I don't like nerfs in general but the Scarlet Witch nerf at the time was necessary looking back. I ask Kabam just to restore OG Thor and Dr. Strange back to the way they were. Both of the champs will be fine in the current meta.
I don't like nerfs in general but the Scarlet Witch nerf at the time was necessary looking back. I ask Kabam just to restore OG Thor and Dr. Strange back to the way they were. Both of the champs will be fine in the current meta.
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Thor doesn't have much utility. Plenty of global nodes can stop Thor very easily. Any bleed, poison, incinerate, safe guard etc. Not a complicated thing.
There are a ton of champs that need a complete rework or a buff that have been useless for years, long before human torch was added. The rebalancing should begin with 2015 champs and continue in order from there. How’s Netflix Daredevil been performing lately???
En ves de hacerle mejoras a personajes nuevos,,..deberían enfocarse en muchos anteriores que son obsoletos en toda cuestión. Ejemplo. Rey grood,grood,iron patriot, hulckbooster, magneto, cíclopes. Ellos si necesitan mejoras. No sirven ni para defensa y mucho menos ataque,aparte que sus sinergias no agregan nada en oarticular
@Kabam Miike I'd like to tug on that thread @Kobster84 asked about, because I don't think there was a very clear answer.
If a champ is "tuned" downward, that is to say taking a huge damage champ and making him do less damage, what is the team's approach for summoners who may have already invested heavily in acquiring said champ, whether through Arena grinding (spending units) or featured crystals (spending units) each of which likely cost real money? Further to that, what about resource investments made to rank that champ?
I do appreciate what the team's goal is here, but 6 months later is plenty of time for someone to have acquired and ranked up a champ. To find out after that six months that he's going to be negatively tuned is a pretty big deal.
Does the game team have a plan for addressing those situations? I'm trying not to turn this into a rank down ticket thread, but I think the question warrants asking, and definitely warrants an answer, as it's a very real situation.
I can personally say that I'd be livid if Cull gets a negative tuning after I took him to 5/65 sig 200, and unfortunately that's a real possibility, as he's still inside the 6 month window you mentioned.
@Kabam Miike I'd like to tug on that thread @Kobster84 asked about, because I don't think there was a very clear answer.
If a champ is "tuned" downward, that is to say taking a huge damage champ and making him do less damage, what is the team's approach for summoners who may have already invested heavily in acquiring said champ, whether through Arena grinding (spending units) or featured crystals (spending units) each of which likely cost real money? Further to that, what about resource investments made to rank that champ?
I do appreciate what the team's goal is here, but 6 months later is plenty of time for someone to have acquired and ranked up a champ. To find out after that six months that he's going to be negatively tuned is a pretty big deal.
Does the game team have a plan for addressing those situations? I'm trying not to turn this into a rank down ticket thread, but I think the question warrants asking, and definitely warrants an answer, as it's a very real situation.
I can personally say that I'd be livid if Cull gets a negative tuning after I took him to 5/65 sig 200, and unfortunately that's a real possibility, as he's still inside the 6 month window you mentioned.
Thank you in advance.
Honestly a RDT doesn't come close to resolving that. Its because of that I dont think we'll be seeing down tuning outside of actual bugged issues like the last Cull alteration. The possibility crystal sales plummet once people realize it's probable that the money they've spent won't yield the product they paid for is too much of a risk imo. I also asked this same thing back on the first or second page and received no response so I'll be pleasantly surprised if you get one. This was my first thought and something I was genuinely concerned about since OP champs are the ones we go all out to acquire and then dump resources into, but after more thought into it it seems to me the idea of changing these champs has too much possible detriment to Kabam without nearly the benefit, but we'll see won't we.
One thing I wouldn’t mind possibly is if they balanced the champ in a way that makes them useful in other ways while nerfing other abilities I.e nerf culls damage with armor breaks but boost his crit rate for example
@Kobster84 That would be a reasonable trade-off, but it could still contradict why someone may have gone after a certain champ. To your specific example, someone may have wanted Cull because he is capable of such high damage output without crits because they're struggling with a champ like Mr. Sinister.
I mean, this could be a very good thing but am I the only one worried that this might turn into a “milk the whales and after we make a fortune on new champs, nerf them into the ground?” I don’t know what compensation you would give someone if that were to happen. If they shell out $1,000 for a champ just for the champ to be nerfed 3 months later what is reasonable compensation?
Ye I think they’ve wowed people by saying they are buffing torch and annilhus but I get the feeling namor cull etc are gonna be “balanced” when their time comes after everyone has spent
Don't think Namor needs a nerf m8, he is pretty balanced, his act 6 performance isn't the best, as for cull, I believe the payoff is too big to be honest, but I wouldn't nerf him, because why the hell would I like a champion to be worse? The more god tiers we have the better. Anyone who wishes for a nerf is pretty much only doing it out of spite in my opinion
That's good news but I think Kabam should be working on the old champs who are irrelevant now like Cap Ww2, Falcon, Jug, BP, Groot, Hulkbuster ect. Those deserve serious updates
What I don’t like is how they said they may alter a champ up or down I’m assuming this could mean a nerf which if you do this before they are released into the basic means you are pretty much changing it after people have spent
That is true but let's be honest champs like namor and cull do too much damage. Best to stay balanced
They have their pros and cons like any champ
Pros or cons regardless their damage output is over the top. No more champs like these and the upcoming sunspot. There has to be some sort of balance in the game
Try cull obsidian in 6:2 he’s pretty much useless damage output isn’t everything otherwise starlord and proxima would be the best champs in the game
Cull can handle 6.2 if you are patient the first fight. After than it can be a breeze. I'm just saying too much damage can imbalance the roster
You've definitely never used him in 6.2. Sure there are some paths he can cover if you're willing to keep him topped up with potions. For like at least 80% of it though, he isn't gonna do squat for you
Maybe you're just not good with said champ? That can always be a possibility
Ok take a 5:65 cull against all or nothing backblast Hyperion tell me how that goes
1 fight. Okay... and the others?
Take him against any of the DoT nodes, the nodes where you bleed through blocks, biohazard, freezer burn, against a thing, against a stun immune path, debuff immune, caustic temper, etc.....
This is just like saying people take non immune champs to said nodes Like who does that
What I don’t like is how they said they may alter a champ up or down I’m assuming this could mean a nerf which if you do this before they are released into the basic means you are pretty much changing it after people have spent
That is true but let's be honest champs like namor and cull do too much damage. Best to stay balanced
They have their pros and cons like any champ
Pros or cons regardless their damage output is over the top. No more champs like these and the upcoming sunspot. There has to be some sort of balance in the game
Try cull obsidian in 6:2 he’s pretty much useless damage output isn’t everything otherwise starlord and proxima would be the best champs in the game
Cull can handle 6.2 if you are patient the first fight. After than it can be a breeze. I'm just saying too much damage can imbalance the roster
You've definitely never used him in 6.2. Sure there are some paths he can cover if you're willing to keep him topped up with potions. For like at least 80% of it though, he isn't gonna do squat for you
Maybe you're just not good with said champ? That can always be a possibility
Ok take a 5:65 cull against all or nothing backblast Hyperion tell me how that goes
1 fight. Okay... and the others?
Take him against any of the DoT nodes, the nodes where you bleed through blocks, biohazard, freezer burn, against a thing, against a stun immune path, debuff immune, caustic temper, etc.....
This is just like saying people take non immune champs to said nodes Like who does that
No one with any sense. That was in response to someone basically saying he could roll through all of the available act 6 content and asked for fights he couldn't take
@Kabam Miike, what's the word on this. There has been absolutely no updates since you guys said you will be altering these guys in September. Well, it's almost the end of September and we have had many game update notices but absolutely none of them have given any more info as to what you guys are changing and when the changes will be live. I'm trying to be patient but even though I love torch and have my 5* at r4, I'm starting to be frustrated at waiting for more info as to that guy potentially becoming useful against non mystics
@Kabam Miike, what's the word on this. There has been absolutely no updates since you guys said you will be altering these guys in September. Well, it's almost the end of September and we have had many game update notices but absolutely none of them have given any more info as to what you guys are changing and when the changes will be live. I'm trying to be patient but even though I love torch and have my 5* at r4, I'm starting to be frustrated at waiting for more info as to that guy potentially becoming useful against non mystics
They said it would take 3 months. Why are you focusing on September?
Any update guys? I am waiting to see how ht will change in order to see if I awaken him or luke cage both 5*. Do you think I should wait or go with Luke cage?
@Kabam Miike, what's the word on this. There has been absolutely no updates since you guys said you will be altering these guys in September. Well, it's almost the end of September and we have had many game update notices but absolutely none of them have given any more info as to what you guys are changing and when the changes will be live. I'm trying to be patient but even though I love torch and have my 5* at r4, I'm starting to be frustrated at waiting for more info as to that guy potentially becoming useful against non mystics
They said it would take 3 months. Why are you focusing on September?
Because the original post I read, said reworks to these 2 were coming in September and it was mentioned around the same (if not long after) time as the oml/colossus rework. The way the post sounded was that they were working on both the buffs for these 2 at the same time and would be released around September.
Are you kabam miike? Nope... so you wasted your efforts. 😉
For those wondering, they made a recent post in announcements that basically says OML and Col buffs will be on schedule, but they will ask the community how they feel about proposed changes to Bugsy HT CO and EM in early DECEMBER.
I’m a little miffed that HT and Bugsy aren’t next update but that’s fine.
Are you guys able to give any indication of when these champion updates are estimated to be finished? Possibly in the November update? Or December?
Colosuss and OML are not considered balance change but a revamp so it's going ahead. HT and anni are balance changes with no ability updates just like CO, ebony, etc and paused as per announcement today. This pic is abit misleading.
SO, Annihilus is my top champ and I play him religiously. I may be the only one in the game who does. That being said KABAM I would love to test out new tweeks and changes to annihilus I know literally everything about his gameplay and annimation down to timing. I can help with it. Or not that's cool too.
It’s nice and all to buff certain champs but not others is a bit unfair, spider-Gwen and she-hulk got some buff while others didn’t, Old man Logan and Colossus got buff too (I guess kabam is rechecking to make sure buff doesn’t make them too op, like she-hulk rework) while others in the meh tier are still untouched. Iron patriot, war machine, Ironman og, abomination, miles morales, ironfist, deadpool xforce, and list goes on. They should get some rework and only thing is who comes first not who should be voted for improvements.
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Ejemplo.
Rey grood,grood,iron patriot, hulckbooster, magneto, cíclopes.
Ellos si necesitan mejoras.
No sirven ni para defensa y mucho menos ataque,aparte que sus sinergias no agregan nada en oarticular
If a champ is "tuned" downward, that is to say taking a huge damage champ and making him do less damage, what is the team's approach for summoners who may have already invested heavily in acquiring said champ, whether through Arena grinding (spending units) or featured crystals (spending units) each of which likely cost real money? Further to that, what about resource investments made to rank that champ?
I do appreciate what the team's goal is here, but 6 months later is plenty of time for someone to have acquired and ranked up a champ. To find out after that six months that he's going to be negatively tuned is a pretty big deal.
Does the game team have a plan for addressing those situations? I'm trying not to turn this into a rank down ticket thread, but I think the question warrants asking, and definitely warrants an answer, as it's a very real situation.
I can personally say that I'd be livid if Cull gets a negative tuning after I took him to 5/65 sig 200, and unfortunately that's a real possibility, as he's still inside the 6 month window you mentioned.
Thank you in advance.
Like who does that
I am waiting to see how ht will change in order to see if I awaken him or luke cage both 5*.
Do you think I should wait or go with Luke cage?
Are you kabam miike? Nope... so you wasted your efforts. 😉
I’m a little miffed that HT and Bugsy aren’t next update but that’s fine.