Compensation for those who have recently completed act6. People are going to be mad...
I m happy about those changes but why are the easiest changes not live already ? I mean, decreasing atk from a global node is not a big deal, is it ? Completing act6 is very time consuming, the fastest it is live, the better
Agreed. I feel like some of those changes could be immediate. Such as deleting the no retreat link to Champion and decreasing attack values across the board. In theory it seems like those would be very quick and easy to do. Then work on updates to the rest over time. However, I will admit that is me being selfish as I am right in the middle of Act 6 exploration.
Compensation for earlier acts being on a fixed timeframe makes sense since someone who turned cavalier has no use for act 2 rewards. On the other hand compensation for act 6 should have no timeframe. There should be no "recently". The rest of the stuff looks quite good and promising!
I was really hoping to at least see the Attack value reduction and The Champion fight redesign very soon so I can continue with my act 6 exploration...
The compensation needs to be hefty for the those who already 100% act 6. I probably spent 300 USD to 100 percent that champion chapter. And another 2k USD between 6.2, 6.3, and 6.4. I understand compensation won’t be close to that but you guys need to stop Nerfing old content.
Dude how selfish are you? You want other people to go through the same pain as you? Be quiet and stop complaining imagine you hadn’t cleared it yet because you found it hard and then people complain saying iT sHoUlDnT bE nErFeD bEcAuSe i dId iT wHeN iT wAs hArD.grow up don’t complain about other people getting a easier time
That's not bein selfish, its realizing that people who put if off and used their units for something else are at a big advantage if those who already completed it aren't compensated.
Perhaps you misread me I’m all for asking for compensation for act 6 but I think it’s stupid that people are complaining about it getting nerfed because they had to do it at a higher level. I repeat again I’m all for people who did act 6 initially before the nerf to get compensated but complaining saying it shouldn’t be nerfed is plain stupid
Overall, pretty awesome and exciting stuff coming around.
The removal of the "Node Retreat" node from The Champion is a good change as well, but kinda makes me regret a bit for spending a good amount of units trying to complete it. It was the only fight on act 6 that made me use units actually.
I don't think the compensation will cover that for me, but I guess I'll wait to see what will be announced
Rarely post on here but I want to say thank you Kabam and developers for addressing our Act 6 concerns and for planning new, exciting stuff for the months to come! Looking forward to when they go live in the game.
With 6.2 being most player's progression bottleneck I welcome this news. I realise that it's probably too much work to rework the entirety of Act 6 and re-tuning attack values and nerfing the worst encounters is the best that we can hope for. I hope that Act 6 is the act where the player shows their ability, demonstrates their depth of roster and (limitless wallets) and Book 2 is all about celebrating champions and offering rewards for unique play-styles etc.
When the initial Book 2 Beta came out I was actually very surprised, I had anticipated October or so for the next iteration of story mode to give the chance for players outside of the true behemoths of the game to get through it fully. It looked rushed and more of the same amped up to 1000. I've played all of the Variants so I know what you're all capable of producing when you put your mind to it so I'm optimistic about Book 2.
Roll on Variant 5, I'm also very curious to see just what you have in store for the whales. Make them suffer
I was really hoping to at least see the Attack value reduction and The Champion fight redesign very soon so I can continue with my act 6 exploration...
Couldn't agree more. Im sure there are plenty of others that are stuck here due to not having the right champs. Action sooner rather than later on this particular item would be greatly appreciated. That champion fight is just stupid hard. I like a challenge and all, but that fight is ridiculous.
Is the compensation only for people who've completed act 6 or 6.2? Cause I did the sinister quest but haven't done champion boss, will I be compensated? Not a problem even if I'm not,lol I'm just happy about the champion nerf. But would still like to know.
The changes are great! Really good to see they listened on improvements needed.
As most are already mentioning though, what happens to those of us that did 100% act 6 with attack values way above tier from what they will soon be? That’s a lot more revives and pots used then it will take in the future so it definitely warrants asking for something. And if I don’t get crystals or revives/pots, even a legendary title for clearing it pre-Nerf would be nice 😂
Last bit, I didn’t see anything on abyss. This challenge is 100% a cash grab and I think there’s small tweaks that could make it better. For example, instead of making champs go unblockable & unstoppable after a certain amount of hits, why not just unblockable? It’s still a tough challenge at that point but at least makes it do able for skilled players to not just quit the fight when it turns impossible. Food for thought.
So I’m glad you guy have addressed but am I the only one who feels unimpressed? The wording is great, the suspense for all was cool but even though the words are there I don’t feel any satisfaction from the announcements today.
Act 6: thank you for lowering the attack values. That’s amazing and needed. Thanks again. But a date wasn’t given? So right now it’s just another suspenseful wait. The nodes being looked at, that’s cool but at least give us a few examples of what your idea are like “mysterio acid wash, we are going to change that to do you even bleed with blah blah”.
Champion fight; solid changes, I 100% this but glad to see this for the guys who can’t or were even afraid to touch it. Really good changes.
Book 2: happy to see this and an actual date given! Perfect. Getting dates is what excites me.
Cavalier: that’ll be fun and can’t wait.
Boss rush: that’ll be fun, need to see the nodes before I get excited.
War: this is where the disappointed kicks in. The p4 rewards and below are so bad. You guys upped everything for the top spenders in the game but for the guys who spend a little or are free to play (a lot are in p4 or below) this does almost nothing. The disparity between p3 and p4 is so minimal in difficulty but huge in rewards is crazy. The t5b is fine but 5k 6 star compared to 10? That’s crazy. At least give us 7500.
I don’t even want to get started on the nodes, tactics.
Rather them give units than what you said. I agree that the attack value reduction is quite a bit and a lot of units would have been saved on revives, but the compensation you've written is too much imo.
@Kabam Miike can we please get confirmation act 6 compensation doesn’t have a time limit
There is no information on Act 6 compensation yet, at all. But I can say that we are going to treat it differently than the one for Acts 1 and 2., There might have to be different tiers, or it may be something completely different. There is no information yet.
2 things I wish they had addressed: First, we should be able to do more than 1 quest at a time as long as we dont use the same heroes. Second, for the really long fights, how about letting us save our progress and complete it later. Seeing a great player like Seatin play for hours just to finish 1 pathway in AoL is kind of discouraging.
@Kabam Miike can we please get confirmation act 6 compensation doesn’t have a time limit
There is no information on Act 6 compensation yet, at all. But I can say that we are going to treat it differently than the one for Acts 1 and 2., There might have to be different tiers, or it may be something completely different. There is no information yet.
Thank you for answering this and being transparent about it!
The first cavalier difficulty tests are arriving the next two months and are called Canadian and Herald difficulty? I thought the first cavalier test arrived this month, wasn’t it called epic difficulty? *insert Seinfeld music here*
This reads really promising. Hearing a theme from the comments on compensation and the 3 month note. Any help here @Kabam Miike ? Will there be a 3-month warning or similar? I only have a couple paths to go, and I'd really like to try to complete it before the 3-month cutoff to be eligible for the compensation. Understanding a date would help me figure out how much time I have to attack it.
Its a sales pitch not a fix. We need timelines not promises.
"Trust but verify" -Ronald Reagan
I agree with you 100%. Plus, anything can sound good on paper, but when it comes to actual gameplay, is a different story. Just like people thought Anihilus and Emma Frost were going to be top 5 champions based on what was read. Then they actually played them, and a different story. Granted, Emma is not bad by any means, just not the second coming of Scarlet Witch like people thought.
It's a roadmap. Just an outline. They can't give specifics if they're not locked in yet. To be fair, I doubt many of us were expecting an ignition this fast.
Its a sales pitch not a fix. We need timelines not promises.
"Trust but verify" -Ronald Reagan
I agree with you 100%. Plus, anything can sound good on paper, but when it comes to actual gameplay, is a different story. Just like people thought Anihilus and Emma Frost were going to be top 5 champions based on what was read. Then they actually played them, and a different story. Granted, Emma is not bad by any means, just not the second coming of Scarlet Witch like people thought.
It's a roadmap. Just an outline. They can't give specifics if they're not locked in yet. To be fair, I doubt many of us were expecting an ignition this fast.
A road map without clear deadlines. Outside of the Cav difficulty, nothing has been set in stone, and that is a big failing on their part of planning. They built up expectations for this blog post and couldn't even deliver dates during that time.
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The removal of the "Node Retreat" node from The Champion is a good change as well, but kinda makes me regret a bit for spending a good amount of units trying to complete it. It was the only fight on act 6 that made me use units actually.
I don't think the compensation will cover that for me, but I guess I'll wait to see what will be announced
With 6.2 being most player's progression bottleneck I welcome this news. I realise that it's probably too much work to rework the entirety of Act 6 and re-tuning attack values and nerfing the worst encounters is the best that we can hope for. I hope that Act 6 is the act where the player shows their ability, demonstrates their depth of roster and (limitless wallets) and Book 2 is all about celebrating champions and offering rewards for unique play-styles etc.
When the initial Book 2 Beta came out I was actually very surprised, I had anticipated October or so for the next iteration of story mode to give the chance for players outside of the true behemoths of the game to get through it fully. It looked rushed and more of the same amped up to 1000. I've played all of the Variants so I know what you're all capable of producing when you put your mind to it so I'm optimistic about Book 2.
Roll on Variant 5, I'm also very curious to see just what you have in store for the whales. Make them suffer
As most are already mentioning though, what happens to those of us that did 100% act 6 with attack values way above tier from what they will soon be? That’s a lot more revives and pots used then it will take in the future so it definitely warrants asking for something. And if I don’t get crystals or revives/pots, even a legendary title for clearing it pre-Nerf would be nice 😂
Last bit, I didn’t see anything on abyss. This challenge is 100% a cash grab and I think there’s small tweaks that could make it better. For example, instead of making champs go unblockable & unstoppable after a certain amount of hits, why not just unblockable? It’s still a tough challenge at that point but at least makes it do able for skilled players to not just quit the fight when it turns impossible. Food for thought.
Super annoying that Act 6 and 7 related content has no dates or time frames, the longer this takes the more stagnated the game will get.
Damn, that is a big nerf to Act 6. Like huge. I honestly think compensation should be huge as well.
I'm thinking:
4 T5C
12 T2A
4 12.5% T5CC crystals
1 50% T5CC crystal
1 12.5% Selector
1 6* R1>2 Gem
50,000 5* Shards
25,000 6* Shards
That or literally 10,000 Units.
Act 6: thank you for lowering the attack values. That’s amazing and needed. Thanks again. But a date wasn’t given? So right now it’s just another suspenseful wait. The nodes being looked at, that’s cool but at least give us a few examples of what your idea are like “mysterio acid wash, we are going to change that to do you even bleed with blah blah”.
Champion fight; solid changes, I 100% this but glad to see this for the guys who can’t or were even afraid to touch it. Really good changes.
Book 2: happy to see this and an actual date given! Perfect. Getting dates is what excites me.
Cavalier: that’ll be fun and can’t wait.
Boss rush: that’ll be fun, need to see the nodes before I get excited.
War: this is where the disappointed kicks in. The p4 rewards and below are so bad. You guys upped everything for the top spenders in the game but for the guys who spend a little or are free to play (a lot are in p4 or below) this does almost nothing. The disparity between p3 and p4 is so minimal in difficulty but huge in rewards is crazy. The t5b is fine but 5k 6 star compared to 10? That’s crazy. At least give us 7500.
I don’t even want to get started on the nodes, tactics.
First, we should be able to do more than 1 quest at a time as long as we dont use the same heroes.
Second, for the really long fights, how about letting us save our progress and complete it later.
Seeing a great player like Seatin play for hours just to finish 1 pathway in AoL is kind of discouraging.
Any opinions?