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New Carrina's challenges thoughts?

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    ahmynutsahmynuts Posts: 6,270 ★★★★★

    ahmynuts said:

    Hey all,

    You are welcome to discuss the challenges and have your thoughts on them, but I want to be very clear, attacking any one of our creators directly will not be tolerated. Nobody "betrayed the community" by doing exactly what was asked, to create extremely hard content.

    We will not tolerate any form of personal attacks, and we will take action on your game account if we think that it is necessary.

    I'm not gonna fight the jailing as my cell is pretty cushy but everyone that agreed with me should also technically be jailed or at least warned with this logic.
    Snitches get stitches...
    Hey man I'm still rereading my original comment to find the personal attack on fintech lol we'll get to the snitches get stitches in a minute 😂
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    Bron1Bron1 Posts: 275
    ahmynuts said:

    Hey all,

    You are welcome to discuss the challenges and have your thoughts on them, but I want to be very clear, attacking any one of our creators directly will not be tolerated. Nobody "betrayed the community" by doing exactly what was asked, to create extremely hard content.

    We will not tolerate any form of personal attacks, and we will take action on your game account if we think that it is necessary.

    I'm not gonna fight the jailing as my cell is pretty cushy but everyone that agreed with me should also technically be jailed or at least warned with this logic.
    I didn't agree with you but damn what a snitch lmao
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    Suros_moonSuros_moon Posts: 456 ★★★

    Perhaps I can ask the question more productively: Im a valiant player, typically celestial-ish in BGs (until I stop playing mid season lol), and lets say I have each of these characters maxed, ascended and ready to go. If I start at 0 revives and 0 units and I dont mean to spend money, just how much time does kabam expect me to invest to clear this content?

    Now lets say Im not me, and that Im just an average valiant in terms of skill but start from the same place roster wise and resource wise- just how much time is meant to be targeted to being able to clear this?

    At this point it seems like the answer is being measured in months if not longer. We simply need better avenues for resource acquisition without which the pursuit of late stage content wont just be slowed… it just wont happen- exactly as we saw with abyss. What happens when the resource acquisition takes longer than the period of relevance for the content? Kabam claimed that revive spamming trivialized the content (and later clarified that meant actually time investment was trivializing it). Is producing content people will simply opt out of not also trivializing?

    If you look at the rewards...
    The only resource is a 7* 1-2 gem..
    The rest is champ shards (straight up rng gamble), and a "trophy champ" piece...
    I agree. The rewards are already close to being phased out in the end game for the with the only real determinant being how much you value those 3 champs (most of their value coming from BGs which is also in a bad state reward wise funny enough). Honestly shocked there isn't a single titan shard.

    But for the sake of argument we can even grant them that the players might value these champs at the same level of r3 mats. I just want to know how long they expect you to spend acquiring resources to clear this content. Whats a general range of time you could spend targeted efforts to get toward this? The answer seems to be months and thats a massive far cry from where the game was when we could acquire revives more easily. The shock seems too great
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