Here me out... Elsa Bloodstone is overrated

She’s not top 5 skill. So many people say Elsa is top five skill it’s actually stupid

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Elsa is awesome. I also don't put her in my top 5 skill list but those who put her are not wrong as all the skill champs except nick and aegon are close enough to be interchangeable.

Seraphion

But by then T5CC will be more available and you shouldn't have a problem to R3 or even R4 him then right?

Etjama

I don't think it's that far off tbh.

Fancyson

Well the problem with that logic is that abyss is the most rewarding content in the game at the moment. As for outside of LoL and abyss I would still rank aegon above stealthy because he has a arguably the most reliable debuff shrug off of the skill class, and hes got true strike by 150 hits. Stealthy is more fun and easier to use for day to day questing for sure though.

Seraphion

My argument for Stealthy is that he is "ramped up" in 2-3 combos + Sp1.

But I can 100% see your point as well.

IKON

Aegon is hard to rank, because he's borderline required for the long form content, but nothing special everywhere else. I finished abyss and haven't touched him since. I see the argument for him at 2, and I see the argument for him at 8.

Worknprogress

The constant bickering about ordering champ rankings is by far one of the most annoying and unfortunately prevalent things here.

FluffyPigMonster

When was she underrated? She’s what she is. A good champ, not OP, not crappy.

Nobody spins a crystal and says “I hope it’s Elsa”. They may get her and say “ok, I like her” but everyone wishes for Fury, Falcon (now), Blade, etc. She’s after them.

SaltE_Wenis69

Ehhh idk shes like top 7 for me

Nick
Aegon
monke
falcon
elsa
stealthy ( I hate using him his health is badd)
blade

The reason why I put her so high is I can almost clear all the rooms in sec 6 (point farming) with a r3 5* She has busted which no one is immune to and it gives biggg dmg, also if the champ evades, the the last medium deals colds nap, if not incinerate, also her evade mechanic is a real life saver if the attack gets too high.

KDSuperFlash10

1. NF
2. Aegon
3. Stealthy
4. Falcon
5. Blade
6. Killmonger
7. Hit-Monkey
8. Ronin
9. Night Thrasher
10. Gwenpool
11. Elsa

Spot on, Elsa doesn't even make top 10. And with the Mole Man and Kingpin buffs right around the corner, I have a feeling she's going to be pushed back even further back in the skill class. Elsa is a mediocre, mid-tier skill champion.

SaltE_Wenis69

How is kimonger, ronin, and Night trasher better than elsa. Give me a reason not just a "Shes bad cuz I said so"

KDSuperFlash10

Killmonger's got way more utility and comparable damage at max sig. Ronin's got better damage and equal utility. Night Thrasher's got a way better evade counter, much more utility, and comparable damage at max sig.

SpideyFunko

Killmonger and Night Thrasher both have arsenals of utility.

Let’s use Night Thrasher as an example.
- Instant evade counter, no ramp up or debuffs needed
- Incinerate Immune
- High damage with 10 furies (plus the crit bonus)
- Power Gain to make getting to the sp1 easier
- 50% DAAR and 50% Block Prof reduction
- 40% Attack Reduction

SaltE_Wenis69

kilmonger has the utility but bad dmg writhout synergys and HIGH SIG, Night thrasher only has evade on dash attacks and he needs HIGH SIG for good dmg, and ronin? bruh just why. Elsa has a super easy evade counter and with a couple of busted thingys her dmg is amazing even without awakened abilitys and with max sig she is even better

SaltE_Wenis69

Well duh they have great utiliy but unawakened and low sig, kilmongers dmg is bad and so is night thrashers. Actually his dmg is mediocre.

SpideyFunko

Ægon needs high sig for good damage, is Elsa better?

KDSuperFlash10

"bad dmg without synergies and HIGH SIG" well yes, then take him to high sig if you want to see the most of his damage.

Night Thrasher has way more utility, and at max sig reaches great levels of damage.

Ronin's got consistent high damage and different pieces of utility like some AAR and quicker debuff shrug off than Elsa.

Elsa's got solid damage and decent utility.

SpideyFunko

Oh no! A champion needs their sig!? They must be inferior to Elsa!

Panchulon21

Elsa is pretty cool. Never believed the hype until I pulled a 6 star and took her to rank 2 on expiring resources. Definitely worth it.

Now she’s not a goddess like others say and not a top 5 but she definitely gets her recognition. Good utility. Good damage, good burst damage. For me it’s below:

1.) fury
2.) Aegon
3.) falcon
4.) stealth
5.) hit monkey
6.) blade
7.) KM/Elsa

KDSuperFlash10

That's the same logic as saying why would anyone use iso/catalysts/gold on Elsa when they could just use/save it for Nick/Aegon. Flawed logic, there isn't 1 champ that is worthy of your catalysts or sig stones. If someone puts 200 sigs into KM, they're getting value for that investment. Same with Night Thrasher. Same with Aegon. Same with Cap IW. And so on.

SaltE_Wenis69

At my level 5* sigs are still really valuable so I obviously wont go wasting them on ok champs to make them great I would rather use them on ok or great champs to make them op. But iso on the other hand is still valuable but they come by much easier

KDSuperFlash10

Your level clearly isn't all that high then. Progress at the game and you'll get more sigs.

Etjama

Blade above Killmonger? This isn't 2018.

Masterpuff

YES.

SaltE_Wenis69

spideyfunko is like at my level and he has the same opinion as you. But yeah ig that is true

Realm_Of_Rah

She's really not as bad as people are making out to be in this thread, her uses off the top of my head:
-Probably the best Void counter in the game
-Solid evade counter, not the best but better than say Killmonger or Night Thrasher, worse than Ghost or Nick Fury
-Pseudo heal block with the despair mastery, if you're running suicides also passively heal blocks opponents at the start of the fight
-Tons of DOT damage, gonna go on record and say she'll be used an amazing option for protect Thing bosses with the Tigra synergy. Only way she's triggering protection from the global is on sp3 and can easily remove it with her intercept mechanic.
-Intercept mechanic comes with niche utility uses (Aspect of War, Do not go gentle, pull)
-On demand access to incinerate for any node that requires it
-Sturdy champion, average healthpool compared to Hit Monkey or Speathy (well below average) and her evade mechanic helps mitigate tons of block damage
-Easiest non damaging debuff shrug off in the game

For next month's Cav EQ she will be amongst the best options.

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SpideyFunko

how is she a better evade counter than Night Thrasher?

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Realm_Of_Rah

I have an Elsa at Rank 3 and Night Thrasher sig 180 at R5, Ignoring the rank Elsa only needs a coldsnap on the opponent and then she can fight normally. NT is limited to mediums and heavies, either that or sp3 and then only hit into extended stuns. Out of the two Elsa is far more simplistic and will get the fight done faster. Edit: only time I'll be using NT for evade matchups is for incursions where its not worth swapping out another character for and he scales very well with most of the incursion hacks. His true strike is mainly for dealing with autoblock.