Alliance Quest Miniboss and Sentinel Refresh - April 2018 - Discussion Thread [Updated April 13]

Summoners,

We've just announced a small refresh of Alliance Quests that will start April 2nd. This will include new Minibosses, and a farewell to our Symbioid friends!

Read all about it, then ask your questions!

UPDATE:
We've just posted an update in regards to your feedback on Alliance Quests. This post includes some adjustments to Sentinels and Alliance Quests that will be coming with the next series (Starting April 18th). Take a look right here: http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/62626/upcoming-adjustments-to-alliance-quests-april-18th-2018

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RSoxNo1

This is the worst change to the game since the 12.0 nerfs.

oskuros

I'm share the disappointment of all those who wrote before I do.... and only want to say that I'm not happy at all whit the game right now.. those centinels are f.... frustrating .... so dame you kabam !!

SKOutsider

Having a few people walk from my alliance after AQ as they’re done with this game.

The time and financial commitments are just too much for many to keep up with now.

AQ is a chore. Many hits needed and the fights against sentinels take a lot more time and effort. We needed a change up but this was the wrong way to go.

Congrats to those that don’t spend much time doing this and don’t get hit, yet others have to take more time out for this game and considering that people often play in their lunch breaks this is very taxing.

When you have alliances crumbling it’s not fun. Extra time for AQ and many, many players spending pots on AQ from the glory rewards (I’m not one of them) has led to more stress in both AQ and war.

Patch 12.0 was a fiasco but this one choice has just lost a ton of spending players who are moving on to other games and has actually made patch 12.0 look fantastic by comparison.

I’m truly sickened by Kabam and their treatment of players.

Mods are on and closing threads, yet they won’t answer questions or try and discuss the issues at hand.

Whales may keep this game alive but there’s a time when they will turn on Kabam as there will be nobody left to ‘rule over.’

Kryptic81

This is just a way for kabam to increase their profits. I've dumped alot of cash on this game but i'm done filling their pockets. If i'm ko'd in the first section well so be it. If my alliance kicks me because i'm the first one ko'd well so be it. I'll just run eq and sq. And if that becomes to a point where i hate playing well so long kabam thx for wasting my time!

Dzsoz

So you are saying there is no change in difficulty, as all the champs are equal. In this case, I am looking forward to fighting Iron First, Kamala Khan and Iron Patriot as minis.

pseudosane

The sad thing is the recruitment pool will be dry as there will be far fewer recruits than spots to be filled since hundreds of alliances will have multiple vacancies simulatneously. Many players who have been doing 5x5 will not be happy doing anything less and will leave instead of stepping down to lower maps. Amazing that Kabam doesn't understand or care about the community they are tearing apart.

NinjaiX

Oh @Kabam Miike where are you? The MCOC community needs you!!!

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Carmel1

Mcord117 wrote: »

pseudosane wrote: »

The sad thing is the recruitment pool will be dry as there will be far fewer recruits than spots to be filled since hundreds of alliances will have multiple vacancies simulatneously. Many players who have been doing 5x5 will not be happy doing anything less and will leave instead of stepping down to lower maps. Amazing that Kabam doesn't understand or care about the community they are tearing apart.

To this point two conversations with friends from different alliances. One is gold 2 12 mil the other in gold 1 16 mil.

Kabam headquarter: "They are right. map6 is easier. let's add the sentinels to map6"

Jbwilde

This is the second worst thing you’ve ever done. Patch 12.0’s original release before you fixed things and compensated us being the worst. I don’t even want to play AQ right now takes way too long my whole alliance is burning out. Do something. At least make it free for a couple weeks.

Ripper4566789

@Kabam Miike AQ is Garbage. Ppl I've played the game with for years are stepping down or quiting the game. I refuse to spend money on this trash you have created with AQ.

Syndicated

Keep the sentinels, but nerf them, the playable sentinel is a trash in comparison, we don't need heal Block or power drain when you are in cover.

Bosley

As a 3yr+ player with almost a 700K rating, I'm quitting after this round of AQ cause of KABAMs nonsense. No more money from me suckers!!

Maklerka

Pure bs.... now we can't use bleed champs, deep wounds became worthless. There goes our time efforts and resources with the wind... again.
You nerfed champs to made the game more versatile... what about now.... we can't use most of our champs.
Great thinking, thank you!

Bosley

Also no moderator response in over 2 weeks is just pathetic. I'd even if erase my forum account (if I could).

Spart3n

Stop testing the changes on us. Roll back the sentinels and test again, this change is garbage. If you don't fix it soon.. well I guess I don''t care.. but my wallet is closed until it gets fixed.

kbean3

The sentinels were created for extinction of mutantdom
it seems it will bring down about 70 or more percent of low to medium/high average players of mcoc as well
whales will be fine, the rest will be scalped and be marked as exterminated, maimed, mutilated, captured and killed
very much in line with the days of future past story line

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Grønner

Plat2 player here, 1-2 deaths in all of season 1, have done 5 x 6 before, but I had to use items on day4 in map5. I mean wtf?! Get rid of this **** please, or increase the rewards.

MavRCK_

unavoidable damage - unavoidable abilities - unavoidable mechanics -- pls fix... and increase the gold a little pls

Thawnim

I have less and less of an issue with the Sentinels, but what really bugs me is the constant instability of the game. It crashes a lot all of a sudden. Not sure why, but it definitely does not make me happy when coupled with matches that are already harder.

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GroundedWisdom

NinjaiX wrote: »

The sentinels are clearly a cash grab because obviously Kabam don't generate enough money from us!

Miike's comment about them not being ready to make changes to rewards system does not seem very believable as they can clearly makes changes to the difficulty whenever they feel like. i.e. replacing Symboids with Sentinels can't be much different from change rewards x to rewards y, if anything it would be easier! And the content is more difficult because you can only use certain champs. Unlike the symboids you can use any class and still be able to get through. Now you have to be very picky with your champs otherwise you will get wasted, timed out etc. @Kabam Miike if you honestly think the content is not harder then I really would like to see fight a skill or mystik sentinel on day 5 with over 9k prestige. Show and prove to the community that the sentinels are not harder than a symboid and we will accept that we need to get better.

For too long know we have been treated like we don't matter and this takes the biscuit!

Get your house in order Kabam, and think of the end users for once!

End Users should be able to get past Sentinels. I'm by no means Top Tier and I'm adjusted fairly well.

legendsargon

Everybody I know will be wiped out of sentinel

Sgu

Well after playing for 2 and half years I am quiting after this quest. I could do 5x5 before with out using any heals now day 4 killed in the second stage. The sentinels are the worst thing since patch 12 and for me was the final straw.

Chickenmilker

The sentinels are a more difficult/annoying fight than any of the feature champs. KaScam is at it again. Too bad there isn’t a half star rating...

DNA3000

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This company is lucky, it has the most privileged I.P in pop culture and possibly gaming as a whole. Other than that, it seems none of the developers learned from the atrocity of 12.0. It's ironic, you tried to sell 12.0 as for the good of the game, for the health of the contest.

Sometimes I feel like you gave this game a terminal illness and since then you've just tried to mitigate the symptoms.

Regardless of the nerfs or the necessity of them, the game just hasn't been running the same ever since 12.0 and the difficulty never matches the rewards, if you are going to do something, do it right, not halfway and botched, like you always do... Don't spend or promote this game.

In some ways, this change is worse than 12.0. In terms of its actual impact on the game, its not a large change and players by in large will eventually adjust to the AQ change quicker and better than the changes introduced in 12.0. And I don't think there will actually be any mass protests over the Sentinels. But there is one important way in which I think the AQ change is a bigger problem. It makes players hate alliance events.

MMOs like this specifically encourage and incentivize player groups like alliances (guilds, groups, etc) because they promote engagement and player retention. The only reason alliances exist at all is because letting players group together in small groups where everyone knows everyone else and they can cooperatively work together on in-game tasks that are highly incentivized with great rewards in general makes people want to play more, and makes it less likely players will leave the game. That's why you incentivize alliance content. Its a direct tool to hold on to players. Every game developer knows this, or is supposed to know this. The one thing you don't want to do is add even a *tiny* amount of bad blood to alliance content that isn't necessary.

Sometimes it is necessary. But the Sentinels were not necessary. They serve no stated objective that has a higher priority than maintaining the engagement bonus of having alliance content in the first place. If even one player quits or is disengaged from the game because of this change, that's an unforced error. But more importantly, it probably suggests that a much wider swath of players just got engaged a little bit less.

12.0 made people angry at Kabam, and it made people quit. But it did not change the game in a way that made it harder to retain the players that were left. This change does, and it might have a measurable effect or it might not. But the long term damage to the game could be much more substantial than 12.0 was, because it plants a seed in players' minds that alliances are not about keeping people around, they are about pushing the unworthy aside. Someone should be making Powerpoint slides right now for a presentation at the next GDC called "why you should never do this." It is that obvious to me.

kbean3

This roll out is another way of Kabam telling us one way or another that AQ is not profitable for them, in fact they may have been losing money running AQ the way it had been running because people were not dying enough, people were not reviving enough, people were getting rewards and glory consistently week in and week out. Revenue was not being generated for the amount of server use AQ was using up. (At least that's my theory of what the company is thinking). Roll out the sentinels -- with one edit -- they suddenly staunch the money hemorrhage on their end and suddenly everyone realizes AQ cannot be won without cost. Apart from the weekly donations, people actually have to buy revives and a **** load of boosts and potions now just to keep going. Maybe a massive withdrawal is a strategic plan for Kabam in the first place, this is not too far fetched. If AQ is getting expensive for them to run they would rather sacrifice it. I think it is a terrible mistake and they have upset so many customers. It is a PR nightmare and no well run company would ever think of doing this sophomoric attempt at nickel and diming the loyal customers.

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