My ranking of the top 5 champions in each class

KDSuperFlash10 · March 2021

HI_guys said:

BitterSteel said:
Everyone hating on OP is forgetting that if they wrote their own top 5 of each class they’d get a hell of a lot of disagrees too. That’s what you get with putting your opinion on 30 champions out there, someone will disagree somewhere along the line.

BitterSteel said:
Everyone hating on OP is forgetting that if they wrote their own top 5 of each class they’d get a hell of a lot of disagrees too. That’s what you get with putting your opinion on 30 champions out there, someone will disagree somewhere along the line.
Everyone hating on OP because he's a troll. Nothing more,nothing less

I’m not a troll. It seems that in the modern day anyone who disagrees with another person’s opinion on the internet is a “troll”. I just don’t conform to the typical common opinions that others have, it doesn’t make me a troll.

altavista · March 2021

Fun list. I have my personal preferences that differ, but reading some of the comments, people seem triggered and calling OP a troll.

If everyone keeps saying “tier lists are dumb, decide on your own”, why is everyone accusing OP of being a troll who is obviously wrong? There’s no correct answer (aside from Quake and Ghost at the top). Additionally, everyone would have pretty much 60-70% of their top five champs be identical to OP (in a slightly different order of course)

So, people on the forum both argue that there is no definitive ranking, but also that there is a definitive ranking if Gambit is so high. Clearly, a paradox.

The only real eyebrow raiser for me is Moleman, but I have no personal experience with the buffed champion so I’ll withhold my judgment on that. But everything seems understandable if that’s based on OP’s account and personal experience.

The_Sentry06 · March 2021

Perfect Block is nice but nothing so valuable that I'd rank Gambit over other mutants like Prof X, Mags, Apoco and AA.
And without horseman, no way Gambit is top 5.

The_Sentry06 · March 2021

My ranking:

Mutant:
Omega
Mags
AA
Apoco
Prof X/ Colossus
(Still prefer Prof X over Apoco though)

Skill:
Aegon
Nick
Falcon
Mole Man
KM

Science:
Quake
Cap IW
Void
HT
Ibom

Mystic:
Doom
Sorceror
Claire
Tigra
Sym Supreme

Cosmic:
Hyperion
Corvus
CGR
Venom
Cap Marvel

Tech:
Ghost
Warlock
Guardian
Guilly 2099
HB

HollywoodShono · March 2021

KDSuperFlash10 said:
Just a heads up that there will be some ties between champions that I believe are on similar grounds in terms of overall power.

Mutant:
1. Apocalypse
2. Horseman Gambit
3. Magneto
4. Horseman AA/Omega Red
5. Cable (with Apoc synergy)/Professor X/Namor

Skill:
1. Nick Fury
2. Mole Man
3. Aegon
4. Falcon
5. Kingpin

Science:
1. Quake
2. Human Torch
3. iHulk
4. Cap IW/Void
5. iBom/She-Hulk

Mystic:
1. Doctor Doom
2. BWCV
3. Sorcerer Supreme
4. Symbiote Supreme
5. Tigra

Cosmic:
1. CGR
2. Corvus
3. Hyperion
4. Angela
5. Silver Surfer

Tech:
1. Ghost
2. Warlock
3. Guillotine 2099
4. Guardian/Hulkbuster
5. Stark Spidey

Thoughts? Feel free to share your own top 5 lists as well!

Mutant:
1) Colossus
2) Red Magneto
3) Apocalypse
4) Wolverine
5) Archangel(If they can bleed and be poisoned)

Skill:
1) Nick Fury
2) Hit Monkey
3) Aegon
4) Kingpin
5) Elsa Bloodstone

Science:
1) Human Torch
2) Captain America Infinity War
3) Quake
4) Void
5) Immortal Abomination

Mystic
1) Doctor Doom
2) Black Widow Clare Voyant
3) Symbiote Supreme
4) Sasquatch
5) Tigra

Tech
1) Warlock
2) Guillotine 2099
3) Ghost
4) Doctor Octopus
5) Guardian

Cosmic
1) Cosmic Ghost Rider
2) Corvus Glaive
3) Hyperion
4) Angela
5) Captain Marvel Movie

Wu_Bangerz23 · March 2021

8 mutants and no sign of Collosus who on his own (no Apoc) is arguably number 1....and he doesn't crack your top 8??? I stopped reading there....

Crcrcrc · March 2021

Wu_Bangerz23 said:
8 mutants and no sign of Collosus who on his own (no Apoc) is arguably number 1....and he doesn't crack your top 8??? I stopped reading there....

Please tell me you did not just say he’s #1 when AA, OR, Mags, and Apoc all exist

The_Sentry06 · March 2021

Wu_Bangerz23 said:
8 mutants and no sign of Collosus who on his own (no Apoc) is arguably number 1....and he doesn't crack your top 8??? I stopped reading there....

He's quite good but definitely not top 1.

BuggyDClown · March 2021

KDSuperFlash10 said:
Just a heads up that there will be some ties between champions that I believe are on similar grounds in terms of overall power.

Mutant:
1. Apocalypse
2. Horseman Gambit
3. Magneto
4. Horseman AA/Omega Red
5. Cable (with Apoc synergy)/Professor X/Namor

Skill:
1. Nick Fury
2. Mole Man
3. Aegon
4. Falcon
5. Kingpin

Science:
1. Quake
2. Human Torch
3. iHulk
4. Cap IW/Void
5. iBom/She-Hulk

Mystic:
1. Doctor Doom
2. BWCV
3. Sorcerer Supreme
4. Symbiote Supreme
5. Tigra

Cosmic:
1. CGR
2. Corvus
3. Hyperion
4. Angela
5. Silver Surfer

Tech:
1. Ghost
2. Warlock
3. Guillotine 2099
4. Guardian/Hulkbuster
5. Stark Spidey

Thoughts? Feel free to share your own top 5 lists as well!

In skill Blade and Spidey deserves places
In mutant Colossus
In Science Void is 2nd tk quake
In Cosmic I rate Hyperion as best
Tech seems perfect but g2099 is my fav
Mystic is almost perfect

Kerneas · March 2021

I respect your opinion @KDSuperFlash10 , mine is very different, which is fine. You got plenty of things right, but I got couple questions:

1) where Venom? >:(
2) why hCable > hColossus?
3) why Sentinel < Starky?

Else I think I can agree with you, most of the champs are difficult to compare, so it is pointless to fight over some champs' placement within the top 5.

BitterSteel · March 2021

HI_guys said:

BitterSteel said:
Everyone hating on OP is forgetting that if they wrote their own top 5 of each class they’d get a hell of a lot of disagrees too. That’s what you get with putting your opinion on 30 champions out there, someone will disagree somewhere along the line.

BitterSteel said:
Everyone hating on OP is forgetting that if they wrote their own top 5 of each class they’d get a hell of a lot of disagrees too. That’s what you get with putting your opinion on 30 champions out there, someone will disagree somewhere along the line.
Everyone hating on OP because he's a troll. Nothing more,nothing less

What’s your top 5 of each class then?

Pulyaman · March 2021

I am not going to pile on the troll train. But no CMM in the cosmic class but Angela makes to the top 5?. If we are using synergies, Odin makes champs with fury buff insane which will take CMM to the top of the list after 1 fight(Same argument you used for Horseman Gambit). Colossus with Apoc is better than Cable. From what I see, your ranking change based on what content you are doing right now. With the fight in the mutant class for T4cc and t5cc, no idea why anyone would rank up gambit over any other mutant.

Will3808 · March 2021

I love horseman gambit but I wouldn’t put him that high. He’s top 5 but not #2.

Sarvanga1_ · March 2021

If perfect blocks are such a big thing then where's sunspot kd. He doesn't even need apoc to do this.

PtkVasco · March 2021

My

Mutant
Mag
Omega
Colossus
Apocalypse
Domino

Skill
Nick
Aegon
Mole
Stealthy
Falcon

Science
CAIW
Quake
Human torch
Void
She hulk

Cosmic
CGR
Corvus
CMM
Hyperion
Venom

Mystic
Doom
Symbiont supreme
Claire
Voodoo
Sorcerer supreme

Tech
Ghost
Warlock
Guillotine 2099
Hulkbuster
Guardian

TheMailmann · March 2021

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Papdichaat said:
You can’t really put 2 champs for 1 spot. It’s no longer a top 5 from each class list if you do that.
I found certain champs to be on similar level so I placed them in the same spot. Others may organize their top 5 lists in a different way, I chose to organize it like this. Enjoy!

i think what they meant is if 2 champs share the same spot at 4, then there shouldn’t be a 5th spot because you’ve already listed 5 champs. interesting list! some may disagree but it all depends on your own preference and playstyle really.

BitterSteel · March 2021

Sarvanga1_ said:
If perfect blocks are such a big thing then where's sunspot kd. He doesn't even need apoc to do this.

Because Sunspot is much less reliable. Think of it like this, with 3 criteria
1) How long the champion has to perfect block
2) What needs to happen for the champion to perfect block
3) Are there any outside factors that can stop the perfect block

1) Sunspot has 5 seconds after basic attacks to perfect block, and 14 seconds after his SP1 to perfect block. Gambit has a few seconds at the start of the fight where he builds up his charges and then it is infinite until charging a heavy.

2) Sunspot needs to parry, gambit just needs to hold block

3) Sunspot can be stopped by a) running out of incinerates and b) if the opponent is incinerate immune. Gambit is only stopped by using his specials, and then you have 16 seconds to use them (while prowess lasts) before you can build back up to 100% perfect block. During this time you will be using a lot of specials, so little time for the opponent to use a special or attack anyway. Both champions will be affected by unblockable etc equally.

Gambit has a better perfect block in all aspects

Sarvanga1_ · March 2021

BitterSteel said:

Sarvanga1_ said:
If perfect blocks are such a big thing then where's sunspot kd. He doesn't even need apoc to do this.
Because Sunspot is much less reliable. Think of it like this, with 3 criteria
1) How long the champion has to perfect block
2) What needs to happen for the champion to perfect block
3) Are there any outside factors that can stop the perfect block

1) Sunspot has 5 seconds after basic attacks to perfect block, and 14 seconds after his SP1 to perfect block. Gambit has a few seconds at the start of the fight where he builds up his charges and then it is infinite until charging a heavy.

2) Sunspot needs to parry, gambit just needs to hold block

3) Sunspot can be stopped by a) running out of incinerates and b) if the opponent is incinerate immune. Gambit is only stopped by using his specials, and then you have 16 seconds to use them (while prowess lasts) before you can build back up to 100% perfect block. During this time you will be using a lot of specials, so little time for the opponent to use a special or attack anyway. Both champions will be affected by unblockable etc equally.

Gambit has a better perfect block in all aspects

1)Sunspot can perfect block for the whole fight if you use his rotation properly.
2) Parrying is one of the basic techniques of mcoc. So it's not like most people don't know how to parry.
3)You can keep your flare states low to maintain your incinerates and perfect block throughout the fight.
For incinerate immunes I agree but you shouldn't be using sunspot against them.
And sunspot has damage of a million suns so he will finish fights much quicker than gambit. So less chance of mess ups.
But yeah solely for perfect block gambit is better. But you need more than just perfect block for most fights.

Crcrcrc · March 2021

Sarvanga1_ said:

BitterSteel said:

Sarvanga1_ said:
If perfect blocks are such a big thing then where's sunspot kd. He doesn't even need apoc to do this.
Because Sunspot is much less reliable. Think of it like this, with 3 criteria
1) How long the champion has to perfect block
2) What needs to happen for the champion to perfect block
3) Are there any outside factors that can stop the perfect block

1) Sunspot has 5 seconds after basic attacks to perfect block, and 14 seconds after his SP1 to perfect block. Gambit has a few seconds at the start of the fight where he builds up his charges and then it is infinite until charging a heavy.

2) Sunspot needs to parry, gambit just needs to hold block

3) Sunspot can be stopped by a) running out of incinerates and b) if the opponent is incinerate immune. Gambit is only stopped by using his specials, and then you have 16 seconds to use them (while prowess lasts) before you can build back up to 100% perfect block. During this time you will be using a lot of specials, so little time for the opponent to use a special or attack anyway. Both champions will be affected by unblockable etc equally.

Gambit has a better perfect block in all aspects
1)Sunspot can perfect block for the whole fight if you use his rotation properly.
2) Parrying is one of the basic techniques of mcoc. So it's not like most people don't know how to parry.
3)You can keep your flare states low to maintain your incinerates and perfect block throughout the fight.
For incinerate immunes I agree but you shouldn't be using sunspot against them.
And sunspot has damage of a million suns so he will finish fights much quicker than gambit. So less chance of mess ups.
But yeah solely for perfect block gambit is better. But you need more than just perfect block for most fights.

Could you parry all of P2099's sp1? What about Doom's sp2? Or Apoc's? Can you parry those ones? Gambit's perfect block is 100 times better

Rasilover · March 2021

Fella really got ratioed to hell lmao

BitterSteel · March 2021

Sarvanga1_ said:

BitterSteel said:

Sarvanga1_ said:
If perfect blocks are such a big thing then where's sunspot kd. He doesn't even need apoc to do this.
Because Sunspot is much less reliable. Think of it like this, with 3 criteria
1) How long the champion has to perfect block
2) What needs to happen for the champion to perfect block
3) Are there any outside factors that can stop the perfect block

1) Sunspot has 5 seconds after basic attacks to perfect block, and 14 seconds after his SP1 to perfect block. Gambit has a few seconds at the start of the fight where he builds up his charges and then it is infinite until charging a heavy.

2) Sunspot needs to parry, gambit just needs to hold block

3) Sunspot can be stopped by a) running out of incinerates and b) if the opponent is incinerate immune. Gambit is only stopped by using his specials, and then you have 16 seconds to use them (while prowess lasts) before you can build back up to 100% perfect block. During this time you will be using a lot of specials, so little time for the opponent to use a special or attack anyway. Both champions will be affected by unblockable etc equally.

Gambit has a better perfect block in all aspects
1)Sunspot can perfect block for the whole fight if you use his rotation properly.
2) Parrying is one of the basic techniques of mcoc. So it's not like most people don't know how to parry.
3)You can keep your flare states low to maintain your incinerates and perfect block throughout the fight.
For incinerate immunes I agree but you shouldn't be using sunspot against them.
And sunspot has damage of a million suns so he will finish fights much quicker than gambit. So less chance of mess ups.
But yeah solely for perfect block gambit is better. But you need more than just perfect block for most fights.

I wasn't saying any of that to say sunspot is bad or can't perfect block. Your point was that why isn't sunspot there because he can perfect block. I'm just pointing out that objectively gambit is better in every way for perfect blocking. That's why KD rates him so much.

Sunspot can perfect block, but not as well or reliably as gambit. Yeah, people can parry, yeah people can keep incinerate up. But if you don't parry, and if you don't keep incinerate up, then you can get screwed. And gambit is much better at that.

Sarvanga1_ · March 2021

Crcrcrc said:

Sarvanga1_ said:

BitterSteel said:

Sarvanga1_ said:
If perfect blocks are such a big thing then where's sunspot kd. He doesn't even need apoc to do this.
Because Sunspot is much less reliable. Think of it like this, with 3 criteria
1) How long the champion has to perfect block
2) What needs to happen for the champion to perfect block
3) Are there any outside factors that can stop the perfect block

1) Sunspot has 5 seconds after basic attacks to perfect block, and 14 seconds after his SP1 to perfect block. Gambit has a few seconds at the start of the fight where he builds up his charges and then it is infinite until charging a heavy.

2) Sunspot needs to parry, gambit just needs to hold block

3) Sunspot can be stopped by a) running out of incinerates and b) if the opponent is incinerate immune. Gambit is only stopped by using his specials, and then you have 16 seconds to use them (while prowess lasts) before you can build back up to 100% perfect block. During this time you will be using a lot of specials, so little time for the opponent to use a special or attack anyway. Both champions will be affected by unblockable etc equally.

Gambit has a better perfect block in all aspects
1)Sunspot can perfect block for the whole fight if you use his rotation properly.
2) Parrying is one of the basic techniques of mcoc. So it's not like most people don't know how to parry.
3)You can keep your flare states low to maintain your incinerates and perfect block throughout the fight.
For incinerate immunes I agree but you shouldn't be using sunspot against them.
And sunspot has damage of a million suns so he will finish fights much quicker than gambit. So less chance of mess ups.
But yeah solely for perfect block gambit is better. But you need more than just perfect block for most fights.
Could you parry all of P2099's sp1? What about Doom's sp2? Or Apoc's? Can you parry those ones? Gambit's perfect block is 100 times better

Yes. He can do all of these.

Sarvanga1_ · March 2021

I know most of the people who bash sunspot don't know how he works.

KDSuperFlash10 · March 2021

Sarvanga1_ said:

Crcrcrc said:

Sarvanga1_ said:

BitterSteel said:

Sarvanga1_ said:
If perfect blocks are such a big thing then where's sunspot kd. He doesn't even need apoc to do this.
Because Sunspot is much less reliable. Think of it like this, with 3 criteria
1) How long the champion has to perfect block
2) What needs to happen for the champion to perfect block
3) Are there any outside factors that can stop the perfect block

1) Sunspot has 5 seconds after basic attacks to perfect block, and 14 seconds after his SP1 to perfect block. Gambit has a few seconds at the start of the fight where he builds up his charges and then it is infinite until charging a heavy.

2) Sunspot needs to parry, gambit just needs to hold block

3) Sunspot can be stopped by a) running out of incinerates and b) if the opponent is incinerate immune. Gambit is only stopped by using his specials, and then you have 16 seconds to use them (while prowess lasts) before you can build back up to 100% perfect block. During this time you will be using a lot of specials, so little time for the opponent to use a special or attack anyway. Both champions will be affected by unblockable etc equally.

Gambit has a better perfect block in all aspects
1)Sunspot can perfect block for the whole fight if you use his rotation properly.
2) Parrying is one of the basic techniques of mcoc. So it's not like most people don't know how to parry.
3)You can keep your flare states low to maintain your incinerates and perfect block throughout the fight.
For incinerate immunes I agree but you shouldn't be using sunspot against them.
And sunspot has damage of a million suns so he will finish fights much quicker than gambit. So less chance of mess ups.
But yeah solely for perfect block gambit is better. But you need more than just perfect block for most fights.
Could you parry all of P2099's sp1? What about Doom's sp2? Or Apoc's? Can you parry those ones? Gambit's perfect block is 100 times better

Crcrcrc said:

Sarvanga1_ said:

BitterSteel said:

Sarvanga1_ said:
If perfect blocks are such a big thing then where's sunspot kd. He doesn't even need apoc to do this.
Because Sunspot is much less reliable. Think of it like this, with 3 criteria
1) How long the champion has to perfect block
2) What needs to happen for the champion to perfect block
3) Are there any outside factors that can stop the perfect block

1) Sunspot has 5 seconds after basic attacks to perfect block, and 14 seconds after his SP1 to perfect block. Gambit has a few seconds at the start of the fight where he builds up his charges and then it is infinite until charging a heavy.

2) Sunspot needs to parry, gambit just needs to hold block

3) Sunspot can be stopped by a) running out of incinerates and b) if the opponent is incinerate immune. Gambit is only stopped by using his specials, and then you have 16 seconds to use them (while prowess lasts) before you can build back up to 100% perfect block. During this time you will be using a lot of specials, so little time for the opponent to use a special or attack anyway. Both champions will be affected by unblockable etc equally.

Gambit has a better perfect block in all aspects
1)Sunspot can perfect block for the whole fight if you use his rotation properly.
2) Parrying is one of the basic techniques of mcoc. So it's not like most people don't know how to parry.
3)You can keep your flare states low to maintain your incinerates and perfect block throughout the fight.
For incinerate immunes I agree but you shouldn't be using sunspot against them.
And sunspot has damage of a million suns so he will finish fights much quicker than gambit. So less chance of mess ups.
But yeah solely for perfect block gambit is better. But you need more than just perfect block for most fights.
Could you parry all of P2099's sp1? What about Doom's sp2? Or Apoc's? Can you parry those ones? Gambit's perfect block is 100 times better
Yes. He can do all of these.

All fun and games until Sunspot runs out of charges or incinerates

Crcrcrc · March 2021

Sarvanga1_ said:

Crcrcrc said:

Sarvanga1_ said:

BitterSteel said:

Sarvanga1_ said:
If perfect blocks are such a big thing then where's sunspot kd. He doesn't even need apoc to do this.
Because Sunspot is much less reliable. Think of it like this, with 3 criteria
1) How long the champion has to perfect block
2) What needs to happen for the champion to perfect block
3) Are there any outside factors that can stop the perfect block

1) Sunspot has 5 seconds after basic attacks to perfect block, and 14 seconds after his SP1 to perfect block. Gambit has a few seconds at the start of the fight where he builds up his charges and then it is infinite until charging a heavy.

2) Sunspot needs to parry, gambit just needs to hold block

3) Sunspot can be stopped by a) running out of incinerates and b) if the opponent is incinerate immune. Gambit is only stopped by using his specials, and then you have 16 seconds to use them (while prowess lasts) before you can build back up to 100% perfect block. During this time you will be using a lot of specials, so little time for the opponent to use a special or attack anyway. Both champions will be affected by unblockable etc equally.

Gambit has a better perfect block in all aspects
1)Sunspot can perfect block for the whole fight if you use his rotation properly.
2) Parrying is one of the basic techniques of mcoc. So it's not like most people don't know how to parry.
3)You can keep your flare states low to maintain your incinerates and perfect block throughout the fight.
For incinerate immunes I agree but you shouldn't be using sunspot against them.
And sunspot has damage of a million suns so he will finish fights much quicker than gambit. So less chance of mess ups.
But yeah solely for perfect block gambit is better. But you need more than just perfect block for most fights.
Could you parry all of P2099's sp1? What about Doom's sp2? Or Apoc's? Can you parry those ones? Gambit's perfect block is 100 times better

Crcrcrc said:

Sarvanga1_ said:

BitterSteel said:

Sarvanga1_ said:
If perfect blocks are such a big thing then where's sunspot kd. He doesn't even need apoc to do this.
Because Sunspot is much less reliable. Think of it like this, with 3 criteria
1) How long the champion has to perfect block
2) What needs to happen for the champion to perfect block
3) Are there any outside factors that can stop the perfect block

1) Sunspot has 5 seconds after basic attacks to perfect block, and 14 seconds after his SP1 to perfect block. Gambit has a few seconds at the start of the fight where he builds up his charges and then it is infinite until charging a heavy.

2) Sunspot needs to parry, gambit just needs to hold block

3) Sunspot can be stopped by a) running out of incinerates and b) if the opponent is incinerate immune. Gambit is only stopped by using his specials, and then you have 16 seconds to use them (while prowess lasts) before you can build back up to 100% perfect block. During this time you will be using a lot of specials, so little time for the opponent to use a special or attack anyway. Both champions will be affected by unblockable etc equally.

Gambit has a better perfect block in all aspects
1)Sunspot can perfect block for the whole fight if you use his rotation properly.
2) Parrying is one of the basic techniques of mcoc. So it's not like most people don't know how to parry.
3)You can keep your flare states low to maintain your incinerates and perfect block throughout the fight.
For incinerate immunes I agree but you shouldn't be using sunspot against them.
And sunspot has damage of a million suns so he will finish fights much quicker than gambit. So less chance of mess ups.
But yeah solely for perfect block gambit is better. But you need more than just perfect block for most fights.
Could you parry all of P2099's sp1? What about Doom's sp2? Or Apoc's? Can you parry those ones? Gambit's perfect block is 100 times better
Yes. He can do all of these.

Well I stand corrected. That's pretty good

KDSuperFlash10 · March 2021

jdeck59 said:
What's your in game progression?

85% explored Act 6
100% explored 7.1

KDSuperFlash10 · March 2021

@Sarvanga1_ Sunspot’s perfect block is great but it’s temporary and requires quite an aggressive play style. You need to make sure his incinerates and charges don’t fall off, or else you lose it all. With Horseman Gambit, you can just sit back and perfect block everything all day. I respect your opinion tho and understand why you’d choose Sunspot over Gambit, as Sunspot hits much harder.

My ranking of the top 5 champions in each class

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