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Devil of Hell's Kitchen Overhaul: Thoughts?
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1) Purify mechanic in Murdock Boy: why does it only purify non-damaging debuffs?
I would understand if it purified one of EACH debuff; damaging AND non-damaging.
But no, you want to purify non-damaging debuffs ONLY. A source of regen which DDHK is sorely lacking, AND you don’t want him to purify damaging debuffs? Are you TRYING to make sure he takes damage?
I ask you this, Kabam: what does The Unbreakable Spirit of Battlin’ Jack Murdock stand for? Because you have done EVERYTHING to make sure that his spirit is everything but Unbreakable.
2) Setting the base regen to 40%, and giving him less potent healing through a mechanic that comes and goes. No words here, it’s been covered too many times. Just watch @FluffyPigMonster ’s video and see how he loses 48% of his health without taking a single hit. Unviable, and unusable.
3) The damage, giving him 5-star Rank 4 values for Cruelty, Precision and Fury when he is a 6-star Rank 3 champion.
Kabam, look at Kingpin, who is wildly successful. The bonus Attack in Kingpin’s kit ranges from +3000 to +8900.
In comparison, DDHK’s highest Attack bonus is +2500. And sometimes he sacrifices Attack bonuses (Rage) for other Attack bonuses (Fury).
Why do things cancel out in his kit? What is the principle here? The trade offs aren’t worth it. Neither with the regen, nor with the damage.
4) The synergies. You locked his best utility behind synergies with Spider-Gwen, the Punisher (seriously? a trophy champ), Elektra and Psylocke. None of these champions will uplift your team, though Spider-Gwen is a beast in her own right. So why lock essential utility behind weak synergy partners? Also the Martyr synergy cancels itself out (yet again), where the increase in duration comes at a cost of Combo meter, which to regain requires … wait for it … DURATION.
Please pass on this feedback @Kabam Miike , hopefully @Kabam John will read these points and address them soon enough.
That is very insightful. Amazing that you have that perspective of punishing the champ.
That’s Frank Castle’s job!
Lol maybe Frank Castle paid @Kabam John a visit last December.
I don’t know when Kabam will recognize that this is a failure of a buff. Not because the design is poor, but because someone decided to give DDHK:
30% of his potential unawakened
40% of his potential awakened
70% of his potential at max sig
100% of his potential at max sig with synergies
All of that, and where did he land? Bang average.
If they decided to tune him up in a way where he gets:
60% of his potential unawakened
70% of his potential awakened
90% of his potential at max sig
100% of his potential at max sig with synergies
That approach would be much better for him.
And to do that, requires a tune-up.
Damage and utility need to be tuned up so that he can come into his own. This will get him to 60%.
Awakening and max sig are fine as they are. This will get him to 90%.
If damage and utility are tuned up, then synergies can be tuned down. This should give him the last 10% that he needs.
Then, testing needs to be done to make sure he’s still not underwhelming, and not too overpowered.
Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Elektra also aren’t ready.
So imo one overhaul (IF) , one moderate buff (Luke Cage) and a value buff for DDHK is a great way to welcome the arrival of the Hell’s Kitchen event.
I think Luke Cage still has some utility, but Elektra and the Iron Fists could definitely do with some work. It would be great if Elektra could do something based around there Black Sky arc - lots of potential there for something pretty cool.
Plus, wouldn't it be great to actually get an effective Defenders synergy team in the game?
And I agree 100%
Regardless, a nice quick adjustment before then is going to make it all worthwhile.
The Hell's Kitchen event could be really interesting.
But then he’s only viable in ROL 😂
And in ROL you can make Iron Patriot look good (Kabam please don’t punish me with an Iron Patriot - today is 12/11/2021 and is pre any possible buff to him).
Covered my bases there.
He needs that regen adjustment.
@Rookiie , you made a comment a while back about the kit actually working against itself.
When sketching some ideas for a post a while back, I did wonder if there was a way to link DDHK's special attacks and buffs together. This is what is stitched together, using the little-used SP1 as the base to bring some aspects of the kit together.
Special 1 – Condemn
On initiation, 100% chance to boost Critical Rating by 700 for 15 seconds.
On the final hit, pause the duration of all personal Fury Buffs and Righteous Wrath Passives for 10 seconds.
A possible rotation would then be SP3 (if opponent not bleed immune), SP2 with full Rage countdown, SP2 and if possible another SP2. Then, switch over to using the SP1 repeatedly to prolong the multiple Fury Buffs and Righteous Wrath.
It would also give the Rage Debuff at the start of the SP2 a reason to stick around, to delay the gaining of the Fury Buff so the larger stack can be paused. Plus, it would mean the specials actually were related to one another in terms of function and functioned as a cohesive 'whole'.
Of course, doing something like this would be more work than just increasing the durations - if it was that or nothing of course I'd take that.
While it would be great for the SP1 to do something, I think what you mentioned to me and FPM about DDHK having an Energize buff from his SP1 would be the best case scenario. I think that could also help stitch his kit together such that the SP2 and SP3 will be more easily accessible.
Gotta wait and see what they give us though.
The reason why I think pausing Buffs could work better is that it works after the fact, doesn't create conflict with power gain nodes and the duration only needs to be long enough to cover an average time of getting to the SP1, the animation time of the SP1 and then whatever the actual 'real' benefit of the pause would be.
But yeah, it's all kinds of academic really. I'm just hopeful we'll get something.
@Kabam Miike any chance we could get an update there?
Looks like a job for….
Everyone knows
He’s cool and can do a bunch but the guy just isn’t sustainable without perfect play.
But I'm sure there's been times where I've successfully made Daredevil miss against Ghost.
I don't think I'll quite understand that, but at least he has a niche there... though now I wonder what other options exist and what Daredevil offers in comparison.
I also wonder what sort of rework OG Daredevil will get - hopefully they won't shaft his regen rate too...
I really hope we can get an update to him. I totally appreciate that there are many other champs which need rework. If it's all that's possible due to other pressures is a tweak to the numbers, for Regen Rate and Buff durations, I'll certainly take it.
I appreciate that Kabam walk a fine line with these sort of things. Announce something and expectations are rarely met. Announce nothing and it looks like nothing is happening.
But all that said, it would be nice to get a response to this thread.
That’s what I hope for DDHK. Easy fix
DDHK is working as intended, but what is intended makes him not work well. The entire community would appreciate a candid response regarding the guy’s status.