There's a significant problem w/ today's changes to the solo events. At some point today (ET) the game all of a sudden converted shards that I earned just thru the new solo events into solo & greater solo crystals! I typically opened the previous lesser & greater crystals as soon as I got enough shards to form a batch of 10, so I'm sure that didn't have that many of either before today. So how does it makes sense to not give me the option of using the shards I accumulated in the new events that dropped today so I could choose which of the 3 new crystals to buy? Now I'm stuck w/ a bunch of the lower 2 crystal types and I'm not even sure when the game will let me build up new shards that I can use towards the supreme crystals...
There's a significant problem w/ today's changes to the solo events. At some point today (ET) the game all of a sudden converted shards that I earned just thru the new solo events into solo & greater solo crystals! I typically opened the previous lesser & greater crystals as soon as I got enough shards to form a batch of 10, so I'm sure that didn't have that many of either before today. So how does it makes sense to not give me the option of using the shards I accumulated in the new events that dropped today so I could choose which of the 3 new crystals to buy? Now I'm stuck w/ a bunch of the lower 2 crystal types and I'm not even sure when the game will let me build up new shards that I can use towards the supreme crystals...
There's something screwy with the new solo shards. Specifically, there seem to be 2 separate yet identically named sets of Solo Shards. I have 2 screenshots taken less than a minute apart, on the same account
The first picture is of the Event Quest Completion solo event, which I presume started before the solo crystal changes went live. It shows 2,100 solo crystal shards which seem to be separate from the 42K solo crystal shards from events which started after the change went live. There seems to be no way for me to redeem the shards noted in the first screenshot, they do not appear anywhere in the crystal tab at all.
@Lormif By converting them for us, they're essentially forcing us to open the useless crystals instead of being able to convert them to the better crystals that contain useful resources (or let them sit in our inventory forever which is just annoying). When they update the basic pool of champions they don't auto-convert our existing stash of hero crystal shards into full crystals so we don't have access to the expanded pool, do they? So why do that here?
Because changing the composition of the basic crystal doesn't increase the total amount of rewards the crystals give, so on a normalized basis the crystal resource value doesn't change.
I don't remember how many shards I had built up, but I can work backwards:
about 1.3 million lower and 2.7 million of the greater. Allowing players like me to keep those and convert them to the highest tier solo crystal at the implied conversion rates (solo crystals 10:1, greater solo crystals 5:1) would have handed me about 400 Supreme Solo Crystals. I'm not sure why there are players out there doubting the fact that there are players who had tons of these: I actually opened a bunch a year ago: I could have had almost double what I had yesterday.
They would have been crazy to hand players like me hundreds of those. And for those calling Kabam "stingy" that's silly: Kabam gains nothing, and loses nothing directly from handing me 400 supreme solo crystals. It is all the players that didn't have massive hoards of shards that would lose out there. Those crystals originally contained a built in value that handed the players who accumulated them *some* advantage over other players, but not a terribly large one. The supreme crystal contains a much larger value, and thus a much larger advantage. It would be a bad idea to allow players to retroactively gain all of that benefit through years of crystal shard hoarding that occurred before the supreme crystal even existed.
The players who wanted to convert their shards, I can understand that. But framing this as a player vs Kabam thing is simply wrong. This isn't about what Kabam is willing to give to "the players." It is about how far Kabam should tilt the scales toward *some* players over other players.
There's something screwy with the new solo shards. Specifically, there seem to be 2 separate yet identically named sets of Solo Shards. I have 2 screenshots taken less than a minute apart, on the same account
The first picture is of the Event Quest Completion solo event, which I presume started before the solo crystal changes went live. It shows 2,100 solo crystal shards which seem to be separate from the 42K solo crystal shards from events which started after the change went live. There seems to be no way for me to redeem the shards noted in the first screenshot, they do not appear anywhere in the crystal tab at all.
@JumperAlpha The events that were already running prior to the changeover lists SOLO SHARDS which are still the “lesser” version of the old shards (note, only the greater versions actually had a qualifier name ie, greater, to them. The lesser were always just named Solo).
And so now the new system only has one type of shard, just called Solo (but is different from the old Solo shards). The new Solo Shards can be used to buy any of the 3 crystals (unlike the old system).
And similarly for @DaRealMcCoy , there were (are) some overlapping events today that some were started prior to the change (so still has old style crystal shards), at same time as some events that started later (which contained the new style). Shards that you were earning from the earlier events still went into the individual bucket style crystals of “lesser” vs “greater”. You thought maybe you were earning some of the new style, but some of those events today were still giving old-style (which got auto-converted to whole crystals, as per what was supposed to happen).
Let's get this discussion back on track Summoners! Keep the feedback constructive please
So... no more Duel Credits in the 7hr class arena battle? Mystic arena is coming up and the rewards are the same. Don’t get me wrong, I do enjoy the updated rewards but I use those credits for practice and for participating in duel challenges.
Are duel credits going to be something we can earn elsewhere? Or better yet, are there plans to remove the duel cost?
Moving on, I love the changes. Very happy with the new Events and Rewards.
I agree that converting older crystals to newer versions is not a good idea. They did not do that when they introduced new crystals for Daily and 4 hr log ins and not happening now. I don't agree that it would break the game though. If someone had that many crystals, chances are they are well into the 5 star roster and don't worry abt the small fish. I have 500 of these old crystals because I used to open them for item use events. I would have been much more critical if they had converted the old ones though. Completely FTP here so that no one accused me of being a Whale.
All is cool imo except for 4 star anything for cavalier players (like no one cares about 4* while being a cavalier and in most of the cases as an uncollected) and inability to convert current solo crystals into the new ones tho the latter seems fair enough to do
Anyone else not get rank rewards yet for the 7hr events? I’ve done both that have finished so far today and no rank rewards yet.
Edit: Nevermind, just saw rank cut off is higher than the last milestone so I didn’t hit that.
I might have missed it - where does it state in game that the rank cut-off is higher than the final milestone? My understanding is we’re moving away from 11-20% onwards for 7h solo events and will rank the entire pool of 100% players that hit the final milestone. Thanks!
All is cool imo except for 4 star anything for cavalier players (like no one cares about 4* while being a cavalier and in most of the cases as an uncollected) and inability to convert current solo crystals into the new ones tho the latter seems fair enough to do
I care about 4*s and I have 100%ed act 6, you are foolish not to. I love 4* sig stones, it gets all my 4*s closer to max and makes it so I get more 5* shards.
Anyone else not get rank rewards yet for the 7hr events? I’ve done both that have finished so far today and no rank rewards yet.
Edit: Nevermind, just saw rank cut off is higher than the last milestone so I didn’t hit that.
I might have missed it - where does it state in game that the rank cut-off is higher than the final milestone? My understanding is we’re moving away from 11-20% onwards for 7h solo events and will rank the entire pool of 100% players that hit the final milestone. Thanks!
Okay I see it now, circled in yellow:
Even then, I scored 47k in the first Skill Combat event but failed to receive any ranked rewards. Pretty odd, will file a bug report if it happens again for the current Class Combat event.
And similarly for @DaRealMcCoy , there were (are) some overlapping events today that some were started prior to the change (so still has old style crystal shards), at same time as some events that started later (which contained the new style). Shards that you were earning from the earlier events still went into the individual bucket style crystals of “lesser” vs “greater”. You thought maybe you were earning some of the new style, but some of those events today were still giving old-style (which got auto-converted to whole crystals, as per what was supposed to happen).
Just to be clear, like the OP said in this thread: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/1427670#Comment_1427670, after the new solo events went live yesterday, Kabam swept up all of my new 'solo' shards & converted them into solo & greater solo crystals. Unfortunately I don't have screenshots b/c of course I had no idea to expect that to happen! After clearing all of the new Hero Use milestones and most of the ones for the new Combat event, I had a bunch of the new shards and they were available to purchase any of the new 3 types of crystals. Then several hours later I checked my crystal vault & to my surprise all of those brand new shards had been converted into the lower 2 crystal types. This is not cool at all...
I just watched proff hoff get 11%-20% reward for mystic arena - I did 1-10% but I still have the old rewards and he had a selector? My game is updated so I'm not sure what the issue is.
Yes I'm uncollected & cavalier and have 100% of content completed.
Let's get this discussion back on track Summoners! Keep the feedback constructive please
So... no more Duel Credits in the 7hr class arena battle? Mystic arena is coming up and the rewards are the same. Don’t get me wrong, I do enjoy the updated rewards but I use those credits for practice and for participating in duel challenges.
Are duel credits going to be something we can earn elsewhere? Or better yet, are there plans to remove the duel cost?
Imo, duel credits should be scrapped completely and duels should be made free. Or at least have the limit increased. 5 per day is barely anything if it's for the purpose of practice.
Especially when it comes to things like 36 hero fights for a locker key and I dont feel like doing arena or quests because I'm already done lol.
Let's get this discussion back on track Summoners! Keep the feedback constructive please
So... no more Duel Credits in the 7hr class arena battle? Mystic arena is coming up and the rewards are the same. Don’t get me wrong, I do enjoy the updated rewards but I use those credits for practice and for participating in duel challenges.
Are duel credits going to be something we can earn elsewhere? Or better yet, are there plans to remove the duel cost?
Imo, duel credits should be scrapped completely and duels should be made free. Or at least have the limit increased. 5 per day is barely anything if it's for the purpose of practice.
Especially when it comes to things like 36 hero fights for a locker key and I dont feel like doing arena or quests because I'm already done lol.
Let's get this discussion back on track Summoners! Keep the feedback constructive please
So... no more Duel Credits in the 7hr class arena battle? Mystic arena is coming up and the rewards are the same. Don’t get me wrong, I do enjoy the updated rewards but I use those credits for practice and for participating in duel challenges.
Are duel credits going to be something we can earn elsewhere? Or better yet, are there plans to remove the duel cost?
Imo, duel credits should be scrapped completely and duels should be made free. Or at least have the limit increased. 5 per day is barely anything if it's for the purpose of practice.
I agree. The new solo events removed the only way to obtain duel credits. I don't believe there is another way to earn them now, but please someone correct me if I'm wrong. So at least increase the number of duels allowed before charging for units, or even better, get rid of the limit completely.
I absolutely love the changes, the new crystals, everything. But why are we getting the same 3 events over and over. Since the change we have had skill combat twice, science combat twice, mystic arena battle twice and I will bet money and science ends we will get mystic combat for a 2nd time. What is wrong with this?
What has happened to the Class Advancement events? There has not been one yet. Will there be an event in which opening champion crystals will help us reach milestones? Will featured crystals count as well?
What has happened to the Class Advancement events? There has not been one yet. Will there be an event in which opening champion crystals will help us reach milestones? Will featured crystals count as well?
Im waiting to level up as well. And Im just tired of the same 3 events over and over.
All is cool imo except for 4 star anything for cavalier players (like no one cares about 4* while being a cavalier and in most of the cases as an uncollected) and inability to convert current solo crystals into the new ones tho the latter seems fair enough to do
I care about 4*s and I have 100%ed act 6, you are foolish not to. I love 4* sig stones, it gets all my 4*s closer to max and makes it so I get more 5* shards.
Agreed - also, Kabam are making efforts to keep 4* champs having some relevance; whether it's in Variants, 22-hr Events, or Cavalier milestones.
People simply can't argue that 4* champs are useless - they clearly aren't. Even if they can't be used in Endgame content, there are other places they can be.
I noticed that there are no points for using 5* and 6* arena boosts in the class arena combat 7-hour events. Since those are in the game now, shouldn't they be added?
Why has the opening of any hero crystal been taken out of the combat and level up event ? If u do not what people to stock pile crystals give them an incentive to open them.
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The first picture is of the Event Quest Completion solo event, which I presume started before the solo crystal changes went live. It shows 2,100 solo crystal shards which seem to be separate from the 42K solo crystal shards from events which started after the change went live. There seems to be no way for me to redeem the shards noted in the first screenshot, they do not appear anywhere in the crystal tab at all.
I don't remember how many shards I had built up, but I can work backwards:
about 1.3 million lower and 2.7 million of the greater. Allowing players like me to keep those and convert them to the highest tier solo crystal at the implied conversion rates (solo crystals 10:1, greater solo crystals 5:1) would have handed me about 400 Supreme Solo Crystals. I'm not sure why there are players out there doubting the fact that there are players who had tons of these: I actually opened a bunch a year ago: I could have had almost double what I had yesterday.
They would have been crazy to hand players like me hundreds of those. And for those calling Kabam "stingy" that's silly: Kabam gains nothing, and loses nothing directly from handing me 400 supreme solo crystals. It is all the players that didn't have massive hoards of shards that would lose out there. Those crystals originally contained a built in value that handed the players who accumulated them *some* advantage over other players, but not a terribly large one. The supreme crystal contains a much larger value, and thus a much larger advantage. It would be a bad idea to allow players to retroactively gain all of that benefit through years of crystal shard hoarding that occurred before the supreme crystal even existed.
The players who wanted to convert their shards, I can understand that. But framing this as a player vs Kabam thing is simply wrong. This isn't about what Kabam is willing to give to "the players." It is about how far Kabam should tilt the scales toward *some* players over other players.
The events that were already running prior to the changeover lists SOLO SHARDS which are still the “lesser” version of the old shards (note, only the greater versions actually had a qualifier name ie, greater, to them. The lesser were always just named Solo).
And so now the new system only has one type of shard, just called Solo (but is different from the old Solo shards). The new Solo Shards can be used to buy any of the 3 crystals (unlike the old system).
And similarly for @DaRealMcCoy , there were (are) some overlapping events today that some were started prior to the change (so still has old style crystal shards), at same time as some events that started later (which contained the new style).
Shards that you were earning from the earlier events still went into the individual bucket style crystals of “lesser” vs “greater”. You thought maybe you were earning some of the new style, but some of those events today were still giving old-style (which got auto-converted to whole crystals, as per what was supposed to happen).
Are duel credits going to be something we can earn elsewhere? Or better yet, are there plans to remove the duel cost?
Here is the Science Combat event that ended 15 min ago:
Edit: Nevermind, just saw rank cut off is higher than the last milestone so I didn’t hit that.
Even then, I scored 47k in the first Skill Combat event but failed to receive any ranked rewards. Pretty odd, will file a bug report if it happens again for the current Class Combat event.
Yes I'm uncollected & cavalier and have 100% of content completed.
Still getting these really
People simply can't argue that 4* champs are useless - they clearly aren't. Even if they can't be used in Endgame content, there are other places they can be.
I noticed that there are no points for using 5* and 6* arena boosts in the class arena combat 7-hour events. Since those are in the game now, shouldn't they be added?
If u do not what people to stock pile crystals give them an incentive to open them.