Hey everybody, thank you all for your feedback. We're hearing a lot about the Milestones (which is great), but if you have any other feedback, like on matches/deathmatches etc., please make sure to share that too.
Additionally, please keep your feedback constructive. If you do or don't like something, tell us why. I've cleaned up a lot of posts that tell us how they feel, but not what the reason is. Actionable feedback is always best, and to get to that, we need to understand the concern itself.
Thank you all for all the thoughts and feedback so far. Keep it coming!
You've completely taken away the viability of 3 star rosters for getting units and gold from arenas. You also completely stripped 4 star basics from the lower tier players. Over the last year, you could easily get the 4 star basic champ, using 4 stars, at about 1.6-1.8 million points. Now, you need a good 6 star roster to do that.
On top of that, your comments about how there are now more units packed into less arenas just shows how you only care about the top 10% of players. Most of us will never see those points because we simply don't have the rosters. You've taken away content from the vast majority of the player base.
Oh, also, you threatened us in game last week in our mail. Let's not forget that. That was about the most tasteless thing I've seen in a while.
my biggest gripe with the new arena is that I play for units and shards to make my account stronger and try to push towards becoming uncolleted but with the unit's and shard's being reduced it makes it harder for me to progress and get iso-8 also it invalidates every thing under 4 star
I wonder who on the development team actually thought this would make things better for players. They can’t actually play the game. Right. They must just be looking at dots on a screen to think this is an improvement.
Hey everybody, thank you all for your feedback. We're hearing a lot about the Milestones (which is great), but if you have any other feedback, like on matches/deathmatches etc., please make sure to share that too.
Additionally, please keep your feedback constructive. If you do or don't like something, tell us why. I've cleaned up a lot of posts that tell us how they feel, but not what the reason is. Actionable feedback is always best, and to get to that, we need to understand the concern itself.
Thank you all for all the thoughts and feedback so far. Keep it coming!
You've completely taken away the viability of 3 star rosters for getting units and gold from arenas. You also completely stripped 4 star basics from the lower tier players. Over the last year, you could easily get the 4 star basic champ, using 4 stars, at about 1.6-1.8 million points. Now, you need a good 6 star roster to do that.
On top of that, your comments about how there are now more units packed into less arenas just shows how you only care about the top 10% of players. Most of us will never see those points because we simply don't have the rosters. You've taken away content from the vast majority of the player base.
Oh, also, you threatened us in game last week in our mail. Let's not forget that. That was about the most tasteless thing I've seen in a while.
I was taking this comment extremely hard and hard aggreeing with everything until the last paragraph 😂😂😂😂🤭😂😂
Hey everybody, thank you all for your feedback. We're hearing a lot about the Milestones (which is great), but if you have any other feedback, like on matches/deathmatches etc., please make sure to share that too.
Additionally, please keep your feedback constructive. If you do or don't like something, tell us why. I've cleaned up a lot of posts that tell us how they feel, but not what the reason is. Actionable feedback is always best, and to get to that, we need to understand the concern itself.
Thank you all for all the thoughts and feedback so far. Keep it coming!
Not what the reason is? Nearly every post is talking about that. It is mind boggling that Kabam didn’t do basic math on the rewards of the old arena system and use that data to balance the new ones. Arena grinders mainly do it for units and battle chips because so few can actually get the top champ rank rewards. The reason is that the rewards are a massive step BACK.
I’m not going to break it down again for you. Maybe watch Rich’s video and educate yourselves.
Additionally, why do 6* arena grinders need GM shards? The players with rosters to slam all these milestones are doing it with large 6*’rosters...... again, tone deaf.
Functionally, they seem to be working well in terms of match ups and champs throwing specials early in the streak etc.
I ran through a full cycle of my 75 6* champs with little issue. Just got rewarded less than before for it.
I am a caviliar player and I does not have big roster of 5* and 6*.I am also not arena grinder but I complete first two milestone for unit.but new arena's milestone are to high for me it take 12-15 round for first milestone. I am f2p player so arena is main option to collect unit but now I can't collect unit from new arena.😰 Hope kabam understand this
This change to arenas will not make me grind more. But less. Like Sunday-arena-and-that’s-it-kind-of-less.
Why not just remove arenas all together and force payers to pay cash up-front. That would be a more respectable than this ”update”.
Arenas works. AW doesn’t. But arenas is where you overhaul things. Why? Peopl spend more units on wars i guess.
Kabam - try to create fun things. I like fun. I will spend for fun. That’s how i work. Instead you implement these blatanly greedy changes, effectively showing FTP players the door. Cause **** em.
Without a huge roster, grinding this arena is impossible. You have to scale the milestone properly. Units are the most valuable currency which we get from arena. So try to revamp the milestones in such a manner that a player with low roster also can achieve it. A good amount of rewards are not there anymore for progressing players.
2* arena all milestones 2x a week: 130 units 3* arena all milestones 2x a week: 130 units 4* basic all milestones 2x a week: 270 units
530 units a week + battlechips, under the new format I am going to get 140 units 2x a week, so I am losing out on about 250 units a week and my 2/3* which I invested resources into are now essentially useless. Without a consistent way to get units it will significantly hinder my progress in this game as I haven't had much luck pulling great 5* champs and units gives me the ability to take the champs I do have knowing I will probably die a few times and can revive my way through the content on the really hard fights.
It's unbelievable and I am sure it has a lot of players weighing up whether or not they want to keep playing this game.
my roster of 89 capped 3 stars just became useless. I used to use them to grind those low units, some extra gold, and a guaranteed 3 star champ each week.
I wish that uncollected wasn't a requirement to attempt the featured arena. I think peoples rosters at proven and conqueror level wouldn't be powerful enough to secure a 5 or 6 star featured. In my opinion, the arena for new characters should be open to people at proven or conquerors and higher because the milestone rewards could help their roster immensely and keep interest in their accounts because the rookie players can come in and say "oh sweet! I got mister negative for my roster. I can't wait to use him in act 4" and new champions are what normally have hype so if new players can aquire them at a lower level it will keep them invested for a longer period of time I believe.
I am an average player. I got Cavalier recently. I only have six 6* champs and six 5* champs are maxed out so far. I think this new arena is not for player like me. Millstones are high, too. I am still a unit grinder. Unit grinding is not worth spending hours.
Do you not understand how that works? The majority of your big YT streamers invest that donation money right back into the game to whale away, or in some cases even make a living from it. Bc of that success, they can then piss away any thoughts of having a job, a family, a life outside of the grind, giving them a monetary and time advantage most of the rest of us aren’t afforded. Kudos to them all for what they do, but this is a different convo for a different board.
Let’s just agree the arena update is rubbish and move along.
You don't need to take a dig at youtubers for no reason tho. It has nothing to do with the topic at hand and what you're providing isn't anything constructive.
Anyways, my suggestions would be:
-Double the unit gain at lower milestones at least -Decrease the points(by half probably) -Revert to the old system of arenas with God's instead of phc's
Keep the same arenas and double the units and battleships, or go back to old ones and just add the new featured 6 star arena, I’m a veteran with great roster, but this is too time consuming, if you are thronebreaker and these are better arenas give more units, I can’t be waiting on my 6 stars to refresh. I miss the in between with the arenas.and being able to get something, the spenders will still spend. That thronebreaker arena crystal id make it 30k, and the cavalier one make the unit percentage go up to 25 percent.
C'mon Kabam, i used to get approx 400-450 units in the course of 3 days and now I can only get 180 ..... It's like you don't want me to progress anymore unless I pay you
As a uncollected player with a very limited 6 star roster, seeing these milestones and arena format is completely unattainable. A special 5 star featured arena for uncollected players that allowed 3,4, and 5 star champions is a needed change to give progressing players a chance to grind for new champion.
I liked the new system tbh, but other players with smaller accounts are having a hard time. Hopefully kabam finds a solution without going back to the old system.
Love the idea to revamp the arenas, it’s about time, but you couldn’t have been more off when your goal was to make them better. Looking at the rewards, the idea of putting the 3 and 4 star versions of the characters in the milestones is sweet. Also the grandmaster shards are cool, more iso for us thronebreaker players. That’s it though, everything else isn’t just bad, it’s an inconvenience. I have 42 6 stars and playing what I normally do to casually pick up some units, I found that I was obtaining about 60% of what I was able to obtain before when it came to units and battle chips. It’s very disappointing for casual arena players, now I don’t even want to be that. The old arenas were miles better when it comes to my time, and that’s what’s the most valuable resource to me.
When people ask if MCOC is a pay to win game, the only reason I say no is because of arenas. And Kabam decided to nerf it...thanks Kabam. In all seriousness please lower the milestones, 33Mil is a joke
I'm Uncollected and have around 2k units just when I thought of grinding arena for July 4th, this happened. For FTP players like me it is very hard to get units. Atleast bring back the old arenas
I like the structure, just think the milestones need some changing Just a suggestion: Why not make global milestones? where you can farm either arena for the ranked rewards and get all milestones from both 6 star arenas, pretty much fusing the milestones into one, you get both milestones for both arenas grinding either one of them, this way you cut the required 6 stars by half (43, which is still a lot, but it´s a lot better), while you can farm all milestones when you´re going for the featured or basic. So you have 16,5 mil points from either 6* arenas and the 2 mil points for the summoner trials (which is fine). This way you wouldn´t miss the units when grinding for a champ and would make the grind a lot more achievable, end-game players can always get all the milestones, no matter what you do, but at least this way, us f2p players who just got cavalier or thronebreaker have a chance. I have 25 6* champs, i could almost grind all units on the old arenas, now im missing a lot, no matter how hard i grind. Again, fusing the milestones into one, you get both milestones for both arenas grinding either one of them, if the grind gets too easy you could add more points to the milestones, like 20 mil or 25 mil at most, also the deathmatches HAVE to go away, otherwise everything below 5 star rank 3 is useless
I think increasing the points earned by using 5 stars would help balance out the 6 star divide for a lot of players, i have 75 6 stars, and its much easier for someone like me to get milestones with less effort than a newer player
The change is good but not ideal for all players so far it helps the players who have more 6* and on other hand it shafts those who are lagging behind in 6*. The proper solution is reducing 1)The Summoner Trials max milestone to 2M and give 200 units this ensures the uncollected and below players are not shafted. (Also Put feature champ as 3* in ranked rewards).
2)The Basic 6* arena the max milestones should be 4m - 135 units as before also adding a 4* as milestones in 6M. Keeping ranked rewards same. ( grand master shards and battlechips can be reduced accordingly).3* champ at 1M.
3) The featured arena is perfect just reduce the max milestone to 16M. Same ranked rewards. just 3* champion should be placed in 2 M milestone. (Thanks to KarateMike )
Would be great to have some more interaction from kabam. 16 pages of comments and only a couple reply’s. I understand you are reviewing things. But still. Could really comment more.
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On top of that, your comments about how there are now more units packed into less arenas just shows how you only care about the top 10% of players. Most of us will never see those points because we simply don't have the rosters. You've taken away content from the vast majority of the player base.
Oh, also, you threatened us in game last week in our mail. Let's not forget that. That was about the most tasteless thing I've seen in a while.
I’m not going to break it down again for you. Maybe watch Rich’s video and educate yourselves.
Additionally, why do 6* arena grinders need GM shards? The players with rosters to slam all these milestones are doing it with large 6*’rosters...... again, tone deaf.
Functionally, they seem to be working well in terms of match ups and champs throwing specials early in the streak etc.
I ran through a full cycle of my 75 6* champs with little issue. Just got rewarded less than before for it.
Hope kabam understand this
Why not just remove arenas all together and force payers to pay cash up-front. That would be a more respectable than this ”update”.
Arenas works. AW doesn’t.
But arenas is where you overhaul things. Why? Peopl spend more units on wars i guess.
Kabam - try to create fun things. I like fun. I will spend for fun. That’s how i work. Instead you implement these blatanly greedy changes, effectively showing FTP players the door. Cause **** em.
Soon
2* arena all milestones 2x a week: 130 units
3* arena all milestones 2x a week: 130 units
4* basic all milestones 2x a week: 270 units
530 units a week + battlechips, under the new format I am going to get 140 units 2x a week, so I am losing out on about 250 units a week and my 2/3* which I invested resources into are now essentially useless. Without a consistent way to get units it will significantly hinder my progress in this game as I haven't had much luck pulling great 5* champs and units gives me the ability to take the champs I do have knowing I will probably die a few times and can revive my way through the content on the really hard fights.
It's unbelievable and I am sure it has a lot of players weighing up whether or not they want to keep playing this game.
Not one.
Let’s just agree the arena update is rubbish and move along.
You don't need to take a dig at youtubers for no reason tho. It has nothing to do with the topic at hand and what you're providing isn't anything constructive.
Anyways, my suggestions would be:
-Double the unit gain at lower milestones at least
-Decrease the points(by half probably)
-Revert to the old system of arenas with God's instead of phc's
For FTP players like me it is very hard to get units.
Atleast bring back the old arenas
Just a suggestion:
Why not make global milestones? where you can farm either arena for the ranked rewards and get all milestones from both 6 star arenas, pretty much fusing the milestones into one, you get both milestones for both arenas grinding either one of them, this way you cut the required 6 stars by half (43, which is still a lot, but it´s a lot better), while you can farm all milestones when you´re going for the featured or basic. So you have 16,5 mil points from either 6* arenas and the 2 mil points for the summoner trials (which is fine).
This way you wouldn´t miss the units when grinding for a champ and would make the grind a lot more achievable, end-game players can always get all the milestones, no matter what you do, but at least this way, us f2p players who just got cavalier or thronebreaker have a chance. I have 25 6* champs, i could almost grind all units on the old arenas, now im missing a lot, no matter how hard i grind.
Again, fusing the milestones into one, you get both milestones for both arenas grinding either one of them, if the grind gets too easy you could add more points to the milestones, like 20 mil or 25 mil at most, also the deathmatches HAVE to go away, otherwise everything below 5 star rank 3 is useless
The proper solution is reducing
1)The Summoner Trials max milestone to 2M and give 200 units this ensures the uncollected and below players are not shafted. (Also Put feature champ as 3* in ranked rewards).
2)The Basic 6* arena the max milestones should be 4m - 135 units as before also adding a 4* as milestones in 6M. Keeping ranked rewards same. ( grand master shards and battlechips can be reduced accordingly).3* champ at 1M.
3) The featured arena is perfect just reduce the max milestone to 16M. Same ranked rewards. just 3* champion should be placed in 2 M milestone.
(Thanks to KarateMike )