I wouldn't mind doing the extra milestones on that 1-4* arena if the total units was the same as what I would have gotten from doing 2*, 3* and 4* basic arenas previously
I am an uncollected player and I am heading to caviler progression, I have to use more portions and boosts for my progression. I usually go for basic 4 star champ and 5 star champ in arenas to grind more units. Now I am able to get only 25 and 25 units for both arenas for 4 star champ I hav only 18 5 star champs and 1 6 star champ how can I able to clear all milestones. Pls kabam bring back 4 star champ arenas for grinding more units for progressive and free-to-play players. Pls look though this thread.
1. Below uncollected- new 4* arena 2.Below thronebreaker- new 4* arena and build a new 5* arena with mile stone achievable with 5* 3.Thronebreaker and above- 5*arena(talked in point 2) and new 6* arena but no 4*arena 4. Also an monthly event based weakly arena of 2* for all with no units. 5. For 5* and 6* arena grandmaster shards. For 4* phc in miles stone. 6. Incorporate 3* and 4* champs as milestone rewards in 5* and 6* arena. And 5* and 6* champs as rank reward just as now.
In this way progessing player (below thronebreaker) with small roster will be motivated to improve thier skills. And skilled player(thronebreaker) will not exploit units as they do not have 4* arena. Also it will give decent units for free to play players.
For 4* champs you can give tough Carina's challenges so they also remains relevant for skilled player.
I'm personally not in favour of the changes made to the arena structures. I made Cav very recently, and have just 6 6* champs in my roster. With my present roster, I'll only be able to get about 5-6 million over a 3-day arena grind. This gives me something in the way of 65 units. In the old arena structure, I was able to get all milestones in 4* Basic and Featured. This gave me about 270 units over the same 3-day period. The difference in units is personally huge. I'd prefer if we went back to the previous structure and just added 6* arenas on top of previously existing arenas. If not that, since there's an arena for pre-UC, Summoner Trials, can something similar be done for stages of progression too? Like for UC players, there's a 5* basic arena. For Cav players, it's 5* featured arena. And 6*s are opened only for TB and above?
Y'all have made arena grinding even more depressing!
Y'all release more and more Champs every month. For a FTP player, arenas is the only way to get the Champs that they desire. But the new arenas will only help the Whalers and endgame players with a really good roster.
Now, my suggestion is to add 5-star Featured and 5-star Basic Hero Arenas also so that FTP and average players get a chance to get the desired Champ. Make the game more fun and welcoming for FTP and casual players.
Thank you for giving me a reason to stop grinding and play less. My family loves seeing my face. But seriously, please just take away the death matches. Just dont let the difficulty increase. I have to face 6r3 with 4 stars. Thats unfair.
Yeah... Highly unimpressed by the new arena structure. As has been said already, more times than I care to count, the new featured & basic arenas are unreasonable for anyone without a developed 6* roster. That's thronebreaker content, maybe late cavalier, not uncollected. And the new summoner trials? Oof. New players will look at the arena once and never come back. Potential fix, without just returning to the old structure? Start by merging the basic and featured arenas. Stagger the milestone 3&4* champions, bring the final milestone down to 10 million, and double the units per milestone. Then, split the summoner trials. Nix 1*s from the 3v3 arenas altogether, maybe even make them the only ones that can be used in 1v1 quickmatches. New players (say, up to act 3 completion - whichever title that is) can use 2&3*s to get 2* crystals and premium shards from milestones, top ranked being 3* crystals. Upon completing act 3, unlock a mid-tier arena using 3&4*s to get premium shards and ultimate crystals, with 4* crystals in top ranked rewards.
Oh, and nexus crystals at least for the ranked is a great idea.
My results of my first pass in the Shang-Chi arena:
Used all of my 6⭐️ once (63). First few rounds to get to the 3x multiplier, I used 4r1's. First three 3x multiplier rounds, used a team of three 6r3 twice and a team of 6r2 once. Fourth 3x multiplier round, used 1x 6r2 + 2x 6r1. Win streaks 10, 11, and 12, used my 9-lowest PI 6r1's. Streaks 13 and on, used all 6r1's, starting at highest PI teams, to lowest PI teams. Haven't gotten any death matches yet.
Here is my unbiased opinion. I haven't read this thread yet, also I haven't ran a full 3 days of arenas to give me a true feel for what I have been used to the last few years. This opinion is just based on looking at the reward structure and it's hard to get a good grasp on things just by reading a chart, I'm more of a hands on type of person. That being said based on what im seeing im gonna get far less rewards for the amount of time I spend and my roster. I am thronebreaker and I have 23 6 stars. These arena seem to base the rewards off somebody having a stacked roster. I think new players, players who dont spend a lot of money, and people who dont do war are affected negatively by the "improved arena" personally i want more new players to join the game and continue playing and this doesn't help that. I dont spent a ton of money on the game but it's a big slap in the face to see this is how my money is being spent. I would rather the money be spent on fancy vacations lol. So my feeling is this is geared more at the big spenders and us little guys are feeling the negative side effects. My opinion may change in 2 days after the arena has ended but first glance is negative feelings. I would much rather have units than a grandmaster crystal. 2 years ago a grandmaster crystal would be cool. Unless you plan on tripling the rate we acquire 6 stars its gonna be 2 years before I can complete a successful arena grind. Also one thing I want to say is I understand you cant make everyone happy. Just because it doesnt benefit me, if more people are benefited positively this is a good change. I'm just one person in a huge player base. I fully understand that you have to do what's best for everybody, not just what's best for me.
Before it would take me 2 runs of my 5* R3 and up and all of my 6*s to get the max milestones in the 5* featured arena. Then run my 5*s in the 5* basic arena 3 or 4 times. While it’s still possible for me to reach all the milestones, it will take almost all 3 days of playing every refresh. While I don’t mind that, I couldn’t imagine those with a lesser roster. See the problem they are having the lack of 6*s. The fact that we need 16.5m for both arenas and both take 6,5,4*s is a problem because you have to choose which to use your 6*s in then it makes it unlikely to complete the other arena. I don’t know how you guys could fix this, but a few recommendations would be lowering the star levels for the arenas. Maybe 1,2,3 for summoner trials, 3,4,5 for basic, and 4,5,6 for featured. Of course this would require adjusting the milestones. Even if you make it easier for small roster summoners, I’m not sure how it would effect larger roster players because they are going to get the milestones regardless if it’s changed or not. I’m not sure how long it would take or if you all at kabam will even consider the criticism from everyone here. But I hope you all there read all these comments and try to understand what players with less rosters are going though. I hope we can find a quick fix that suits even players with lesser rosters.
I think the answer is progression based arenas. Finish Act 3 and get the 3* basic arena. 100% Act 3 and get 3* featured. Finish Act 4 and get 4* basic. 100% Act 4 and get 4* featured. Become Uncollected and get 5* basic arena. Finish Act 5 and get featured 5* arena. Cavalier gets 6* basic and Thronebreaker gets 6* featured. Milestones matched to the progression level. Just my thoughts.
Died to a death squad before hitting the second milestone with my 5 stars and I only have six 6 stars all at rank 1. I will not be doing this arena since I can't keep a streak. The points for 4 star were raised from 1,600,000 to 2,150,000 for an additional 5 units. So with maxed 4 stars at 3x multiplier would around 30k per series. Is roughly 18 additional series or 54 fights for 5 additional units compared to the old arena.
This change makes my 5 stars useless for arena, as well as my 2 and 3 stars that I ranked up strictly for arena cause I would have to be insane to try to whittle away points with them to earn scraps of units.
This arena structure is the worst of all. Earlier an average player can grind 100-150 units in an hour but now the milestones are so high and reduced units. Quality of life will be terrible. New changes should've give player time to relax but it's quite opposite, and IMO, it's quite annoying.
Just 3 months ago this was suggested as a new arena overhaul idea. It was completely different, bold, and probably would tick some people off, but it was at least well thought out. Instead we get hot garbage.
Easiest solution is to increase the multiplier: scores will increase enough that no one will complain about the milestones, battlechip increase, a little gold increase.
Also it’s about time to update/upgrade the arena crystal boost. ASAP
I get that arenas are changing but I still feel no one should have to put up 6.25 million points to acquire a 3* rarity of the newly released champion. Let's say if this month Shang chi wasn't available to everyone for free via the game inbox, then for someone to even acquire the 3* version of the champ, I'd have to grind a significant number to get to the 6.25 million milestone. Pls atleast try to address and change this
You should have an arena to be easily grinded with 3*, one with 4*, one with 5* and one with 6*, so all the roaster to be useful. As a rarely grinder of arenas, I can say this milestones are astronimical, as I grind for units.
You need to lower the cost of starting each fight from 250 back to the 100 it used to be for 4* arena. You are eating into the gold we can get from just the fights themselves.
I became cavalier just a day ago and my roster isn't diverse enough to use it in the arena . I liked the previous arena better because the milestones then were doable but now looks like I'll just be able to do the top 3 milestones . Well not gonna dwell on this much, I've simply decided to not waste my time on arena as of now.
Alright to put it simply, I don’t like new arena at all. Man, I was so excited. The grind has gotten way more difficult and more longer. The milestones are way too big. 1.5 million for a 3*?! Damn.
2 thing to impruve. 1 remove the help button because creates lag. 2 incrace the battle shards because even if you do all millestone in bouth arena 6* you only get 1 and 1/2 cristalls Arena thronebreaker..
This format forces everyone to spend considerable more time in the arena for units and BC, which was the main source for the average players to progress and buy crystals in the game. The move to this new arena format screams of wanting to push everyone to spend money to buy units from the store and eliminate a lot of the free to play aspect. If there's one thing people don't like doing in the game is grinding away constantly in the arena, and all this change does is make it more necessary. Change it back to the old format and find a way to include the 6* champ as a high milestone, or increase the point multiplier to 5x for all 3 arenas
Well, often, in the past months, Kabam talked about "Quality of Life" and this is a good thing. But is obliouslt that in this particular case, you haven't though about summoners life, because with this arena's structure, gamers have to spent most of their life grinding arena to get some units. I thing that the solution could be easy, keeping old structure and creating only arena with only 4, 5 and 6s.
New arena system is AWFUL!! Simply put, more grind for less units...TERRIBLE! I guess like everything else in the game lately, you are trying to make people spend money for units...but you will only succedd in making people leave
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2.Below thronebreaker- new 4* arena and build a new 5* arena with mile stone achievable with 5*
3.Thronebreaker and above- 5*arena(talked in point 2) and new 6* arena but no 4*arena
4. Also an monthly event based weakly arena of 2* for all with no units.
5. For 5* and 6* arena grandmaster shards. For 4* phc in miles stone.
6. Incorporate 3* and 4* champs as milestone rewards in 5* and 6* arena. And 5* and 6* champs as rank reward just as now.
In this way progessing player (below thronebreaker) with small roster will be motivated to improve thier skills.
And skilled player(thronebreaker) will not exploit units as they do not have 4* arena.
Also it will give decent units for free to play players.
For 4* champs you can give tough Carina's challenges so they also remains relevant for skilled player.
In the old arena structure, I was able to get all milestones in 4* Basic and Featured. This gave me about 270 units over the same 3-day period. The difference in units is personally huge. I'd prefer if we went back to the previous structure and just added 6* arenas on top of previously existing arenas.
If not that, since there's an arena for pre-UC, Summoner Trials, can something similar be done for stages of progression too? Like for UC players, there's a 5* basic arena. For Cav players, it's 5* featured arena. And 6*s are opened only for TB and above?
Y'all release more and more Champs every month. For a FTP player, arenas is the only way to get the Champs that they desire. But the new arenas will only help the Whalers and endgame players with a really good roster.
Now, my suggestion is to add 5-star Featured and 5-star Basic Hero Arenas also so that FTP and average players get a chance to get the desired Champ. Make the game more fun and welcoming for FTP and casual players.
Potential fix, without just returning to the old structure?
Start by merging the basic and featured arenas. Stagger the milestone 3&4* champions, bring the final milestone down to 10 million, and double the units per milestone. Then, split the summoner trials. Nix 1*s from the 3v3 arenas altogether, maybe even make them the only ones that can be used in 1v1 quickmatches. New players (say, up to act 3 completion - whichever title that is) can use 2&3*s to get 2* crystals and premium shards from milestones, top ranked being 3* crystals. Upon completing act 3, unlock a mid-tier arena using 3&4*s to get premium shards and ultimate crystals, with 4* crystals in top ranked rewards.
Oh, and nexus crystals at least for the ranked is a great idea.
Also 2* and 3* champs are now more or less useless for Arena...sucks to have been leveling those up specifically for arena now
Used all of my 6⭐️ once (63).
First few rounds to get to the 3x multiplier, I used 4r1's.
First three 3x multiplier rounds, used a team of three 6r3 twice and a team of 6r2 once.
Fourth 3x multiplier round, used 1x 6r2 + 2x 6r1.
Win streaks 10, 11, and 12, used my 9-lowest PI 6r1's.
Streaks 13 and on, used all 6r1's, starting at highest PI teams, to lowest PI teams.
Haven't gotten any death matches yet.
That being said based on what im seeing im gonna get far less rewards for the amount of time I spend and my roster. I am thronebreaker and I have 23 6 stars. These arena seem to base the rewards off somebody having a stacked roster. I think new players, players who dont spend a lot of money, and people who dont do war are affected negatively by the "improved arena" personally i want more new players to join the game and continue playing and this doesn't help that. I dont spent a ton of money on the game but it's a big slap in the face to see this is how my money is being spent. I would rather the money be spent on fancy vacations lol.
So my feeling is this is geared more at the big spenders and us little guys are feeling the negative side effects. My opinion may change in 2 days after the arena has ended but first glance is negative feelings. I would much rather have units than a grandmaster crystal. 2 years ago a grandmaster crystal would be cool. Unless you plan on tripling the rate we acquire 6 stars its gonna be 2 years before I can complete a successful arena grind.
Also one thing I want to say is I understand you cant make everyone happy. Just because it doesnt benefit me, if more people are benefited positively this is a good change. I'm just one person in a huge player base. I fully understand that you have to do what's best for everybody, not just what's best for me.
This change makes my 5 stars useless for arena, as well as my 2 and 3 stars that I ranked up strictly for arena cause I would have to be insane to try to whittle away points with them to earn scraps of units.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/252901/arena-overhaul-idea
Also it’s about time to update/upgrade the arena crystal boost. ASAP
If there's one thing people don't like doing in the game is grinding away constantly in the arena, and all this change does is make it more necessary.
Change it back to the old format and find a way to include the 6* champ as a high milestone, or increase the point multiplier to 5x for all 3 arenas