worms, and I'm not really going to say much because I also think User Liability factors into that, and that would just start an argument, so I'll avoid that one.
We don't even know how much of what is in each Package yet, and people are reacting.
Why do you consistently ignore the fact that we were unable to play every part of the game, and we have to choose only one area that we wish to be compensated for?
There's also a Universal Package that has something for every area.
And if I thought that would even remotely cover the problems I had due to overheating and downtime then I would not be complaining. However after 3 1/2 years of dealing with kabam I know what they’re like. There is no way a universal package will have anywhere near what losses I had from overheating.
If I’m wrong, you and kabam can both expect a full apology. I’ll even gift you some energy refills, I’m so confident it will not cover the issues we had.
Is there anything they can give at this point that will? Somehow I feel like emotional distress is factoring in.
Let me rephrase it. What would cover it for you?
So personally attacking people by saying they’re in emotional distress over not being adequately compensated for all areas of the game being affected. With no possibility other than phone damage should they try to play. A new low, even for you at least argue a position normally, even if it is intellectually or ethically wrong. I will reiterate what someone said earlier in that you’re not being contrarian or pragmatic, just trolling or derailing genuine discussion most of the time and should really reflect on that and stop.
That's not a personal attack at all. I'm saying people may be factoring in emotional distress. Meaning, the frustration is adding to the reasoning.
TL:DR - It's difficult to come to something adequate when the anger is high.
For the record, I don't have anything invested in what people get for it. I could care less if people get all they ask for. There's also a logical part of me that has to consider things like the Arena and War. Both are Competitions, and it gets tricky when factoring them in because you can't claim being owed something that has to be competed for. War for example, you can't factor in a Win or Lose when those depend on performance. You can't guarantee a Win or Lose if the game was running properly. Same with the Arenas. They're based on what we put up. It may be possible to see what someone usually averages, but that all depends if they choose to run it or not, so once again, no guarantees. AQ is a bit different, and that's a possibility, because it is based on long-term, consistent runs.
I get that people are upset and I'm not trying to agitate anyone. I'm just saying that it's not helping to go into histrionics, and we don't have all the information to add up what's being given. It all has a value. It's really difficult to give every Player what they always run, because it's too specific, and it could take a long time to calculate individually and dole that out. All I'm trying to do is help people think logically so they can communicate more clearly. Makes no difference to me what people get. I'm not bothered by it. I'm trying to help clarify thoughts is all.
We don't even know how much of what is in each Package yet, and people are reacting.
Why do you consistently ignore the fact that we were unable to play every part of the game, and we have to choose only one area that we wish to be compensated for?
There's also a Universal Package that has something for every area.
And if I thought that would even remotely cover the problems I had due to overheating and downtime then I would not be complaining. However after 3 1/2 years of dealing with kabam I know what they’re like. There is no way a universal package will have anywhere near what losses I had from overheating.
If I’m wrong, you and kabam can both expect a full apology. I’ll even gift you some energy refills, I’m so confident it will not cover the issues we had.
Is there anything they can give at this point that will? Somehow I feel like emotional distress is factoring in.
Let me rephrase it. What would cover it for you?
So personally attacking people by saying they’re in emotional distress over not being adequately compensated for all areas of the game being affected. With no possibility other than phone damage should they try to play. A new low, even for you at least argue a position normally, even if it is intellectually or ethically wrong. I will reiterate what someone said earlier in that you’re not being contrarian or pragmatic, just trolling or derailing genuine discussion most of the time and should really reflect on that and stop.
That's not a personal attack at all. I'm saying people may be factoring in emotional distress. Meaning, the frustration is adding to the reasoning.
TL:DR - It's difficult to come to something adequate when the anger is high.
For the record, I don't have anything invested in what people get for it. I could care less if people get all they ask for. There's also a logical part of me that has to consider things like the Arena and War. Both are Competitions, and it gets tricky when factoring them in because you can't claim being owed something that has to be competed for. War for example, you can't factor in a Win or Lose when those depend on performance. You can't guarantee a Win or Lose if the game was running properly. Same with the Arenas. They're based on what we put up. It may be possible to see what someone usually averages, but that all depends if they choose to run it or not, so once again, no guarantees. AQ is a bit different, and that's a possibility, because it is based on long-term, consistent runs.
I get that people are upset and I'm not trying to agitate anyone. I'm just saying that it's not helping to go into histrionics, and we don't have all the information to add up what's being given. It all has a value. It's really difficult to give every Player what they always run, because it's too specific, and it could take a long time to calculate individually and dole that out. All I'm trying to do is help people think logically so they can communicate more clearly. Makes no difference to me what people get. I'm not bothered by it. I'm trying to help clarify thoughts is all.
We don't even know how much of what is in each Package yet, and people are reacting.
Why do you consistently ignore the fact that we were unable to play every part of the game, and we have to choose only one area that we wish to be compensated for?
There's also a Universal Package that has something for every area.
And if I thought that would even remotely cover the problems I had due to overheating and downtime then I would not be complaining. However after 3 1/2 years of dealing with kabam I know what they’re like. There is no way a universal package will have anywhere near what losses I had from overheating.
If I’m wrong, you and kabam can both expect a full apology. I’ll even gift you some energy refills, I’m so confident it will not cover the issues we had.
Is there anything they can give at this point that will? Somehow I feel like emotional distress is factoring in.
Let me rephrase it. What would cover it for you?
So personally attacking people by saying they’re in emotional distress over not being adequately compensated for all areas of the game being affected. With no possibility other than phone damage should they try to play. A new low, even for you at least argue a position normally, even if it is intellectually or ethically wrong. I will reiterate what someone said earlier in that you’re not being contrarian or pragmatic, just trolling or derailing genuine discussion most of the time and should really reflect on that and stop.
That's not a personal attack at all. I'm saying people may be factoring in emotional distress. Meaning, the frustration is adding to the reasoning.
TL:DR - It's difficult to come to something adequate when the anger is
We don't even know how much of what is in each Package yet, and people are reacting.
Why do you consistently ignore the fact that we were unable to play every part of the game, and we have to choose only one area that we wish to be compensated for?
There's also a Universal Package that has something for every area.
And if I thought that would even remotely cover the problems I had due to overheating and downtime then I would not be complaining. However after 3 1/2 years of dealing with kabam I know what they’re like. There is no way a universal package will have anywhere near what losses I had from overheating.
If I’m wrong, you and kabam can both expect a full apology. I’ll even gift you some energy refills, I’m so confident it will not cover the issues we had.
Is there anything they can give at this point that will? Somehow I feel like emotional distress is factoring in.
Let me rephrase it. What would cover it for you?
So personally attacking people by saying they’re in emotional distress over not being adequately compensated for all areas of the game being affected. With no possibility other than phone damage should they try to play. A new low, even for you at least argue a position normally, even if it is intellectually or ethically wrong. I will reiterate what someone said earlier in that you’re not being contrarian or pragmatic, just trolling or derailing genuine discussion most of the time and should really reflect on that and stop.
That's not a personal attack at all. I'm saying people may be factoring in emotional distress. Meaning, the frustration is adding to the reasoning.
TL:DR - It's difficult to come to something adequate when the anger is high.
For the record, I don't have anything invested in what people get for it. I could care less if people get all they ask for. There's also a logical part of me that has to consider things like the Arena and War. Both are Competitions, and it gets tricky when factoring them in because you can't claim being owed something that has to be competed for. War for example, you can't factor in a Win or Loss when those depend on performance. You can't guarantee a Win or Loss if the game was running properly. Same with the Arenas. They're based on what we put up. It may be possible to see what someone usually averages, but that all depends if they choose to run it or not, so once again, no guarantees. AQ is a bit different, and that's a possibility, because it is based on long-term, consistent runs.
I get that people are upset and I'm not trying to agitate anyone. I'm just saying that it's not helping to go into histrionics, and we don't have all the information to add up what's being given. It all has a value. It's really difficult to give every Player what they always run, because it's too specific, and it could take a long time to calculate individually and dole that out. Could they? Technically, yes. I'm pretty sure. All I'm trying to do is help people think logically so they can communicate more clearly. Makes no difference to me what people get. I'm not bothered by it. I'm trying to help clarify thoughts is all. I'm not trolling at all. People are just upset and I'm trying to be rational with them.
As for devices, that's a whole other bag of worms, and I'm not really going to say much because I also think User Liability factors into that, and that would just start an argument, so I'll avoid that one.
Ok let me make this simple for you since you ignored it earlier. Kabam has internal systems to track how many players are in a given arena, and what the normal scores are for each percentage. Calculate what the drop off was while overheating was happening, pick the middle area payout for each arena and distribute that to all players. For AW give and equal amount of shards for how many wars happened split between a 50/50 win/loss in their current tier. Yes people who don’t play arena get more than they ever would, and the grinders get less. Yes people who would have won all their wars get less, and people who didn’t play or would lose get more. This is compromise which we didn’t get any of, and even items relevant to what was lost have to be chosen between.
We deserve a compensation comparable or better than 12.0
The game has to go forward not backwards, fraud, piloting are rampant and the game hardware and mechanics we're completely diminished.
If you take advantage of spawning revives that's an exploit, but if you buy fraudulent units that's ok.
WE ARE DUE COMPENSATION FOR A LOT OF THINGS
Not just the latest issues, this game should have never gone through 12.0 and now they had the chance to give back to us and show appreciation.
All they have done is talk down to us, patronize us and treat us like condescending parents.
I'll tell you what, we've show you that YOU ARE WRONG, that we are NOT HAPPY and that we DO NOT FEEL APPRECIATED.
PERIOD.
And what you do is spin it around to make us the villains and the rest of your acolytes praise everything you do. Another Disney franchise that used the same tactic is now 50 million in the red because they fans turned their backs against them.
CAUTIONARY TALE: Don't turn your backs on the fans, listen and appreciate us, compensate us NOW and don't regret it later. Or you'll be richest company in the cinder.
We deserve a compensation comparable or better than 12.0
The game has to go forward not backwards, fraud, piloting are rampant and the game hardware and mechanics we're completely diminished.
If you take advantage of spawning revives that's an exploit, but if you buy fraudulent units that's ok.
WE ARE DUE COMPENSATION FOR A LOT OF THINGS
Not just the latest issues, this game should have never gone through 12.0 and now they had the chance to give back to us and show appreciation.
All they have done is talk down to us, patronize us and treat us like condescending parents.
I'll tell you what, we've show you that YOU ARE WRONG, that we are NOT HAPPY and that we DO NOT FEEL APPRECIATED.
PERIOD.
And what you do is spin it around to make us the villains and the rest of your acolytes praise everything you do. Another Disney franchise that used the same tactic is now 50 million in the red because they fans turned their backs against them.
CAUTIONARY TALE: Don't turn your backs on the fans, listen and appreciate us, compensate us NOW and don't regret it later. Or you'll be richest company in the cinder.
This is 100% correct
Everyone needs to read this - however it wont last long as it will be deleted along with any other post that points out the truth and all that is wrong with this game
We are asking you to reconsider this kabam, as spenders, players, and loyal fans of your game please reconsider this package or let us know the full details of these "gifts" if it has high units and lots of other things we may be missing, let us know. And please stop making a pattern of releasing bad news friday and not responding until the next week to let us know whats going on.
Well maybe the games own success is it's own worst enemy. So many emergency maintenances, so much new content, so many bugs and glitches which continue to plague the game. It could be a case of "there's simply too many players" and the system can't keep up so this is a creative way to get people to quit.
I really don't understand why it's so hard for Kabam to just compensate us fully and properly. People were literally unable to play the game properly for over a month and Kabam Miike acts like we are moaning over something small like a visual glitch.
Both myself and a lot of people are already on the verge of leaving (the bugs and this month's event quest don't help this) and if the compensation doesn't get increased I will definitely be putting the game down for a considerable amount of time.
The issues this game has experienced since 19.0 have been worse than 12.0 by far in my opinion. We should at very least be compensated the same
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That's not a personal attack at all. I'm saying people may be factoring in emotional distress. Meaning, the frustration is adding to the reasoning.
TL:DR - It's difficult to come to something adequate when the anger is high.
For the record, I don't have anything invested in what people get for it. I could care less if people get all they ask for. There's also a logical part of me that has to consider things like the Arena and War. Both are Competitions, and it gets tricky when factoring them in because you can't claim being owed something that has to be competed for. War for example, you can't factor in a Win or Loss when those depend on performance. You can't guarantee a Win or Loss if the game was running properly. Same with the Arenas. They're based on what we put up. It may be possible to see what someone usually averages, but that all depends if they choose to run it or not, so once again, no guarantees. AQ is a bit different, and that's a possibility, because it is based on long-term, consistent runs.
I get that people are upset and I'm not trying to agitate anyone. I'm just saying that it's not helping to go into histrionics, and we don't have all the information to add up what's being given. It all has a value. It's really difficult to give every Player what they always run, because it's too specific, and it could take a long time to calculate individually and dole that out. Could they? Technically, yes. I'm pretty sure. All I'm trying to do is help people think logically so they can communicate more clearly. Makes no difference to me what people get. I'm not bothered by it. I'm trying to help clarify thoughts is all. I'm not trolling at all. People are just upset and I'm trying to be rational with them.
As for devices, that's a whole other bag of worms, and I'm not really going to say much because I also think User Liability factors into that, and that would just start an argument, so I'll avoid that one.
When kabam sees we think we matter
SO. MANY.WORDS
Complex situations require more words.
Couldnt agree more
This is 100% correct
Everyone needs to read this - however it wont last long as it will be deleted along with any other post that points out the truth and all that is wrong with this game
If you ignore things long enough they go away lol
Both myself and a lot of people are already on the verge of leaving (the bugs and this month's event quest don't help this) and if the compensation doesn't get increased I will definitely be putting the game down for a considerable amount of time.
The issues this game has experienced since 19.0 have been worse than 12.0 by far in my opinion. We should at very least be compensated the same