To be fair, it's not impossible. More difficult. This has been something that the community has been asking for, for quite some time. It's a new level of challenge for the EQ. Naturally, not everyone will be able to complete it right off the bat. As with most things in the game, some will have to work towards it.
Don’t think anyone asked for unavoidable damage.
It has to have SOME type of difficulty. Otherwise what's the point?
Can you even play this difficulty?
Right. That's never been tried here before.
I was genuinely asking. For all I know you've made considerable progress in the story mode. However, if you're not able to see why pre-nerf that having a 5/50 champ lose all of their health in 12 seconds without being touched is ridiculous and why even after the nerf having 80% of it gone is still ridiculous I don't know what to tell you.
We're discussing Unavoidable Damage. Not whether I can do it or not. I find it to be a last resort in a debate. When someone disagrees with a point of view, or has very little to counter with, it gets turned into questioning someone's ability. I wasn't really arguing that it was okay pre-adjustment. I was talking about the challenge in general. Obviously I agree with the adjustment.
No, in this case I think it is a legitimate question. If you are offering grounded wisdom on the relative difficulty of a quest, whether it's an appropriate difficulty, whether it can be done with skill, etc., it ought to be content you are capable of doing. I'm not saying you aren't I honestly have no idea. But most people would answer the question especially if the answer is "yes". If you haven't fought Ice Phoenix on the uncollected quest you probably shouldn't have much to say on the subject. Glad you are in favor of the adjustment. Shame you didn't weigh in prior to it because I guarantee you would have been in favor of the per-adjusted version also.
To be fair, it's not impossible. More difficult. This has been something that the community has been asking for, for quite some time. It's a new level of challenge for the EQ. Naturally, not everyone will be able to complete it right off the bat. As with most things in the game, some will have to work towards it.
Don’t think anyone asked for unavoidable damage.
It has to have SOME type of difficulty. Otherwise what's the point?
Can you even play this difficulty?
Right. That's never been tried here before.
I was genuinely asking. For all I know you've made considerable progress in the story mode. However, if you're not able to see why pre-nerf that having a 5/50 champ lose all of their health in 12 seconds without being touched is ridiculous and why even after the nerf having 80% of it gone is still ridiculous I don't know what to tell you.
We're discussing Unavoidable Damage. Not whether I can do it or not. I find it to be a last resort in a debate. When someone disagrees with a point of view, or has very little to counter with, it gets turned into questioning someone's ability. I wasn't really arguing that it was okay pre-adjustment. I was talking about the challenge in general. Obviously I agree with the adjustment.
No, in this case I think it is a legitimate question. If you are offering grounded wisdom on the relative difficulty of a quest, whether it's an appropriate difficulty, whether it can be done with skill, etc., it ought to be content you are capable of doing. I'm not saying you aren't I honestly have no idea. But most people would answer the question especially if the answer is "yes". If you haven't fought Ice Phoenix on the uncollected quest you probably shouldn't have much to say on the subject. Glad you are in favor of the adjustment. Shame you didn't weigh in prior to it because I guarantee you would have been in favor of the per-adjusted version also.
No. It's not a legitimate question. We're discussing whether Unavoidable Damage is fair or not. Sorry, but this Forum does not require people to qualify for discussions. The subject comes up repeatedly, and it's not appropriate for a debate.
To be fair, it's not impossible. More difficult. This has been something that the community has been asking for, for quite some time. It's a new level of challenge for the EQ. Naturally, not everyone will be able to complete it right off the bat. As with most things in the game, some will have to work towards it.
Don’t think anyone asked for unavoidable damage.
It has to have SOME type of difficulty. Otherwise what's the point?
Can you even play this difficulty?
Right. That's never been tried here before.
I was genuinely asking. For all I know you've made considerable progress in the story mode. However, if you're not able to see why pre-nerf that having a 5/50 champ lose all of their health in 12 seconds without being touched is ridiculous and why even after the nerf having 80% of it gone is still ridiculous I don't know what to tell you.
We're discussing Unavoidable Damage. Not whether I can do it or not. I find it to be a last resort in a debate. When someone disagrees with a point of view, or has very little to counter with, it gets turned into questioning someone's ability. I wasn't really arguing that it was okay pre-adjustment. I was talking about the challenge in general. Obviously I agree with the adjustment.
No, in this case I think it is a legitimate question. If you are offering grounded wisdom on the relative difficulty of a quest, whether it's an appropriate difficulty, whether it can be done with skill, etc., it ought to be content you are capable of doing. I'm not saying you aren't I honestly have no idea. But most people would answer the question especially if the answer is "yes". If you haven't fought Ice Phoenix on the uncollected quest you probably shouldn't have much to say on the subject. Glad you are in favor of the adjustment. Shame you didn't weigh in prior to it because I guarantee you would have been in favor of the per-adjusted version also.
No. It's not a legitimate question. We're discussing whether Unavoidable Damage is fair or not. Sorry, but this Forum does not require people to qualify for discussions. The subject comes up repeatedly, and it's not appropriate for a debate.
No, you are offering opinions on how beatable it is, the nature of the skill involved. Statements like "it's really not that dire for me. It's not impossible to beat. It just means you have to do it as quickly and as skillfully as possible. No one ever promised we would end every Fight without taking Damage. Lol. " No one wants to hear this from someone that can't beat it, and if you won't say whether or not you can, than you can't. Maybe you just shouldn't have a lot to say to people struggling with a quest if you can't beat it yourself. Are you even uncollected?
I'm going to say this once, and I'm dropping the subject because that's not what this Thread is about. Anyone can participate in a discussion here, and people are equally respected here, regardless of what they have and have not done in the game. For some reason, that doesn't register for some. It is not appropriate to ridicule people or put them on the spot about their experience in the game in a conversation. Not at all. There are rules agaisnt it, actually. We're here to discuss topics. Not to expose people as a last resort. I'm moving on now. It's not okay. Not at all.
I'm going to say this once, and I'm dropping the subject because that's not what this Thread is about. Anyone can participate in a discussion here, and people are equally respected here, regardless of what they have and have not done in the game. For some reason, that doesn't register for some. It is not appropriate to ridicule people or put them on the spot about their experience in the game in a conversation. Not at all. There are rules agaisnt it, actually. We're here to discuss topics. Not to expose people as a last resort. I'm moving on now. It's not okay. Not at all.
No, it's not OK. There are some topics that are appropriate for anyone to discuss. There are others that require experience. It's one thing to weigh in. It's another thing to keep posting on something you know nothing about. That is abuse of the forum. It's not a "last resort" it's a legitimate question for anyone offering advice and opinions on topics that require some knowledge. Your refusal to answer the question on the grounds that it's a "last resort" is in fact a last resort for people pontificating on things about which they are unqualified to have an opinion. I sincerely hope you are moving on @GroundedWisdom. No one has "exposed you," but I think you just exposed yourself.
And no, people are not "equally respected" when it comes to advice and opinions on difficult content. People offering said advice and opinions are respected when they can actually complete the content. This should be obvious.
Back to the topic. We've had the same debate when Iceman came, and again with Mephisto. I think we can establish that some Damage will be Unavoidable. The impact is larger because it's a new level of difficulty. I don't suspect that every Uncollected will have Unavoidable Damage. We will have to see. It's not supposed to be that easy, in all fairness.
@LeNoirFaineant
She was OK. Only fought her once so far. Used a R4 5* Starky. Only needed one try and she was easier then most stuff in 5.3. She had no BS Buffs except the unaviodable damage.
Lol thanks. Was wondering how @GroundedWisdom found her, but he won’t say because his opinions are all based on platitudes and generalizations as he hasn’t fought her
It's not doing 700 per tick any loner, only about 400 give or take, but still, it's nonsense... There's no reason as to why a 4/55 should be left with less than 20% health after without even getting hit
King Groot should be able to shrugg off Iceman's Coldsnap at the start of the fight after 0.5 second at the cost of one Fury charge (He always starts the fight with 2 Fury Buff). However this is not working properly. Kabam should fix this as soon as possible and before the end of the month.
Can you change the signature back to full strength please? I like a challenge and I really enjoy everyone whining about something that's been in the game before. It isn't your fault that they failed to overcome a situation that we encountered during Master Mode in the Iceman Monthly Quest.
Dude, stop slamming salts. Stay with energy drinks and stuff...
You people will always complain about something it will never stop no matter what kabam does its an endless circle of crying.
That's only human, I guess?
Well, yes. Human, and common to this community. Not that I would criticize anyone's right to their feedback and concerns. Just a certain irony. For the longest time, people wanted another Difficulty, and said Master was too easy. Now that we have one, it's seen as unfair. Unavoidable Damage isn't new to the game at this point. The harder the content, the more Damage will be incurred. It gives a challenge either way. Otherwise it's the same type of content being released, and no matter how many Buffs or Nodes are added, it doesn't present much of a challenge to the demographic doing it. I don't see it as unfair. Just more challenging. It's more a matter of focusing on doing it than worrying about doing it untouched.
You people will always complain about something it will never stop no matter what kabam does its an endless circle of crying.
That's only human, I guess?
Well, yes. Human, and common to this community. Not that I would criticize anyone's right to their feedback and concerns. Just a certian irony. For the longest time, people wanted another Difficulty, and said Master was too easy. Now that we have one, it's seen as unfair. Unavoidable Damage isn't new to the game at this point. The harder the content, the more Damage will be incurred. It gives a challenge either way. Otherwise it's the same type of content being released, and no matter how many Buffs or Nodes are added, it doesn't present much of a challenge to the demographic doing it. I don't see it as unfair. Just more challenging. It's more a matter of focusing on doing it than worrying about doing it untouched.
Very interesting. How hard did you find it? Just curious since you don’t see it as unfair, just challenging. What team did you use?
The more you persist, the more you prove my point about the purpose of that line of questioning. The conversation is moving on because it's not one that we are having.
As long as you persist voicing an opinion about which you know nothing I’ll call you out. Or you can call my bluff and put a stop to it very easily. But you won’t because you can’t.
The more you persist, the more you prove my point about the purpose of that line of questioning. The conversation is moving on because it's not one that we are having.
Since you keep dodging LeNoir's question, I assume you haven't even touched her. As a player, your comments would arguably have no value to me and in this case, they definitely don't. As a curious person, have you ever once disagreed with Kabam's decision? Or do you just enjoy playing devil's advocate every chance you get?
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Yes. It's been mentioned that Resources will be reimbursed if you used them fighting her pre-adjustment. You just have to open a Support Ticket.
Actually Master got nerfed...
No, in this case I think it is a legitimate question. If you are offering grounded wisdom on the relative difficulty of a quest, whether it's an appropriate difficulty, whether it can be done with skill, etc., it ought to be content you are capable of doing. I'm not saying you aren't I honestly have no idea. But most people would answer the question especially if the answer is "yes". If you haven't fought Ice Phoenix on the uncollected quest you probably shouldn't have much to say on the subject. Glad you are in favor of the adjustment. Shame you didn't weigh in prior to it because I guarantee you would have been in favor of the per-adjusted version also.
No. It's not a legitimate question. We're discussing whether Unavoidable Damage is fair or not. Sorry, but this Forum does not require people to qualify for discussions. The subject comes up repeatedly, and it's not appropriate for a debate.
No, you are offering opinions on how beatable it is, the nature of the skill involved. Statements like "it's really not that dire for me. It's not impossible to beat. It just means you have to do it as quickly and as skillfully as possible. No one ever promised we would end every Fight without taking Damage. Lol. " No one wants to hear this from someone that can't beat it, and if you won't say whether or not you can, than you can't. Maybe you just shouldn't have a lot to say to people struggling with a quest if you can't beat it yourself. Are you even uncollected?
No, it's not OK. There are some topics that are appropriate for anyone to discuss. There are others that require experience. It's one thing to weigh in. It's another thing to keep posting on something you know nothing about. That is abuse of the forum. It's not a "last resort" it's a legitimate question for anyone offering advice and opinions on topics that require some knowledge. Your refusal to answer the question on the grounds that it's a "last resort" is in fact a last resort for people pontificating on things about which they are unqualified to have an opinion. I sincerely hope you are moving on @GroundedWisdom. No one has "exposed you," but I think you just exposed yourself.
She was OK. Only fought her once so far. Used a R4 5* Starky. Only needed one try and she was easier then most stuff in 5.3. She had no BS Buffs except the unaviodable damage.
That's only human, I guess?
Please see https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/36501/king-groot-cannot-shrugg-off-debuff#latest
Dude, stop slamming salts. Stay with energy drinks and stuff...
Well, yes. Human, and common to this community. Not that I would criticize anyone's right to their feedback and concerns. Just a certain irony. For the longest time, people wanted another Difficulty, and said Master was too easy. Now that we have one, it's seen as unfair. Unavoidable Damage isn't new to the game at this point. The harder the content, the more Damage will be incurred. It gives a challenge either way. Otherwise it's the same type of content being released, and no matter how many Buffs or Nodes are added, it doesn't present much of a challenge to the demographic doing it. I don't see it as unfair. Just more challenging. It's more a matter of focusing on doing it than worrying about doing it untouched.
Very interesting. How hard did you find it? Just curious since you don’t see it as unfair, just challenging. What team did you use?
Since you keep dodging LeNoir's question, I assume you haven't even touched her. As a player, your comments would arguably have no value to me and in this case, they definitely don't. As a curious person, have you ever once disagreed with Kabam's decision? Or do you just enjoy playing devil's advocate every chance you get?