New Carrina's challenges thoughts?

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  • Zuko_ILCZuko_ILC Member Posts: 1,508 ★★★★★

    Hilldar said:

    Many of you should be embarrassed by your behavior. It’s optional content. The deathless piece is easy to get with one of the lags challenges. That’s fair of them to set it up that way.
    The rest of it is up to you. Is it hard? Yes. Are the rewards to difficulty in line? Absolutely not. Are the 7* champs you get at the end amazing, top tier champs? Not in my opinion.
    I did one challenge and I’m done for now. I don’t think the rest is worth it and am saving items and units for 8.4. That’s my choice.
    The whining and crying from a large chunk of this player base is embarrassing. The attacks on the creators is shameful.

    Grow up man.

    So that is the new standard for new content?..
    Base everything on the ability of acquiring a piece of a deathless champ?...Its gonna be a long long 2 years then...
    You only need to complete Lagacys challenge to get deathless groot. It's not hard at all. You can solo it or do it in less than 10 revives if you have average skill.
  • GreekhitGreekhit Member Posts: 2,820 ★★★★★
    Guys please do not derail the thread the thread with personal attacks.
    It doesn’t add anything to the discussion, and devalues any valid point the involved forum members have.
    Keep it on giving the useful feedback needed for the game developers 🙂
  • Zuko_ILCZuko_ILC Member Posts: 1,508 ★★★★★
    edited February 18

    Zuko_ILC said:

    Hilldar said:

    Many of you should be embarrassed by your behavior. It’s optional content. The deathless piece is easy to get with one of the lags challenges. That’s fair of them to set it up that way.
    The rest of it is up to you. Is it hard? Yes. Are the rewards to difficulty in line? Absolutely not. Are the 7* champs you get at the end amazing, top tier champs? Not in my opinion.
    I did one challenge and I’m done for now. I don’t think the rest is worth it and am saving items and units for 8.4. That’s my choice.
    The whining and crying from a large chunk of this player base is embarrassing. The attacks on the creators is shameful.

    Grow up man.

    So that is the new standard for new content?..
    Base everything on the ability of acquiring a piece of a deathless champ?...Its gonna be a long long 2 years then...
    You only need to complete Lagacys challenge to get deathless groot. It's not hard at all. You can solo it or do it in less than 10 revives if you have average skill.
    Yeah you obviously don't know how to read...
    Apparently you can't read. You need to complete 1 of the CCP solo objectives to get the King Groot piece. Lagacys is easy. If you can't do that then you need to spend a lot more time improving your skills before attempting.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,369 ★★★★★
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    xLunatiXx said:

    @Karatemike415 seeing you scramble to justify the challenge just further proves the point that it isn't fun, and you know it isn't fun. If you thought you had truly designed a fun quest you would chill out and give people time to come to that conclusion on their own. Instead you're doing what Kabam asked you to do, damage control.

    Fun content doesn't need force feeding or explanation, it doesn't require pages and pages of convincing people to enjoy it. Fun content is automatically enjoyed, and people flock to it with excitement.

    Even if you think this content is fun, the majority of people who care about the game enough to come to forums do not think it is fun. I'm not even arguing that it is too difficult, it's simply lazy design that added absolutely nothing to the MCOC experience.






    This is hilarious.
    I’m not scrambling over anything - and I most certainly was not asked to do “damage control.”

    And I’m actually very chill currently despite receiving hundreds of comments over the past 48 hours of people calling me a “c*nt” over an optional objective in a mobile video game.

    If you don’t find it fun, that’s fine!
    I’m not your dad and I can’t force you to like or do anything you don’t want to.
    It’s an optional permanent objective geared toward the players who miss this style of content, and it was never going to be received well by “the majority.”

    I had a metric **** ton of fun doing my challenges - probably the most fun I’ve had playing this game so far, tbh.

    This may be a shocking concept, but the primary goal of the challenge objective here wasn’t simply “fun.”
    It was to create a very difficult challenge while still giving the tools to get through it without much item use.

    With skilled play & proper strategy, both of my challenges can be done in under 5 revives.
    Every character on the team has a specific role & counters the fight PERFECTLY.

    You may not like the objective - or be interested in this style of content - but regardless of that fact, the mark was met.

    Calling it “lazy design” is simply a lazy take.
    I do hope you had fun in the challenge you made. Or are you into sm ? 😂
    Fintech said:

    Rasilover said:

    I have no why people are dooming on the creators like they betrayed us or something 🤷‍♂️

    But they did. They knew what they were doing when they made the challenge and knew it would piss people off. Mike seems like his mistake was mostly in the ranking cost of his champs but Fin seems to have done this maliciously. His comment in the thread and the comments from those who know him seem to prove that he did his challenge that way.
    There’s a huge difference between being malicious and wanting to challenge those who seek an *actual* challenge. As i have said the difficulty level was an intentional decision by me for the purpose of creating an extremely difficult challenge that could still be conquered with skill above all else. I can assure you i did not make it just to annoy or get a reaction out of anyone
    For both of you, remove the 7 star selector, maybe the shards, just leave PFP or emotes and you'd have a much better reception.
    Can't have an event targeted at your friends the 0.1% and have exclusive rewards highly valued by most. Even if you claim it's "optional". That point seems to be ignored.
    You guys open crystals by the hundreds so they may not seem much to you, but they are for the rest of us.
    Cause the way the whole thing was setup plus some of your responses really feel like you're standing on top of your golden palace talking to peasants.
    This is exactly my issue with them saying it's optional. They want to bring back this type of content for people who enjoy doing it? Sure, give them pfps and titles, no big deal.
    You can't however throw a 7* selector in there (with two insane champs btw) and then be like "but you don't have to do it"... Of course I wanna do it, I want that selector.
    Yes they can and they should. LOL has Ultron, Necro has Maestro, Deathless champions are locked behind various challenges. Just because you deem some barriers easy enough to do doesnt mean there shouldnt be harder barriers. A lot of people couldnt get into gladiator's circuit, a lot of people cant get Maestro and a lot of people wont get 7* Sparky, S99 or Masacre. The world wont end neither will your account
    Another genius who missed the whole point of my comments on this thread. I can do the challenges, I have a r5 ascended Zemo and three extra Zemos. I also have a Tigra and a JP I can rank up, the challenges are simply not fun in general.
    This is like the fifth time I've had to dumb it down for the nerds saying "get good". The difficulty isn't the issue, the issue is they feel more like a chore than a challenge, just like WoW Abs Man
    Maybe if you spent less time on the forums and more time practicing these challenges the difficulty wouldn't be too much for you to have them. If you have the champs you aren't gated so you can just skip them.
    I literally said difficulty is not the issue in the comment you quoted 🤣
    Do you read every comment and go:

    Or just upset about the panties in a bunch situation three weeks ago?
    You don't have to complete the challenge then lol. Skip the content if you don't want to do it. Crying on a forum ain't going to help lol. 😪

    You have the champs and the difficulty isn't an issue.....so I guess you have no problem with the content lol. So either do it or skip it. Lots of content isn't that fun. Not all content is made for all people. Now put on your big boy pants, wipe the tears off your face and keyboard and skip the content.

    You aren't providing any constructive criticism just cry baby tears and personal attacks against people. Grow up lol.
    Giving constructive criticism isn't really crying. Crying would be calling someone a misogynist because they told you not to get your panties in a bunch 😢

    Are you actually braindead my guy? I've said multiple times my issue with this type of content is it's not fun and the solution isn't "just don't do it". Most people are upset at the fact that they're releasing more challenging unfun content cause for obvious reasons they play the game to have fun, look at this whole thread and all the other threads about WoW Abs Man nobody's actually complaining about difficulty they're complaining about content not being fun... You really just read every comment and go

    Don't you?

    I haven't sent any personal attacks to anyone who didn't deserve it. Do I send a ton of mockery your way? Absolutely and I'm not the only one, that's the only use I and other people have for you cause you're not actually looking for a discussion (unlike most people)... You're a laughing stock who reeks of fake wokeness lol.
    Womp Womp! Content too hard for you so you flood the forum with tears. 😢

    You break forum rules and should be banned.
    So you're not actually going to reply to anything I said just re-release the first album for like the third time today? I know you aren't the sharpest tool in the shed but I expected more, that last reply was just weak and depressing overall.
    The laughing stock is the one spending all day on the forums crying about difficult content that was announced to be really really difficult by Kabam. 😢

    We get it you want the rewards without doing the work for them.
    You keep bringing that up but I've made it very clear that that's not the issue for me so I don't know what kind of response or reaction you are expecting from me. If anything, you're just proving that you are in fact unable to read a wall of text and understand what it means. You should stick to coloring books buddy.
    I'm not the one crying on an internet forum saying I can do the content but I just don't like it. Then why cry about it? Just don't do it. Kabam isn't forcing you. There's a lot of content I haven't enjoyed in the last 9 years but I still do it so theres no point to cry about it. I made the choice to complete it. You can't do it then don't. I already posted my constructive criticism about this topic to Kabam. They don't have to agree with me. But your argument is you have the roster and skill but you don't like it. Who cares what you like. Either do it or don't. Or sit in your room and cry crocodile tears. Choice is yours lil fish.

    "I'm not the one crying" when did I say anyone was crying... Are you 12?

    Uh yeah there is, that's exactly what the forums are for and as you can see there are 17 pages full of complaints as of right now. Do you even know what game forums are for? (Look it up, I don't actually expect you to know the answer to that one lol)

    What do you mean who cares what you like, that's the most important thing when it comes to keeping a game relevant Felicia, what the playerbase likes does matter and as you can see most people aren't happy. I swear it's like this guy was born yesterday 🤣
    Dude no offense but you come out swinging. Chill out a bit and let the discussion happen. This is like the fifth thread you’ve decided to cause problems on. I get you and the other guy have beef but it is literally a mobile game forum, let it go and move on.
    Four things:

    1. I haven't commented on five threads today, only three.

    2. Show me these other four threads I've "caused problems" on cause I don't recall having non-civilized discussions with anyone else besides this guy that's always starting **** with me for no reason lol.

    3. Why don't you tell him instead to not send personal attacks right off the bat cause I didn't start anything. He came in telling me to get good after I said that wasn't my issue, I'm just giving it back.

    4. If I really was causing all that trouble, why haven't I been jailed once in the past 8-10 months? Last ban? Over two years ago.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 4,325 ★★★★★
    Zuko_ILC said:

    Zuko_ILC said:

    Zuko_ILC said:

    Hilldar said:

    Many of you should be embarrassed by your behavior. It’s optional content. The deathless piece is easy to get with one of the lags challenges. That’s fair of them to set it up that way.
    The rest of it is up to you. Is it hard? Yes. Are the rewards to difficulty in line? Absolutely not. Are the 7* champs you get at the end amazing, top tier champs? Not in my opinion.
    I did one challenge and I’m done for now. I don’t think the rest is worth it and am saving items and units for 8.4. That’s my choice.
    The whining and crying from a large chunk of this player base is embarrassing. The attacks on the creators is shameful.

    Grow up man.

    So that is the new standard for new content?..
    Base everything on the ability of acquiring a piece of a deathless champ?...Its gonna be a long long 2 years then...
    You only need to complete Lagacys challenge to get deathless groot. It's not hard at all. You can solo it or do it in less than 10 revives if you have average skill.
    Yeah you obviously don't know how to read...
    Apparently you can't read. You need to complete 1 of the CCP solo objectives to get the King Groot piece. Lagacys is easy. If you can't do that then you need to spend a lot more time improving your skills before attempting.
    ROFL... That's what you got from my post?...
    Where did I say it was impossible to get 1 piece?
    Where did I say they were all difficult?
    You are definitely not the sharpest spoon...
    Let me explain it to you with watermerlons cause apples may still be too complicated for you.
    IF we keep on getting satisfied by just getting a piece of a deathless champion, it means ALL FUTURE CONTENT may be similar. Meaning we are just going to have to get satisfied with the scraps instead of expecting QUALITY CONTENT.
    So far we are missing 6 pieces for 3 other champs... plus the KG deathless pieces. Thats 18+ pieces of content some people may say . "Well.. you only need to do 1 to get the deathless piece... Derp derppppp"...
    Now read it 3 more times before you make a fool out of yourself for a 3rd time answering me

    If all future content is similar and you have to just complete 1 challenge that isn't crazy difficult then so what. Sounds pretty reasonable to me. Grind arenas for units stock up on revives and do the easiest one. Not that hard lol. You also can buy the missing pieces with units on a later date. So skip the content and grind arenas and stockpile units for them. Derp Derp lol.

    Now reread this even though you can't comprehend how reasonable that is. I spelled it out for a 1st grader could understand so you still may need help.
    Yeah cause my sole purpose of a game I have been playing for 9 years is a Deathless Champ rofl...
    So you are ok for future content to be terrible and only aimed to the 1% as long as you get a deathless champ? Rofl...
    You know whats funny? In a very short period of time.. they have used the same phrase..
    Necropolis - "It will be the hardest everest content"
    People passed it...
    Then they talked about WoW - "It will be the hardest content"
    Then the Challenges came up "It will be the hardest content"...
    Hardest piece of content doesnt have to be boring, and a resource dump where people have to run around ranking up champs they may use 1 time a year.
  • Zuko_ILCZuko_ILC Member Posts: 1,508 ★★★★★

    Zuko_ILC said:

    Zuko_ILC said:

    Zuko_ILC said:

    Hilldar said:

    Many of you should be embarrassed by your behavior. It’s optional content. The deathless piece is easy to get with one of the lags challenges. That’s fair of them to set it up that way.
    The rest of it is up to you. Is it hard? Yes. Are the rewards to difficulty in line? Absolutely not. Are the 7* champs you get at the end amazing, top tier champs? Not in my opinion.
    I did one challenge and I’m done for now. I don’t think the rest is worth it and am saving items and units for 8.4. That’s my choice.
    The whining and crying from a large chunk of this player base is embarrassing. The attacks on the creators is shameful.

    Grow up man.

    So that is the new standard for new content?..
    Base everything on the ability of acquiring a piece of a deathless champ?...Its gonna be a long long 2 years then...
    You only need to complete Lagacys challenge to get deathless groot. It's not hard at all. You can solo it or do it in less than 10 revives if you have average skill.
    Yeah you obviously don't know how to read...
    Apparently you can't read. You need to complete 1 of the CCP solo objectives to get the King Groot piece. Lagacys is easy. If you can't do that then you need to spend a lot more time improving your skills before attempting.
    ROFL... That's what you got from my post?...
    Where did I say it was impossible to get 1 piece?
    Where did I say they were all difficult?
    You are definitely not the sharpest spoon...
    Let me explain it to you with watermerlons cause apples may still be too complicated for you.
    IF we keep on getting satisfied by just getting a piece of a deathless champion, it means ALL FUTURE CONTENT may be similar. Meaning we are just going to have to get satisfied with the scraps instead of expecting QUALITY CONTENT.
    So far we are missing 6 pieces for 3 other champs... plus the KG deathless pieces. Thats 18+ pieces of content some people may say . "Well.. you only need to do 1 to get the deathless piece... Derp derppppp"...
    Now read it 3 more times before you make a fool out of yourself for a 3rd time answering me

    If all future content is similar and you have to just complete 1 challenge that isn't crazy difficult then so what. Sounds pretty reasonable to me. Grind arenas for units stock up on revives and do the easiest one. Not that hard lol. You also can buy the missing pieces with units on a later date. So skip the content and grind arenas and stockpile units for them. Derp Derp lol.

    Now reread this even though you can't comprehend how reasonable that is. I spelled it out for a 1st grader could understand so you still may need help.
    Yeah cause my sole purpose of a game I have been playing for 9 years is a Deathless Champ rofl...
    So you are ok for future content to be terrible and only aimed to the 1% as long as you get a deathless champ? Rofl...
    You know whats funny? In a very short period of time.. they have used the same phrase..
    Necropolis - "It will be the hardest everest content"
    People passed it...
    Then they talked about WoW - "It will be the hardest content"
    Then the Challenges came up "It will be the hardest content"...
    Hardest piece of content doesnt have to be boring, and a resource dump where people have to run around ranking up champs they may use 1 time a year.
    I'm 100% fine with content being difficult especially if they aren't going away. I can always clear it later if I want. I never did Carina 1. I didn't want to use 4*s again in LOL. I did it 1x didn't enjoy it so skipped it. Those rewards aren't worth going back in so I chose not to. I gave constructive feedback on my thoughts on this challenge. I think Kabam should provide the champs and resources from 1 challenge to the next. They can listen to it or refuse it just like I can do the challenges or not. But I'm not gonna cry about my feewing about what they put out. It's their game I just play it.
  • MotorolaMotorola Member Posts: 40
    Motorola said:

    KABAM PLEASE READ (Not a negative post!!!)

    I think that what is happening has a lot of players feeling like Kabam is trying to squeeze them for every dollar possible. I have a few suggestions that might help, I will list them below. Before I do that I want to mention that I have been playing for over 9 years and am Valiant but not even close to the top 1%. Also I have to give you credit for changing the things you have since the early days where it felt like Kabam was really squeezing players for money, Nexus crystals and many other things have helped with this.

    I think that Kabam puts too much emphasis on making money through revives/potions/energy/mastery changes/and other items that get players through content. I think that if you put more emphasis on making money through the ways listed below instead of making money when players fail, that the players would feel much better. I also want to add that I have no idea on the internal numbers for Kabams profits and where they come from, im just going off of personal opinion and others in the community.

    But the general idea that Kabam has to make money off players failing in the game I think is misguided. Take Fortnite for example, you can be the Best player in the world and not spend a dollar (or in game resource) on the game just to play, and they make Insane Money!!! It costs nothing to play the game, no energy costs to enter a match, no revive cost if you die ect. Obviously I know that there is a big difference between fortnite and mcoc, and this is a mobile game that is a different style compared to Fortnite, But there are some things that you can take and make your own.

    -make more money from cosmetic items, champion acquisition/rank ups, emotes/flex items/ And make less money from revives/potions/energy ect.

    -top 1% of the player base needs a challenge, so offer flex items like titles/emotes/badges/ect for rewards instead of champion specific selectors and rank up gems. The top 1% already has many rewards that the 99% dont have, look at AQ/AW, Battlegrounds, and other game modes and events that give the top players MASSIVE rewards.

    -make different skins for champions. Players would be very excited for a champion that does exactly the same ability, but has a different outfit/look. (the comics provide many ideas). You can also have rare skins that the top players can flex in battlegrounds

    -do more with relics. relics can give a champion a non gamebreaking boost. Making money off these and adding abilities that players can buy/earn. This is a less specific idea, but there are many things that can be done with relics.

    -look at other games (no just mobile games) and take something that earns money and make it your own in mcoc.

    -ask the mcoc community what type of things they would love to spend money (not have to spend money/game resources on). Take a vote. Have a booth at comic con for suggestions. Use forum polls.

    I love this game and many others do too. Im just saying that Kabam should shift the way they think they have to make money, there are many other ways. Honestly I think this game would survive with revives costing 10% of what they cost now,. And like i said I don't know Kabams internal numbers on the profits, but I know its possible to have a game where it doesn't cost anything to actually play, and make money on optional items/features.

    If anyone else has ideas for Kabam to make money in new interesting ways that show respect to the players please share and post them.

    -another idea is different/exclusive champion profile art. Meaning you can earn/buy different pictures for your champs, so when you look at your roster its the same champ but a different look.
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 4,713 ★★★★★
    Nah I like the challanges except zemo.
    For someone who have nothing to do in game, who just logs in to use energy and do 3 rounds of BG every 2 days, these challanges gave somthing to work towards.

    NAGASE just posted a Zemo run with 6r3 + 5*R5.
    @nagase you're the man 👊💪

    I'm gonna follow through with the same. Finally, I'm not obliged to r4 overhype good for nothing Baromid Zemidmo. Yay
    My resources will happily go to OGBW, cause I wanted to. Not because someone was compensating for overhyping a champ then forcing them to use.
    I'll gladly spend extra units on revives for this.

    This made me a bit relieved, shows not everyone want to waste resources on champs they don't like. Upgrading a champ to r3 is not even problematic anymore. All my champs I'm going to use in mike Avengers challange r3 except ogbw.
    I have plenty absolutely obsolete 7*s, the kings and queens of mid tier, wouldnt have minded pulling a 7* Hawkeye ngl 😆. He definitely comes handy.
    Thats another point I mentioned in some chat was that gauntlet is pre 6r3 content. Many players used 5*s back then. It can be done. With Revives, boosts, masteries, even class boosts. Planning is key.

    *Bad word with f* Zemo. Hurrrray.🎉🥳
  • MotorolaMotorola Member Posts: 40
    One example is the early access champion sales that give you the newest 6/5 star. I bet those bring in a lot of money. I know it couldn't happen overnight, but if the mindset changed at Kabam I think they could come up with cool ways to make more money and not even need the revives/energy/potions/ect to make money, The base idea is when you want the player to fail because you make more money, and if you change that way of thinking, then only good things can follow.
  • TrongNovTrongNov Member Posts: 293 ★★★

    Hilldar said:

    Many of you should be embarrassed by your behavior. It’s optional content. The deathless piece is easy to get with one of the lags challenges. That’s fair of them to set it up that way.
    The rest of it is up to you. Is it hard? Yes. Are the rewards to difficulty in line? Absolutely not. Are the 7* champs you get at the end amazing, top tier champs? Not in my opinion.
    I did one challenge and I’m done for now. I don’t think the rest is worth it and am saving items and units for 8.4. That’s my choice.
    The whining and crying from a large chunk of this player base is embarrassing. The attacks on the creators is shameful.

    Grow up man.

    So that is the new standard for new content?..
    Base everything on the ability of acquiring a piece of a deathless champ?...Its gonna be a long long 2 years then...
    But why do a lot of ppl here think they have to complete all those unfun challenges? Let's say Kabam fails to deliver the fun aspect this time, I do agree with that though then okay just choose the easiest challenge and grab the deathless piece and ignore the rest. Constructive criticisms are welcome, which can be done in 1 or 2 comments but many ppl here choose to spend all day complaining walls and walls of words. I mean is it really that serious, don't they don't have anything else more important to do? This is just a mobile game, this challenge is completely optional, if it's not fun then don't play it.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 4,325 ★★★★★
    TrongNov said:

    Hilldar said:

    Many of you should be embarrassed by your behavior. It’s optional content. The deathless piece is easy to get with one of the lags challenges. That’s fair of them to set it up that way.
    The rest of it is up to you. Is it hard? Yes. Are the rewards to difficulty in line? Absolutely not. Are the 7* champs you get at the end amazing, top tier champs? Not in my opinion.
    I did one challenge and I’m done for now. I don’t think the rest is worth it and am saving items and units for 8.4. That’s my choice.
    The whining and crying from a large chunk of this player base is embarrassing. The attacks on the creators is shameful.

    Grow up man.

    So that is the new standard for new content?..
    Base everything on the ability of acquiring a piece of a deathless champ?...Its gonna be a long long 2 years then...
    But why do a lot of ppl here think they have to complete all those unfun challenges? Let's say Kabam fails to deliver the fun aspect this time, I do agree with that though then okay just choose the easiest challenge and grab the deathless piece and ignore the rest. Constructive criticisms are welcome, which can be done in 1 or 2 comments but many ppl here choose to spend all day complaining walls and walls of words. I mean is it really that serious, don't they don't have anything else more important to do? This is just a mobile game, this challenge is completely optional, if it's not fun then don't play it.
    Oh ffs...ITS NOT ABOUT HAVING TO DO THEM, its about not having MUCH TO OTHER THAN this type of stuff, and IF this is what its expected from now on we are going to have 2 very long years until all deatlhless pieces come out and they have to find other way to deliver...
    Its says it right there
    "So that is the new standard for new content?..
    Base everything on the ability of acquiring a piece of a deathless champ?...Its gonna be a long long 2 years then.."
    Why do you guys keep on adding stuff as if it was a wish well?... One guy saying do just the Lagacy ones.. another asking why do people think they have to do all of them... People treat post like ad-libs
  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,322 ★★★★★
    edited February 19

    TrongNov said:

    Hilldar said:

    Many of you should be embarrassed by your behavior. It’s optional content. The deathless piece is easy to get with one of the lags challenges. That’s fair of them to set it up that way.
    The rest of it is up to you. Is it hard? Yes. Are the rewards to difficulty in line? Absolutely not. Are the 7* champs you get at the end amazing, top tier champs? Not in my opinion.
    I did one challenge and I’m done for now. I don’t think the rest is worth it and am saving items and units for 8.4. That’s my choice.
    The whining and crying from a large chunk of this player base is embarrassing. The attacks on the creators is shameful.

    Grow up man.

    So that is the new standard for new content?..
    Base everything on the ability of acquiring a piece of a deathless champ?...Its gonna be a long long 2 years then...
    But why do a lot of ppl here think they have to complete all those unfun challenges? Let's say Kabam fails to deliver the fun aspect this time, I do agree with that though then okay just choose the easiest challenge and grab the deathless piece and ignore the rest. Constructive criticisms are welcome, which can be done in 1 or 2 comments but many ppl here choose to spend all day complaining walls and walls of words. I mean is it really that serious, don't they don't have anything else more important to do? This is just a mobile game, this challenge is completely optional, if it's not fun then don't play it.
    Oh ffs...ITS NOT ABOUT HAVING TO DO THEM, its about not having MUCH TO OTHER THAN this type of stuff, and IF this is what its expected from now on we are going to have 2 very long years until all deatlhless pieces come out and they have to find other way to deliver...
    Its says it right there
    "So that is the new standard for new content?..
    Base everything on the ability of acquiring a piece of a deathless champ?...Its gonna be a long long 2 years then.."
    Why do you guys keep on adding stuff as if it was a wish well?... One guy saying do just the Lagacy ones.. another asking why do people think they have to do all of them... People treat post like ad-libs
    It hasn’t even been two weeks! We’ve had one (1) WoW fight that we have no idea if it’ll be representative of the difficulty level going forward (but reason to believe it won’t be because Kabam straight said they missed the mark on it), and now these Carina’s Challenges that were originally slated to drop back in October and are permanent so it really, really should not matter around what other content they release.

    I have no idea how you can say there’s not much to do other than this. This game is so full of content that I have to choose to skip stuff for lack of time. AQ, AW, EQ, SQ, Battlegrounds, Incursions, Arena grinding, and these are just the constants. There was Necropolis that kept me busy into January, 7 for 7 which I only just got around to doing, the Deathless Guillotine Act 8 challenge, and then on the horizon we’ve got 8.4 about to hit. Every single piece of content in 2023 and 2022 and going even further back was extremely approachable to the bulk of the playerbase, with only EOP kind of being a challenge but not really because you could just Herc through half of it.

    The last pieces of content that weren’t just an inevitability were either The Maze or the CMM Gauntlet Challenge (can’t remember which came first). I like looking at a piece of content and saying “I don’t know if I can do this, but I’m gonna try,” and that feeling has been missing for a long time until now.

    Now we get parts of two different pieces of content that ratchet up the difficulty and people are saying “WELL I GUESS THIS IS FOREVER NOW.” And yes, parts. Everybody seems to agree that Lagacy’s challenges are fine, and we’ve had like 1/8th of WoW so far.

    I’m not saying people need to agree with me or that this content is perfect. There are lots of extremely valid critiques I’ve seen on these forums (like including rank up gems for the champions in the selectors, that’s a genuinely good idea). But like, this is so obviously not “the new standard for content.” This is an anomaly. It is outside the norm.

    And, unfortunately, because of the grotesque community reaction, I would be surprised if we ever get challenge content again. If I were a Kabam employee in charge of WoW or the future seasonal content who saw the death threats and other garbage hate being directed to the designers of this content, I’d scrub the whole thing. We’re not worth the trouble.
  • CrcrcrcCrcrcrc Member Posts: 7,956 ★★★★★

    Nah I like the challanges except zemo.
    For someone who have nothing to do in game, who just logs in to use energy and do 3 rounds of BG every 2 days, these challanges gave somthing to work towards.

    NAGASE just posted a Zemo run with 6r3 + 5*R5.
    @ nagase you're the man 👊💪

    I'm gonna follow through with the same. Finally, I'm not obliged to r4 overhype good for nothing Baromid Zemidmo. Yay
    My resources will happily go to OGBW, cause I wanted to. Not because someone was compensating for overhyping a champ then forcing them to use.
    I'll gladly spend extra units on revives for this.

    This made me a bit relieved, shows not everyone want to waste resources on champs they don't like. Upgrading a champ to r3 is not even problematic anymore. All my champs I'm going to use in mike Avengers challange r3 except ogbw.
    I have plenty absolutely obsolete 7*s, the kings and queens of mid tier, wouldnt have minded pulling a 7* Hawkeye ngl 😆. He definitely comes handy.
    Thats another point I mentioned in some chat was that gauntlet is pre 6r3 content. Many players used 5*s back then. It can be done. With Revives, boosts, masteries, even class boosts. Planning is key.

    *Bad word with f* Zemo. Hurrrray.🎉🥳

    Not gonna lie to you zemo kinda goes crazy with the dps in gauntlet, I wasn’t really a zemo fan before but I’m getting some very nice damage numbers. You can definitely clear it comfortably at r3 with boosts, but I’m taking mine all the way up.
    (no mike did not pay me to say this)
  • AntsiouAntsiou Member Posts: 184 ★★
    One aspect that’s being brought up most of the time, is whom this challenge is targeted towards. It’s been stated more than once that’s it’s for top players wanting (very) hard content. “Not everyone can (or should) do it” as been used as one of the main arguments to explain why those challenges are the way they are.
    But, when communicating the event here https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/359998/challenging-new-carina-s-challenges-are-coming-your-way/p1
    Kabam writes:
    This means one of two things:
    Either the challenges were not tuned correctly since “Many” don’t seem to be able to tackles such hard content (I’m one of them).
    Or “Many” refers to the target group of top players, and Kabam thinks they won’t be able to complete it. Which we can all agree isn’t going to happen with the top 1% ( to use that term).
    If communication had been clearer: super hard content for the super sweaty. Maybe most would have looked at it differently. Either passing it altogether or saying: dang, I’ll give it a go anyway.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 4,325 ★★★★★
    Wicket329 said:

    TrongNov said:

    Hilldar said:

    Many of you should be embarrassed by your behavior. It’s optional content. The deathless piece is easy to get with one of the lags challenges. That’s fair of them to set it up that way.
    The rest of it is up to you. Is it hard? Yes. Are the rewards to difficulty in line? Absolutely not. Are the 7* champs you get at the end amazing, top tier champs? Not in my opinion.
    I did one challenge and I’m done for now. I don’t think the rest is worth it and am saving items and units for 8.4. That’s my choice.
    The whining and crying from a large chunk of this player base is embarrassing. The attacks on the creators is shameful.

    Grow up man.

    So that is the new standard for new content?..
    Base everything on the ability of acquiring a piece of a deathless champ?...Its gonna be a long long 2 years then...
    But why do a lot of ppl here think they have to complete all those unfun challenges? Let's say Kabam fails to deliver the fun aspect this time, I do agree with that though then okay just choose the easiest challenge and grab the deathless piece and ignore the rest. Constructive criticisms are welcome, which can be done in 1 or 2 comments but many ppl here choose to spend all day complaining walls and walls of words. I mean is it really that serious, don't they don't have anything else more important to do? This is just a mobile game, this challenge is completely optional, if it's not fun then don't play it.
    Oh ffs...ITS NOT ABOUT HAVING TO DO THEM, its about not having MUCH TO OTHER THAN this type of stuff, and IF this is what its expected from now on we are going to have 2 very long years until all deatlhless pieces come out and they have to find other way to deliver...
    Its says it right there
    "So that is the new standard for new content?..
    Base everything on the ability of acquiring a piece of a deathless champ?...Its gonna be a long long 2 years then.."
    Why do you guys keep on adding stuff as if it was a wish well?... One guy saying do just the Lagacy ones.. another asking why do people think they have to do all of them... People treat post like ad-libs
    It hasn’t even been two weeks! We’ve had one (1) WoW fight that we have no idea if it’ll be representative of the difficulty level going forward (but reason to believe it won’t be because Kabam straight said they missed the mark on it), and now these Carina’s Challenges that were originally slated to drop back in October and are permanent so it really, really should not matter around what other content they release.

    I have no idea how you can say there’s not much to do other than this. This game is so full of content that I have to choose to skip stuff for lack of time. AQ, AW, EQ, SQ, Battlegrounds, Incursions, Arena grinding, and these are just the constants. There was Necropolis that kept me busy into January, 7 for 7 which I only just got around to doing, the Deathless Guillotine Act 8 challenge, and then on the horizon we’ve got 8.4 about to hit. Every single piece of content in 2023 and 2022 and going even further back was extremely approachable to the bulk of the playerbase, with only EOP kind of being a challenge but not really because you could just Herc through half of it.

    The last pieces of content that weren’t just an inevitability were either The Maze or the CMM Gauntlet Challenge (can’t remember which came first). I like looking at a piece of content and saying “I don’t know if I can do this, but I’m gonna try,” and that feeling has been missing for a long time until now.

    Now we get parts of two different pieces of content that ratchet up the difficulty and people are saying “WELL I GUESS THIS IS FOREVER NOW.” And yes, parts. Everybody seems to agree that Lagacy’s challenges are fine, and we’ve had like 1/8th of WoW so far.

    I’m not saying people need to agree with me or that this content is perfect. There are lots of extremely valid critiques I’ve seen on these forums (like including rank up gems for the champions in the selectors, that’s a genuinely good idea). But like, this is so obviously not “the new standard for content.” This is an anomaly. It is outside the norm.

    And, unfortunately, because of the grotesque community reaction, I would be surprised if we ever get challenge content again. If I were a Kabam employee in charge of WoW or the future seasonal content who saw the death threats and other garbage hate being directed to the designers of this content, I’d scrub the whole thing. We’re not worth the trouble.
    Really.. 2 pieces.... There is plenty to do?...are you really gonna include the most monotonous and repetitive mods like AQ and Incursions? EQ?...Arena?!... Yeah that's some really exciting stuff...I can't wait for tomorrow 10 am PST to do the new arena, I am looking so foward...
    The only piece that I might do with some kinda excitement based on the result of the tune down might be Raids; even that had a rough start didn't it? And what was the answer? ITS NOT FOR EVERYONE, and people defended that idea EVEN with bugs that reset charges. So i guess its not just 2 things in 2 weeks...also lets not pretend that this things are prepared 1 week in advance. This content has been prepared and ready for a while and now is being tuned. Some people even said that this challenges were supposed to be out back in October and looking at the rewards, it makes total sense. They even admited having to "change" something comming up due to the backlash on this challenges...
    You can tell there is plenty to do (lol) to a 1-2 maybe even a 3 year player.. I got close 9... Expect me to get excited for every Arena, AQ rotation?.. Enjoy AW with a completely busted tactic (which was tuned down as well if I am not wrong)...
    Yay lets do another 25 rooms of sector 6...get me 400k artifacts to get me another crystal with a pool of 5 or 6 champs..
    You really believe that there is PLENTY to do... Good for you
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 4,325 ★★★★★
    Crcrcrc said:

    Wicket329 said:

    TrongNov said:

    Hilldar said:

    Many of you should be embarrassed by your behavior. It’s optional content. The deathless piece is easy to get with one of the lags challenges. That’s fair of them to set it up that way.
    The rest of it is up to you. Is it hard? Yes. Are the rewards to difficulty in line? Absolutely not. Are the 7* champs you get at the end amazing, top tier champs? Not in my opinion.
    I did one challenge and I’m done for now. I don’t think the rest is worth it and am saving items and units for 8.4. That’s my choice.
    The whining and crying from a large chunk of this player base is embarrassing. The attacks on the creators is shameful.

    Grow up man.

    So that is the new standard for new content?..
    Base everything on the ability of acquiring a piece of a deathless champ?...Its gonna be a long long 2 years then...
    But why do a lot of ppl here think they have to complete all those unfun challenges? Let's say Kabam fails to deliver the fun aspect this time, I do agree with that though then okay just choose the easiest challenge and grab the deathless piece and ignore the rest. Constructive criticisms are welcome, which can be done in 1 or 2 comments but many ppl here choose to spend all day complaining walls and walls of words. I mean is it really that serious, don't they don't have anything else more important to do? This is just a mobile game, this challenge is completely optional, if it's not fun then don't play it.
    Oh ffs...ITS NOT ABOUT HAVING TO DO THEM, its about not having MUCH TO OTHER THAN this type of stuff, and IF this is what its expected from now on we are going to have 2 very long years until all deatlhless pieces come out and they have to find other way to deliver...
    Its says it right there
    "So that is the new standard for new content?..
    Base everything on the ability of acquiring a piece of a deathless champ?...Its gonna be a long long 2 years then.."
    Why do you guys keep on adding stuff as if it was a wish well?... One guy saying do just the Lagacy ones.. another asking why do people think they have to do all of them... People treat post like ad-libs
    It hasn’t even been two weeks! We’ve had one (1) WoW fight that we have no idea if it’ll be representative of the difficulty level going forward (but reason to believe it won’t be because Kabam straight said they missed the mark on it), and now these Carina’s Challenges that were originally slated to drop back in October and are permanent so it really, really should not matter around what other content they release.

    I have no idea how you can say there’s not much to do other than this. This game is so full of content that I have to choose to skip stuff for lack of time. AQ, AW, EQ, SQ, Battlegrounds, Incursions, Arena grinding, and these are just the constants. There was Necropolis that kept me busy into January, 7 for 7 which I only just got around to doing, the Deathless Guillotine Act 8 challenge, and then on the horizon we’ve got 8.4 about to hit. Every single piece of content in 2023 and 2022 and going even further back was extremely approachable to the bulk of the playerbase, with only EOP kind of being a challenge but not really because you could just Herc through half of it.

    The last pieces of content that weren’t just an inevitability were either The Maze or the CMM Gauntlet Challenge (can’t remember which came first). I like looking at a piece of content and saying “I don’t know if I can do this, but I’m gonna try,” and that feeling has been missing for a long time until now.

    Now we get parts of two different pieces of content that ratchet up the difficulty and people are saying “WELL I GUESS THIS IS FOREVER NOW.” And yes, parts. Everybody seems to agree that Lagacy’s challenges are fine, and we’ve had like 1/8th of WoW so far.

    I’m not saying people need to agree with me or that this content is perfect. There are lots of extremely valid critiques I’ve seen on these forums (like including rank up gems for the champions in the selectors, that’s a genuinely good idea). But like, this is so obviously not “the new standard for content.” This is an anomaly. It is outside the norm.

    And, unfortunately, because of the grotesque community reaction, I would be surprised if we ever get challenge content again. If I were a Kabam employee in charge of WoW or the future seasonal content who saw the death threats and other garbage hate being directed to the designers of this content, I’d scrub the whole thing. We’re not worth the trouble.
    Really.. 2 pieces.... There is plenty to do?...are you really gonna include the most monotonous and repetitive mods like AQ and Incursions? EQ?...Arena?!... Yeah that's some really exciting stuff...I can't wait for tomorrow 10 am PST to do the new arena, I am looking so foward...
    The only piece that I might do with some kinda excitement based on the result of the tune down might be Raids; even that had a rough start didn't it? And what was the answer? ITS NOT FOR EVERYONE, and people defended the fact that idea EVEN with bugs that reset charges. So i guess its not just 2 things in 2 weeks...also lets not pretend that this things are prepared 1 week in advance. Some people even said that this challenges were supposed to be out back in October and looking at the rewards, it makes total sense. They even admited having to "change" something comming up due to the backlash on this challenges...
    You can tell there is plenty to do (lol) to a 1-2 maybe even a 3 year player.. I got close 9... Expect me to get excited for every Arena, AQ rotation?.. Enjoy AW with a completely busted tactic (which was tuned down as well if I am not wrong)...
    Yay lets do another 25 rooms of sector 6...get me 400k artifacts to get me another crystal with a pool of 5 or 6 champs..
    You really believe that there is PLENTY to do... Good for you
    I'm at 9 and a half years played right now, we have:

    1. WoW and it's objectives every 2 weeks
    2. Event incursions for free 7* shards
    3. A whole side quest to do daily
    4. All tiers of eq and the paragauntlet
    5. A set of carina's challenges to be practicing
    6. Battlegrounds
    7. Maybe just some miscellaneous practice, might help you out a little with all the complaining
    8. Any various permanent content you don't have at 100%
    This doesn't include AW, AQ, Raids, Arena for units, a daily run of the apothecary, etc

    Of all the months to say there is nothing to do you have got to have picked the worst one.
    1- completely Busted WoW fight.
    2- so they replace incursions and sprinkled something wow...
    3- whole SQ for doing daily... You mean the busted one with the disappearing keys?
    4- EQs are we even calling those content anymore?
    5- Set of carina challenges.. aren't we discussing this?
    6- Battlegrounds, outdated rewards not even woeth doing more than 48hr objectives.
    7- I'm guessing this related to the new Carina Challenges?
    8- just have a few paths of Necro and the reason of not doing it?.. They might even toss a deathless piece into it.. they said it wont be soon but there is 3 more champs to come which is a pretty long time..
    You are trying really hard when you put the apothecafy as a piece of content to do rofl..
    I picked the worst month.. I think half of the stuff you mentioned I can auto fight..
    Lets get more and more content to autofight!
    And keep on making content that is not for everyone..
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 4,325 ★★★★★
    Crcrcrc said:

    Crcrcrc said:

    Wicket329 said:

    TrongNov said:

    Hilldar said:

    Many of you should be embarrassed by your behavior. It’s optional content. The deathless piece is easy to get with one of the lags challenges. That’s fair of them to set it up that way.
    The rest of it is up to you. Is it hard? Yes. Are the rewards to difficulty in line? Absolutely not. Are the 7* champs you get at the end amazing, top tier champs? Not in my opinion.
    I did one challenge and I’m done for now. I don’t think the rest is worth it and am saving items and units for 8.4. That’s my choice.
    The whining and crying from a large chunk of this player base is embarrassing. The attacks on the creators is shameful.

    Grow up man.

    So that is the new standard for new content?..
    Base everything on the ability of acquiring a piece of a deathless champ?...Its gonna be a long long 2 years then...
    But why do a lot of ppl here think they have to complete all those unfun challenges? Let's say Kabam fails to deliver the fun aspect this time, I do agree with that though then okay just choose the easiest challenge and grab the deathless piece and ignore the rest. Constructive criticisms are welcome, which can be done in 1 or 2 comments but many ppl here choose to spend all day complaining walls and walls of words. I mean is it really that serious, don't they don't have anything else more important to do? This is just a mobile game, this challenge is completely optional, if it's not fun then don't play it.
    Oh ffs...ITS NOT ABOUT HAVING TO DO THEM, its about not having MUCH TO OTHER THAN this type of stuff, and IF this is what its expected from now on we are going to have 2 very long years until all deatlhless pieces come out and they have to find other way to deliver...
    Its says it right there
    "So that is the new standard for new content?..
    Base everything on the ability of acquiring a piece of a deathless champ?...Its gonna be a long long 2 years then.."
    Why do you guys keep on adding stuff as if it was a wish well?... One guy saying do just the Lagacy ones.. another asking why do people think they have to do all of them... People treat post like ad-libs
    It hasn’t even been two weeks! We’ve had one (1) WoW fight that we have no idea if it’ll be representative of the difficulty level going forward (but reason to believe it won’t be because Kabam straight said they missed the mark on it), and now these Carina’s Challenges that were originally slated to drop back in October and are permanent so it really, really should not matter around what other content they release.

    I have no idea how you can say there’s not much to do other than this. This game is so full of content that I have to choose to skip stuff for lack of time. AQ, AW, EQ, SQ, Battlegrounds, Incursions, Arena grinding, and these are just the constants. There was Necropolis that kept me busy into January, 7 for 7 which I only just got around to doing, the Deathless Guillotine Act 8 challenge, and then on the horizon we’ve got 8.4 about to hit. Every single piece of content in 2023 and 2022 and going even further back was extremely approachable to the bulk of the playerbase, with only EOP kind of being a challenge but not really because you could just Herc through half of it.

    The last pieces of content that weren’t just an inevitability were either The Maze or the CMM Gauntlet Challenge (can’t remember which came first). I like looking at a piece of content and saying “I don’t know if I can do this, but I’m gonna try,” and that feeling has been missing for a long time until now.

    Now we get parts of two different pieces of content that ratchet up the difficulty and people are saying “WELL I GUESS THIS IS FOREVER NOW.” And yes, parts. Everybody seems to agree that Lagacy’s challenges are fine, and we’ve had like 1/8th of WoW so far.

    I’m not saying people need to agree with me or that this content is perfect. There are lots of extremely valid critiques I’ve seen on these forums (like including rank up gems for the champions in the selectors, that’s a genuinely good idea). But like, this is so obviously not “the new standard for content.” This is an anomaly. It is outside the norm.

    And, unfortunately, because of the grotesque community reaction, I would be surprised if we ever get challenge content again. If I were a Kabam employee in charge of WoW or the future seasonal content who saw the death threats and other garbage hate being directed to the designers of this content, I’d scrub the whole thing. We’re not worth the trouble.
    Really.. 2 pieces.... There is plenty to do?...are you really gonna include the most monotonous and repetitive mods like AQ and Incursions? EQ?...Arena?!... Yeah that's some really exciting stuff...I can't wait for tomorrow 10 am PST to do the new arena, I am looking so foward...
    The only piece that I might do with some kinda excitement based on the result of the tune down might be Raids; even that had a rough start didn't it? And what was the answer? ITS NOT FOR EVERYONE, and people defended the fact that idea EVEN with bugs that reset charges. So i guess its not just 2 things in 2 weeks...also lets not pretend that this things are prepared 1 week in advance. Some people even said that this challenges were supposed to be out back in October and looking at the rewards, it makes total sense. They even admited having to "change" something comming up due to the backlash on this challenges...
    You can tell there is plenty to do (lol) to a 1-2 maybe even a 3 year player.. I got close 9... Expect me to get excited for every Arena, AQ rotation?.. Enjoy AW with a completely busted tactic (which was tuned down as well if I am not wrong)...
    Yay lets do another 25 rooms of sector 6...get me 400k artifacts to get me another crystal with a pool of 5 or 6 champs..
    You really believe that there is PLENTY to do... Good for you
    I'm at 9 and a half years played right now, we have:

    1. WoW and it's objectives every 2 weeks
    2. Event incursions for free 7* shards
    3. A whole side quest to do daily
    4. All tiers of eq and the paragauntlet
    5. A set of carina's challenges to be practicing
    6. Battlegrounds
    7. Maybe just some miscellaneous practice, might help you out a little with all the complaining
    8. Any various permanent content you don't have at 100%
    This doesn't include AW, AQ, Raids, Arena for units, a daily run of the apothecary, etc

    Of all the months to say there is nothing to do you have got to have picked the worst one.
    1- completely Busted WoW fight.
    2- so they replace incursions and sprinkled something wow...
    3- whole SQ for doing daily... You mean the busted one with the disappearing keys?
    4- EQs are we even calling those content anymore?
    5- Set of carina challenges.. aren't we discussing this?
    6- Battlegrounds, outdated rewards not even woeth doing more than 48hr objectives.
    7- I'm guessing this related to the new Carina Challenges?
    8- just have a few paths of Necro and the reason of not doing it?.. They might even toss a deathless piece into it.. they said it wont be soon but there is 3 more champs to come which is a pretty long time..
    You are trying really hard when you put the apothecafy as a piece of content to do rofl..
    I picked the worst month.. I think half of the stuff you mentioned I can auto fight..
    Lets get more and more content to autofight!
    And keep on making content that is not for everyone..
    Oh wow I’d love to see you autofight tb eq, or maybe a run of the sq, or maybe even incursions!

    And they’re not putting another deathless piece in necro. Don’t try to make things up to justify not doing the content you have available, it doesn’t make your argument look good.
    How do you know they won't?
    I said half of it.. you said all levels of EQ...I can auto all lower and even half of Cavallier...
    Who said I am not doing it?..
    I mean you call the apothecary content...I guess you got plenty to do...
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