The difficulty increase is ridiculous

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  • Spurgeon14Spurgeon14 Member Posts: 1,665 ★★★★
    Jefechuta said:

    Really love Sasquatch and Korg being on the tech EQ path.

    Already talked about this a lot of times, Kabam puts champs that are immune to the EQ nodes
    I don't understand though...why were Sasquatch and Korg hard with these nodes? They weren't immune to the nodes...🤔
  • kus234kus234 Member Posts: 267 ★★
    Just explored map 1 and map2 of TB difficulty found not much difficult ..
  • ReignkingTWReignkingTW Member Posts: 2,774 ★★★★★

    Jefechuta said:

    Really love Sasquatch and Korg being on the tech EQ path.

    Already talked about this a lot of times, Kabam puts champs that are immune to the EQ nodes
    I don't understand though...why were Sasquatch and Korg hard with these nodes? They weren't immune to the nodes...🤔
    I could be mistaken but tech doesn't have good counters for them. They've been doing this type of mismatch for months, said they would "look into it", but they keep doing it.
  • phil56201phil56201 Member Posts: 986 ★★★
    misterx38 said:

    phil56201 said:

    You’re talking about this difficulty?



    How could that be too difficult? Especially if you have the roster to complete this level of EQ on auto fight...??

    why not put a picture that is not from the first mission? besides that power may look funny with your account, but it is supposed to be for people who can not yet become irreclamable, how are they supposed to be able to pass that?
    No, I actually agree. I made my initial post when I was doing thew new TB difficulty, which seems like a reskinned Cav difficulty with higher health pools. I haven't done Master and below for so long, that those PI's didn't look off to me. I just went into the 1st quest, took that screenshot, and quit out.

    Had to look for an example on Youtube and found a video from a year ago. There has indeed been quite a bump. I didn't remember Master having such low PI defenders, but there it is...


  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,481 ★★★★★
    Not every Champ is going to be a perfect match for the Bonus. It's also possible to do without the Bonus. Occasionally, there will be some more challenging than others.
  • DshuDshu Member Posts: 1,504 ★★★★

    Not every Champ is going to be a perfect match for the Bonus. It's also possible to do without the Bonus. Occasionally, there will be some more challenging than others.

    Not sure if you have completed thronebreaker eq but most of these lanes could be completed faster with an aegon team than the chemps with the chapter boosts. Using the class boosts from the node still averaged around 175- 200 hits with a rank 3 6* or maxed 5* which most thronebreakers are still using
  • ESFESF Member Posts: 2,011 ★★★★★

    ESF said:

    OK. I went into Uncollected EQ, Chapter 1. Here’s the team I took:



    Keep in mind, this is the Science Ascendancy quest — I am not getting the Attack boost. This is just me, just playing.

    Rhino lane, 5/50 Professor X, so I can get the Mutant/X-Men Special Attack boost:





    I lost Iceman to the Tigra, because of a dropped input. Just the truth. But it actually worked out OK because I could vulture another Persistent Charge for Professor X.

    Next up: Drax. Took him solo with Professor X, picking up another Persistent Charge, but I forgot the photo.

    Next up: Doctor Octopus, with, as you can see, a 3/30 Magneto:





    Seriously: What are we even talking about, here?

    Yes, it is more challenging. It is. About 80K-110K health pools.

    But you can literally clear it with 4-stars! I didn’t even have the Science Ascendancy attack boost going — I shudder to think what a Scorpion or IHulk or IBom would do with a 30 PERCENT ATTACK BOOST.

    Come on, people — I am not even a very good player. I have some skill and experience, but there are absolutely a ton of players who are better than me.

    What are we even talking about, here?

    You lost 60% health on a single fight against a Rhino and 20% on another one with Magneto against Doc Oc (#metal btw). Why don't you go fight the 25k Knull and 25k Sinister on UC 3.2 and see if you manage to even do those fights in one go each.
    More importantly, you think you're gonna take out a Zemo with a 200k health pool who crits through blocks, roots you just for hitting him and has protection with those champs and with that amount of health left? Don't even get me started on Absorbing Man's 210k health pool cause there ain't no way you're gonna outdamage his regen with those champs. You're right, what are we even talking about lmao you're delusional.
    So, i just want to try to understand this. Me beating the Doctor Octopus with a 3/30 Magneto doesn’t count?

    Are you saying that UC cannot be cleared with 4-stars? No boosts. That’s totally fine. I certainly wouldn’t burn my Revive stash on this.

    But I am just trying to make sure I understand what it is that you’re saying — you’re making the point that the five characters I grabbed couldn’t clear UC? Because that isn’t what I said.

    Are you saying that 4-stars cannot clear UC? Because that is what I said, and I would either be right or wrong about that, but you saying “those champs” when I clearly wasn’t saying that I would use those five characters is disingenuous

  • JefechutaJefechuta Member Posts: 1,212 ★★★★

    Jefechuta said:

    Really love Sasquatch and Korg being on the tech EQ path.

    Already talked about this a lot of times, Kabam puts champs that are immune to the EQ nodes
    I don't understand though...why were Sasquatch and Korg hard with these nodes? They weren't immune to the nodes...🤔
    I didnt do this one yet, but I remember a Nebula fight in a Tech Node where you had to do Shock to get furys, so that fight would be just a normal fight where you had a disadvantage.
  • TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,075 ★★★★★
    This reminds me of when they “revamped” map 6 and it was a fiasco for like a month with the attack nerfs and power snack nodes.
  • HulkbusterN1HulkbusterN1 Member Posts: 231 ★★
    People who are not agree with current difficulties just didn’t see act 6 pre-nerf🤓
  • ESFESF Member Posts: 2,011 ★★★★★
    First quest done; here’s the team I used. Cleared the Magik lane; certainly nobody who plays the game consistently doubts that this team of 4-stars could do it — and I don’t cheat, regardless.

    Notes: OG Black Widow was the MVP here. Needed Malik’s Limbo, Spider-Man’s Evade, and Human Torch’s reciprocal Incinerate shut down, and that’s what that kit does.

    Void did die, on the Ghost boss. I just wanted to see how well his 4/40 damage would scale, how long it would take, just for my own testing. I had the full team there, with plenty of health except for OG Black Widow who had maybe 6 or 7 percent left. So it was never in doubt — Hercules was sitting there on the bench, ready to clean it up if something got ridiculous.

    Huge note: There’s something messed up about the control input. That won’t be an excuse, if I don’t clear UC.

    But it is seriously annoying and jacked up that the input control problem sends you flying toward the opponent or skittering backward, out of nowhere. I defend Kabam a lot because I understand that they don’t want it to happen, but at the same time, that is something the game can’t have. There’s got to be some kind of way to address it. It really is a problem.

    Some screenshots:






    On to the Modok chapter; curious how Wags might do, just from an initial look


  • ESFESF Member Posts: 2,011 ★★★★★

    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    OK. I went into Uncollected EQ, Chapter 1. Here’s the team I took:



    Keep in mind, this is the Science Ascendancy quest — I am not getting the Attack boost. This is just me, just playing.

    Rhino lane, 5/50 Professor X, so I can get the Mutant/X-Men Special Attack boost:





    I lost Iceman to the Tigra, because of a dropped input. Just the truth. But it actually worked out OK because I could vulture another Persistent Charge for Professor X.

    Next up: Drax. Took him solo with Professor X, picking up another Persistent Charge, but I forgot the photo.

    Next up: Doctor Octopus, with, as you can see, a 3/30 Magneto:





    Seriously: What are we even talking about, here?

    Yes, it is more challenging. It is. About 80K-110K health pools.

    But you can literally clear it with 4-stars! I didn’t even have the Science Ascendancy attack boost going — I shudder to think what a Scorpion or IHulk or IBom would do with a 30 PERCENT ATTACK BOOST.

    Come on, people — I am not even a very good player. I have some skill and experience, but there are absolutely a ton of players who are better than me.

    What are we even talking about, here?

    You lost 60% health on a single fight against a Rhino and 20% on another one with Magneto against Doc Oc (#metal btw). Why don't you go fight the 25k Knull and 25k Sinister on UC 3.2 and see if you manage to even do those fights in one go each.
    More importantly, you think you're gonna take out a Zemo with a 200k health pool who crits through blocks, roots you just for hitting him and has protection with those champs and with that amount of health left? Don't even get me started on Absorbing Man's 210k health pool cause there ain't no way you're gonna outdamage his regen with those champs. You're right, what are we even talking about lmao you're delusional.
    So, i just want to try to understand this. Me beating the Doctor Octopus with a 3/30 Magneto doesn’t count?

    Are you saying that UC cannot be cleared with 4-stars? No boosts. That’s totally fine. I certainly wouldn’t burn my Revive stash on this.

    But I am just trying to make sure I understand what it is that you’re saying — you’re making the point that the five characters I grabbed couldn’t clear UC? Because that isn’t what I said.

    Are you saying that 4-stars cannot clear UC? Because that is what I said, and I would either be right or wrong about that, but you saying “those champs” when I clearly wasn’t saying that I would use those five characters is disingenuous

    Nope, what this means is that if you're losing 60% health per fight on the first quest from the EQ how exactly are you planning on clearing the rest of the path and the boss with no revives. Or even better, how are you planning on clearing the last chapter that has 23k-26k PI champs if you couldn't even beat a 13k one without losing any health? It's so easy according to you right? Lmao

    Yes, UC can't be cleared without revives and boosts, the last two chapters at least. First can be done if you're good but last two are absolutely impossible because of the nodes and the health pools.

    What you said? You literally said on that post that you can clear out the content with 4* even though the health pools are big, and before you pull the "I was being sarcastic" card you also told somebody else on this same thread to stop acting like the content can't be cleared with a developing roster. Furthermore, you sided with GroundedWisdom over here, someone who thinks the changes are fair and people need to "grow into them".
    Let’s find out, then — I am not the best player in the game. I wasn’t being sarcastic.

    Here’s the bet: Nothing but 4-stars.

    Parameters:

    What I can do:
    I can use any 4-star.
    I can use health potions.

    What I can’t do:
    I cannot use revives.
    I cannot use boosts.

    The stakes:
    For you: Absolutely nothing. It will cost you nothing, if I can or can’t do it.

    For me: If I can do it? I get nothing. Nothing at all.

    If I can’t do it? I will close my Forum account. Won’t post here again.

    So now, we’ll see — and please don’t come on here if I do it and say “how do I know you did,” because again: It’s costing you NOTHING. I don’t cheat. I am a solo player. I have never said that I am an elite player.

    Either I can do it, or I can’t.

    So we’ll see.
    You had me until you said "I can use health potions". You lost 60% health against a 13k Rhino guy how many health potions you gonna use per path 5? If you do the math that's more than 100 health potions to 100% the entire EQ. Using a ton of health potions to clear content is not viable nor is it worth it considering health potions aren't exactly cheap (garbage ones that give 10% or 20% health are for obvious reasons useless). Not to mention, you obviously have a well developed roster and will probably have counters for a couple hard fights, someone who just hit UC will not, so whether you can 100% the EQ or not doesn't matter because the newer players still won't be able to pull it off which is the entire problem with EQ right now.

    The stakes: maybe you'll shut up and stop trying to argue against something that even Kabam Jax already acknowledged.

    You may not be a cheater but you certainly are a liar, or at the very least someone who back tracks a lot. So, if you "do it" (without using a gazillion health potions), I'm still not gonna believe it lol and I doubt anyone on these forums will.
    So now you’re whining? Seriously? You’re gonna whine now?

    I said it could be cleared with 4-stars. Period. I never said “explored.” I never said “timeless.”

    I literally said I wouldn’t use Boosts or Revives.

    There’s nothing I said to backtrack. You came in here and said the Baron Zemo and Absorbing Man couldn’t be done, so what are you whining about?
  • ESFESF Member Posts: 2,011 ★★★★★
    edited January 2023
    If it

    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    OK. I went into Uncollected EQ, Chapter 1. Here’s the team I took:



    Keep in mind, this is the Science Ascendancy quest — I am not getting the Attack boost. This is just me, just playing.

    Rhino lane, 5/50 Professor X, so I can get the Mutant/X-Men Special Attack boost:





    I lost Iceman to the Tigra, because of a dropped input. Just the truth. But it actually worked out OK because I could vulture another Persistent Charge for Professor X.

    Next up: Drax. Took him solo with Professor X, picking up another Persistent Charge, but I forgot the photo.

    Next up: Doctor Octopus, with, as you can see, a 3/30 Magneto:





    Seriously: What are we even talking about, here?

    Yes, it is more challenging. It is. About 80K-110K health pools.

    But you can literally clear it with 4-stars! I didn’t even have the Science Ascendancy attack boost going — I shudder to think what a Scorpion or IHulk or IBom would do with a 30 PERCENT ATTACK BOOST.

    Come on, people — I am not even a very good player. I have some skill and experience, but there are absolutely a ton of players who are better than me.

    What are we even talking about, here?

    You lost 60% health on a single fight against a Rhino and 20% on another one with Magneto against Doc Oc (#metal btw). Why don't you go fight the 25k Knull and 25k Sinister on UC 3.2 and see if you manage to even do those fights in one go each.
    More importantly, you think you're gonna take out a Zemo with a 200k health pool who crits through blocks, roots you just for hitting him and has protection with those champs and with that amount of health left? Don't even get me started on Absorbing Man's 210k health pool cause there ain't no way you're gonna outdamage his regen with those champs. You're right, what are we even talking about lmao you're delusional.
    So, i just want to try to understand this. Me beating the Doctor Octopus with a 3/30 Magneto doesn’t count?

    Are you saying that UC cannot be cleared with 4-stars? No boosts. That’s totally fine. I certainly wouldn’t burn my Revive stash on this.

    But I am just trying to make sure I understand what it is that you’re saying — you’re making the point that the five characters I grabbed couldn’t clear UC? Because that isn’t what I said.

    Are you saying that 4-stars cannot clear UC? Because that is what I said, and I would either be right or wrong about that, but you saying “those champs” when I clearly wasn’t saying that I would use those five characters is disingenuous

    Nope, what this means is that if you're losing 60% health per fight on the first quest from the EQ how exactly are you planning on clearing the rest of the path and the boss with no revives. Or even better, how are you planning on clearing the last chapter that has 23k-26k PI champs if you couldn't even beat a 13k one without losing any health? It's so easy according to you right? Lmao

    Yes, UC can't be cleared without revives and boosts, the last two chapters at least. First can be done if you're good but last two are absolutely impossible because of the nodes and the health pools.

    What you said? You literally said on that post that you can clear out the content with 4* even though the health pools are big, and before you pull the "I was being sarcastic" card you also told somebody else on this same thread to stop acting like the content can't be cleared with a developing roster. Furthermore, you sided with GroundedWisdom over here, someone who thinks the changes are fair and people need to "grow into them".
    Let’s find out, then — I am not the best player in the game. I wasn’t being sarcastic.

    Here’s the bet: Nothing but 4-stars.

    Parameters:

    What I can do:
    I can use any 4-star.
    I can use health potions.

    What I can’t do:
    I cannot use revives.
    I cannot use boosts.

    The stakes:
    For you: Absolutely nothing. It will cost you nothing, if I can or can’t do it.

    For me: If I can do it? I get nothing. Nothing at all.

    If I can’t do it? I will close my Forum account. Won’t post here again.

    So now, we’ll see — and please don’t come on here if I do it and say “how do I know you did,” because again: It’s costing you NOTHING. I don’t cheat. I am a solo player. I have never said that I am an elite player.

    Either I can do it, or I can’t.

    So we’ll see.
    You had me until you said "I can use health potions". You lost 60% health against a 13k Rhino guy how many health potions you gonna use per path 5? If you do the math that's more than 100 health potions to 100% the entire EQ. Using a ton of health potions to clear content is not viable nor is it worth it considering health potions aren't exactly cheap (garbage ones that give 10% or 20% health are for obvious reasons useless). Not to mention, you obviously have a well developed roster and will probably have counters for a couple hard fights, someone who just hit UC will not, so whether you can 100% the EQ or not doesn't matter because the newer players still won't be able to pull it off which is the entire problem with EQ right now.

    The stakes: maybe you'll shut up and stop trying to argue against something that even Kabam Jax already acknowledged.

    You may not be a cheater but you certainly are a liar, or at the very least someone who back tracks a lot. So, if you "do it" (without using a gazillion health potions), I'm still not gonna believe it lol and I doubt anyone on these forums will.
    If it can’t be done like you said, then what are you worried about?

    It costs you nothing, either way
  • ESFESF Member Posts: 2,011 ★★★★★

    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    OK. I went into Uncollected EQ, Chapter 1. Here’s the team I took:



    Keep in mind, this is the Science Ascendancy quest — I am not getting the Attack boost. This is just me, just playing.

    Rhino lane, 5/50 Professor X, so I can get the Mutant/X-Men Special Attack boost:





    I lost Iceman to the Tigra, because of a dropped input. Just the truth. But it actually worked out OK because I could vulture another Persistent Charge for Professor X.

    Next up: Drax. Took him solo with Professor X, picking up another Persistent Charge, but I forgot the photo.

    Next up: Doctor Octopus, with, as you can see, a 3/30 Magneto:





    Seriously: What are we even talking about, here?

    Yes, it is more challenging. It is. About 80K-110K health pools.

    But you can literally clear it with 4-stars! I didn’t even have the Science Ascendancy attack boost going — I shudder to think what a Scorpion or IHulk or IBom would do with a 30 PERCENT ATTACK BOOST.

    Come on, people — I am not even a very good player. I have some skill and experience, but there are absolutely a ton of players who are better than me.

    What are we even talking about, here?

    You lost 60% health on a single fight against a Rhino and 20% on another one with Magneto against Doc Oc (#metal btw). Why don't you go fight the 25k Knull and 25k Sinister on UC 3.2 and see if you manage to even do those fights in one go each.
    More importantly, you think you're gonna take out a Zemo with a 200k health pool who crits through blocks, roots you just for hitting him and has protection with those champs and with that amount of health left? Don't even get me started on Absorbing Man's 210k health pool cause there ain't no way you're gonna outdamage his regen with those champs. You're right, what are we even talking about lmao you're delusional.
    So, i just want to try to understand this. Me beating the Doctor Octopus with a 3/30 Magneto doesn’t count?

    Are you saying that UC cannot be cleared with 4-stars? No boosts. That’s totally fine. I certainly wouldn’t burn my Revive stash on this.

    But I am just trying to make sure I understand what it is that you’re saying — you’re making the point that the five characters I grabbed couldn’t clear UC? Because that isn’t what I said.

    Are you saying that 4-stars cannot clear UC? Because that is what I said, and I would either be right or wrong about that, but you saying “those champs” when I clearly wasn’t saying that I would use those five characters is disingenuous

    Nope, what this means is that if you're losing 60% health per fight on the first quest from the EQ how exactly are you planning on clearing the rest of the path and the boss with no revives. Or even better, how are you planning on clearing the last chapter that has 23k-26k PI champs if you couldn't even beat a 13k one without losing any health? It's so easy according to you right? Lmao

    Yes, UC can't be cleared without revives and boosts, the last two chapters at least. First can be done if you're good but last two are absolutely impossible because of the nodes and the health pools.

    What you said? You literally said on that post that you can clear out the content with 4* even though the health pools are big, and before you pull the "I was being sarcastic" card you also told somebody else on this same thread to stop acting like the content can't be cleared with a developing roster. Furthermore, you sided with GroundedWisdom over here, someone who thinks the changes are fair and people need to "grow into them".
    Let’s find out, then — I am not the best player in the game. I wasn’t being sarcastic.

    Here’s the bet: Nothing but 4-stars.

    Parameters:

    What I can do:
    I can use any 4-star.
    I can use health potions.

    What I can’t do:
    I cannot use revives.
    I cannot use boosts.

    The stakes:
    For you: Absolutely nothing. It will cost you nothing, if I can or can’t do it.

    For me: If I can do it? I get nothing. Nothing at all.

    If I can’t do it? I will close my Forum account. Won’t post here again.

    So now, we’ll see — and please don’t come on here if I do it and say “how do I know you did,” because again: It’s costing you NOTHING. I don’t cheat. I am a solo player. I have never said that I am an elite player.

    Either I can do it, or I can’t.

    So we’ll see.
    You had me until you said "I can use health potions". You lost 60% health against a 13k Rhino guy how many health potions you gonna use per path 5? If you do the math that's more than 100 health potions to 100% the entire EQ. Using a ton of health potions to clear content is not viable nor is it worth it considering health potions aren't exactly cheap (garbage ones that give 10% or 20% health are for obvious reasons useless). Not to mention, you obviously have a well developed roster and will probably have counters for a couple hard fights, someone who just hit UC will not, so whether you can 100% the EQ or not doesn't matter because the newer players still won't be able to pull it off which is the entire problem with EQ right now.

    The stakes: maybe you'll shut up and stop trying to argue against something that even Kabam Jax already acknowledged.

    You may not be a cheater but you certainly are a liar, or at the very least someone who back tracks a lot. So, if you "do it" (without using a gazillion health potions), I'm still not gonna believe it lol and I doubt anyone on these forums will.
    So now you’re whining? Seriously? You’re gonna whine now?

    I said it could be cleared with 4-stars. Period. I never said “explored.” I never said “timeless.”

    I literally said I wouldn’t use Boosts or Revives.

    There’s nothing I said to backtrack. You came in here and said the Baron Zemo and Absorbing Man couldn’t be done, so what are you whining about?

    Of course you can clear it once with 4* taking the easiest paths you genius but what is clearing the EQ once gonna do for a player when the best rewards are the completion ones? Big brain argument right there. Do you not see how wrong it is that you have to use health potions on every single path just to clear the damn thing once? Lmao.

    You did say you were gonna use health potions though, which is also dumb because if you have to use health potions on every path (even the easiest ones) then the difficulty did get overtuned.

    That's not what I said, what I said was how are you gonna clear the rest of the paths and the bosses when you lost 60% health on a single fight, can you read?
    Yeah, I absolutely can read. You said it couldn’t be done, but now you want to say “Of course it could be done on the easy paths,” but let me ask you this:

    What does that have to do the the Zemo and Absorbing Man, who you said couldn’t be done — and I haven’t even tried it yet. I have no idea if I can.

    So either I wasn’t “delusional” when I said it could be cleared with 4-stars. Right? That’s what you called me, right?

    Or if I can’t clear it, then I can’t clear it and I was “delusional.”
  • ESFESF Member Posts: 2,011 ★★★★★

    ESF said:

    If it

    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    ESF said:

    OK. I went into Uncollected EQ, Chapter 1. Here’s the team I took:



    Keep in mind, this is the Science Ascendancy quest — I am not getting the Attack boost. This is just me, just playing.

    Rhino lane, 5/50 Professor X, so I can get the Mutant/X-Men Special Attack boost:





    I lost Iceman to the Tigra, because of a dropped input. Just the truth. But it actually worked out OK because I could vulture another Persistent Charge for Professor X.

    Next up: Drax. Took him solo with Professor X, picking up another Persistent Charge, but I forgot the photo.

    Next up: Doctor Octopus, with, as you can see, a 3/30 Magneto:





    Seriously: What are we even talking about, here?

    Yes, it is more challenging. It is. About 80K-110K health pools.

    But you can literally clear it with 4-stars! I didn’t even have the Science Ascendancy attack boost going — I shudder to think what a Scorpion or IHulk or IBom would do with a 30 PERCENT ATTACK BOOST.

    Come on, people — I am not even a very good player. I have some skill and experience, but there are absolutely a ton of players who are better than me.

    What are we even talking about, here?

    You lost 60% health on a single fight against a Rhino and 20% on another one with Magneto against Doc Oc (#metal btw). Why don't you go fight the 25k Knull and 25k Sinister on UC 3.2 and see if you manage to even do those fights in one go each.
    More importantly, you think you're gonna take out a Zemo with a 200k health pool who crits through blocks, roots you just for hitting him and has protection with those champs and with that amount of health left? Don't even get me started on Absorbing Man's 210k health pool cause there ain't no way you're gonna outdamage his regen with those champs. You're right, what are we even talking about lmao you're delusional.
    So, i just want to try to understand this. Me beating the Doctor Octopus with a 3/30 Magneto doesn’t count?

    Are you saying that UC cannot be cleared with 4-stars? No boosts. That’s totally fine. I certainly wouldn’t burn my Revive stash on this.

    But I am just trying to make sure I understand what it is that you’re saying — you’re making the point that the five characters I grabbed couldn’t clear UC? Because that isn’t what I said.

    Are you saying that 4-stars cannot clear UC? Because that is what I said, and I would either be right or wrong about that, but you saying “those champs” when I clearly wasn’t saying that I would use those five characters is disingenuous

    Nope, what this means is that if you're losing 60% health per fight on the first quest from the EQ how exactly are you planning on clearing the rest of the path and the boss with no revives. Or even better, how are you planning on clearing the last chapter that has 23k-26k PI champs if you couldn't even beat a 13k one without losing any health? It's so easy according to you right? Lmao

    Yes, UC can't be cleared without revives and boosts, the last two chapters at least. First can be done if you're good but last two are absolutely impossible because of the nodes and the health pools.

    What you said? You literally said on that post that you can clear out the content with 4* even though the health pools are big, and before you pull the "I was being sarcastic" card you also told somebody else on this same thread to stop acting like the content can't be cleared with a developing roster. Furthermore, you sided with GroundedWisdom over here, someone who thinks the changes are fair and people need to "grow into them".
    Let’s find out, then — I am not the best player in the game. I wasn’t being sarcastic.

    Here’s the bet: Nothing but 4-stars.

    Parameters:

    What I can do:
    I can use any 4-star.
    I can use health potions.

    What I can’t do:
    I cannot use revives.
    I cannot use boosts.

    The stakes:
    For you: Absolutely nothing. It will cost you nothing, if I can or can’t do it.

    For me: If I can do it? I get nothing. Nothing at all.

    If I can’t do it? I will close my Forum account. Won’t post here again.

    So now, we’ll see — and please don’t come on here if I do it and say “how do I know you did,” because again: It’s costing you NOTHING. I don’t cheat. I am a solo player. I have never said that I am an elite player.

    Either I can do it, or I can’t.

    So we’ll see.
    You had me until you said "I can use health potions". You lost 60% health against a 13k Rhino guy how many health potions you gonna use per path 5? If you do the math that's more than 100 health potions to 100% the entire EQ. Using a ton of health potions to clear content is not viable nor is it worth it considering health potions aren't exactly cheap (garbage ones that give 10% or 20% health are for obvious reasons useless). Not to mention, you obviously have a well developed roster and will probably have counters for a couple hard fights, someone who just hit UC will not, so whether you can 100% the EQ or not doesn't matter because the newer players still won't be able to pull it off which is the entire problem with EQ right now.

    The stakes: maybe you'll shut up and stop trying to argue against something that even Kabam Jax already acknowledged.

    You may not be a cheater but you certainly are a liar, or at the very least someone who back tracks a lot. So, if you "do it" (without using a gazillion health potions), I'm still not gonna believe it lol and I doubt anyone on these forums will.
    If it can’t be done like you said, then what are you worried about?

    It costs you nothing, either way
    It can be done with the right counters and taking the easiest paths. However, a player who doesn't have a developed roster will still not be able to do it because they won't have good counters, which is the entire problem here, you're so dense.
    So when people said “you can grow into the content,” what was incorrect about that?

    That’s literally how some of us had to learn how to play the game — nobody gave some of us 4-stars, let alone 5-stars and 6-stars. There was no Autofight.

    All I said was that UC could be cleared with 4-stars — which maybe I am wrong! You said it couldn’t be done! — but that doesn’t change the fact that there’s no law that anyone has to 100 percent every single piece of content every single minute of every single month.
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