Hold up, there's a lot of straight up BS going on around here.
@Draco2199 - Don't make me laugh. You couldn't survive in an elite alliance for one hour. It's not all about spending, you actually need to be skilled to make it - even though we all know the top 3 have AW pilots lol. Map 6 multiple days a week when starting prestige is probably higher than your prestige on day 3 is not something you can just pay to finish. Stop with the nonsense.
@Grub - I'm not in the top 3 but I'm very close. My ally doesn't have to worry at all about diversity. Still, just coz people like you and me worked harder and spent money doesn't mean the win should be automatic, which it is. We will probably benefit in terms of rewards, but AW is just not fun at all anymore. There should be some skill to it. Now, there is none.
I've been in a top 10 alliance until I semi retired a few months ago. I'm one of the more skilled players in the game and I've spent more than you probably paid for your house on this game. I've run Map 6x5 without using items so please stop with your nonsense. You don't know me I was a big time whale in the game until my semi retirement. But thanks for assuming I don't know what I'm talking about, I actually really do and I know all the "exploits we used to use" which didn't make the game fun. The truth is you can't win with skill anymore against top alliances. Thats the problem. And yes Top Alliances all account share with AQ and AW but Kabam won't do anything about it and we all know that. This has been known for years and Kabam was suppose to look into it but turned a blind eye. Not sure why.
First off, I don't believe you for a second. If you ever were in an elite ally you would know there is no one in the top that isn't skilled.
Secondly, your entire attitude tells me you're a BS artist.]
Third, LOL. You know nothing about my life. If you had spent as much as I paid for my house in this game, there would be a statue of you in the Kabam HQ, and a champ named after you.
There probably is.
That's funny, you must be the only person ever to spend millions on a game and still complain that $500 offers are too expensive....
Like I said, BS artist.
How so? Just because I spend money doesn't mean I can't disagree with pricing lol.....You must be right lol. Do you even have an r4 5* lol.
Hold up, there's a lot of straight up BS going on around here.
@Draco2199 - Don't make me laugh. You couldn't survive in an elite alliance for one hour. It's not all about spending, you actually need to be skilled to make it - even though we all know the top 3 have AW pilots lol. Map 6 multiple days a week when starting prestige is probably higher than your prestige on day 3 is not something you can just pay to finish. Stop with the nonsense.
@Grub - I'm not in the top 3 but I'm very close. My ally doesn't have to worry at all about diversity. Still, just coz people like you and me worked harder and spent money doesn't mean the win should be automatic, which it is. We will probably benefit in terms of rewards, but AW is just not fun at all anymore. There should be some skill to it. Now, there is none.
I've been in a top 10 alliance until I semi retired a few months ago. I'm one of the more skilled players in the game and I've spent more than you probably paid for your house on this game. I've run Map 6x5 without using items so please stop with your nonsense. You don't know me I was a big time whale in the game until my semi retirement. But thanks for assuming I don't know what I'm talking about, I actually really do and I know all the "exploits we used to use" which didn't make the game fun. The truth is you can't win with skill anymore against top alliances. Thats the problem. And yes Top Alliances all account share with AQ and AW but Kabam won't do anything about it and we all know that. This has been known for years and Kabam was suppose to look into it but turned a blind eye. Not sure why.
First off, I don't believe you for a second. If you ever were in an elite ally you would know there is no one in the top that isn't skilled.
Secondly, your entire attitude tells me you're a BS artist.]
Third, LOL. You know nothing about my life. If you had spent as much as I paid for my house in this game, there would be a statue of you in the Kabam HQ, and a champ named after you.
There probably is.
That's funny, you must be the only person ever to spend millions on a game and still complain that $500 offers are too expensive....
Like I said, BS artist.
How so? Just because I spend money doesn't mean I can't disagree with pricing lol.....You must be right lol. Do you even have an r4 5* lol.
Hold up, there's a lot of straight up BS going on around here.
@Draco2199 - Don't make me laugh. You couldn't survive in an elite alliance for one hour. It's not all about spending, you actually need to be skilled to make it - even though we all know the top 3 have AW pilots lol. Map 6 multiple days a week when starting prestige is probably higher than your prestige on day 3 is not something you can just pay to finish. Stop with the nonsense.
@Grub - I'm not in the top 3 but I'm very close. My ally doesn't have to worry at all about diversity. Still, just coz people like you and me worked harder and spent money doesn't mean the win should be automatic, which it is. We will probably benefit in terms of rewards, but AW is just not fun at all anymore. There should be some skill to it. Now, there is none.
I've been in a top 10 alliance until I semi retired a few months ago. I'm one of the more skilled players in the game and I've spent more than you probably paid for your house on this game. I've run Map 6x5 without using items so please stop with your nonsense. You don't know me I was a big time whale in the game until my semi retirement. But thanks for assuming I don't know what I'm talking about, I actually really do and I know all the "exploits we used to use" which didn't make the game fun. The truth is you can't win with skill anymore against top alliances. Thats the problem. And yes Top Alliances all account share with AQ and AW but Kabam won't do anything about it and we all know that. This has been known for years and Kabam was suppose to look into it but turned a blind eye. Not sure why.
First off, I don't believe you for a second. If you ever were in an elite ally you would know there is no one in the top that isn't skilled.
Secondly, your entire attitude tells me you're a BS artist.]
Third, LOL. You know nothing about my life. If you had spent as much as I paid for my house in this game, there would be a statue of you in the Kabam HQ, and a champ named after you.
There probably is.
That's funny, you must be the only person ever to spend millions on a game and still complain that $500 offers are too expensive....
Like I said, BS artist.
How so? Just because I spend money doesn't mean I can't disagree with pricing lol.....You must be right lol. Do you even have an r4 5* lol.
Hold up, there's a lot of straight up BS going on around here.
@Draco2199 - Don't make me laugh. You couldn't survive in an elite alliance for one hour. It's not all about spending, you actually need to be skilled to make it - even though we all know the top 3 have AW pilots lol. Map 6 multiple days a week when starting prestige is probably higher than your prestige on day 3 is not something you can just pay to finish. Stop with the nonsense.
@Grub - I'm not in the top 3 but I'm very close. My ally doesn't have to worry at all about diversity. Still, just coz people like you and me worked harder and spent money doesn't mean the win should be automatic, which it is. We will probably benefit in terms of rewards, but AW is just not fun at all anymore. There should be some skill to it. Now, there is none.
I've been in a top 10 alliance until I semi retired a few months ago. I'm one of the more skilled players in the game and I've spent more than you probably paid for your house on this game. I've run Map 6x5 without using items so please stop with your nonsense. You don't know me I was a big time whale in the game until my semi retirement. But thanks for assuming I don't know what I'm talking about, I actually really do and I know all the "exploits we used to use" which didn't make the game fun. The truth is you can't win with skill anymore against top alliances. Thats the problem. And yes Top Alliances all account share with AQ and AW but Kabam won't do anything about it and we all know that. This has been known for years and Kabam was suppose to look into it but turned a blind eye. Not sure why.
First off, I don't believe you for a second. If you ever were in an elite ally you would know there is no one in the top that isn't skilled.
Secondly, your entire attitude tells me you're a BS artist.]
Third, LOL. You know nothing about my life. If you had spent as much as I paid for my house in this game, there would be a statue of you in the Kabam HQ, and a champ named after you.
There probably is.
That's funny, you must be the only person ever to spend millions on a game and still complain that $500 offers are too expensive....
Like I said, BS artist.
How so? Just because I spend money doesn't mean I can't disagree with pricing lol.....You must be right lol. Do you even have an r4 5* lol.
Hold up, there's a lot of straight up BS going on around here.
@Draco2199 - Don't make me laugh. You couldn't survive in an elite alliance for one hour. It's not all about spending, you actually need to be skilled to make it - even though we all know the top 3 have AW pilots lol. Map 6 multiple days a week when starting prestige is probably higher than your prestige on day 3 is not something you can just pay to finish. Stop with the nonsense.
@Grub - I'm not in the top 3 but I'm very close. My ally doesn't have to worry at all about diversity. Still, just coz people like you and me worked harder and spent money doesn't mean the win should be automatic, which it is. We will probably benefit in terms of rewards, but AW is just not fun at all anymore. There should be some skill to it. Now, there is none.
I've been in a top 10 alliance until I semi retired a few months ago. I'm one of the more skilled players in the game and I've spent more than you probably paid for your house on this game. I've run Map 6x5 without using items so please stop with your nonsense. You don't know me I was a big time whale in the game until my semi retirement. But thanks for assuming I don't know what I'm talking about, I actually really do and I know all the "exploits we used to use" which didn't make the game fun. The truth is you can't win with skill anymore against top alliances. Thats the problem. And yes Top Alliances all account share with AQ and AW but Kabam won't do anything about it and we all know that. This has been known for years and Kabam was suppose to look into it but turned a blind eye. Not sure why.
First off, I don't believe you for a second. If you ever were in an elite ally you would know there is no one in the top that isn't skilled.
Secondly, your entire attitude tells me you're a BS artist.]
Third, LOL. You know nothing about my life. If you had spent as much as I paid for my house in this game, there would be a statue of you in the Kabam HQ, and a champ named after you.
There probably is.
That's funny, you must be the only person ever to spend millions on a game and still complain that $500 offers are too expensive....
Like I said, BS artist.
How so? Just because I spend money doesn't mean I can't disagree with pricing lol.....You must be right lol. Do you even have an r4 5* lol.
Hold up, there's a lot of straight up BS going on around here.
@Draco2199 - Don't make me laugh. You couldn't survive in an elite alliance for one hour. It's not all about spending, you actually need to be skilled to make it - even though we all know the top 3 have AW pilots lol. Map 6 multiple days a week when starting prestige is probably higher than your prestige on day 3 is not something you can just pay to finish. Stop with the nonsense.
@Grub - I'm not in the top 3 but I'm very close. My ally doesn't have to worry at all about diversity. Still, just coz people like you and me worked harder and spent money doesn't mean the win should be automatic, which it is. We will probably benefit in terms of rewards, but AW is just not fun at all anymore. There should be some skill to it. Now, there is none.
I've been in a top 10 alliance until I semi retired a few months ago. I'm one of the more skilled players in the game and I've spent more than you probably paid for your house on this game. I've run Map 6x5 without using items so please stop with your nonsense. You don't know me I was a big time whale in the game until my semi retirement. But thanks for assuming I don't know what I'm talking about, I actually really do and I know all the "exploits we used to use" which didn't make the game fun. The truth is you can't win with skill anymore against top alliances. Thats the problem. And yes Top Alliances all account share with AQ and AW but Kabam won't do anything about it and we all know that. This has been known for years and Kabam was suppose to look into it but turned a blind eye. Not sure why.
First off, I don't believe you for a second. If you ever were in an elite ally you would know there is no one in the top that isn't skilled.
Secondly, your entire attitude tells me you're a BS artist.]
Third, LOL. You know nothing about my life. If you had spent as much as I paid for my house in this game, there would be a statue of you in the Kabam HQ, and a champ named after you.
There probably is.
That's funny, you must be the only person ever to spend millions on a game and still complain that $500 offers are too expensive....
Like I said, BS artist.
How so? Just because I spend money doesn't mean I can't disagree with pricing lol.....You must be right lol. Do you even have an r4 5* lol.
Hold up, there's a lot of straight up BS going on around here.
@Draco2199 - Don't make me laugh. You couldn't survive in an elite alliance for one hour. It's not all about spending, you actually need to be skilled to make it - even though we all know the top 3 have AW pilots lol. Map 6 multiple days a week when starting prestige is probably higher than your prestige on day 3 is not something you can just pay to finish. Stop with the nonsense.
@Grub - I'm not in the top 3 but I'm very close. My ally doesn't have to worry at all about diversity. Still, just coz people like you and me worked harder and spent money doesn't mean the win should be automatic, which it is. We will probably benefit in terms of rewards, but AW is just not fun at all anymore. There should be some skill to it. Now, there is none.
I've been in a top 10 alliance until I semi retired a few months ago. I'm one of the more skilled players in the game and I've spent more than you probably paid for your house on this game. I've run Map 6x5 without using items so please stop with your nonsense. You don't know me I was a big time whale in the game until my semi retirement. But thanks for assuming I don't know what I'm talking about, I actually really do and I know all the "exploits we used to use" which didn't make the game fun. The truth is you can't win with skill anymore against top alliances. Thats the problem. And yes Top Alliances all account share with AQ and AW but Kabam won't do anything about it and we all know that. This has been known for years and Kabam was suppose to look into it but turned a blind eye. Not sure why.
First off, I don't believe you for a second. If you ever were in an elite ally you would know there is no one in the top that isn't skilled.
Secondly, your entire attitude tells me you're a BS artist.]
Third, LOL. You know nothing about my life. If you had spent as much as I paid for my house in this game, there would be a statue of you in the Kabam HQ, and a champ named after you.
There probably is.
That's funny, you must be the only person ever to spend millions on a game and still complain that $500 offers are too expensive....
Like I said, BS artist.
How so? Just because I spend money doesn't mean I can't disagree with pricing lol.....You must be right lol. Do you even have an r4 5* lol.
Hold up, there's a lot of straight up BS going on around here.
@Draco2199 - Don't make me laugh. You couldn't survive in an elite alliance for one hour. It's not all about spending, you actually need to be skilled to make it - even though we all know the top 3 have AW pilots lol. Map 6 multiple days a week when starting prestige is probably higher than your prestige on day 3 is not something you can just pay to finish. Stop with the nonsense.
@Grub - I'm not in the top 3 but I'm very close. My ally doesn't have to worry at all about diversity. Still, just coz people like you and me worked harder and spent money doesn't mean the win should be automatic, which it is. We will probably benefit in terms of rewards, but AW is just not fun at all anymore. There should be some skill to it. Now, there is none.
I've been in a top 10 alliance until I semi retired a few months ago. I'm one of the more skilled players in the game and I've spent more than you probably paid for your house on this game. I've run Map 6x5 without using items so please stop with your nonsense. You don't know me I was a big time whale in the game until my semi retirement. But thanks for assuming I don't know what I'm talking about, I actually really do and I know all the "exploits we used to use" which didn't make the game fun. The truth is you can't win with skill anymore against top alliances. Thats the problem. And yes Top Alliances all account share with AQ and AW but Kabam won't do anything about it and we all know that. This has been known for years and Kabam was suppose to look into it but turned a blind eye. Not sure why.
First off, I don't believe you for a second. If you ever were in an elite ally you would know there is no one in the top that isn't skilled.
Secondly, your entire attitude tells me you're a BS artist.]
Third, LOL. You know nothing about my life. If you had spent as much as I paid for my house in this game, there would be a statue of you in the Kabam HQ, and a champ named after you.
There probably is.
That's funny, you must be the only person ever to spend millions on a game and still complain that $500 offers are too expensive....
Like I said, BS artist.
How so? Just because I spend money doesn't mean I can't disagree with pricing lol.....You must be right lol. Do you even have an r4 5* lol.
Okay, what's you in game profile?
Whats yours?
Same as my name in the forums.
Umm I know lol
Okay, your turn
Same
No users found...try again
Seriously I'm not wasting my time on a 200K player you clearly just started don't even have an r4 5* like I said. You have one r5 4* so you can't compare or even relate to being in a top 10 alliance. Thanks for the input though.
Hold up, there's a lot of straight up BS going on around here.
@Draco2199 - Don't make me laugh. You couldn't survive in an elite alliance for one hour. It's not all about spending, you actually need to be skilled to make it - even though we all know the top 3 have AW pilots lol. Map 6 multiple days a week when starting prestige is probably higher than your prestige on day 3 is not something you can just pay to finish. Stop with the nonsense.
@Grub - I'm not in the top 3 but I'm very close. My ally doesn't have to worry at all about diversity. Still, just coz people like you and me worked harder and spent money doesn't mean the win should be automatic, which it is. We will probably benefit in terms of rewards, but AW is just not fun at all anymore. There should be some skill to it. Now, there is none.
I've been in a top 10 alliance until I semi retired a few months ago. I'm one of the more skilled players in the game and I've spent more than you probably paid for your house on this game. I've run Map 6x5 without using items so please stop with your nonsense. You don't know me I was a big time whale in the game until my semi retirement. But thanks for assuming I don't know what I'm talking about, I actually really do and I know all the "exploits we used to use" which didn't make the game fun. The truth is you can't win with skill anymore against top alliances. Thats the problem. And yes Top Alliances all account share with AQ and AW but Kabam won't do anything about it and we all know that. This has been known for years and Kabam was suppose to look into it but turned a blind eye. Not sure why.
First off, I don't believe you for a second. If you ever were in an elite ally you would know there is no one in the top that isn't skilled.
Secondly, your entire attitude tells me you're a BS artist.]
Third, LOL. You know nothing about my life. If you had spent as much as I paid for my house in this game, there would be a statue of you in the Kabam HQ, and a champ named after you.
There probably is.
That's funny, you must be the only person ever to spend millions on a game and still complain that $500 offers are too expensive....
Like I said, BS artist.
How so? Just because I spend money doesn't mean I can't disagree with pricing lol.....You must be right lol. Do you even have an r4 5* lol.
Okay, what's you in game profile?
Whats yours?
Same as my name in the forums.
Umm I know lol
Okay, your turn
Same
No users found...try again
Seriously I'm not wasting my time on a 200K player you clearly just started don't even have an r4 5* like I said. You have one r5 4* so you can't compare or even relate to being in a top 10 alliance. Thanks for the input though.
See, I knew it. You're a phony. Now check out my primary account...XNickRiv!
Hold up, there's a lot of straight up BS going on around here.
@Draco2199 - Don't make me laugh. You couldn't survive in an elite alliance for one hour. It's not all about spending, you actually need to be skilled to make it - even though we all know the top 3 have AW pilots lol. Map 6 multiple days a week when starting prestige is probably higher than your prestige on day 3 is not something you can just pay to finish. Stop with the nonsense.
@Grub - I'm not in the top 3 but I'm very close. My ally doesn't have to worry at all about diversity. Still, just coz people like you and me worked harder and spent money doesn't mean the win should be automatic, which it is. We will probably benefit in terms of rewards, but AW is just not fun at all anymore. There should be some skill to it. Now, there is none.
I've been in a top 10 alliance until I semi retired a few months ago. I'm one of the more skilled players in the game and I've spent more than you probably paid for your house on this game. I've run Map 6x5 without using items so please stop with your nonsense. You don't know me I was a big time whale in the game until my semi retirement. But thanks for assuming I don't know what I'm talking about, I actually really do and I know all the "exploits we used to use" which didn't make the game fun. The truth is you can't win with skill anymore against top alliances. Thats the problem. And yes Top Alliances all account share with AQ and AW but Kabam won't do anything about it and we all know that. This has been known for years and Kabam was suppose to look into it but turned a blind eye. Not sure why.
First off, I don't believe you for a second. If you ever were in an elite ally you would know there is no one in the top that isn't skilled.
Secondly, your entire attitude tells me you're a BS artist.]
Third, LOL. You know nothing about my life. If you had spent as much as I paid for my house in this game, there would be a statue of you in the Kabam HQ, and a champ named after you.
There probably is.
That's funny, you must be the only person ever to spend millions on a game and still complain that $500 offers are too expensive....
Like I said, BS artist.
How so? Just because I spend money doesn't mean I can't disagree with pricing lol.....You must be right lol. Do you even have an r4 5* lol.
Okay, what's you in game profile?
Whats yours?
Same as my name in the forums.
Umm I know lol
Okay, your turn
Same
No users found...try again
Seriously I'm not wasting my time on a 200K player you clearly just started don't even have an r4 5* like I said. You have one r5 4* so you can't compare or even relate to being in a top 10 alliance. Thanks for the input though.
See, I knew it. You're a phony. Now check out my primary account...XNickRiv!
495K Ok so you've been playing for a year with 2 r4s, congrats still can't relate to top 10.
Also they're not realizing how long and how many resources were needed by every player to build a decent defense.
Now introducing this systems is just like saying...we don't care how much effort, units, sig stones you had to put into it, now you can't use those defenders anymore...
Lmfao @Draco2199 take a lesson from Kendrick and sit down be humble
He cannot...he's a phony. He just proved it. My little trap worked perfectly. I was top 10 but really did get tired of spending. That is why my 500k (I'm rounding up) account now sits in an alliance that only does map 5.
Lmfao @Draco2199 take a lesson from Kendrick and sit down be humble
He cannot...he's a phony. He just proved it. My little trap worked perfectly. I was top 10 but really did get tired of spending. That is why my 500k (I'm rounding up) account now sits in an alliance that only does map 5.
How is it a trap, you aren't even close to a high level player? How is this a trap lol? How did you get me? You want my login name, not gonna happen. Not sure what you proved other than you aren't a top level player....so....good job.
Lmfao @Draco2199 take a lesson from Kendrick and sit down be humble
He cannot...he's a phony. He just proved it. My little trap worked perfectly. I was top 10 but really did get tired of spending. That is why my 500k (I'm rounding up) account now sits in an alliance that only does map 5.
How is it a trap, you aren't even close to a high level player? How is this a trap lol? How did you get me? You want my login name, not gonna happen. Not sure what you proved other than you aren't a top level player....so....good job.
The only reason you don't give up your game name is because you are a fake! It's true. I was in a top 10 alliance up until the nerf months ago. The moment you give up your game name I will go and check it with my brethren in the actual top 10 alliances. I may only have 2 r4, but until you provide a legit account we all know that you have NONE!
Lmfao @Draco2199 take a lesson from Kendrick and sit down be humble
He cannot...he's a phony. He just proved it. My little trap worked perfectly. I was top 10 but really did get tired of spending. That is why my 500k (I'm rounding up) account now sits in an alliance that only does map 5.
How is it a trap, you aren't even close to a high level player? How is this a trap lol? How did you get me? You want my login name, not gonna happen. Not sure what you proved other than you aren't a top level player....so....good job.
The only reason you don't give up your game name is because you are a fake! It's true. I was in a top 10 alliance up until the nerf months ago. The moment you give up your game name I will go and check it with my brethren in the actual top 10 alliances. I may only have 2 r4, but until you provide a legit account we all know that you have NONE!
I don't give it up because I don't want people contacting me in game. You were never in a top 10 alliance with that roster so quit just stop.
Lmfao @Draco2199 take a lesson from Kendrick and sit down be humble
He cannot...he's a phony. He just proved it. My little trap worked perfectly. I was top 10 but really did get tired of spending. That is why my 500k (I'm rounding up) account now sits in an alliance that only does map 5.
How is it a trap, you aren't even close to a high level player? How is this a trap lol? How did you get me? You want my login name, not gonna happen. Not sure what you proved other than you aren't a top level player....so....good job.
The only reason you don't give up your game name is because you are a fake! It's true. I was in a top 10 alliance up until the nerf months ago. The moment you give up your game name I will go and check it with my brethren in the actual top 10 alliances. I may only have 2 r4, but until you provide a legit account we all know that you have NONE!
I don't give it up because I don't want people contacting me in game. You were never in a top 10 alliance with that roster so quit just stop.
Fact there are about 5-9 guys in top alliances that are skilled and run AQs and AWs offense, I know I used to run a bunch of accounts and I still have all the logins.
Put down the shovel and quit digging. You've lied enough and been caught. No one here believes you. At least Nick is truthful and does not hide behind a fake forum name.
Think this was purposely done to extend the game. Making us rank up champs otherwise we have no use for. Said that diplomatically since I'm in jail now lol smh
My feeling is that they introduced the concept of 6* champs largely making 4* champs soon to be irrelivant. Now people will need to continue to rank 4* champs to diversify their defense as well as continue to grind arena and buy crystals. Imo diversity is artificially giving value back to 4* champs while we sit in limbo for the arrival of 6*
I believe the problems about the current condition of AW are not directly related to dexterity and MD.
It's the scoring system that does not reward skills. Attackers kills and defenders kills had the purpose to make you feel your fight had a purpose. They motivated you to be a better player.
Now there's no real challenge. Also showing all defenders classes in high tiers it's just a bad idea, since that hidden variable was something nice to play out as a strategy for defense.
You are right. The whole issue was Kabam stupidly eliminated the defense element from a war. Removing defender kills to encourage item use and spending is what got them into this BS situation. Defender kills ought to count in ANY war, even a 2nd grade kid will tell you that.
On top of it, they ranked diversity so high. It was a simple case of putting their scoring system in a spreadsheet and running all the scenarios. Its what functional consultants do. And the attack nodes became way too easy. Thats what the testers check. I guess both didnt do their jobs.
I wonder what the tolerance level of unprofessionalism at Kabam are... With the stupid ideas and half baked updates they keep putting out, ideally, we should see some heads roll.
Revert it for the love of god. Diversity is beyond stupid and your punishing people for ranking up champs in your old system.i want rdt if this system stays period. It should not. This is worse then 12.0 imo because now everyone's favorite mode in game is worthless and boring. Not only that but my work for a solid defense destroyed rewards not greater then before. More time in game moving. This game is getting more stale everyday and the idiots running it have no clue what's going on. the whole new wars need to be scraped and left alone until you can actually put something out that isn't complete garbage.
Solution: everyone hates mystic wars so easy solution update the rewards for each tier. Until you can decide the new map and nodes. It's that simple if I get better rewards I will work harder.
I don't hate mystic wars, so "everyone" does not hate mystic wars.
Correct statement would be most people hate MD wars, but hey instead of fixing whats broken lets reduce complete AW to garbage
Lol. This discussion is hilarious. Obviously people dont understand the diversity. The map is easy to complete. Place a diverse defense. Who cares about rank. They are gonna get beat! A smaller alliance can beat a bigger alliance with diversity. This does make it so smaller alliance have a chance. Take the time to coordinate a diverse defense. And 100% the map!
How can a smaller alliance beat a bigger alliance? You will lose on defense rating and diversity automatically.
Defender Rating is a toss up, depending on who goes up against them and what they place. I don't agree that they will have more diversity automatically. Many Allies have a range of Champs outside the Top 10, or however many. It's just my view. I agree that it's a major problem. I'm thinking the new system will help is all.
As a statistician and analyst I intend to offer a suggestion or two regarding Alliance war.
"Game Theory is the study of mathematical models of conflict and cooperation between intelligent rational decision-makers."
In Game Theory all complex decisions can be reduced to a series of Choices within a given Environment in order to achieve desired Outcomes.
I won't bore you with descriptive analogies.
As this applies to Alliance War: Desired Outcomes = defeat opposing alliance. Environment = Alliance War map with 9 necessary routes + a given Point Rubric Choices = Constrained by the environment such that an Alliance has exactly 1 strategic option.
The third item (Constrained Choices) is the visible complaint that you have with Alliance War 2.0, and is seemingly why everyone is upset.
The second item (Environment) is the root cause of the of the Constrained Choices problem.
The Alliance War map allows the for the placement of 50 defenders across a map with 92 tiles, 54 of which are capable of containing a defender.
The Alliance War map can be traversed entirely by an alliance moving on as few as 9 paths.
Due to the relative high-value of Boss kills (20,000 each) and Exploration (300 per tile), there are no viable strategies that do not include full exploration. Therefore, those values (totaling 150,000)can be canceled and removed from the victory calculation.
Where,
placement = 50
diversity = 125
kills = 50
uniquechamps = 106 (at the time of writing)*
rating = 0.02
X1 = Alliance A # defenders
X2 = Alliance A # unique defenders
X3 = Alliance A total defender rating (avg defender rating * X1)
Y1 = Alliance B # defenders
Y2 = Alliance B # unique defenders
Y3 = Alliance B # defender ratings (avg defender rating * X1)
* side-note this calculation is written with respect to the scoring system as presented within the Forums, not as presented within the game itself. I.E. this calculation is consistent with Alliance-Wide diversity.
With the above Victory Calculation in mind, there are now (2) potential strategic options, and only (1) viable option.
Option 1) Strong Defense, attempt to prevent Opposition from 100% Exploration
Option 2) 100% Exploration, Maximize Diversity, Maximize Defense Rating.
The Alliance War Map can be traversed and fully explored by 9 people on 9 routes. An Average Alliance with 10 members will have 1 member out of 10 reserved entirely as backup. So the Map environment does not prohibit 100% exploration.
There is no penalty for an attacker Knock Out so a given determined attacker could revive his entire team for 40% hp 15 times. More than enough to make it through any given path, albeit expensively.
The Alliance War node buffs are regarded as being weak and insufficient from prohibiting a determined assault.
Best possible outcome = Opposition is unable to take 1 or more boss tiles.
Most likely outcome = Opposition will 100% explore map.
Scenario 1 = Max Diversity, High Quality
Let's assume that two imaginary Alliances are able to field 150 defenders totaling 750,000 defense rating (avg defender = 5000). Both are able to provide 106/150 unique champions, both are able to 100% all three BGs.
The score for both teams would be 193,250
Scenario 2 = Minor Diversity, High Defense Quality
Let's assume that Alliance A executes strategic Option 2, while Alliance B forgoes diversity for maximum defender quality, fielding 3 identical battlegroups of 50 unique champions. Both alliance can field champs avg defender rating = 5000
Alliance A = 193,250
Alliance B = 186,250
Alliance B loses by a 7,000 spread, all Diversity points.
Let's now assume that Alliance A executes strategic Option 2, while Alliance B miraculously is able to field the 30 teams of the exact same 5 strongest quality defenders. (probably full mystic teams). Both alliance can field champs avg defender rating = 5000
Alliance A = 193,250
Alliance B = 180,625
Alliance B loses by a 12,625 spread, all Diversity points.
Scenario 4 = Maximum Diversity, No Duplicates
Ok, let's say Alliance B thinks there is some advantage to ONLY fielding the 106 unique defenders. Both alliance can field champs avg defender rating = 5000
Alliance A = 191,050 (can only kill 106 defenders, but larger defense rating)
Alliance B = 186,650 (can kill 150 defenders, but smaller defense rating)
Alliance B loses by 4,400 points, all Defense Rating & Placement overcomes Kills.
When you chart those 4 strategies:
Only 2 Strategies actually have a viable outcome.
Max Diversity, High Quality can outmatch 3 of 4 potential opponent strategies, and tie against a matching strategy.
Max Diversity, No dupes has an opportunity to win against Min Diversity, High Quality.
GAME THEORY HAPPENING NOW
So, if you are to consider your own potential strategies, Min Diversity, High Quality has no chance of winning against any of the four opponent strategies.
When that happens in Game you discard that as a viable strategy, and you discard that strategy as a viable strategy for your opponent since they will arrive at the same conclusion. This effectively reduces the choice table.
Now you have 3 potential strategies rather than 4, as does your opponent.
Since we do not know in advance what the opponent will decide, we will assume that each potential strategy is equally likely for the opponent.
Max Diversity, High Quality has 1 chance to tie, and 2 chances to win, a 66% probability of success and a 33% probability to tie.
Minor Diversity, High Quality has 1 chance to lose, 1 chance to tie, and 1 chance to win, a 33% probability of success, and a 33% probability to fail.
Max Diversity, No Dupes has 2 chances to lose and 1 chance to win, a 33% probability of success, and 66% probability to fail.
ANOTHER REDUCTION
Since the Max Diversity, No Dupes strategy has a better chance to reward the opposition than me, I will remove that from my choice of viable strategies. Since I remove that choice for myself, I will assume that my opponent has come to the same conclusion:
And now we have arrived at the root of the problem.
Under the environment and conditions of Alliance War 2.0, there is only (1) viable strategy any rational Alliance can pursue.
If the only way you could play chess was Torre Attack Wagner Gambit, then you would probably not want to play chess.
Change the Environment such that more than 1 strategem is viable:
Potential options include
More PATHS than 10, such that no Alliance can possibly 100% exploration.
Introduce COSTS to the equation. Defense kills was a sufficient Cost in AW 1.0, but is not necessarily the only cost that could be introduced.
Restructure the points Rubric such that the rewards for Exploration (90,000) and Boss kills (60,000) are not so disproportionate to Diversity (13,250) & Rating (< 2000)
Mcoc is number 34 on my countries top grossing apps, seriously kabam start to realise these lame money grabbing antics you keep pulling are just alienating you're spender base. Fix the bugs, start listening to your players, give us a good quality product and new people joining will get hooked and you can grow your player base, this diversity system is lame it's just a grind within the alliance and people all unhappy they are having to place **** defenders
With AW 1.0 you could use your skills and smarts to beat a stronger team. That's what made it so fun.
Now you can't do that. Now it's all based on the strength of your roster (diverse champs and defender ratings).
Congrats you just killed the spirit of AW.
Might as well skip attack and let the computer calculate the winner once you're matched up, because that's all it is now. Attack phase is a formality at this point.
Comments
Okay, what's you in game profile?
Whats yours?
Same as my name in the forums.
Umm I know lol
Okay, your turn
Same
No users found...try again
Seriously I'm not wasting my time on a 200K player you clearly just started don't even have an r4 5* like I said. You have one r5 4* so you can't compare or even relate to being in a top 10 alliance. Thanks for the input though.
See, I knew it. You're a phony. Now check out my primary account...XNickRiv!
495K Ok so you've been playing for a year with 2 r4s, congrats still can't relate to top 10.
Now introducing this systems is just like saying...we don't care how much effort, units, sig stones you had to put into it, now you can't use those defenders anymore...
He cannot...he's a phony. He just proved it. My little trap worked perfectly. I was top 10 but really did get tired of spending. That is why my 500k (I'm rounding up) account now sits in an alliance that only does map 5.
How is it a trap, you aren't even close to a high level player? How is this a trap lol? How did you get me? You want my login name, not gonna happen. Not sure what you proved other than you aren't a top level player....so....good job.
I don't understand what this even means.
The only reason you don't give up your game name is because you are a fake! It's true. I was in a top 10 alliance up until the nerf months ago. The moment you give up your game name I will go and check it with my brethren in the actual top 10 alliances. I may only have 2 r4, but until you provide a legit account we all know that you have NONE!
It means that you need to stop with the lies and spamming threads.
I don't give it up because I don't want people contacting me in game. You were never in a top 10 alliance with that roster so quit just stop.
Put down the shovel and quit digging. You've lied enough and been caught. No one here believes you. At least Nick is truthful and does not hide behind a fake forum name.
You are right. The whole issue was Kabam stupidly eliminated the defense element from a war. Removing defender kills to encourage item use and spending is what got them into this BS situation. Defender kills ought to count in ANY war, even a 2nd grade kid will tell you that.
On top of it, they ranked diversity so high. It was a simple case of putting their scoring system in a spreadsheet and running all the scenarios. Its what functional consultants do. And the attack nodes became way too easy. Thats what the testers check. I guess both didnt do their jobs.
I wonder what the tolerance level of unprofessionalism at Kabam are... With the stupid ideas and half baked updates they keep putting out, ideally, we should see some heads roll.
Correct statement would be most people hate MD wars, but hey instead of fixing whats broken lets reduce complete AW to garbage
Defender Rating is a toss up, depending on who goes up against them and what they place. I don't agree that they will have more diversity automatically. Many Allies have a range of Champs outside the Top 10, or however many. It's just my view. I agree that it's a major problem. I'm thinking the new system will help is all.
All credit goes to @JJW
Now you can't do that. Now it's all based on the strength of your roster (diverse champs and defender ratings).
Congrats you just killed the spirit of AW.
Might as well skip attack and let the computer calculate the winner once you're matched up, because that's all it is now. Attack phase is a formality at this point.