Alliance Quest Miniboss and Sentinel Refresh - April 2018 - Discussion Thread [Updated April 13]

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  • Horror_punkHorror_punk Member Posts: 1,058 ★★★★
    RanoMano wrote: »
    So much QQ.....

    I will just use my Kamala Khan to smash those sents

    I'm bringing my luke cage BWAHAHAHAHA for map6
    He's immune to sp3 once per fight
    I'll smash Sentinnel to sp3 and take zero damage

    This sounds funny no


    But I'm gonna try it
  • 420down420down Member Posts: 170

    You make the game harder and harder every day but still the same rewards. Sentinel are less 5 time harder to beat as a symbiot, and sentinel have sp3. When activate sp3 and he has 4000 attack i'm 200% sure i'm dead with full life hero. So this is how KABAM work's, you die, you have to revive, so you have to buy revive, but no units so you have to buy units with money. KABAM it's happy!!! 😂
    And again players are zero for KABAM, game is changing and we still play but no more pleasure just nerves and frustration. Sorry to tell you guys but this is the true. Everything is made to work perfect for KABAM team and nothing for players. I realise this after the changes in mastery with the willpower and after v12. Every maintenance is made to adjust hero ability, attack and resistance. Thank you kabam team!

    A mod has already responded in another thread that the sentinels will not have sp3s.

    This is another point of contention for me about the moderation of this site. That thread was responded to by a mod with a clear answer. That’s great. But the thread was also closed by the mod. Why? Now you are going to get 50 more threads asking the same question you’ve already answered. I get joining it into this thread to keep the forum tidy. But closing a thread where you have addressed an issue only causes a reciprocating loop.

  • SpiritOfVengeanceSpiritOfVengeance Member Posts: 2,353 ★★★★
    You guys are like that person someone is close to or relative who always asks for forgivenss then repeats the same mistakes.
  • 420down420down Member Posts: 170
    linux wrote: »
    You make the game harder and harder every day but still the same rewards. Sentinel are less 5 time harder to beat as a symbiot, and sentinel have sp3. When activate sp3 and he has 4000 attack i'm 200% sure i'm dead with full life hero. So this is how KABAM work's, you die, you have to revive, so you have to buy revive, but no units so you have to buy units with money. KABAM it's happy!!! 😂
    And again players are zero for KABAM, game is changing and we still play but no more pleasure just nerves and frustration. Sorry to tell you guys but this is the true. Everything is made to work perfect for KABAM team and nothing for players. I realise this after the changes in mastery with the willpower and after v12. Every maintenance is made to adjust hero ability, attack and resistance. Thank you kabam team!

    If you read the full thread, you'll find that someone from Kabam claimed sentinels won't have their sp3 active.

    OTOH, that seems beside the point to me -- I find them annoying to fight, and lack of sp3 won't change that. For most champs, their specials are unavoidable damage or analysis charges. And once they get full analysis, they're much more annoying to fight. I don't have problems with them in the event quest (except the uncollected bosses, which I still completed without units but with some champs lost) -- but I just don't enjoy fighting them. Maybe that will change, but having to remember your last action and do something else (even if it's not optimal for the situation) each time is ... infuriating).

    Their specials are easy to evade with 0 damage. For sp1 after you avoid the initial hit back dash to the edge of the screen. Once the beam is about to hit dashback then forward for the attach. The sp2 you just dashback as the rockets are about to touch each time. You will get the hang of it.

  • DTMelodicMetalDTMelodicMetal Member Posts: 2,785 ★★★★★
    Why is everyone freaking out over Sentinels? You can avoid their analyze ability by mixing up attacks. L-M-L-M, M-L-M-SP1, L-M-L-SP2, etc. Same goes for defensive actions, mix up your blocks with dashing back and evading attacks. Button mashing is a poor attack strategy.

    Only the skill Sentinel is remotely difficult because he nullifies parry/stun.
  • NikoBravoNikoBravo Member Posts: 448 ★★★
    I'd love to see a legitimate poll to see what the fans think.

    Not that Kabam would use any of that intelligence gained from it. Just to see if I'm going to jump on any of the bandwagons or not and ride out the storm without spending a dime.
  • Whatnot72056Whatnot72056 Member Posts: 87
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    Ascoop24 wrote: »
    420sam wrote: »
    So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

    As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

    If you aren't at a place or time to refresh the rewards then you shouldn't be at a place or time to refresh the difficulty. One should not go without the other. This is a great example of pure laziness

    But how are you so sure that the difficulty has gotten worse?

    Granted, Bleed and Poison champions may not be as effective in Alliance Quests as they were before, but Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion, and a lot of the new Mini-Bosses have very common counters!

    Ha. The sentinels are complete d bags to fight in Master and UnC. That, probably coupled with how cheaty the symbis are on map 5.... No thank you. Not to mention those boss changes to some of the most annoying and damaging Champs. Writing is on the wall.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,503 ★★★★★
    I think the reactions are a bit dramatic. It's not a new Season. Just something to freshen it up until they get to a new one. People will adapt to the new Champs the same as they did previous AQs. Let's face it. We wet bored with the same Bosses and Minis.
  • 420down420down Member Posts: 170
    Mixalis wrote: »
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    Ascoop24 wrote: »
    420sam wrote: »
    So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

    As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

    If you aren't at a place or time to refresh the rewards then you shouldn't be at a place or time to refresh the difficulty. One should not go without the other. This is a great example of pure laziness

    But how are you so sure that the difficulty has gotten worse?

    Granted, Bleed and Poison champions may not be as effective in Alliance Quests as they were before, but Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion, and a lot of the new Mini-Bosses have very common counters!

    You said bleed and poison immune may not be as effective, yet you put Morningstar as mini boss, which means you need a bleed immune to fight her.


    I can’t believe I’m defending Miike but he pretty clearly stated bleed and poison champs would be less effective. That’s champs that give bleeds and poison. Not champs that are immune to them.
  • Batpotter1Batpotter1 Member Posts: 348
    Gaiejrhhth wrote: »
    So dorm is still the main boss correct?

    As far as I know
  • PincheChingonPincheChingon Member Posts: 99
    @Kabam Miike
    Please put some numbers here as to how much damage we can expect to see from the map6 mini boss Void’s “Fear of the Void” unavoidable damage. I expect this to be a massive damage that will almost be an auto kill in a few seconds, IF you don’t have an r4 5*. All the while trying to bait his specials.

    Just a simple question, looking for a simple answer.
  • TheYakAttackTheYakAttack Member Posts: 15
    If rewards stay the same for now and can't really be adjusted...then why not adjust the price of the maps for the time being? We barely make enough gold in this game since you guys brought in 6*s. This isn't an attack, it's a suggestion while you do the full refresh.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Mixalis wrote: »
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    Ascoop24 wrote: »
    420sam wrote: »
    So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

    As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

    If you aren't at a place or time to refresh the rewards then you shouldn't be at a place or time to refresh the difficulty. One should not go without the other. This is a great example of pure laziness

    But how are you so sure that the difficulty has gotten worse?

    Granted, Bleed and Poison champions may not be as effective in Alliance Quests as they were before, but Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion, and a lot of the new Mini-Bosses have very common counters!

    You said bleed and poison immune may not be as effective, yet you put Morningstar as mini boss, which means you need a bleed immune to fight her.

    You’ve got the wrong end of the stick. Mike said bleed and poison champs may not be as effective because they can no longer DEAL bleed and poison to sentinels, as opposed to symbioids.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Mixalis wrote: »
    Mixalis wrote: »
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    Ascoop24 wrote: »
    420sam wrote: »
    So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

    As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

    If you aren't at a place or time to refresh the rewards then you shouldn't be at a place or time to refresh the difficulty. One should not go without the other. This is a great example of pure laziness

    But how are you so sure that the difficulty has gotten worse?

    Granted, Bleed and Poison champions may not be as effective in Alliance Quests as they were before, but Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion, and a lot of the new Mini-Bosses have very common counters!

    You said bleed and poison immune may not be as effective, yet you put Morningstar as mini boss, which means you need a bleed immune to fight her.

    You’ve got the wrong end of the stick. Mike said bleed and poison champs may not be as effective because they can no longer DEAL bleed and poison to sentinels, as opposed to symbioids.

    Youx nots undoostang whstx ima stills sayingz.

    Explain then. Because Miike never said bleed and poison immune champs. He said bleed and poison champs. As in, those that inflict bleed and poison. You are wrong.
  • kmbell81kmbell81 Member Posts: 47
    Mixalis wrote: »
    Mixalis wrote: »
    Mixalis wrote: »
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    Ascoop24 wrote: »
    420sam wrote: »
    So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

    As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

    If you aren't at a place or time to refresh the rewards then you shouldn't be at a place or time to refresh the difficulty. One should not go without the other. This is a great example of pure laziness

    But how are you so sure that the difficulty has gotten worse?

    Granted, Bleed and Poison champions may not be as effective in Alliance Quests as they were before, but Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion, and a lot of the new Mini-Bosses have very common counters!

    You said bleed and poison immune may not be as effective, yet you put Morningstar as mini boss, which means you need a bleed immune to fight her.

    You’ve got the wrong end of the stick. Mike said bleed and poison champs may not be as effective because they can no longer DEAL bleed and poison to sentinels, as opposed to symbioids.

    Youx nots undoostang whstx ima stills sayingz.

    Explain then. Because Miike never said bleed and poison immune champs. He said bleed and poison champs. As in, those that inflict bleed and poison. You are wrong.

    This what your medulla ablongata doesn't understand. How the fudge can Mike say bleed and poison champs won't be effective on Sentinels, which is 90% of the champs that people use in AQ. Now everyone has to bring immune champs just 4 Sentinels. Understand??

    Bleed and poison champs are not effective on Sentinels because Sentinels are bleed and poison immune. How hard is that to understand?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,503 ★★★★★
    Mixalis wrote: »
    Mixalis wrote: »
    Mixalis wrote: »
    \
    Ascoop24 wrote: »
    420sam wrote: »
    So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

    As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

    If you aren't at a place or time to refresh the rewards then you shouldn't be at a place or time to refresh the difficulty. One should not go without the other. This is a great example of pure laziness

    But how are you so sure that the difficulty has gotten worse?

    Granted, Bleed and Poison champions may not be as effective in Alliance Quests as they were before, but Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion, and a lot of the new Mini-Bosses have very common counters!

    You said bleed and poison immune may not be as effective, yet you put Morningstar as mini boss, which means you need a bleed immune to fight her.

    You’ve got the wrong end of the stick. Mike said bleed and poison champs may not be as effective because they can no longer DEAL bleed and poison to sentinels, as opposed to symbioids.

    Youx nots undoostang whstx ima stills sayingz.

    Explain then. Because Miike never said bleed and poison immune champs. He said bleed and poison champs. As in, those that inflict bleed and poison. You are wrong.

    This what your medulla ablongata doesn't understand. How the fudge can Mike say bleed and poison champs won't be effective on Sentinels, which is 90% of the champs that people use in AQ. Now everyone has to bring immune champs just 4 Sentinels. Understand??

    This sounds confusing in and of itself. I believe what you mean is Champs you can use against Bleed and Poison Immune Champs. When you say Immune, that's something different.
    People can still use their Bleed and Poison Champs. Just not for the ones Immune. Not all Champs will be vulnerable to Bleed or Poison.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,503 ★★★★★
    Mixalis wrote: »
    Mixalis wrote: »
    Mixalis wrote: »
    Mixalis wrote: »
    \
    Ascoop24 wrote: »
    420sam wrote: »
    So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

    As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

    If you aren't at a place or time to refresh the rewards then you shouldn't be at a place or time to refresh the difficulty. One should not go without the other. This is a great example of pure laziness

    But how are you so sure that the difficulty has gotten worse?

    Granted, Bleed and Poison champions may not be as effective in Alliance Quests as they were before, but Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion, and a lot of the new Mini-Bosses have very common counters!

    You said bleed and poison immune may not be as effective, yet you put Morningstar as mini boss, which means you need a bleed immune to fight her.

    You’ve got the wrong end of the stick. Mike said bleed and poison champs may not be as effective because they can no longer DEAL bleed and poison to sentinels, as opposed to symbioids.

    Youx nots undoostang whstx ima stills sayingz.

    Explain then. Because Miike never said bleed and poison immune champs. He said bleed and poison champs. As in, those that inflict bleed and poison. You are wrong.

    This what your medulla ablongata doesn't understand. How the fudge can Mike say bleed and poison champs won't be effective on Sentinels, which is 90% of the champs that people use in AQ. Now everyone has to bring immune champs just 4 Sentinels. Understand??

    Why would they have to bring immune champs to fight sentinel? LOL

    You are so wrong it's hilarious. Even funnier when you keep being stubborn and won't admit you made a mistake.

    Bcuz, bleed and poison champs won't be as effective on Sentinels, per Kabam Mikey's initial, initial, initially stated

    Correct. Sentinels are Immune to Bleed and Poison.
  • roastedbagelroastedbagel Member Posts: 350 ★★★
    edited March 2018
    @Kabam Miike
    Please put some numbers here as to how much damage we can expect to see from the map6 mini boss Void’s “Fear of the Void” unavoidable damage. I expect this to be a massive damage that will almost be an auto kill in a few seconds, IF you don’t have an r4 5*. All the while trying to bait his specials.

    Just a simple question, looking for a simple answer.

    That's not how it works.

    His fear of the void doesn't actually cause any debuff damage (it just combines the *effects* of the 3 debuffs), just the actual 3 various debuffs he inflicts. And those of course can be removed by going over a 10 hit combo.

    Source: I play Void almost exclusively and know him inside and out
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,503 ★★★★★
    Mixalis wrote: »
    Mixalis wrote: »
    Mixalis wrote: »
    Mixalis wrote: »
    \
    Ascoop24 wrote: »
    420sam wrote: »
    So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

    As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

    If you aren't at a place or time to refresh the rewards then you shouldn't be at a place or time to refresh the difficulty. One should not go without the other. This is a great example of pure laziness

    But how are you so sure that the difficulty has gotten worse?

    Granted, Bleed and Poison champions may not be as effective in Alliance Quests as they were before, but Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion, and a lot of the new Mini-Bosses have very common counters!

    You said bleed and poison immune may not be as effective, yet you put Morningstar as mini boss, which means you need a bleed immune to fight her.

    You’ve got the wrong end of the stick. Mike said bleed and poison champs may not be as effective because they can no longer DEAL bleed and poison to sentinels, as opposed to symbioids.

    Youx nots undoostang whstx ima stills sayingz.

    Explain then. Because Miike never said bleed and poison immune champs. He said bleed and poison champs. As in, those that inflict bleed and poison. You are wrong.

    This what your medulla ablongata doesn't understand. How the fudge can Mike say bleed and poison champs won't be effective on Sentinels, which is 90% of the champs that people use in AQ. Now everyone has to bring immune champs just 4 Sentinels. Understand??

    This sounds confusing in and of itself. I believe what you mean is Champs you can use against Bleed and Poison Immune Champs. When you say Immune, that's something different.
    People can still use their Bleed and Poison Champs. Just not for the ones Immune. Not all Champs will be vulnerable to Bleed or Poison.

    I also enjoy messing with his brain
    Gotcha. Thought you were unclear.
  • roastedbagelroastedbagel Member Posts: 350 ★★★
    I'm staggered right now by the mere fact people in here are comparing this to 12.0 and wanting to boycott 😂😂😂

    All because of a sentinel bwahaha
  • PlantesanPlantesan Member Posts: 335 ★★
    Sentinels on debuff immune 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

    Haha, Don’t remind me. As the designated immunity guy in my alliance, that’s going to be rage inducing. Although the plus side to it would be if they still act class specific to what the symbioids were...then the skill sentinels would be annoying at best?
  • UsedupUsedup Member Posts: 6
    I’ve been on the fence for the past couple months on whether to continue playing mcoc. Adding Map5 miniboss NC in combination with sentinels seems like a good time. I’ve spent way to much on this game thanks to unblockable specials and all the other garbage cash grab nodes. Just imagine stun immune NC for map 5. Yippee so glad I earn 325 t4cc frags and 500 basic frags for putting up with that.
  • DoomDoomDoomDoom Member Posts: 6
    If no increase in rewards how about making making map 4-5 free and reducing donations for map 6 :) Well at least start gold realm its so hectic to keep grinding. Need gold for everything donations, ranking up, leveling up, it's a joke how you keep bringing in new content but ignoring small things community being asking for.
  • NikoBravoNikoBravo Member Posts: 448 ★★★
    Any look at the app ratings lately? I wonder if they've changed yet? People are usially quick to react when they start disagreeing with what's going on.
  • lazapridvorice91lazapridvorice91 Member Posts: 2
    I think its boring to fight unawaken dormamu
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