The difficulty increase is ridiculous

TyEdge

So given that uncollected rewards are what they are (and don’t even get me started on lower levels) why would anyone explore any of this content when it can’t be done with autofight and the rewards are hopelessly dated? I could throw my energy away 15 at a time in BGs and if I ever advance a rank even once (combined with 2-day objectives) it could rival the rewards I get for spending 1400 energy on uncollected EQ.

Edit: I’m at silver 3. My next level is worth 2250 and I’d get 600 for objectives. 2850 buys me a t5b, t2a, 4000 6-star shards and around 5000 5-star shards. Yeesh.

GroundedWisdom

That's because you're beyond that level of EQ.

phillgreen

Never mind..

marce2128

Ceti_Eel said:

All I want to know is has anyone who struggled against UC difficulty tried it again now ?

Well, first I must say that I'm probably bad at playing or I don't know, the truth is that before today's nerf, in UC I managed to finish 3.1 using revives, in 3.2 I barely reached the boss with 2 characters alive, now I was able to do it with 4 but , it is impossible for me to kill him, after using 7 revives (between team revive and single lvl 3) and life orbs, the maximum I get is to left him at 50%, and then he starts to rise and I finish at 80% of health. Always using only the weakest path, all other paths are impossible for me at present.
In my case it is NOT worth continuing like this, I returned to the game last week after 1 year, I will wait until February and if it continues like this, unfortunately I will have no choice but to quit the game...

ScooterP

MrSakuragi said:

Kabam Jax said:

Hello Summoners!

Happy to report that changes to EQ and SQ difficulty tuning have been made in-game. As previously mentioned, you will still notice an increase to the difficulty but it should be much more approachable now.

How do these changes impact this month’s legends run and those who attempted it before these changes?

@Kabam Miike anyone know anything about this? I did a legends run the night it dropped and now it's nerfed. I would have waited but my time at that difficulty is going to be way too long.

acteylene

Ceti_Eel said:

All I want to know is has anyone who struggled against UC difficulty tried it again now ?

Haven't done EQ, but went back to the side quest and found it far more manageable. I did one path of the side quest on threat level 3 last week and was a bit discouraged when I found it more difficult than legendary usually was (and I'm not at a skill level where I normally find legendary a breeze, but something I have been pushing myself to improve at the last few months). Gave both threat level 3 and 4 another shot today and noticed a drastic difference in both, much closer to what I would have expected from epic and legendary in previous months.

Starhawk

Kabam Jax said:

Hey Summoners,

An incremental update on this topic.

The game team has continued to look into the changes in difficulty and the impact it's had on accounts at each difficulty level. They are considering changes but are trying to make sure the adjustments they would make would hit the sweet spot.

Overall, this will likely still result in an increase to each difficulty, but to a more palatable level. We should specify that being able to auto-run content is not a priority in these tunings. That doesn't mean you will be unable to do so, it just means it is not a guiding element.

Any changes to the difficulty tuning would require a mid-build update, which, to over-simplify, is fairly rare and will require some time and a particular process to implement.

Please continue to be patient as we reevaluate these changes.

so basically in the end we're getting higher difficulty (and therefore it will take longer to play) without getting a boost in rewards? Doesn't sound like a pro player move....

Usagicassidy

TyEdge said:

So given that uncollected rewards are what they are (and don’t even get me started on lower levels) why would anyone explore any of this content when it can’t be done with autofight and the rewards are hopelessly dated?

This is the thing right here. If anything, rewards should be updated to reflect the current progression of the game. Instead, they keep the rewards the same and make the difficulty harder.

Sure, "makes sense" from a business standpoint (it really doesn't), but for the user, its further incentive to give up. Someone perfectly stated that if you worked the same job for years and suddenly they said "we're gonna work you harder and longer now but you're still getting the same pay" you'd rightfully tell them to F off.

Sundance_2099

FYI to those asking: Contender has been nerfed to a global node of +400% attack and health. It was previously separate nodes of attack and health being upped. Not sure what, but I think attack was +500%. Proven has been changed to +400% attack and +600% health, down from 500 and 800 respectively.

Thanos77

Its difficult but its fun. was tired of cavalier difficulty being not close to be difficult..its was like butter but now m having fun with tb difficulty.

Bazzingaaa

Kabam Jax said:

Hello Summoners!

Happy to report that changes to EQ and SQ difficulty tuning have been made in-game. As previously mentioned, you will still notice an increase to the difficulty but it should be much more approachable now.

Power to the people!
Thanks @kabam Jax

Thiartc

it was said earlier on this thread.

They bumped the difficulty with 400% knowing people would complain, then adjusting it down to plus 300% and we feel happy about it, cause we got something.

the question still remains, why was it bumped? I think they are trying to force us into another direction, hhhmmm maybe bg's.

for the same amount of effort and time you can do BG's with way better rewards once a months and by making the monthly quest a major drag they get the people playing BG's and thus return on their investment. BG's are done, no major work needed, so why spend effort on making monthly quests so force people away from them and into your cash cow.

WreakingGuy

While I appreciate the slight reduction in difficulty, without any change in rewards it should be returned back to how it has been in the past.

There should be a 300-400% increase in rewards to match the 300-400% increase in the defenders values, as it takes 300-400% more time and effort. In its current form it’s hardly worth investing the time into doing the MEQ.

Foonch

I don’t get what’s so hard to understand for those posts calling out ‘skill issue’ etc etc. A lot of it is to do with time for myself personally. I don’t want to spend double the amount of time that I usually spend on 100% uc difficulty.

I’ve seen posts saying use different teams to those who are struggling with the difficulty level now. Again…do u really think the majority of the community has time to fail halfway thru a quest, exit and try again & again & again? However I still think if it’s that hard all Kabam is doing is turning off players wanting to continue progress.

Another guy says spend a day farming revives…lol again…really? Spend a day farming revives. Ok sure. Because we should all just dedicate our entire lives to get validation from a game. How bout some of us just want to play up to an hr a day & not watch multiple vids as well?

I’m doing fine so far but haven’t got to the final chapters. Don’t think I’m going to bother tho. Because of the increased time it takes. It’s a significant increase.

I don’t even care for a big bump in rewards I just want it to not to be such a drain on my time and frankly it’s more boring now. Not more challenging and fun, just longer & boring.

Shake_a_Quake

Hey, hate to be whining, but the difficulty spike genuinely is unfair for UC and i guess cav too. I did love the challenging fight of the UC EQ Absorbing man (can't imagine how worse it'll be for Cav) but it's ridiculously unfair. Please keep this for all the thronies and Paras who keep complaining about the game's boring difficulty, and leave us in peace. As it is, the story quests are not that easy either. Please Kabam!

Dshu

Thanks for the advice but how many of these champs in act 6 can you beat with a 4*? As stated please reduce the difficulty of act 6 I don't believe you can beat even the first fight of 6.1.1 with a 4*. It's just not fair to make fights this hard.

GoneIn60sec said:

Dshu said:

Now that we have the eq nerfed can the game team look into act 6? I can't beat anything in there with my 4* champs I've collected?

I did act 6 with r2/3 5*. Get good mate you need to learn to play the game.

Please feel free to show a screenshot of any act 6 fight you can beat with a 4* and I will gladly take your advice of get good.

Tesladon

I think sometimes, readers mash the “disagree” button when they just want someone to stop talking. When they’ve said enough and need to move on.

Mattj286

Shake_a_Quake said:

. Please keep this for all the thronies and Paras who keep complaining about the game's boring difficulty, and leave us in peace. As it is, the story quests are not that easy either. Please Kabam!

Majority of us hate these changes just as much. Event quest is for learning the new champs whilst earning rewards. We don’t want to spend 30+ minutes doing a single path at full concentration after long a day a work for rewards that take 7 months to rank up 1 6* to r4

bdawg923

A bump in rewards in sorely needed

csexton00

Kabam Jax said:

Hello Summoners!

Happy to report that changes to EQ and SQ difficulty tuning have been made in-game. As previously mentioned, you will still notice an increase to the difficulty but it should be much more approachable now.

Why was the difficulty of any EQ changed just because you added a higher level? Makes no sense that the lowest difficulties were increased. Brand new accounts don't need higher difficulty especially without the rewards getting better. New accounts need difficulties in between the difficulty or story mode to help them progress to the next act not content more difficult than the acts they are trying to finish.

El_Capo

GroundedWisdom said:

El_Capo said:

Kabam Jax said:

Hello Summoners!

Happy to report that changes to EQ and SQ difficulty tuning have been made in-game. As previously mentioned, you will still notice an increase to the difficulty but it should be much more approachable now.

The difficulty is the same for uncollected. what a joke and rewards the same... so what's the change here?

The difficulty isn't the same for Uncollected. It's been taken down a peg.

I don't know if you are a spoke person for them but you know its still very difficult for the new player and average one and with the same rewards (if the rewards were better then it can be a motivation) its not even worth doing it but if Kabam wanted players to have more challenge they were always welcome to start cavalier, how it always was but at their pace not forcing it like this, it will make players leave the game, its very frustrating when you cant beat something... so with the changes made yesterday this still does not make any sense and they should keep working on finding a better solution to all of this.

El_Capo

Shake_a_Quake said:

Hey, hate to be whining, but the difficulty spike genuinely is unfair for UC and i guess cav too. I did love the challenging fight of the UC EQ Absorbing man (can't imagine how worse it'll be for Cav) but it's ridiculously unfair. Please keep this for all the thronies and Paras who keep complaining about the game's boring difficulty, and leave us in peace. As it is, the story quests are not that easy either. Please Kabam!

what he said.... the story quests keeps getting harder and harder that it will impossible to catch up. We have lots of very hard content already that personally I will never beat. UC EQ was the only decent thing a lot of people was able to beat with decent rewards to not fall behind -_-

Haamertail

The updated monthly EQ running is still b.s. and makes it not even worth running. Update the rewards accordingly and maybe it would be worth running. It shows how out of tune they are with the player base. No one thought the monthly EQ needed changes other than another level of difficulty to complete for end game players. You’ll see more people quitting over this than spending for potions and revives like they hope to get.

Dshu

El_Capo said:

GroundedWisdom said:

El_Capo said:

Kabam Jax said:

Hello Summoners!

Happy to report that changes to EQ and SQ difficulty tuning have been made in-game. As previously mentioned, you will still notice an increase to the difficulty but it should be much more approachable now.

The difficulty is the same for uncollected. what a joke and rewards the same... so what's the change here?

The difficulty isn't the same for Uncollected. It's been taken down a peg.

I don't know if you are a spoke person for them but you know its still very difficult for the new player and average one and with the same rewards (if the rewards were better then it can be a motivation) its not even worth doing it but if Kabam wanted players to have more challenge they were always welcome to start cavalier, how it always was but at their pace not forcing it like this, it will make players leave the game, its very frustrating when you cant beat something... so with the changes made yesterday this still does not make any sense and they should keep working on finding a better solution to all of this.

If you don't like the eq don't do it. The increase in lower difficulty is long overdue. New accounts are getting rank 3 5*s before entering act 5. Just because he doesn't agree with you on the difficulty doesn't mean he works for kabam. If lower level players feel it's too hard go do other content there are lots of options available.

El_Capo

Dshu said:

El_Capo said:

GroundedWisdom said:

El_Capo said:

Kabam Jax said:

Hello Summoners!

Happy to report that changes to EQ and SQ difficulty tuning have been made in-game. As previously mentioned, you will still notice an increase to the difficulty but it should be much more approachable now.

The difficulty is the same for uncollected. what a joke and rewards the same... so what's the change here?

The difficulty isn't the same for Uncollected. It's been taken down a peg.

I don't know if you are a spoke person for them but you know its still very difficult for the new player and average one and with the same rewards (if the rewards were better then it can be a motivation) its not even worth doing it but if Kabam wanted players to have more challenge they were always welcome to start cavalier, how it always was but at their pace not forcing it like this, it will make players leave the game, its very frustrating when you cant beat something... so with the changes made yesterday this still does not make any sense and they should keep working on finding a better solution to all of this.

If you don't like the eq don't do it. The increase in lower difficulty is long overdue. New accounts are getting rank 3 5*s before entering act 5. Just because he doesn't agree with you on the difficulty doesn't mean he works for kabam. If lower level players feel it's too hard go do other content there are lots of options available.

yeah this is not about liking or not liking... there are indeed so many options but are the rewards worth it to progress? EQ are been used to get resources to advance but if we cant get decent ones whats the point of even playing this game.

MrSakuragi

Kabam Jax said:

Hello Summoners!

Happy to report that changes to EQ and SQ difficulty tuning have been made in-game. As previously mentioned, you will still notice an increase to the difficulty but it should be much more approachable now.

Why are important announcements like this being made in a thread that’s 500+ replies deep and not made in a stand-alone announcement thread or in -game?

@Kabam Miike @“Kabam Jax”