I've never considered Elsa to be a top 5 skill but that doesn't make her overrated. You can't tell an owner of a 6* r2 elsa that she's overrated when I use her in so many paths of content. Nowhere have I seen anyone trying to say she was top 5...
People here have ranked her above Falcon(After buff), Stealthy(although that's up for debate) and even Nick and Aegon in some extreme cases.
Find me some
I did a quick search using the forums' very effective search function and found this. There are some more but it will take time to look them up. Anyways, just chill m8. These are all our opinions on why we think Elsa is overrated. You think she is great and that's good for you. Nothing much will happen if we move her from our beyond-god tier category to god-tier or something like that. She'll still do the same damage and have the same utility.
P.S: I do think Elsa is great and would love a 5 or 6 star version of her. I just don't think she is as great or better than champs Stealthy, Hit-Monkey, etc. personally.
You are not seeing the bigger picture. He has killmonger at no 2 and black widow at no 4. Funko when are you going to make killmonger overrated thread?
Very disappointed seeing you make such a fallacious post. I don’t think Elsa is over rated , and for you to say that means she is rated higher than what you initially thought. I respect your opinion , but I have to disagree
Sure KM has indestructible and unstoppable, but it’s not something you need consistently, his true strike is nice , but so is elsa evade ability.
Stealthy is realistically good for 2 fights and after that he loses his health pool quite quick, it’s just not safe.
More importantly, Elsa is a great champ because she is a very dependable champ and has an amazing kit that just seems to fit in every scenario. I think she is very similar to silver surfer in that regard .
I find my self using my R3 Elsa because I just know she is dependable and can handle most content. She has the highest crit rate in the entire game , great damage. The only thing stopping her from being great is being able to shrug off damaging debuffs at all times.
I feel that Claire is an okay champ that is overrated . Her damage sucks most of the time , and it’s rare you find yourself using any of her modes but hellfire. She is regarded as a high champ because she can just fit in wherever she goes
You obviously haven't learnt to play Claire. I bring her everywhere, and her damage doesn't suck. She's suicides friendly, with a reliable strong heal, mediocre power control, destroys opponents with immunities, buff control, triple immune and can even cheat death awakened. She is my second r3 6* and I have no regrets at all.
Top 5 in which aspect? Ffs ppl never stop trying to make absolite scales. She is difficult defender and has good damage, both from hits and debuffs. She also has some form of utility. And there will always be champs better at some aspect, even in her class: for LoL/AoL, noone matches Ægon. For utility, Stealthy is arguably more useful. Falcon has AAR. And it is impossible to combine all aspects into one "top 5"
I'm glad someone finally said it. How is Elsa ranked top 5? She doesn't even do that much. 1. Nick Fury 2. Aegon 3. Spelthy 4. Ronin 5. Falcon Still not sure of the order of the bottom 3 but Elsa does not compare. She has mediocre damage unless you get lucky, and little utility.
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@Crcrcrc "Lucky?" LUCKY?!?!?!? Are you crazy? She's got guaranteed damage not domino surprise damage. I never say elsa's top 5 skill but she's 100% 7th place
I'm glad someone finally said it. How is Elsa ranked top 5? She doesn't even do that much. 1. Nick Fury 2. Aegon 3. Spelthy 4. Ronin 5. Falcon Still not sure of the order of the bottom 3 but Elsa does not compare. She has mediocre damage unless you get lucky, and little utility.
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@Crcrcrc "Lucky?" LUCKY?!?!?!? Are you crazy? She's got guaranteed damage not domino surprise damage. I never say elsa's top 5 skill but she's 100% 7th place
Yes lucky. Not top 5. Not at the bottom. In the middle for above average decency
DUDEEEE. Its not like she has 50% chance to apply busted, incinerate or coldsnap. She has 100% chance. Thats not luck thats guaranteed damage
Top 5 in which aspect? Ffs ppl never stop trying to make absolite scales. She is difficult defender and has good damage, both from hits and debuffs. She also has some form of utility. And there will always be champs better at some aspect, even in her class: for LoL/AoL, noone matches Ægon. For utility, Stealthy is arguably more useful. Falcon has AAR. And it is impossible to combine all aspects into one "top 5"
Top 5 in which aspect? Ffs ppl never stop trying to make absolite scales. She is difficult defender and has good damage, both from hits and debuffs. She also has some form of utility. And there will always be champs better at some aspect, even in her class: for LoL/AoL, noone matches Ægon. For utility, Stealthy is arguably more useful. Falcon has AAR. And it is impossible to combine all aspects into one "top 5"
Some people cant accept elsa is good. Instead comparison is required apparently
She’s great but I just can’t say she’s a top 5 skill
2-8 - a bunch of champs you could rank however you feel like and be reasonably correct, including Elsa.
I agree, except Aegon is 2nd just because he makes abyss and longer content so much easier.
I would even dare to say (if we dont count AoL and LoL) that Stealthy is better than Aegon.
You might think that statement is crazy but when you have AoL 100% and a 6* Aegon and Stealthy + pull a Skill T5CC who would you R3?
Why everyone thinks that aegon is useful at 500 hits combo? No , at 500 hit combo is unbeatable.
After 100 hits combo (something easy) its top in game: Crits through block like corvus Purifies all the debuffs He gains heavy - unstoppable - protection and hits like crazy.
I'm glad someone finally said it. How is Elsa ranked top 5? She doesn't even do that much. 1. Nick Fury 2. Aegon 3. Spelthy 4. Ronin 5. Falcon Still not sure of the order of the bottom 3 but Elsa does not compare. She has mediocre damage unless you get lucky, and little utility.
Go on. Press the disagree button.
@Crcrcrc "Lucky?" LUCKY?!?!?!? Are you crazy? She's got guaranteed damage not domino surprise damage. I never say elsa's top 5 skill but she's 100% 7th place
I'm glad someone finally said it. How is Elsa ranked top 5? She doesn't even do that much. 1. Nick Fury 2. Aegon 3. Spelthy 4. Ronin 5. Falcon Still not sure of the order of the bottom 3 but Elsa does not compare. She has mediocre damage unless you get lucky, and little utility.
Go on. Press the disagree button.
@Crcrcrc "Lucky?" LUCKY?!?!?!? Are you crazy? She's got guaranteed damage not domino surprise damage. I never say elsa's top 5 skill but she's 100% 7th place
Yes lucky. Not top 5. Not at the bottom. In the middle for above average decency
DUDEEEE. Its not like she has 50% chance to apply busted, incinerate or coldsnap. She has 100% chance. Thats not luck thats guaranteed damage
Top 5 in which aspect? Ffs ppl never stop trying to make absolite scales. She is difficult defender and has good damage, both from hits and debuffs. She also has some form of utility. And there will always be champs better at some aspect, even in her class: for LoL/AoL, noone matches Ægon. For utility, Stealthy is arguably more useful. Falcon has AAR. And it is impossible to combine all aspects into one "top 5"
How is she good on defense though
Yea she’s a bad defender, nick fury absolutely melts her with all those bleeds, go on, try. If you see passive degeneration it’s a glitch and it won’t do any damage.
2-8 - a bunch of champs you could rank however you feel like and be reasonably correct, including Elsa.
I agree, except Aegon is 2nd just because he makes abyss and longer content so much easier.
I would even dare to say (if we dont count AoL and LoL) that Stealthy is better than Aegon.
You might think that statement is crazy but when you have AoL 100% and a 6* Aegon and Stealthy + pull a Skill T5CC who would you R3?
Why everyone thinks that aegon is useful at 500 hits combo? No , at 500 hit combo is unbeatable.
After 100 hits combo (something easy) its top in game: Crits through block like corvus Purifies all the debuffs He gains heavy - unstoppable - protection and hits like crazy.
I would say 100 he’s solid, 250 he’s crazy, 500 he’s unstoppable and 999 he’s Aegon level
I'm glad someone finally said it. How is Elsa ranked top 5? She doesn't even do that much. 1. Nick Fury 2. Aegon 3. Spelthy 4. Ronin 5. Falcon Still not sure of the order of the bottom 3 but Elsa does not compare. She has mediocre damage unless you get lucky, and little utility.
Go on. Press the disagree button.
@Crcrcrc "Lucky?" LUCKY?!?!?!? Are you crazy? She's got guaranteed damage not domino surprise damage. I never say elsa's top 5 skill but she's 100% 7th place
I'm glad someone finally said it. How is Elsa ranked top 5? She doesn't even do that much. 1. Nick Fury 2. Aegon 3. Spelthy 4. Ronin 5. Falcon Still not sure of the order of the bottom 3 but Elsa does not compare. She has mediocre damage unless you get lucky, and little utility.
Go on. Press the disagree button.
@Crcrcrc "Lucky?" LUCKY?!?!?!? Are you crazy? She's got guaranteed damage not domino surprise damage. I never say elsa's top 5 skill but she's 100% 7th place
Yes lucky. Not top 5. Not at the bottom. In the middle for above average decency
DUDEEEE. Its not like she has 50% chance to apply busted, incinerate or coldsnap. She has 100% chance. Thats not luck thats guaranteed damage
Top 5 in which aspect? Ffs ppl never stop trying to make absolite scales. She is difficult defender and has good damage, both from hits and debuffs. She also has some form of utility. And there will always be champs better at some aspect, even in her class: for LoL/AoL, noone matches Ægon. For utility, Stealthy is arguably more useful. Falcon has AAR. And it is impossible to combine all aspects into one "top 5"
How is she good on defense though
1) if her owner has suicides, you get degeneration from the bleed she has. Just like against Iceman, except this has only one counter I know of (Gulk)
2) projectile specials that aren't exactly easy to evade (SP1 is ok, SP2 not so much)
3) high critstrike = if she clips you, goodbye
4) "sticky combos" - by this I mean that just like Domino, when she hits your block, you have hard time dodging back
I am not saying she is terrible to fight, but if you compare her and lets say Falcon on defense, Elsa wins by a long shot
I'm glad someone finally said it. How is Elsa ranked top 5? She doesn't even do that much. 1. Nick Fury 2. Aegon 3. Spelthy 4. Ronin 5. Falcon Still not sure of the order of the bottom 3 but Elsa does not compare. She has mediocre damage unless you get lucky, and little utility.
Go on. Press the disagree button.
@Crcrcrc "Lucky?" LUCKY?!?!?!? Are you crazy? She's got guaranteed damage not domino surprise damage. I never say elsa's top 5 skill but she's 100% 7th place
I'm glad someone finally said it. How is Elsa ranked top 5? She doesn't even do that much. 1. Nick Fury 2. Aegon 3. Spelthy 4. Ronin 5. Falcon Still not sure of the order of the bottom 3 but Elsa does not compare. She has mediocre damage unless you get lucky, and little utility.
Go on. Press the disagree button.
@Crcrcrc "Lucky?" LUCKY?!?!?!? Are you crazy? She's got guaranteed damage not domino surprise damage. I never say elsa's top 5 skill but she's 100% 7th place
Yes lucky. Not top 5. Not at the bottom. In the middle for above average decency
DUDEEEE. Its not like she has 50% chance to apply busted, incinerate or coldsnap. She has 100% chance. Thats not luck thats guaranteed damage
Top 5 in which aspect? Ffs ppl never stop trying to make absolite scales. She is difficult defender and has good damage, both from hits and debuffs. She also has some form of utility. And there will always be champs better at some aspect, even in her class: for LoL/AoL, noone matches Ægon. For utility, Stealthy is arguably more useful. Falcon has AAR. And it is impossible to combine all aspects into one "top 5"
How is she good on defense though
1) if her owner has suicides, you get degeneration from the bleed she has. Just like against Iceman, except this has only one counter I know of (Gulk)
2) projectile specials that aren't exactly easy to evade (SP1 is ok, SP2 not so much)
3) high critstrike = if she clips you, goodbye
4) "sticky combos" - by this I mean that just like Domino, when she hits your block, you have hard time dodging back
I am not saying she is terrible to fight, but if you compare her and lets say Falcon on defense, Elsa wins by a long shot
I'm glad someone finally said it. How is Elsa ranked top 5? She doesn't even do that much. 1. Nick Fury 2. Aegon 3. Spelthy 4. Ronin 5. Falcon Still not sure of the order of the bottom 3 but Elsa does not compare. She has mediocre damage unless you get lucky, and little utility.
Go on. Press the disagree button.
@Crcrcrc "Lucky?" LUCKY?!?!?!? Are you crazy? She's got guaranteed damage not domino surprise damage. I never say elsa's top 5 skill but she's 100% 7th place
I'm glad someone finally said it. How is Elsa ranked top 5? She doesn't even do that much. 1. Nick Fury 2. Aegon 3. Spelthy 4. Ronin 5. Falcon Still not sure of the order of the bottom 3 but Elsa does not compare. She has mediocre damage unless you get lucky, and little utility.
Go on. Press the disagree button.
@Crcrcrc "Lucky?" LUCKY?!?!?!? Are you crazy? She's got guaranteed damage not domino surprise damage. I never say elsa's top 5 skill but she's 100% 7th place
Yes lucky. Not top 5. Not at the bottom. In the middle for above average decency
DUDEEEE. Its not like she has 50% chance to apply busted, incinerate or coldsnap. She has 100% chance. Thats not luck thats guaranteed damage
Top 5 in which aspect? Ffs ppl never stop trying to make absolite scales. She is difficult defender and has good damage, both from hits and debuffs. She also has some form of utility. And there will always be champs better at some aspect, even in her class: for LoL/AoL, noone matches Ægon. For utility, Stealthy is arguably more useful. Falcon has AAR. And it is impossible to combine all aspects into one "top 5"
How is she good on defense though
1) if her owner has suicides, you get degeneration from the bleed she has. Just like against Iceman, except this has only one counter I know of (Gulk)
2) projectile specials that aren't exactly easy to evade (SP1 is ok, SP2 not so much)
3) high critstrike = if she clips you, goodbye
4) "sticky combos" - by this I mean that just like Domino, when she hits your block, you have hard time dodging back
I am not saying she is terrible to fight, but if you compare her and lets say Falcon on defense, Elsa wins by a long shot
wdym like Icemans passive Frostbite?
I meant that once you enter the fight, you start losing hp for certain period of time. Awakened Iceman has Coldsnap debuff = bring coldsnap immune or high energy resist champion.
Elsa on the other hand puts a passive degen on you, whih has only one counter (I know of) and that is Gulk. Noone else can mitigate passive DoT
I'm glad someone finally said it. How is Elsa ranked top 5? She doesn't even do that much. 1. Nick Fury 2. Aegon 3. Spelthy 4. Ronin 5. Falcon Still not sure of the order of the bottom 3 but Elsa does not compare. She has mediocre damage unless you get lucky, and little utility.
Go on. Press the disagree button.
@Crcrcrc "Lucky?" LUCKY?!?!?!? Are you crazy? She's got guaranteed damage not domino surprise damage. I never say elsa's top 5 skill but she's 100% 7th place
I'm glad someone finally said it. How is Elsa ranked top 5? She doesn't even do that much. 1. Nick Fury 2. Aegon 3. Spelthy 4. Ronin 5. Falcon Still not sure of the order of the bottom 3 but Elsa does not compare. She has mediocre damage unless you get lucky, and little utility.
Go on. Press the disagree button.
@Crcrcrc "Lucky?" LUCKY?!?!?!? Are you crazy? She's got guaranteed damage not domino surprise damage. I never say elsa's top 5 skill but she's 100% 7th place
Yes lucky. Not top 5. Not at the bottom. In the middle for above average decency
DUDEEEE. Its not like she has 50% chance to apply busted, incinerate or coldsnap. She has 100% chance. Thats not luck thats guaranteed damage
Top 5 in which aspect? Ffs ppl never stop trying to make absolite scales. She is difficult defender and has good damage, both from hits and debuffs. She also has some form of utility. And there will always be champs better at some aspect, even in her class: for LoL/AoL, noone matches Ægon. For utility, Stealthy is arguably more useful. Falcon has AAR. And it is impossible to combine all aspects into one "top 5"
How is she good on defense though
1) if her owner has suicides, you get degeneration from the bleed she has. Just like against Iceman, except this has only one counter I know of (Gulk)
2) projectile specials that aren't exactly easy to evade (SP1 is ok, SP2 not so much)
3) high critstrike = if she clips you, goodbye
4) "sticky combos" - by this I mean that just like Domino, when she hits your block, you have hard time dodging back
I am not saying she is terrible to fight, but if you compare her and lets say Falcon on defense, Elsa wins by a long shot
wdym like Icemans passive Frostbite?
I meant that once you enter the fight, you start losing hp for certain period of time. Awakened Iceman has Coldsnap debuff = bring coldsnap immune or high energy resist champion.
Elsa on the other hand puts a passive degen on you, whih has only one counter (I know of) and that is Gulk. Noone else can mitigate passive DoT
I'm glad someone finally said it. How is Elsa ranked top 5? She doesn't even do that much. 1. Nick Fury 2. Aegon 3. Spelthy 4. Ronin 5. Falcon Still not sure of the order of the bottom 3 but Elsa does not compare. She has mediocre damage unless you get lucky, and little utility.
Go on. Press the disagree button.
@Crcrcrc "Lucky?" LUCKY?!?!?!? Are you crazy? She's got guaranteed damage not domino surprise damage. I never say elsa's top 5 skill but she's 100% 7th place
I'm glad someone finally said it. How is Elsa ranked top 5? She doesn't even do that much. 1. Nick Fury 2. Aegon 3. Spelthy 4. Ronin 5. Falcon Still not sure of the order of the bottom 3 but Elsa does not compare. She has mediocre damage unless you get lucky, and little utility.
Go on. Press the disagree button.
@Crcrcrc "Lucky?" LUCKY?!?!?!? Are you crazy? She's got guaranteed damage not domino surprise damage. I never say elsa's top 5 skill but she's 100% 7th place
Yes lucky. Not top 5. Not at the bottom. In the middle for above average decency
DUDEEEE. Its not like she has 50% chance to apply busted, incinerate or coldsnap. She has 100% chance. Thats not luck thats guaranteed damage
Top 5 in which aspect? Ffs ppl never stop trying to make absolite scales. She is difficult defender and has good damage, both from hits and debuffs. She also has some form of utility. And there will always be champs better at some aspect, even in her class: for LoL/AoL, noone matches Ægon. For utility, Stealthy is arguably more useful. Falcon has AAR. And it is impossible to combine all aspects into one "top 5"
How is she good on defense though
1) if her owner has suicides, you get degeneration from the bleed she has. Just like against Iceman, except this has only one counter I know of (Gulk)
2) projectile specials that aren't exactly easy to evade (SP1 is ok, SP2 not so much)
3) high critstrike = if she clips you, goodbye
4) "sticky combos" - by this I mean that just like Domino, when she hits your block, you have hard time dodging back
I am not saying she is terrible to fight, but if you compare her and lets say Falcon on defense, Elsa wins by a long shot
wdym like Icemans passive Frostbite?
I meant that once you enter the fight, you start losing hp for certain period of time. Awakened Iceman has Coldsnap debuff = bring coldsnap immune or high energy resist champion.
Elsa on the other hand puts a passive degen on you, whih has only one counter (I know of) and that is Gulk. Noone else can mitigate passive DoT
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Stealthy attempt
Fury
Falcon
Are the top 3 for sure
After 100 hits combo (something easy) its top in game:
Crits through block like corvus
Purifies all the debuffs
He gains heavy - unstoppable - protection and hits like crazy.
2) projectile specials that aren't exactly easy to evade (SP1 is ok, SP2 not so much)
3) high critstrike = if she clips you, goodbye
4) "sticky combos" - by this I mean that just like Domino, when she hits your block, you have hard time dodging back
I am not saying she is terrible to fight, but if you compare her and lets say Falcon on defense, Elsa wins by a long shot
Elsa on the other hand puts a passive degen on you, whih has only one counter (I know of) and that is Gulk. Noone else can mitigate passive DoT