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  • SnurrisSnurris Member Posts: 434 ★★★
    @GroundedWisdom i have been reading through this tread and I must say that you are right on a lot of points. But at the same time you are going at it in a totally wrong way. There is almost 1000 posts in here of which 99% are from very upset and disappointed cavalier players.
    In that case you can argue all you want on Kabams reasons but it will just be like banging your head against a wall. Totally disappointed people are not ready to listen and will just direct their anger at you and you become a troll which I really think you don’t want to be.
    You are probably totally right when you say that kabam did this to maintain stability of the game. Not letting players become TB to fast, to keep the diversity. But you are missing out on an important thing imo.

    Kabam created these offers 100% out of their own perspective and didn’t stop to think for a second of what the player base wanted or anticipated due to previous offers in the past. Also they totally underestimated the impact of the new title, TB.
    Of course they can’t always deliver what the base wants, that would not work and the balance would surely, like you yourself claim, be broken.
    But if you want to be successful in making offers it’s all about psychology and strategy and knowing what the base wants.
    But this only matters if you use the knowledge to find necessary balance. How keep balance and still make the important player base at least a bit happy? It’s not that hard.
    I wonder if they realized that this in a flash would put the relationship between a lot of players and kabam back to where it was before the road map...
  • AxeGrinder12167AxeGrinder12167 Member Posts: 1
    I've been playing mcoc for a long time and this is the first time writing a post in the forums. I'm so upset with their kabam marketing team for doing this to Cavalier players and feel like this is the time to leave the game. Hopefully they will remove the gate restriction between Cavalier and Thronebreaker because it will leave more gaps to other players because of having bad rng in the game. @Kabam Miike appreciate if you can do this and speak to your colleagues 🙏
  • Suros_moonSuros_moon Member Posts: 475 ★★★
    edited November 2020

    DL864 said:

    DL864 said:

    How did I know this would come? Lol.

    @GroundedWisdom genuinely interested to hear what you think but correct me if I'm wrong.. you're not cav yet?
    I am.
    The Deals are pretty bomb considering what you get for what you spend. Not sure why people are comparing them to July 4th. Two different ball games. What I think the real issue is, is that people expected them to get them to Thronebreaker, and that was an assumption.
    Has to be a troll post. I can't even think you're being serious.
    What Cavalier player who's at 6.3+ needs T4b from a unit deal? Please check the deals first. Read them clearly and then come back.
    Let's look at this logically. They come out with a new bar to hit which separates Players based on progress. You have the biggest sale of the year coming up where loads of people spend, and the most rare Resource in the game is needed. Do you think they're going to add it so that many people can hit it all at once? Is it even a bar anymore?
    I mean they are a business which wants to make money and set an expectation with 4th of July. So if they had stuck with the 4th deals people would be happy but having 4tcc in the deals is just ridiculous. I have so many of those Crystal's I dont need that ****. So thier business will not be getting my 200 today
    They didn't set any expectation with 4th of July. That's what always happens. People look at one Sale and call it a norm. Black Friday is not the 4th of July.
    There are a bunch of people I would say probably about 99% of cav players and even mods that would disagree with you. You would have to be blind not to see what they are doing
    No, I'm not blind. If people have expectations that every Sale has to best the last one, then that's entirely unreasonable. Not to mention undoable in any semblance of game balance.
    Logic doesn’t hold up in the gifting event buddy. Or any other place for that matter

  • ch4rnch4rn Member Posts: 275 ★★
    As much as everyone knew the deals would be skewed between cavalier and thronebreaker, these deals were horrendous.
    It was almost unthinkable that the deals could and would be way off from what was offered during the July 4th bundles.

    It's fair to say that both cav and TB got the short end of the stick when it came to the unit based deals.

    I really do hope that Kabam send out a 10% selector for each odin purchased to cav players to try and fix this mess.
  • TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,102 ★★★★★
    Look at the sigil and the difference between uncollected and cavalier. Kabam has clearly put a wider gulf between Thronebreaker and cav players. Why can’t cav players get a feature crystal for 14,000 instead of 13,000 for cavaliers? Why can’t cavalier get ANY t5cc for 5000 units? If there were crumbs acknowledging the progress made on this journey, people wouldn’t be so insulted.
  • DshuDshu Member Posts: 1,504 ★★★★
    ch4rn said:

    As much as everyone knew the deals would be skewed between cavalier and thronebreaker, these deals were horrendous.
    It was almost unthinkable that the deals could and would be way off from what was offered during the July 4th bundles.

    It's fair to say that both cav and TB got the short end of the stick when it came to the unit based deals.

    I really do hope that Kabam send out a 10% selector for each odin purchased to cav players to try and fix this mess.

    This would be a mistake. If they send out a selector to people who purchased the offer as is it will create a backlash from players who will claim they would have purchased the offer had it been there originally. In addition anyone who purchased these deals did so knowing full well what was offered in them. I wasn't impressed by the offers the same as almost everyone else posting to this thread. For that reason many here have taken to the forum to express their disappointment. What many here have also done is refrained from purchasing any of these offers. This will show kabam how dissatisfied we were with the offers put out for cyber weekend. This will hit their bottom line. While they will still make a good profit off those whaling out on the offers they will still lose out on money that would have been spent by the large percentage of players that feel these offers are out of touch with the community. By buying the offers as they stand you are saying to kabam that they are fine. This doesn't give them any reason to adjust existing or future offers since you are still spending. It also gives no reason to send anything to people who purchased them since they already received everything they purchased.
  • ch4rnch4rn Member Posts: 275 ★★
    Dshu said:

    ch4rn said:

    As much as everyone knew the deals would be skewed between cavalier and thronebreaker, these deals were horrendous.
    It was almost unthinkable that the deals could and would be way off from what was offered during the July 4th bundles.

    It's fair to say that both cav and TB got the short end of the stick when it came to the unit based deals.

    I really do hope that Kabam send out a 10% selector for each odin purchased to cav players to try and fix this mess.

    This would be a mistake. If they send out a selector to people who purchased the offer as is it will create a backlash from players who will claim they would have purchased the offer had it been there originally. In addition anyone who purchased these deals did so knowing full well what was offered in them. I wasn't impressed by the offers the same as almost everyone else posting to this thread. For that reason many here have taken to the forum to express their disappointment. What many here have also done is refrained from purchasing any of these offers. This will show kabam how dissatisfied we were with the offers put out for cyber weekend. This will hit their bottom line. While they will still make a good profit off those whaling out on the offers they will still lose out on money that would have been spent by the large percentage of players that feel these offers are out of touch with the community. By buying the offers as they stand you are saying to kabam that they are fine. This doesn't give them any reason to adjust existing or future offers since you are still spending. It also gives no reason to send anything to people who purchased them since they already received everything they purchased.
    While I understand where you're coming from, not all cavalier players are at the same progression with story mode or roster depth. So where the deals sucked for players close to becoming TB, they look good for newer cav players.

    The fact that Kabam offer a 10% T5CC selector for £50 on a regular basis now, I'd like to think that some sort of selector would have been added. Even as TB, I found the deals slightly underwhelming as there was a shortage of T2A, but thats not the concern here for me as cav's got screwed hard.
  • DshuDshu Member Posts: 1,504 ★★★★
    ch4rn said:

    Dshu said:

    ch4rn said:

    As much as everyone knew the deals would be skewed between cavalier and thronebreaker, these deals were horrendous.
    It was almost unthinkable that the deals could and would be way off from what was offered during the July 4th bundles.

    It's fair to say that both cav and TB got the short end of the stick when it came to the unit based deals.

    I really do hope that Kabam send out a 10% selector for each odin purchased to cav players to try and fix this mess.

    This would be a mistake. If they send out a selector to people who purchased the offer as is it will create a backlash from players who will claim they would have purchased the offer had it been there originally. In addition anyone who purchased these deals did so knowing full well what was offered in them. I wasn't impressed by the offers the same as almost everyone else posting to this thread. For that reason many here have taken to the forum to express their disappointment. What many here have also done is refrained from purchasing any of these offers. This will show kabam how dissatisfied we were with the offers put out for cyber weekend. This will hit their bottom line. While they will still make a good profit off those whaling out on the offers they will still lose out on money that would have been spent by the large percentage of players that feel these offers are out of touch with the community. By buying the offers as they stand you are saying to kabam that they are fine. This doesn't give them any reason to adjust existing or future offers since you are still spending. It also gives no reason to send anything to people who purchased them since they already received everything they purchased.
    While I understand where you're coming from, not all cavalier players are at the same progression with story mode or roster depth. So where the deals sucked for players close to becoming TB, they look good for newer cav players.

    The fact that Kabam offer a 10% T5CC selector for £50 on a regular basis now, I'd like to think that some sort of selector would have been added. Even as TB, I found the deals slightly underwhelming as there was a shortage of T2A, but thats not the concern here for me as cav's got screwed hard.
    Agree all cavalier players are at different levels and to new ones the shards (which made up most of tge deals) probably do look enticing. To those who lack a small amount of t5cc a selector would have probably been all that was needed. Doesn't change the fact that if people bought the deals as they are now they excepted the items in there and don't deserve anything added. Im certain in the coming weeks kabam will offer selectors for cash offers again but without the bonus items people would have received this weekend. The argument that they are trying to keep balance with the new title is stupid in my opinion if you are going to keep selling the rankup resources needed to meet this requirement. If they truly wanted to make thronebreaker a progression based title it would be locked behind Content the same as other progression levels. Spending on these offers is a players personal choice but asking for more to be added after the fact is not a solution that will satisfy those unhappy with the current offers unless its done before the offers expire. There is also zero reason to give anything additional if they are already getting your money for the offers as they are now.
  • J_SenderoJ_Sendero Member Posts: 10
    Wait, so 1-30 in the gifting even gets a RANK 2-3 RANK UP GEM.

    but cavalier got the garbage that were the cyber weekend deals this weekend? OK.

    Cavalier deals get worse while thronebreaker is a massive deal and gifting event is unprecedented.
  • DshuDshu Member Posts: 1,504 ★★★★
    Ebony_Naw said:

    Dshu said:

    ch4rn said:

    Dshu said:

    ch4rn said:

    As much as everyone knew the deals would be skewed between cavalier and thronebreaker, these deals were horrendous.
    It was almost unthinkable that the deals could and would be way off from what was offered during the July 4th bundles.

    It's fair to say that both cav and TB got the short end of the stick when it came to the unit based deals.

    I really do hope that Kabam send out a 10% selector for each odin purchased to cav players to try and fix this mess.

    This would be a mistake. If they send out a selector to people who purchased the offer as is it will create a backlash from players who will claim they would have purchased the offer had it been there originally. In addition anyone who purchased these deals did so knowing full well what was offered in them. I wasn't impressed by the offers the same as almost everyone else posting to this thread. For that reason many here have taken to the forum to express their disappointment. What many here have also done is refrained from purchasing any of these offers. This will show kabam how dissatisfied we were with the offers put out for cyber weekend. This will hit their bottom line. While they will still make a good profit off those whaling out on the offers they will still lose out on money that would have been spent by the large percentage of players that feel these offers are out of touch with the community. By buying the offers as they stand you are saying to kabam that they are fine. This doesn't give them any reason to adjust existing or future offers since you are still spending. It also gives no reason to send anything to people who purchased them since they already received everything they purchased.
    While I understand where you're coming from, not all cavalier players are at the same progression with story mode or roster depth. So where the deals sucked for players close to becoming TB, they look good for newer cav players.

    The fact that Kabam offer a 10% T5CC selector for £50 on a regular basis now, I'd like to think that some sort of selector would have been added. Even as TB, I found the deals slightly underwhelming as there was a shortage of T2A, but thats not the concern here for me as cav's got screwed hard.
    Agree all cavalier players are at different levels and to new ones the shards (which made up most of tge deals) probably do look enticing. To those who lack a small amount of t5cc a selector would have probably been all that was needed. Doesn't change the fact that if people bought the deals as they are now they excepted the items in there and don't deserve anything added. Im certain in the coming weeks kabam will offer selectors for cash offers again but without the bonus items people would have received this weekend. The argument that they are trying to keep balance with the new title is stupid in my opinion if you are going to keep selling the rankup resources needed to meet this requirement. If they truly wanted to make thronebreaker a progression based title it would be locked behind Content the same as other progression levels. Spending on these offers is a players personal choice but asking for more to be added after the fact is not a solution that will satisfy those unhappy with the current offers unless its done before the offers expire. There is also zero reason to give anything additional if they are already getting your money for the offers as they are now.
    If one were to complete Act 6 and Abyss, they would have access to the TB title. I really don't understand how people say it is not locked behind content.
    So there are no players in the game who have not completed abyss? The cash offers leading up to cyber weekend allowed people to reach the same rank 3 requirement. I would be happy to see these titles locked solely behind Content but there are people who have completed abyss and act 6 still waiting for the right champ to rank. The random rankup requirement is my issue with the title.
  • BadPullsMarcoBadPullsMarco Member Posts: 418 ★★★
    The difference in quality from those two offers when skill and roster requirements are the same is a legendary betrayal of trust. My account:




    Minus one, all rank 2 plus like 45 other 6 stars.

    After 40 to 5o Combinations of t5cc fragment crystal, they all rolled relatively evenly, so this is as much as I have:



    Notice that's basically 1 thronbreaker Odin (which is would have bought 3 off)

    Why am I being so punishes for RNG and no other factor?
  • TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,102 ★★★★★
    You wanna know how bad this was? $30 got you 6000 t5b, 1000 6-star shards, and 30 sig stones on July 4 of LAST year. Two thousand and nineteen. 17 months ago.

    5000 units got you the same 3000 6-star shards, 80 sig stones instead of 50, and 18,000 t5b instead of none. The trade off was some extra RNG fiesta 5-star shards and some extra t2a.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    J_Sendero said:

    Wait, so 1-30 in the gifting even gets a RANK 2-3 RANK UP GEM.

    but cavalier got the garbage that were the cyber weekend deals this weekend? OK.

    Cavalier deals get worse while thronebreaker is a massive deal and gifting event is unprecedented.

    Bc someone who just spent $10k+ in a single event getting their 15th R3 makes any difference in the game.
  • BiggusOmegaBiggusOmega Member Posts: 43
    They'll be hoping everyone falls back in line when the deals expire tomorrow.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,509 ★★★★★

    DL864 said:

    DL864 said:

    How did I know this would come? Lol.

    @GroundedWisdom genuinely interested to hear what you think but correct me if I'm wrong.. you're not cav yet?
    I am.
    The Deals are pretty bomb considering what you get for what you spend. Not sure why people are comparing them to July 4th. Two different ball games. What I think the real issue is, is that people expected them to get them to Thronebreaker, and that was an assumption.
    Has to be a troll post. I can't even think you're being serious.
    What Cavalier player who's at 6.3+ needs T4b from a unit deal? Please check the deals first. Read them clearly and then come back.
    Let's look at this logically. They come out with a new bar to hit which separates Players based on progress. You have the biggest sale of the year coming up where loads of people spend, and the most rare Resource in the game is needed. Do you think they're going to add it so that many people can hit it all at once? Is it even a bar anymore?
    I mean they are a business which wants to make money and set an expectation with 4th of July. So if they had stuck with the 4th deals people would be happy but having 4tcc in the deals is just ridiculous. I have so many of those Crystal's I dont need that ****. So thier business will not be getting my 200 today
    They didn't set any expectation with 4th of July. That's what always happens. People look at one Sale and call it a norm. Black Friday is not the 4th of July.
    There are a bunch of people I would say probably about 99% of cav players and even mods that would disagree with you. You would have to be blind not to see what they are doing
    No, I'm not blind. If people have expectations that every Sale has to best the last one, then that's entirely unreasonable. Not to mention undoable in any semblance of game balance.
    Logic doesn’t hold up in the gifting event buddy. Or any other place for that matter

    How many people are going to get those Rewards in Gifting? Not nearly as many as people ready to R3 all at once for Thronebreaker.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    PCdawg63 said:

    I never want to hear about game balance ever again after looking at these gifting rewards. You can’t even give cavalier players decent offers to spend or use our units on. But spend to play? Sure why not. Unbelievable.

    So you're competing with the people that are willing to drop tens of thousands of dollars in a single event currently? Absolutely nothing on offer from gifting makes any difference whatsoever to the overall game.

    Last year they had t5cc on offer before you could even earn a full one in the game. THAT was a big deal. This year? Nothing in rank rewards changes a single thing overall honestly.
  • GreekhitGreekhit Member Posts: 2,820 ★★★★★
    PCdawg63 said:

    I never want to hear about game balance ever again after looking at these gifting rewards. You can’t even give cavalier players decent offers to spend or use our units on. But spend to play? Sure why not. Unbelievable.

    Spenders are having their best period this year 😉
    Free to play are doomed to fall far behind them, the longer they’ve been since the game started 😠
    You can see it from famous ftp YT players, how low they are compared to the whales, at least in terms of prestige. The difference is chaotic at this point.
    I ain’t ftp myself, but what is happening lately is not good for the game overall 🙁
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,509 ★★★★★

    PCdawg63 said:

    I never want to hear about game balance ever again after looking at these gifting rewards. You can’t even give cavalier players decent offers to spend or use our units on. But spend to play? Sure why not. Unbelievable.

    So you're competing with the people that are willing to drop tens of thousands of dollars in a single event currently? Absolutely nothing on offer from gifting makes any difference whatsoever to the overall game.

    Last year they had t5cc on offer before you could even earn a full one in the game. THAT was a big deal. This year? Nothing in rank rewards changes a single thing overall honestly.
    Not to mention the numbers. The number of people able to drop stacks is not the same as the number of people wanting to push through to TB. When that many people hit it all at once, it affects things.
  • saorpssaorps Member Posts: 81
    This was the worst cyber weekend ever! I am at the cavalier level and expected some T5cc promo. for the unit deal, nothing at all. I expected something at a 4k deal (maybe 5% or 10%) and something wow in the 10k deal (one random 25% and one 15% selector). but there was nothing!
    then, I jumped to the money deals and there was also nothing until Odin level and only 10%. that sucks!
    I felt like a message from Kabam to me saying: "if you want to become thronebreaker, you have to do the hard way! your money will not help you get there!
    @Kabam Miike please share this feedback with the people who created the deals - they lost the opportunity of getting some easy money from cavalier players.
  • Chrisco66Chrisco66 Member Posts: 66
    The game caters to the spenders period. Look at the previews for the upcoming gifting event. Who do u think is going to get those t5cc? The deepest wallets who prob don’t even “need” the t5cc
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Bahubali said:

    Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales for Class Cats. The game balance is also something that needs to be taken into consideration.

    Gifting event says hi
    That person that just spent 10s of thousands of dollars and got their 15th R3 really changes things for those players trying to stretch to get their first R3... Sure
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,509 ★★★★★
    Bahubali said:

    Spending is only one aspect. If it was all just about money, they'd likely pollute the game with Sales for Class Cats. The game balance is also something that needs to be taken into consideration.

    Gifting event says hi
    People keep bringing up Gifting, but they don't stop to consider the numbers. How many people would have hit TB with CM versus how many people are going to actually benefit from Gifting? Think.
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