Some of the options just don’t work. So why put them there? Just for a laugh to see people choose them, and chuckle as they struggle? Or to let us be the testers?
Personally, I looked at the entire lineup and thought “ah ok, so these people will be annoying with miss”.
Never even thought about iw and her stacked shield. No one did.
Finally got a workaround which was basically to use only one hero that we found worked well.
Ironheart shredded her.
Save up to sp2, trigger the raid charges along the way. And then when you trigger a raid charge whilst sp2 is available, launch it. So basically after about 30s of the fight, the shield is down.
It removes the entire shield, and you have 20s to do some decent damage and build to another sp2 to knock it off when the shield appears back. So rather than have to endure the entire fight getting the shield down, after the first sp2 it’s permanently down. Managed 12% in around 2 mins 18s.
Other heroes just did nothing though, so we soloed her pretty much with Ironheart, once we had full raid charges.
Just abysmal game design and planning. Having to bypass the normal raid system (cycling between 3 players) and just brute forcing the only one that works.
Surely this isn’t how you want raids to be played?
If it is, then everyone bring along an Ironheart (or other champ you found to be good), and 2 duds to make up the team just to get raid charge for her.
Killmonger with the prowess buff can't even do anything here. Her exhaustion debuffs reverse his power gain, making him unable to gain power to launch special attacks and therefore, unable to break shield in a proper time.
Just sucks that is yet another raid week ruined by incompetence from Kabam behalf ...
Lo and behold the tactician champions that can hit 12% on IW before rank 3. Quite the generous pool. Although indeed Adam warlock can hit the cap but he'll also get destroyed by ai 9/10 times. All for that 1 end fight screenshot baby
Had a teammate do a solid job with venom. I don't know about 12% but he definitely would have been close
This invisible women fight is just terrible. I’ve done 4 attempts when she’s the last boss and you have to punish special and heavy, and by the time there’s like 30 seconds left, I’m barely doing any damage.
Hood fight was easy and Prowler took maybe 2-3 tries before I was able to do max damage on each attempt.
But this Invisible Woman fight is ridiculous. Doesn’t Kabam test this stuff before releasing it to public?
Luke Cage cooks, mine is r2. I have her as the third fight in my line, with punishing heavies/specials as the mechanic I need to play into. Worth noting that for champions with ability accuracy reduction, it is possible to stop IW’s force field from reactivating that way. I cycle sp2’s with Luke to keep concussions up and it really helps mitigate the force field uptime.
From everything I’ve read, it seems that the problem is that for one reason or another some champs are just not good for the fight. I don’t fully understand what makes one work and another not, but I think we should compile a list of which champions do work so that people can be better prepared for the next time around.
Colossus with recoil can do it well (12% at the end of the timer) after the ramp. She actually heals with her debuffs, so I can enter the fight with small revive and get these charges for teammates.
Oh and maybe Crucible (but that reusing old contents, so any issue would of been fixed while back), and Necropolis (but I think there was a bug with Grandmaster when it was first released, correct me if I wrong), oh and...no..nope, so just BG Off Season.
If I find anymore I will let you know, but don't hold your breath 🤣🤣🤣.
There wad a bug with the rewards last month when it was first released. So, not that as well. 3/3.
Yes, we are at boss now.will hopefully clear him when next batch of revives come.
Both of you are enlisted for the next Grammy... What a performance!!!
So 2 out 20000000 got it...
R u salty that some people have been able to make it work and you can’t? Don’t hate on someone just cus they have not had the same issue as you.
It’s on Kabam… they made a change that wasn’t vetted until the broad audience got to experience it. Maybe direct this at them? There are like 2-3 champs per role that are good for this fight, which is ridiculous
Yes, we are at boss now.will hopefully clear him when next batch of revives come.
Both of you are enlisted for the next Grammy... What a performance!!!
So 2 out 20000000 got it...
R u salty that some people have been able to make it work and you can’t? Don’t hate on someone just cus they have not had the same issue as you.
It’s on Kabam… they made a change that wasn’t vetted until the broad audience got to experience it. Maybe direct this at them? There are like 2-3 champs per role that are good for this fight, which is ridiculous
Of course people can feel how they like about it.
But to reply like a d**k to people that have done it is just someone being a d**k.
Tell kabam what you think all you want. But someone is also entitled to share their experience if they did ok.
If people come here telling those complaining to “git gud” there would be massive backlash. Gotta respect peoples experiences good and bad
It’s a easy math, in my alliance, she has almost 200 million health on the third node, 2% is 4 million She triggers the shield 3 times per fight, it is 12 million health If this is not horrible enough, she is constantly invisible in the first one and half minutes
Yh if they don't take dupe off her we should all stop playing raids when she's on that's only thing they will listen to in my bg she was 3rd fight but I feel sorry for guys where was 1st fight and they can't even get a chest and roadblocked.
“They wouldn’t be dumb enough to leave a percentage based shield on invisible woman lol”.
This is an exact quote I made last week in a line chat. No more excuses. I want documentation proving you tested these fights before release. This is incompetence that dwarfs even the quicksilver/SW synergy debacle
I think that RAID would be doable for me specifically if the game were more stable. I'm taking the middle path, and we already lost all the Charges on Invisible Woman once. The reason was the loss of internet connection on my end. I lost a life, fine. But why take all the Charges?
Then my teammate lost all the Charges on Prowler on the 3rd node. For no apparent reason, without the game crashing or anything like that. That’s frustrating, especially when you leave all the revives there, even the ones you’ve bought.
The most frustrating part is that there’s no way to defend against it. Last season, we had a similar experience with Modok. If I remember correctly, we submitted a ticket, but no resolution came of it. And yet, it's quite a well-known bug that's been around with the RAID since the beginning.
Hey folks, the Invisible Woman fight is working properly. I brought this to the team for deeper investigation earlier today.
Her shield is normally based off of 10% of her health, but this version in RAIDS is actually tuned down to 2%.
Since you need to remove her shield before noticing any meaningful damage, it’s going to seem like you may not be doing anything to her. Once you build charges with your teammates, the shield goes down a LOT faster - and you’ll see the giant numbers that you’re used to.
That being said, these fights are open to tuning & balancing, so it certainly might be changed based off of feedback - but as of now, the fight is not “bugged” and the shield is reduced.
Is this intended? To have a small window for damage mid-fight, then once the shield is up we are back to no damage till the end of the fight?
Having charges and doing big numbers is not the problem is the lack of time to be able to get 12% out of her.
The amount of revives that are going to be wasted on her in the third node is gonna be wild , I could barely do anything in The first one 🤣🤣 Will be trying new options for her tho , hope it works
Bad thing, I have her on final node Fun times ahead of me. 😀👍
Anyone here please tell me how to do damage to prowler he is 2nd fight of third path i am using silk I have boost which give weakness to defender when you punish special or heavy also iam not getting any vigilance.
Hey folks, the Invisible Woman fight is working properly. I brought this to the team for deeper investigation earlier today.
Her shield is normally based off of 10% of her health, but this version in RAIDS is actually tuned down to 2%.
Since you need to remove her shield before noticing any meaningful damage, it’s going to seem like you may not be doing anything to her. Once you build charges with your teammates, the shield goes down a LOT faster - and you’ll see the giant numbers that you’re used to.
That being said, these fights are open to tuning & balancing, so it certainly might be changed based off of feedback - but as of now, the fight is not “bugged” and the shield is reduced.
Is this intended? To have a small window for damage mid-fight, then once the shield is up we are back to no damage till the end of the fight?
Stick to sp2. Sp1 are a complete waste unless you are running low on debuffs. But if you are, do short mm combos to get more debuffs up.
Fight should go like this for ironheart.
This is assuming your friends have got the charges up to 15 15 15. If you have ironheart, you need to be ready to solo invis woman and prowler for your teammates. Let them build the charges to max doing no damage.youll be going in when you can do max damage.
Parry, hit once. Remove the invis.
Part hit 5 combo, med ended to get debuffs up.
Keep triggering raid charge challenges depending on what section invis woman is on.
DO NOT USE SP1.
Save for sp2. As soon as you have sp2, trigger a raid charge and then immediately throw sp2.
This will clear the shield entirely.
This should take approximately 20-30 seconds, so you still have 2 min 30 left,
The sp2 hit should do around 2.5 million dmg for a rk 3 ironheart unboosted. If you have a rk2, use boosts. First two hits do 400k each. Last two hits do around 1.6mill combined , plus some little hits in the middle. Makes 2.5 million.
You then have 20s to do decent dmg with your basics. She will be hitting for around 100k dmg per basic hit. You need to keep applying debuffs , so med Enders to be able to ignore the miss mechanic if it returns. And you need to do 5 hit combos so you get back to your sp2,
This should take around 20s. When her shield returns, trigger a raid charge and launch sp2.
Rinse and repeat. You should reach the damage cap within about 2 mins.
As you can see, I hit the dmg cap after 2 mins 18s.
The special 2 was used mainly to remove her shield and also if I had decent power I’d fire again during the shield down to land a big hit. Basic hits did decent damage once it was removed. Timed out (hit the dmg cap) and got instakilled.
The 800k dmg was the last two sp2 hits onto her shield or her directly while shield was down. Basic hits were doing around 100k+ per hit.
After the first shield drop at around 20/30 seconds into the fight, her shield was never up for more than a few second in the fight, as I always had sp2 ready.
Having charges and doing big numbers is not the problem is the lack of time to be able to get 12% out of her.
The amount of revives that are going to be wasted on her in the third node is gonna be wild , I could barely do anything in The first one 🤣🤣 Will be trying new options for her tho , hope it works
Bad thing, I have her on final node Fun times ahead of me. 😀👍
I'm sorry. We sent our fireman to help the right lane since they have that horrid IW as the last fight.
We were just lucky btw. We took ironheart to counter miss, because there is a miss mechanic on all 4 nodes. We never expected invis woman shield to be an issue…until it was.
We just lucked out that she did so well vs the shield. Took a few failed attempt to work out that sp1 strat does nothing. It was the sp2 cycle that when we saw it, we thought…ahh ok. That’ll work. When we saw the shield drain from 100% to zero from one sp2…eureka moment.
We had a hulkbuster that did decent damage also. But ironheart did most of it. Thankfully with small revives so we had plenty to burn.
It’s a easy math, in my alliance, she has almost 200 million health on the third node, 2% is 4 million She triggers the shield 3 times per fight, it is 12 million health If this is not horrible enough, she is constantly invisible in the first one and half minutes
How we are supposed to do the fight?
Parry and do one hit to remove the invis at the start. It’ll miss safely and then trigger the 2s miss timer and after that the invis will expire. It’ll then go on cooldown so you can fight her. Repeat if you need to (if you don’t have a miss counter) when it returns.
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Some of the options just don’t work. So why put them there? Just for a laugh to see people choose them, and chuckle as they struggle? Or to let us be the testers?
Personally, I looked at the entire lineup and thought “ah ok, so these people will be annoying with miss”.
Never even thought about iw and her stacked shield. No one did.
Finally got a workaround which was basically to use only one hero that we found worked well.
Ironheart shredded her.
Save up to sp2, trigger the raid charges along the way. And then when you trigger a raid charge whilst sp2 is available, launch it. So basically after about 30s of the fight, the shield is down.
It removes the entire shield, and you have 20s to do some decent damage and build to another sp2 to knock it off when the shield appears back. So rather than have to endure the entire fight getting the shield down, after the first sp2 it’s permanently down. Managed 12% in around 2 mins 18s.
Other heroes just did nothing though, so we soloed her pretty much with Ironheart, once we had full raid charges.
Just abysmal game design and planning. Having to bypass the normal raid system (cycling between 3 players) and just brute forcing the only one that works.
Surely this isn’t how you want raids to be played?
If it is, then everyone bring along an Ironheart (or other champ you found to be good), and 2 duds to make up the team just to get raid charge for her.
Just sucks that is yet another raid week ruined by incompetence from Kabam behalf ...
Attempt 2
R3 venom
Hood fight was easy and Prowler took maybe 2-3 tries before I was able to do max damage on each attempt.
But this Invisible Woman fight is ridiculous. Doesn’t Kabam test this stuff before releasing it to public?
Luke Cage cooks, mine is r2. I have her as the third fight in my line, with punishing heavies/specials as the mechanic I need to play into. Worth noting that for champions with ability accuracy reduction, it is possible to stop IW’s force field from reactivating that way. I cycle sp2’s with Luke to keep concussions up and it really helps mitigate the force field uptime.
From everything I’ve read, it seems that the problem is that for one reason or another some champs are just not good for the fight. I don’t fully understand what makes one work and another not, but I think we should compile a list of which champions do work so that people can be better prepared for the next time around.
Colossus with recoil can do it well (12% at the end of the timer) after the ramp. She actually heals with her debuffs, so I can enter the fight with small revive and get these charges for teammates.
So 2 out 20000000 got it...
Don’t hate on someone just cus they have not had the same issue as you.
But to reply like a d**k to people that have done it is just someone being a d**k.
Tell kabam what you think all you want.
But someone is also entitled to share their experience if they did ok.
If people come here telling those complaining to “git gud” there would be massive backlash.
Gotta respect peoples experiences good and bad
She triggers the shield 3 times per fight, it is 12 million health
If this is not horrible enough, she is constantly invisible in the first one and half minutes
How we are supposed to do the fight?
This is an exact quote I made last week in a line chat. No more excuses. I want documentation proving you tested these fights before release. This is incompetence that dwarfs even the quicksilver/SW synergy debacle
Then my teammate lost all the Charges on Prowler on the 3rd node. For no apparent reason, without the game crashing or anything like that. That’s frustrating, especially when you leave all the revives there, even the ones you’ve bought.
The most frustrating part is that there’s no way to defend against it. Last season, we had a similar experience with Modok. If I remember correctly, we submitted a ticket, but no resolution came of it. And yet, it's quite a well-known bug that's been around with the RAID since the beginning.
Fun times ahead of me. 😀👍
That won’t do enough dmg.
Stick to sp2. Sp1 are a complete waste unless you are running low on debuffs. But if you are, do short mm combos to get more debuffs up.
Fight should go like this for ironheart.
This is assuming your friends have got the charges up to 15 15 15. If you have ironheart, you need to be ready to solo invis woman and prowler for your teammates. Let them build the charges to max doing no damage.youll be going in when you can do max damage.
Parry, hit once. Remove the invis.
Part hit 5 combo, med ended to get debuffs up.
Keep triggering raid charge challenges depending on what section invis woman is on.
DO NOT USE SP1.
Save for sp2. As soon as you have sp2, trigger a raid charge and then immediately throw sp2.
This will clear the shield entirely.
This should take approximately 20-30 seconds, so you still have 2 min 30 left,
The sp2 hit should do around 2.5 million dmg for a rk 3 ironheart unboosted. If you have a rk2, use boosts. First two hits do 400k each. Last two hits do around 1.6mill combined , plus some little hits in the middle. Makes 2.5 million.
You then have 20s to do decent dmg with your basics. She will be hitting for around 100k dmg per basic hit. You need to keep applying debuffs , so med Enders to be able to ignore the miss mechanic if it returns. And you need to do 5 hit combos so you get back to your sp2,
This should take around 20s. When her shield returns, trigger a raid charge and launch sp2.
Rinse and repeat. You should reach the damage cap within about 2 mins.
As you can see, I hit the dmg cap after 2 mins 18s.
The special 2 was used mainly to remove her shield and also if I had decent power I’d fire again during the shield down to land a big hit. Basic hits did decent damage once it was removed. Timed out (hit the dmg cap) and got instakilled.
The 800k dmg was the last two sp2 hits onto her shield or her directly while shield was down.
Basic hits were doing around 100k+ per hit.
After the first shield drop at around 20/30 seconds into the fight, her shield was never up for more than a few second in the fight, as I always had sp2 ready.
We just lucked out that she did so well vs the shield. Took a few failed attempt to work out that sp1 strat does nothing. It was the sp2 cycle that when we saw it, we thought…ahh ok. That’ll work. When we saw the shield drain from 100% to zero from one sp2…eureka moment.
We had a hulkbuster that did decent damage also. But ironheart did most of it. Thankfully with small revives so we had plenty to burn.
Parry and do one hit to remove the invis at the start. It’ll miss safely and then trigger the 2s miss timer and after that the invis will expire. It’ll then go on cooldown so you can fight her. Repeat if you need to (if you don’t have a miss counter) when it returns.